it was mike is invested as to russia and to the united states respectively and we will discuss any issue which each of us would like to raise there would be no fixed agenda but there are obvious items which would certainly pop up. the two presidents will meet alone by the way i the end of you and mr putin i know in. part a few times and when i when i've been with him he doesn't speak english are they going to be interpreters at that private meeting between the two presidents. yes that would be interpreted as president putin actually understands english but for the sake of better expressing his views he prefers to use the interpreters of good office.

will there be there be no other aides in the room you will not be in the room well as things stand now that's what the american side proposed and to be polite to people so we agreed. what are you looking forward to from the summit what from the russian standpoint will be a successful summit. well a beginning of normal communications. all channels of commit most channels of communications established during the last seven eight ten years have been frozen. on very important issues count that there are these and there are g. drug trafficking cyber security many others afghanistan other regional conflicts and what we have now is a spare reddick meetings between diplomats and the military mostly on syria

we also have a channel on ukraine where the aid of president putin and a special envoy of the united states met several times about to be is no visible progress because our american colleagues try every every time they meet was their russian counterparts to deviate radically from the minsk agreements which underlie the consensus on your training and crisis but we keep trying and they hope that we will certainly discuss this issue in helsinki but back to your question regarding the ideal outcome ideal outcome would be to agree to in gauge all the channels on all the issues which are devised if on the one hand trying to see whether we can get closer on those exact topics and also on

those issues where we now can usefully cooperate for the sake of interest of the two countries and for the sake of interest of international community like a strategic stability for example i optimistic about. well i'm not paid to be optimistic or pessimistic i'm paid to be realistic and really try to stick to the reality we'll see what the reality looks like. mr lavrov us minister lavrov stay right there we'll be right back with more politicking right after this quick break.

we'll get back to this special edition of politicking on larry king and we're talking with the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov it's a great pleasure to have him with us on the eve of this is sturrock summit because

the foreign minister what does your country think of. the state. sort of agreement with north korea. well i think it's good for the world we strongly support the efforts undertaken by president thrum also by by the president of south korea to build up that must fear that must fear which would be conducive to resolving the nuclear issue of the korean peninsula and to bring all of us to dinner clear ization and the from the very beginning we suggest that the get of his china that first step must become for this building and the second step should be some confidence building measures like freezing lunches and tests like freezing the military gains and i believe that what is going on is going in the right direction i know that the outcome of the meeting can seem to

poor between president trump and leader of the not of north korea is being criticized by many as just you know being empty wards on paper without any. leaf in it a late secretary from peril visited. and then he was also criticized for not delivering any specific hard commitments for general clear ization but i think serious analysts understand that this thing cannot be done overnight it has been a very deep crisis is very serious consequences which might affect many countries if things went wrong and we have to build confidence gradually and that's i believe what the president trump and secretary punk help help to do we support this efforts and we try to contribute in our contacts with north koreans

and with other players in that region. it's good to hear ok we are. the anonymous conclusion by the entire american intelligence community is that your government influenced the american elections in twenty sixteen. and that president trump will tell president putin to not do it again how do you react to all of this and your country's involvement in american elections your reaction. well i've seen those reports but it was all respect larry i cannot agree that this was the report as you said by the entire american intelligence community . those who are interested can take

a look at the piece written by former american ambassador to moscow object medlock who described the report produced regarding the alleged russian interference and. showed in the fissions to send in that ulysses and inconsistences in filing this report without for example expressing the view which we should be military intelligence had it's a report signed only by three agencies out of a dozen of intelligence agencies and the united states has and will who normally would participate in anything called that binion of the entire intelligence community of the united states then i saw the report of the senate intelligence committee which asserted and you know. allege that russia

has been interfering with elections that there is proof and then no single fact was produced and then it was announced that the full report would be made secret because of sensitive information it's exactly the same approach as we see in our relations with the united kingdom who accused us ten years ago off poisoning one of the four main dungeon so officer who reside that in london mr litvinenko and the travel which concluded that the russian was responsible was also secret now the investigation of the souls of very poisoning is also going on without any transparent in front. being provided to the public without anything given to us including access to a russian citizen and so on and so forth now the this this is becoming contagious i believe and highly likely and the assertion that there is no other

credible explanation is becoming a rule on which the western friends try to base their policy on russian the the latest the latest event and greece is absolutely going in the same vein highly likely we are not given any hugo effect on the backs of the american elections and i've spent some time in the united states so i believe i understand how the system is working and when a year and a half or even more. investigation goes on hearings go on. the special counsel or mr miller dozens of people but dissipating in the hearing being interrogated. and the only think the public gets is they're searching in that it has proven again and again that russia did

meddle vestal thinking whether this meddling did have effect on the outcome of elections or not and so on and so forth but apart from this assertion there is no single fact and knowing their merits and system i. i'm convinced that with so many people involved you know this hearing school lows public secret not secret it is impossible that no single fact has been leaked so fight yet into the public debate the us system is leaking. very often and very well and especially on the show late this month so many people involved it's impossible not to not to have any single fact that presented to the public one way or another. so you have all i can say you can vote on a sure you have to know this was involved.

