law i can ask his opinion on miranda i can ask his opinion on our heads again why can't they ask him about roe v wade i don't think they have a problem with that i just as quickly in my class the first year or two that he was up on the supreme court of the united states i asked him about all of this and he gave me he gave the last two hundred people his opinions on a lot of these issues he wouldn't give an opinion of course on how he would decide a pending case a case that where the court but how you would have voted on dred scott that's a pretty easy thing ok but cavanagh has said that roe versus wade set a precedent when he was appearing to be approved for the circuit court. right he said it and he had he he believes in president. do you believe he'll vote to keep rolling way i do i think he may chip away at it he's not going to vote to overrule the rules of precedent are different by the way and the supreme court and the court of appeals the court of appeals are bound absolute bound by the president and if

you violate press at the sprinkle overrule you but the supreme court has nobody to overrule them i think it was justice jackson who said we're not infallible because we are always right we're only weighs right because we're the last word and they have to or nobody could ever reverse us but that doesn't mean they're right the law is what the supreme court says it is well that's what people have said over the years but the supreme court has changed its mind the supreme court validated slavery this very good validated segregation supreme court permitted the confinement of one hundred ten thousand japanese most of them american citizens in detention. centers sterilization of people they thought were mentally unfit some of the worst decisions of the world the conference frequent many of them by liberal judges that japanese detention douglas lack the sterilization cases holmes brandeis also ordered that so you know we don't know what the issues are going to be thirty years from now and cavanaugh is reaching perhaps it's retirement age so you don't

anticipate how a justice will books you don't know what the issues are all this court did say that the putting those japanese and special places and was wrong they did it and justice goldberg said that when i was locklear fifty years ago but this was a holding by the court that said clearly categorically that they're reversing that the situation and thank god for that that was one of the most ferenc decisions in all of american history franklin delano roosevelt's order forests of hugo black earl warren who are the liberals so when you have a war you just never know and it was some of the. servitors america we're close to it so you know you just never know the court this time of course think that everybody cavanagh is going to be a conservative but nobody doubt that but what kind of a conservative he is remains to be seen now and always great talking with you i love you to be well thanks to you time today. and again the book is the case

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if you watched futurama or the jetsons they are traveling in sight you see it's pretty normal was this they have concepts from concepts like that there were several in implementations that were planted in the ninety's in the sixty's. so. when you get a pulse idea and he said he was too busy let's have some space if you want someone else to pick it up.

to politicking nato terrorists in a closed door meeting between trump and putin lots to talk about with my next guests and we're g.h. chris lou joins us from washington he served as white house cabinet secretary and deputy secretary of labor during the obama administration is now a senior fellow at the university of virginia miller center and david jolly former republican representative from florida who joins us from temple. we take this yesterday for play tonight so trump was in the middle of trump was in the middle of

the visit tomato based on that cruise how's he doing so far well you've had a tumultuous start to the meeting and he has called the germans captive of the russians which i think is a statement that would be called into question by most foreign policy experts as well as most members of congress as well it is it is troubling that telling that he has set the nato alliance is the most successful military alliance in the history of the world and this is a president who seems intent on disrupting that which has dangerous consequences not only for american national security but for the world order as well david your reaction. yeah look i would agree largely with chris this is a president who has taken a notably different posture towards nato compared to any of his predecessors regardless of party and it's left a lot of americans questioning why he would do this in terms of american history

this is one of the richest alliances in defending freedom it is one that is most special to the united states the president seems intent on trying to extract concessions out of our allies and so the two questions for many americans in light of the visit with nato as well as the visit with putin it first is why the change in posture and second you can't escape the context in which this is occurring which is a domestic investigation into the president's campaign it is certainly different behavior than we have seen before it leaves a lot of americans with some hard questions of the president crazies gozo kolo nato members to increase defense spending to four percent from the current two percent. the white house says that's the president's thoughts it's not to announce soon to what do you make of that group well look you know presidents of both parties have gone to nato to ask them to take up a greater share of the defense so there's nothing unique about what he's trying to

do what is unique is the style in which he's doing it which is an incredibly in tag and stick style that you know perhaps plays well in the real state business it doesn't particularly play well on the world stage especially given the number of battles that we're having with or that this administration is having with our allies right now in particular on trade issues in the number of issues where we need their cooperation on as david said this is a key strategical alliance there are nato troops from the countries that the president's attacking in afghanistan fighting side by side with us right now so yes europe needs to do more to bear the costs of the defense but there are right ways to do that and there are wrong ways to do that which is what the president's doing today do that is the. wrong support of nato what do you make of this. you know this goes back to the campaign larry where whether or not he had a clear understanding of article five you know the notion that any nato country that comes under attack will be protected by the others there were questions

