amounts and the military mostly on syria we also have a channel on ukraine where the aid of president putin and a special envoy of the united states met several times about to be is no visible progress because our american colleagues try every every time they need to is their russian counterparts to deviate radically from the minsk agreements which underlie the consensus on your training and crisis but we keep trying and they hope that we will certainly discuss this issue in helsinki but back to your question regarding the ideal outcome ideal outcome would be to agree to in gauge all the channels on all the issues which are devised if on the one hand trying to see whether we can get closer on those exact topics and also on those issues where we now can usefully cooperate for the sake of

interest of the two countries and for the sake of interest of international community like a strategic stability for example i optimistic about. well i'm not paid to be optimistic or pessimistic i'm paid to be realistic and really try to stick to the reality we'll see what the reality looks like. mr lavrov minister lavrov stay right there we'll be right back with more politicking right after this quick break.

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region in the region if you're in a region does quote. understand there were a new goal the president's lawyer in the united states is going to be no region you ought to get any kind of expansionism of any kind of a deal anyway you know this is a any other country. welcome back to this special edition of politicking on larry king and we're talking with the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov. it's a great pleasure to have him with us on the eve of this historic summit because the foreign minister what does your country think of. him since. sort of agreement with north korea well i think it's good for the world and we strongly support the efforts undertaken by president thrum also by

by the president of south korea to build up the atmosphere that most fear which would be conducive to resolving the nuclear issue of the korean peninsula and to bring all of us to denote their ization and to from the very beginning we suggest that the get of his china that first step was because for this building. and the second step should be some confidence building measures like freezing lunches and tests like freezing the military gains and i believe that what is going on is going in the right direction i know that the outcome of the meeting can seem to poor between president trump and leader of the north of north korea is being criticized by many as just you know being empty wards on paper without any.

leaf in it late secretary from pale visited pyongyang. and then he was also criticized for not delivering any specific hard commitments for general clear ization but i think serious analysts understand that this thing cannot be done overnight it has been a very deep crisis which is very serious consequences which might affect many countries if things went wrong and we have to build confidence gradually and that's i believe what president trump and secretary pump will help help to do we support this efforts and we try to contribute in our contacts with north koreans and with other players in that region it's good to hear ok. the anonymous conclusion by the entire american

intelligence community and is that your government and influenced the american elections in twenty sixteen. and that president trump will tell president putin to not do it again how do you react to all of this and your country's involvement and american elections your reaction. well i've seen those reports but it was all respect larry i cannot agree that this was the report as you said by the entire american intelligence community . those who are interested can take a look at the piece written by former american ambassador to moscow object medlock who described the report produced regarding the alleged russian interference

and. showed in the fish and says send in that curious and inconsistences in fighting this report without for example expressing the view which we cheered the military intelligence had it's a report signed only by three agencies out of a dozen of intelligence agencies and the united states has and will who normally would participate in anything called that binion of the entire intelligence community of the united states then i saw the report of the senate intelligence committee leach asserted and you know. allege that russia has been interfering with the elections that there is proof and then no single fact was produced and then it was announced that the full report would be made secret

because of sensitive information it's exactly the same approach as we see in our relations with the united kingdom who accused us ten years ago off poisoning one of the four main dungeon so officer who reside that in london mr litvinenko and the thread will reach concluded that the russian was responsible was also secret now the investigation of these souls very poisoning is also going on without any transparent and from. being provided to the public without anything given to us including access to a russian citizen and so on and so forth now the this this is becoming contagious i believe and highly likely and the assertion that there is no other credible explanation is becoming a rule on which the western friends try to base their policy on russian the the latest the latest event greece is absolutely going in the same vein

highly likely we are not given any huge effect on the backs of the american elections i've spent some time in the united states so i believe i understand how the system is working and when a year and a half or even more. investigation goes on hearings go on. the special counsel or mr knoller dozens of people but you see paging in the hearing being interrogated. and the only think the public gets is they're searching on that it's because proven again and again that russia did mental vestal thinking whether this meddling did have effect on the outcome of elections or not and so on and so forth but apart from this assertion there is no single fact and knowing their merits and system i. i'm

convinced that with so many people involved you know this hearing school ost public secret not secret it is impossible that no single fact has been to leak so five yet into the public debate the us system is leaking. very often and very well and this specially on the show like this meant so many people involved it's impossible not to not to have any single fact that presented to the public one way or another. so you have all i can say you can vote on a sure you don't have to it that is most involved. present put in address this issue several times he once again confirmed a few days ago actually a few couple of weeks ago that the russian government has nothing to do with what