present put in addressed this issue several times he once again confirmed a few days ago actually a few couple of weeks ago that the russian government has nothing to do with what was going on during the american elections we have been reading about somebody else's meddling with the democratic party site but this is a fact which has been proven but is not mentioned it all when this electoral. campaign issue is being discussed what what we did see was that we are ready to answer any questions that american administration might have regarding this matter this was actually a proper offered by us when president putin met with president round while year ago in the margins of g twenty in cumbered. and there we thought there was an agreement

that and the group of experts would be a meeting that americans would put on the table all the issues which they believe that russia must explain and then the experts would do this somehow a few days after the summit under the pressure of those who believe that the administration should not discuss anything on cyber security was russia this deal was postponed lately there was signals that the americans are ready to resume this attempt and we would be ready to discuss any concerns regarding cyber security which the united states might have speaking of cyber security. and freedom of expression and so on and so forth we are concerned that r.t. which is not foreign to you is being labeled by for example the french government

as agents of influence. and the same french government introduced a draft law to their parliament which is intended to compile a blacklist of media outlets we just suspected of spreading fake news and even most seriously. bleck least would be accompanied by compiling on at the government level at the legislature level at least of media resources which would be recommended to national regulators of cyberspace as reliable sources if it does not censorship if it is not an attempt to squeeze the space of expression then i don't understand much in this life. i want to add one more thing mr foreign minister. how marlee how

can you support someone like assad in syria who is been so brutal to his own people how how can you support him in there in a civilization how these supporters. well i think i think you being a politician. i mean some people say being a politician is being cynical something a healthy cynicism is good i believe because to be realistic and we have to be responsible first of all for the world security force the curate your father countries for the cooperation of his of us which would create conditions making our people safer and if you take a look in retrospect at that region saddam hussein was

a dictator. moammar gadhafi was a dictator. but if you can peer the sufferings of the people of iraq libya respectively on the beast the dictators and the president after the american the nato intervention in iraq and the new libya in violation of international law then i believe the numbers of those who were killed who were wounded who fled their homes would be probably hundreds of thousands more than those who suffered under these regimes. and the same is true for syria the people who ruined iraq who ruined libya now it's right to invite the international community to share responsibility for the migrants crisis. the same people draw no conclusions and they wanted to put syria in the same in the

same state some end of his say that the united states might be interested in keeping this region in turmoil so that it can fish in this muddy waters i don't believe this is this is what the united states wants but when you look at defects it's what's happening it's what's happening and this is not to say that we want to justify dictators but it's to say that before you start an adventure. you must make every step not to be reckless and to find a way to promote democracy changes peacefully that like being knighted states do in many countries of the same very region i don't need to lose that so my point is that we condemn any violations of human rights any of oil

a chanst of international humanitarian law. of a commute it can be them governments opposition foreign countries interfering but we have to see the entire picture and we have to think about the price of being moral just for the sake of being moral so you include syria in that statement. yes that's what you asked me about. you know. very glad to hear that mr foreign minister thank you so much for giving us your time today have a successful trip to helsinki and let's hope that when we meet in person we have peace in the world would be nice. thank you

larry thank you very much for the invitation. and thank you for joining us on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me a kings things and don't forget use the politicking hash tag and that's all for this edition of politicking. mean.

the u.s. charges twelve russians with hacking offenses linked to the twenty sixteen presidential election. coming up to the saturday morning we speak exclusively with kremlin spokesman dmitri prescott off on us from russia tight end of that highly anticipated trump putin summit in helsinki on monday. the israeli military strike gaza in response to renew protests along the border. in.

the morning or to the weekend nine am saturday morning here in moscow my name is kevin irwin and first then the u.s. justice department is charged twelve russians with hacking offenses has been revealed as part of an investigation. by special counsel robert muller into alleged meddling in the twenty sixteen presidential election. the indictment charges twelve russian military officers by name for conspiring to interfere with the twenty eight sixteen presidential election. eleven of the defendants are charged with conspiring to hack into computers still documents and release those documents with the intent to interfere in the election the russians said to be members of russian military intelligence are accused of hacking democratic party e-mails and hillary clinton's campaign the indictment says they created online personas to publish the stolen

information the justice department those says there was quote no evidence the alleged interference changed the course of the election. there's no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result. well moscow says the timing of the announcement shows that it's designed to have a negative impact on monday's trump in summit because he goes down off the union o'neill discussed the controversy everything in this investigation when it comes to the hacking of the democratic party it provides around the d.n.c. server so we don't know as i've said where moolah got his information from but what we do know is where he didn't get it from apparently and that is the f.b.i. as they themselves have numerously admitted to fail to examine the server themselves have a listen when did the d.n.c. provide access for to the f.b.i. for your your technical folks to review what happened. we never got direct access