whether you understood that there were questions about whether or not he would remain committed to it he had actually floored it with the idea of abandoning it this is a president who is suspicious of any multilateral alliance this is part of the nationalism that he continues to push as his agenda and reflected largely in his advisor steve bannon and others we see it in meetings at the g. seven recently where he was antagonistic to our partners there where we are seeing it in nato at the end of the day it is not a good strategy for the united states we are a more secure nation when we have strong nato alliances and yes every country can do more to commit to their own national security budgets but larry this is not an impending problem we face as a country if you draw the contrast between the nato meeting and the russia meeting the reality is wherever the facts lie we know that u.s. intelligence communities have suggested that russia was adversarial to our interests in the most recent election that is a greater threat

a greater question to get to the bottom of than anything related to nato and the level of contributions of our allies in that regard chris what do you expect to happen when the president meets mr putin. you know i'm not sure honestly larry that anybody knows that when when the president met putin last year the conversation was all about whether the president would force fully confront putin about the meddling in our lection and while the president sort of got to it by the end and admitted that he had raised it and he believed putin's denials about that you've seen this constant walking back of that over the past year now obviously at some of the statements that have come out of the president recently about the aggressive foreign policy moves by russia suggests that this is a president who not just wants to have a good relationship with russia and we can agree that's probably a good thing but seems to be willing to accommodate some of russia's a worse instincts on the world stage right now this is also president as we saw in

singapore who is very consumed with the optics with the appearances of these summits as he was with kim jong un so this may be more about. some nice photos of people shaking hands rather than anything real happening. here david in response to the trump policies china has now slimmed massive thirty four billion dollars worth of us exports including soybeans report says aren't jewish and whiskey where is all is go in the. donald trump is launched a trade war and those terms are accurate in this case we are now and in the midst of retaliatory effort encounter retaliatory effort you know decisions of whether or not we have a free trade economy or a protectionist economy those debates are had throughout generations but they require a very skilled commitment to a long term macro economic shift when we saw nafta in the united states where we

moved to more free trade economic environment we were willing to accept the pain upfront for the strategy of long term economic growth i think the questions of this president are whether or not he is acting rationally with some coherent long term macro economic strategy or if this just a matter of what he promised his base which is we're a nation that's being taken advantage of and i'm going to go fight our adversaries economically national security whatever it might be the deep concern though is tariffs are taxes we will see inflation in the united states if there is no long term economic strategy for how it leads to greater economic growth this will be a net negative for the united states economy in the near term. schumer said he will oppose the nomination of brit kavanaugh or with every ounce of strength he has that may not succeed where did you think of that appointment. well look i as a democrat i have serious concerns about judge kavanagh's record not only in terms

of his. stance on abortion on the affordable care act but look we are early in this process right now judge kavanaugh has twelve years of judicial opinions on the d.c. circuit that need to be reviewed hundreds of thousands of pages of records from his time in the white house counsel's office during the bush administration that need to be reviewed senators should walk into this with an open mind on both sides frankly. have a chance to question him and look at his record that being said this is a president who made very clear that he had a litmus test for the judges that he was going to pick and so judge kavanaugh may say all the right things he may talk about the importance of precedent but make no mistake this is a president and frankly this is a vice president who yet yesterday said they were intent on overruling roe versus wade so i think it's a fair assumption that is what judge kavanagh's inclination would be david will be as judge moore what do you think should roll be worried. oh it's absolutely fair

and i think you will see him hedge a little bit look the votes are likely there for republicans but democrats have an opportunity here to create a defining moment going into the midterms and we will be on the heels of the midterms when all of these hearings conclude and a vote actually happens i think what we could watch for though larry is this a lot of conservative jurists are even saying that kavanagh has has said he is not looking to overturn roe v wade that may be the case but what a lot of conservatives are suggesting is they can change abortion rights in the united states even within the construct of roe v wade roe v wade had this underlying viability test the notion that in the third trimester that fetus is capable of of birth and of living and so there's a viability test i think what you'll see conservative jurist do is say working within the roe v wade construct recognizing that as precedent we can still restrict abortion rights that will be the heart of the debate and i think for democrats it's