was going on during the american elections we have been reading about somebody else's meddling with the democratic party site but this is a fact which has been proven by that is not mentioned it all when this electoral. campaign issue is being discussed what what we did see was that we are ready to answer any questions that mary can administer ation might have regarding this matter this was should have proper offered by us when president putin met with president drowned while here we go in the margins of g twenty in cumbered. and there we thought there was an agreement that group of experts would be meeting that americans would put on the table all the issues which they believe that russia must explain and then the experts would would do this

somehow a few days after the summit under the pressure of those who believe that they had ministration should not discuss anything on cyber security was russia this deal was postponed lately there was signals that the americans are ready to resume this attempt and we would be a ready to discuss any concerns regarding cyber security which the united states might have speaking of cyber security. and the freedom of expression and so on and so forth we are concerned that r.t. which is not foreign to you is being labeled by for example the french government as agents of influence. and the same french government introduced a draft law to their parliament which is intended to compile a blacklist of media outlets we just suspected of spreading fake news

and even most seriously this bleck least would be accompanied by compiling on at the government level at the legislature level at least of media resources which would be recommended to national regulators of cyberspace as reliable sources if it does not censorship if it is not an attempt to. squeeze the space of expression then i don't understand much in this life. i want to add one more thing mr foreign minister. how marlee how can you support someone like assad in syria who is been so brutal to his own people how how did you support him in there in

a civilization how these important. well i think i think you being a politician. i mean some people say being a politician is being cynical something a healthy cynicism is good i believe because to be realistic and we have to be responsible just to fall for the will security for security of our countries for the cooperation of his others which would create conditions making our people safer and if you take a look in retrospect at that region saddam hussein was a dictator. moammar gadhafi was a dictator. but if you can peer the sufferings of the people of iraq libya respectively and the beast the dictators and the president after the

american the nato intervention in iraq and the new libya in violation of international law then i believe the numbers of those who were killed who were wounded who fled their homes would be probably hundreds of thousands more than those who suffered under these regimes. and the same is true for syria the people who ruined iraq who ruined libya now it's right to invite the international community to share responsibility for the migrants crisis. the same people draw no conclusions and they wanted to put syria in the same in the same state some end of his say that the united states might be interested in keeping this region in turmoil so that it can fish in this muddy waters

i don't believe this is this is what the united states wants but when you look at defects it's what's happening it's what's happening and this is not to say that we want to justify dictators but it's to say that before you start an adventure. you must make every step not to be reckless and to find a way to promote democracy changes peacefully it like being knighted states do in many countries of the same very region i don't need to lose that so my point is that we condemn any violations of human rights any of oil a chanst of international humanitarian law of a commute it can be them governments opposition foreign countries interfering but we have to see the entire picture and we have to think about the price of being

moral just for the sake of being moral so you include syria in that statement. yes that's what you asked me about. you know. i'm very glad to hear that mr prime minister thank you so much for giving us your time today have a successful trip to helsinki and let's hope that when we meet in person we have peace in the world would be nice. thank you larry thank you very much for the invitation. and thank you for joining us on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me at king's things and don't forget use the politicking hash tag and

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to us first then the news before we talk about the football the u.s. justice department is charged twelve russians with packing offenses is part of an investigation by special counsel robert muller into alleged meddling in the twenty sixteen presidential election. indictment charges twelve russian military officers by name for conspiring to interfere with the twenty sixteen presidential election. eleven of the defendants are charged with conspiring to hack into computers still documents and release those documents with the intent to interfere in the election . while the twelve russian said to be members of russian military intelligence are accused of hacking democratic party e-mails on hillary clinton's campaign the indictment says they created online personas to publish the stolen information the justice department though says there was quote no evidence the alleged interference changed the course of the election. there's no allegation that the conspiracy

changed the vote count or affected any election result. moscow says the timing of the announcement shows that it's designed to have a negative impact now on monday's putin summit you know in an e-mail discuss the controversy with our correspondent goes down often a bit more depth everything in this investigation when it comes to the packing of the democratic party it provides around the d.n.c. server so we don't know as i've said where moolah got his information from but what we do know is where he didn't get it from apparently and that is the f.b.i. as they themselves have numerously admitted to fail to examine the server themselves have a listen when did the d.n.c. provide access for to the f.b.i. for your your technical folks to review what happened. we never got direct access to the machines themselves for a lot begs the question doesn't it if the f.b.i.