to the machines themselves fallout begs the question doesn't it if the f.b.i. had no access to d.n.c. servers who hurt in this exact case we don't know exactly but we know that previously all the information about this server came from a company named kraut strike it's a company that was hired by the d.n.c. received money for the from the d.n.c. for maintaining and taking care of their servers and so they were the ones who provided the f.b.i. with all the logs and all the information and all the strike itself says that the information they gave it's a carbon copy of it's like the exact same thing as what was on the actual server there's no way real way of proving that. you know very fine that because they have tampered with this quite a bit they have already restructured it back in twenty sixteen in this whole server so that's did raise some questions as well you did see never turn the server over

to law enforcement if you're investigating either from a law enforcement or from an intelligence standpoint hacking by foreign hostile government would you want the server wouldn't that help you number one identify who the attacker was if they had turned the server over to either you or director call me maybe we would have no more so i guess what i'm asking you is why would the victim of a crime not turn over a server to the intelligence community or to law enforcement and this question is what many many people are asking because think of it from a following standpoint say there was a crime in some apartment the police show at the door and then the victim's roommate shows up and says look i live in the same room i saw everything happened here's your forensics like fingerprints you know traces of d.n.a. you pictures from the crime scene you're all good. and the police they say oh then

fine then we won't examine the actual crime scene since what you're showing to us is the exact copy and the exact like account of events of what happened this is pretty much what the f.b.i. did there what happens now is there a trial well naturally yes this is what mueller is pursuing but there is a catch because look at who he is indicted is indicted several intelligence officers of russia and obviously the result. based in russia of course and if there is a trial it is said to happen on the u.s. soil no one in their right minds would be sending intelligence officers to a foreign country i mean it doesn't really matter whether or not the are accused of anything whether or not they're guilty or not it just it's intelligence officers they have like information clearances and everything the some of them may not be allowed to travel abroad at all so miller has found is finding himself with this indictment in a very comfortable position because of the trial happens it will be

a trial in absentia which means the chances are nobody will represent these intelligence officers which pretty much guarantees a guilty verdict because of a correspondent with adams executive director of the ron paul institute believes the timing of this case though is highly significant. if you're the victim of a crime why would you not want to hand the evidence over to the police the fact of the matter is the company they had doing their security is that it was a politically biased company that was invite involved in all sorts of things other things so it is a it is a big question but the other big question really is the timing but once again we have an indictment on a friday before a weekend but not just any weekend this is the weekend before the much anticipated called to the summit of the political implications of dropping indictments to poison the waters in advance of the trumpet and so on that this is clearly the work of the u.s. . russia's ties with the u.s.

can be repaired says kremlin spokesman to me to prescott he was speaking to us he's really put trying to head of monday summit between donald trump and vladimir putin . we knew that mr pascal wouldn't really spill the beans just before the big head to head advantage however we did hear a few things from him lately the media and the west as well as some politicians have really been distressed or even agitated about the summit coming up in the capital of finland feeling that one of the two the leaders may use some sort of leverage in a bargaining game while the spokesperson of mr putin says that kremlin isn't looking into any kind of bargaining options i also asked them about some specific potential bargaining chips up and leave me go right up to the western journalists are going on about some possible big bargaining game that could on ravel in

helsinki what should we be watching out for anything like that at all does moscow have any bargaining chips for the americans when you over towards the word is absolutely inappropriate here instead positions will be compared and there will be clarification as to confirm or dispel any fears you know that all relations are. quite pitiful state and you know that russia was in the one who initiated the ruining of the complex of our relations we hope there is a political will to normalize relations but in middle nick a place for him i thought of previously so rumors again in the american media that russia might hand edward snowden to u.s. authorities have nothing to do with reality for him to think anything of it. no they have nothing to do with it it's out of the question. that it was a whore that sort of being the karimov but you know enough well why are you so stubborn when it comes to even the slightest possibility of discussing crimea more than some believe it's donald trump who might be ready to start discussing the

matter from a different perspective the gonna like other western politicians maybe it's worth having a go with him go at it with no money look there's only one way to discuss this and continually saying until russia gives crimea back there will be no this or that repeating this is like some kind of mantra which is absolutely logical it's a road to nowhere it has no perspective and nothing will come of it and with more on. what if mr trump is the one to stop this is there any hope of that. you know we are not and never have been wearing rose tinted glasses but we can count on that dmitri pascal hasn't ruled out that the issue of the north stream to blind for direct natural gas deliveries from russia to the new well being brought all pain to hell thinking lately mr trump has seemed to be just a step away from even pulling berlin for working together with russia here's the

reaction we heard from mr putin's press secretary to that it would. let's not forget the north stream too is an international project it's not even russian german or german russian it's a multinational enterprise which has many shareholders and i'm. them very big companies from various countries and let's put it like this threatening the shareholders as well as threatening russia and germany with sanctions if this project goes further these threats are a big concern you know speaking of the enormous amounts of work in terms of perhaps by both administrations the press secretary admitted that the agenda is far from being for here's mr peskov with more on that very process. there's no clear agenda existing it will be created by heads of states as they go. we will be showing the full version.