largely a good one in terms of defining the contrast between the parties going into november and let letting voters decide which party they choose to support in this in this case but the public supports role. well that's exactly right and there is a disconnect between the public sentiment about two thirds of american public support of roe v wade but it's also the lack of protections at the state level there are only a handful of states maybe to handle states that actually protect. the rights of choice at the state level right now and so if roe is overturned or sufficiently cut back it is fair to say that many many states will take action on that end and that will be an interesting battle that we will have that will really define the political landscape for the next five to ten years would we be chaos today that of california allows abortion in mississippi doesn't. it would be and this is

exactly how this is going to proceed sort of chris's point larry it's not that the supreme court in the united states can just decide we're going to bring up roe v wade and take a vote on whether to overturn it what will happen when cavanagh gets confirmed as this the pro-life advocacy groups will identify they will target one or two states across the country where they believe they have the greatest success at the state level to restrict or prohibit abortion perhaps across the board or in very specific cases that will then become the test that gets litigated at the at the federal level but beginning at the district level at the state moving its way all the way to the supreme court what will likely become beef come before the court is whether or not a specific state who has restricted abortion is able to keep that law on the books that will be the vote that kavanagh should be asked about do you think if the democrats get control of the house they will bring up impeachment i think that really is the defining issue if they take back the house and i believe they will

take back the house there will obviously be a strong sentiment which is within the liberal base to do that i'm not sure politically that makes a lot of sense especially if the senate remains in republican control you might have a you know. it might make people in the base feel good but if you can't fundamentally remove the president from office you may be helping out his political prospects moving into two thousand and twenty david. i think it it requires a catalyst and that catalyst could be something in the report or if the president is put under oath and perjured himself it would require something rising to that level the base will want the debate and i think what you may see shy of an actual impeachment hearing should democrats take over in january you may see the judiciary committee hold a hearing with presidential scholars and and jurist who can enlighten the congress on the issues of impeachment what rises to the level of pietschmann but without a catalyst a catalyst like the moeller report where the president perjuring himself under oath

i don't see it advancing past that chris david both thank you very much thank you thank you guys to be with and thank you the viewers for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me at kings things and do not forget to use the politicking hash tag and that's all for this edition of politicking.

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headlining right now in an exclusive interview with larry king on russia's foreign minister says policy in the west concerning moscow is now based on the assumption of guilt and no solid evidence of your life you. will be a source of the there is no over. us becoming. the worst the troops. this is central london right now just three hundred sixty five thousand people are registered to take part in a march against donald trump visiting the u.k. all correspondence and all across the taking place to start. as people got a very right now it's already got off to a rocky start though is the u.s.

president's father warning to the british prime minister. claiming their relationship remains very strong. and. also the champions of the twenty eighteen world cup will be crowned in russia this weekend when croatia take on from his prize. also for third place. i live worldwide this is r.t. international i'm calling by with the biggest stories we're covering here this friday the thirteenth of july first for you speaking exclusively with larry king on r.t. russia's foreign minister says that in the absence of any real evidence highly likely now seems to be enough for some western governments to damn russia in a multitude of cases so also touches on these channels difficulties abroad double quarter has the details. well the interview covered

a number of hot button issues regarding russia's relation to the rest of the world and one of which was trump's recent comment at a nato summit where he said that germany was a captive of russia because of merkel's gas dealings with putin now this came after germany and a number of other european countries approved the construction of the nord stream two gas pipeline this is a pipeline that would run directly from russia into the european union now while merkel denied the allegations that germany is a captive of anybody lavrov had this to say about it how did you react when the when president trump said that germany is totally controlled by russia i can only quote what the president said when he was asked about the present border news he is in the middle of his friend who said he is compared to a strong competitor but speaking of competition i always believed in free competition because free market is about competition and when the united states is