had no access to d.n.c. servers who hurt in this exact case we don't know exactly but we know that previously all the information about this server came from a company named kraut strike it's a company that was hired by the d.n.c. received money for the from the d.n.c. for maintaining and taking care of their servers and so they were the ones who provided the f.b.i. with all the logs and all the information and although strike itself says that the information they gave it's a carbon copy of it's like the exact same thing as what was on the actual server there's no way real way of proving that. you know very fine that because they have tampered with this quite a bit they have already restructured it back in twenty sixteen in this whole server so that did raise some questions as well you did see never turn the server over to law enforcement if you're investigating either from

a law enforcement or from an intelligence standpoint that hacking by foreign hostile government when you want the server wouldn't that help you number one identify who the attacker was if they had turned the server over to either you or director call me maybe we would have no more so i guess what i'm asking you is why would the victim of a crime not turn over a server to the intelligence community or to law enforcement and this question is what many many people are asking because think of it from a following standpoint say there was a crime in some apartment the police show at the door and then the victim's roommate shows up and says look i live in the same room i saw everything happened here's your forensics like fingerprints you know traces of hair d.n.a. you pictures from the crime scene you're all good. and the police they say oh then fine then we won't examine the actual crime scene since what you're showing to us

is the exact copy and the exact like account of events of what happened this is pretty much what the f.b.i. did there what happens now is there a trial well naturally yes this is what mueller is pursuing but there is a catch because look at who he's indicted is indicted several intelligence officers of russia and obviously if there is a try a little base in russia of course and if there is a trial it is said to happen on the u.s. soil no one in their right minds would be sending intelligence officers to a foreign country i mean it doesn't really matter whether or not the are accused of anything whether or not they're guilty or not it just it's intelligence officers they have like information clearances and everything the some of them may not be allowed to travel abroad at all so miller has found is finding himself with this indictment in a very comfortable position because of the trial happens it will be a trial in absentia which means the chances are nobody will represent these

intelligence officers which pretty much guarantees a guilty verdict the executive director the wrong paul pace institute believes the timing of the case here is highly significant. if you're the victim of a crime why would you not want to hand the evidence over to the police the fact of the matter is the company they had doing their security is that it is a politically biased company that was invite involved in all sorts of things you have are saying other thing so it is a it is a big question but the other big question really is the timing once again we have an indictment on a friday before a weekend but not just any weekend this is the weekend before the much anticipated truth and summit of the political implications of dropping indictments to poison the waters in advance of the part about trying to put in some of this is clearly the work of the u.s. state. russia's ties with the u.s. can be repaired says kremlin spokesman to be to peskov these and speaking to go ahead of monday's summit between donald trump and leave him

a pollutant. we knew that mr pascal wouldn't really spill the beans just before the big head to head advantage however we did hear a few things from him lately the media and the west as well as some politicians have really been distressed or even agitated about the summit coming up and the capital of finland feeling that one of the two leaders may use some sort of leverage in a bargaining game while the spokesperson of mr putin says that kremlin isn't looking into any kind of bargaining options i also asked them about some specific potential bargaining chips that would leave go right up to western journalists are going on about some possible big bargaining games that i could on ravel in helsinki of course because should we be watching out for anything like that at all does moscow have any bargaining chips for the americans when you used the word is

absolutely inappropriate instead positions will be compared and there will be clarification as to confirm or dispel any fear is you know that our relations are in a quite pitiful state and you know that russia was in the one who initiated the rooting of the complex of all relations because you know we hope there is a political will to normalize relations but in metal nick a place for him to put up a really so again in the american media that russia might hand edward snowden to u.s. authorities have nothing to do with reality it's for him to stick with it. no they have nothing to do with it it's out of the question. that it was a hoarder or books within the charisma but you know enough but why are you so stubborn what if you constantly even the slightest possibility of discussing or i mean more than some believe it's donald trump who might be ready to start discussing the matter with him a different perspective and kind of like other western politicians out of it maybe it's worth having a go with him go at it not as much as look. ways to discuss this and continually

saying until russia gives crimea back there will be no this sort of repeating this is like some kind of mantra which is absolutely logical but it's a road to nowhere it has no perspective and nothing will come of it come with more on. what is mr trump is the one to stop this but is there any hope of that. you know we are no and never have been wearing rose tinted glasses but we can count on that dmitri pascal hasn't ruled out that the issue of the north stream to by applying for direct natural gas deliveries from russia to the you will be brought in a healthy weight lee mr trump has seemed to be just a step away from even pulling berlin or working together with russia here is the reaction we heard from mr putin's press secretary to that.

let's not forget that north stream too is an international project it's not even russian german or german russian and it's a multinational enterprise which has many shareholders among them very big companies from various countries and let's put it like this threatening the shareholders as well as threatening russia and germany with sanctions if this project goes further these threats are a big concern you get a minute speaking of the enormous amounts of work in terms of perhaps by both administrations the press secretary admitted that the agenda is far from being for here's mr patch dolls with more on that very process. there's no clear agenda existing as it will be created by heads of states as they go. we will be showing the full version of that exclusive interview with the press secretary of the russian president on monday just several hours before donald trump and a lot.