. the period said the north stream must be stopped and those european countries whose companies would be participating in this project would be sanctioned by the united states because because the united states useful computation the russian with the repair would use is supposed to be wars in the democratic american guess then for the story but this is not because i mean this is not competition this is a duel with now shifting back to america larry king asked surrogate lavrov what he thought about the american intelligence community's conclusion that russia had meddled in the twenty six thousand presidential elections now citing lack of evidence lavrov had this to say about it the and then his conclusion by the entire american intelligence community is that your government and influenced the american elections in twenty six. in its report signed only by three

agencies out of the dozens of intelligence agencies who normally would participate in anything called the union of the entire intelligence community of the united states then i saw the report of the senate intelligence committee which assert that you know that russia has been interfering with the elections and then no single factor was produced no the investigation of these souls very poisoning is also going on without any transparent information highly unlikely thing and the assertion that there is no other credible explanation is becoming a rule on which the western friends try to base their policy on russian lover also went on to speak about artie's image internationally now r.t. america has already been registered as

a foreign agency in the united states and the french government has already announced its plans to put together a blacklist of media organizations it believes contributes to fake news now let's see what lavrov had to say about that we are concerned that our team which is not foreign to you is being labeled by for example the french government as agents of influence. and they say in french government introduced a draft law to the parliament which is intended to come by live blick least of media outlets we just suspected of spreading fake news and they would most seriously. blick least would be a company that by combining one of the government level at the legislature level at least of media resources which would be recommended to national regulators of cyberspace as reliable. yes there's no sense to ship. them to their much

and destroy concerning this program which is on our t. and other sources are to you has never interfered with the show or never never censored rowse or anything so i'd go on record as saying now of course those were only a couple of the major points but you'll be able to see the whole interview tonight on politico r.t. america. it is getting very busy around oxford circus in london's west end right now among the usual crowds of shoppers and workers in the background there you can see banners of the. protests crowds that are there making their way toward trafalgar square against the visit of donald trump to britain various grievances that all those people seem to have and it's going to be by all accounts a well attended march around one hundred sixty five thousand people certainly a very heavily policed march as well apparently around ten thousand officers this is going to be the biggest contingent of police and security in britain since the

riots in twenty eleven but it's a warm day so it's bound to see quite a few people turn out against the visit of the u.s. president as for the business at hand right now donald trump is meeting to resume a forty miles north of checkers the prime minister's country retreat as well as those crowds in central london that we've seen there's also been that giant balloon this morning depicting him as a sneering toddler that's been flying above the center of london near to parliament square on a sea of chickens at the protest it's hard it's noisy and the crowds are getting all worked up for the protests that are going to be taking place throughout the day today of course as you can see behind me that that everybody has been talking about housing deed gone off it's a giant balloon of what looks like triumph wearing a nappy this was crowd funded by activists who gathered over thirty thousand pounds to be able to put this balloon together during trump's visit and of course they're right in the heart of central london right in front of the have. as of parliament

so certainly this balloon is getting lots of attention we are expecting according to organizers have been saying they want tens of thousands of people to come out onto the streets of london to march and protest donald trump's visit of course once he arrived on thursday yesterday some protests already took off they were taking place outside the u.s. ambassador's residence in london where donald trump had spent one night in the british capital more last apart from that he's awaiting central london his schedule keeps taking him elsewhere and the understanding overall is that this is because so many people are expected to come out to say no to trump's visit is definitely still a busy day ahead for trump as he swerved central london is jus to meet the new foreign secretary in a short while and later said to have tea with the queen of windsor castle so off the slamming the country's prime minister over breakfast he said that to resume a soft approach could kill any deal with the united states trump also mention the britain's former foreign secretary boris johnson would make a great prime minister

a police boycott has more on his remarks. but old trump has certainly got his message across on this visit already visit is shorter goes out in history and unfortunately for to reason may for all the wrong reasons diplomatically at least the trip still had its wheels on things seemed to be going to plan we saw these beautiful pictures of donald trump and the first lady arriving at the lenin palace they were being wined and dined by to reason may and her husband before we came off air around ten thirty there was even a news flash clearly downing street was pursing out a message saying that to reason may have even pitched this coveted u.k. u.s. trade deal to donald trump over dinner but just hol for an hour later and the wheels fell off because the sun newspaper published this interview with donald trump which had been conducted just hours before the u.s. president had flown in to the u.k.

while he was still in brussels at that nato summit and in it donald trump issued a number of a storm the shingly on diplomatic statements the first and foremost is that if we use them a plows ahead with her so-called checkers bragg's it that's. the sort of divorce from the e.u. that will still allow the u.k. to remain quite closely aligned to brussels well then that u.s. free trade deal that's been dying gold in front of our noses as the potential outcome of this trip well that will be off i actually told drew. but she didn't agree she didn't listen to me if you do do like we would be doing with the european union instead of dealing with the u.k. so it will probably kill the deal and there she didn't listen to him and wait there is so much more because trump also said that boris johnson the.