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this minute. not nearest cases of an armed black way and at the hands of the us police have national protests and the rest across america bring the issue of police brutality for what's causing the violence and a way to cool down and. i ask a man who used to sell drugs on the streets and then became a high ranking and y p d officer. for one part of the population these people are going to protect the search for the other they're

looking for prey. serves as a reminder of. how has this situation. spiral so far or so the cops need to right. discrimination by the authorities be proven. and trust be rebuilt. piggy's veteran offstage new york police department and author of once a cop welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us now corey at least three hundred black people were killed by us police and twenty sixteen alone now this makes them three times more likely to be killed by the authorities dead white people seventy percent of the time these people weren't armed or dangerous how can the statistics be explained. well first of all thanks for having me which traditionally in the united states of america black unknown men have been killed at

an enormous rate compared to non black americans in this issue is something that police in these to take control of get a grip of really soon because no longer can the police control the narrative because videos are out there and you see a lot of recent case just in the past few years the video was helping in the enhance these cases in bringing in police offices holding them accountable for the action is least going to trousers and i think that they think in a little more now forty pull a gun out start shooting someone now if a police officer fears for his are her alive they are allowed to shoot this essentially gives them the power to be the judge and executioner at any given moment how do you understand when to take this kind of authority well let me just clarify when a cop can be in fear of life it doesn't mean that they have to shoot someone you can always retreat you can run you don't have to shoot you shoot if you filled that

your life is in imminent danger or someone else right there at that moment i somebody is going to use deadly physical force if you don't have that if there's an imminent deadly physical force being used against you or another right now you're not allowed to pull your file amount to shoot but corey on the other hand police have to be ready to face a person with a gun and according to the latest pew research poll is gonna order ship levels in the united states has increased to forty four percent is that why officers feel that you know sometimes they have to pull the trigger. no. mana guns as in america it doesn't weighs on wood it doesn't weigh on the cops i'm on when they get ratings who won't engage in diversion in a gun battle like i said previously the only time is when they see the gun on the

trigger somebody is about to start shooting at them or someone else imminently causing deadly physical force to occur if that's not happening it doesn't matter how many people carrying guns cops or the ones that's supposed to be out there troll in the area and getting guns off the streets i've been a situations where people pull out guns and i didn't file or that person didn't fire and we disarmed them in a rest that happens every day in new york city and around america but you know what also happens a lot when people reach for their wallets or water or phone and they get shot because police officer somehow think that they're reaching for their gun. what about those cases. yes in those cases remember these you got to understand in defense of police officers these are split second decisions that they're making and then after these decisions occur we sit back we have a lot of time we can sit down and review it now in order for cops to stop shooting

unknown people one of the first things they need to do in these situations is get behind some cover or concealment if you're not behind cover you know come up by you time that gives you that extra second go to to make sure that so while eight or so roboto or a candy bar just standing in the middle of a street and someone reaches in their back in their back or they waistband the cop is not going to sit did give them the benefit of the doubt because people should be reaching their waist being with cops have guns trained on them same police don't move and so these are split second decisions it's tragic decisions some of them the cops are overzealous in my opinion and a lot of people are playing in america some of these cops are overzealous. cops should be behind cover and concealment because that buys you time and gets you to analyze the situation before you start firing police officers are not always punished for violence statistics by mapping police violence just that ninety seven

percent of cases did not result in a police officer being charged why i mean our gerri is inclined to side with the police does that create a sense of impending for certain members of the police. now what we're talking about to disciplinary system i think is flawed. you're talking about cases that go to a jury it's my personal belief and the belief of some people out hit that i truly believe if a cop is involved in this shooting that this would be a special prosecutor that comes in and enhanced a case you should have the local district attorney prosecuting cops because district attorneys and cops are pretty much laying in bed together and so the district attorney again in my opinion i how hard are they going to go to prosecute the person that the police officer is just like the cases that now where are we gonna who we all saw was murdered on television in a medical exam they said it was

a homicide as fixie ation the district attorney out there stat now i didn't try hard to get an indictment is very easy to get an indictment of anybody in america he didn't try hard because he didn't want to get an indictment now you sat in the beginning that videos help with the situation with police shootings now a lot of incidents become public knowledge almost instantly thanks to police cam surveillance social media but with all this reason cases why isn't this helping curb the violence. it hasn't curb the violence because again like the police department is they have to hold these cops feet to the fire the district attorneys have to put on strong cases when in fact that you can see that there was some mis you know misdoings by the police officer now in a the black and hispanic minority community all they action for is like the freddy

gray case down in baltimore all six cops were acquitted of the crime but at least a went to trial before the cameras cops were killing people unknown black men was dying and nobody was being held accountable at least now when i say cameras i hope at least net we've seen it on video to actually go into court and put on a trial. peers or a judge and that's all we can really x. ford now but inside internally these police chiefs and superintendents need to stop firing these cops need to be more psychological evaluations maybe every three to five years i mean i was a cough a twenty one years i have one cycle. own evaluation in one thousand nine hundred two and then gnome two thousand and thirteen i retired i don't have a number once i went twenty one years without anybody x. me you saw all of these things going on it was command of some of the words priest is in the city you saw a lot of dead bodies are you ok are you alright and that's what they need to do

because you weeded out these police officers as a heart for black police officers to speak out i mean are they more. about speaking out about the wrongdoings of their white colleagues or perhaps not sympathizing with black communities. i think it's a little bit of both one no one wants to be ostracized that's one of the problems you know throughout my career as you know if you read the book i've been outspoken since i became a police officer because i knew where i came from i know what my ancestors went through a new doubt malcolm x. martin luther king jr was paved a way for me and they spoke out and made it possible for me to even be a police officer but some of these cops black officers get into these police diplomas and they want to fit in so they want to get be a part of that blue wall and they keep their mouth shut because it's all about them but for me it was always about who's coming after me how my family going to fill i got to be to fall to my house i got to be a hero to my kids so i can go to work and not see something and don't say me day

that just does not work for me but a lot of black cops out here are just going along to get along because they had a house a white picket fence and a call and it's all about them but it's not about them it's about us it's about the young black men and women hispanic my no resists out there being abused and let me just make no mistake about it that the overwhelming majority of cops out there doing the right thing they're doing the job every day but we need to weed out the bad ones because the bad ones give everybody a very bad name but it's also known that police officers who report wrongdoings in their units are labeled threats by their fellow cops is there a current culture inside the police force. oh yeah their label rights was that's why the police diplomas they have to have oem you know like in the n.y.p.d. we have internal affairs is you know who's to watch told for corruption nomen when

people make allegations against cops you know they're protected they've got to have they've got to have mechanisms in place in these police departments will give incentives or how about you know i always say well you know whenever a cop get in a shooting they promote him to detect well how about promoting a cop that tells you you know breaks a case of you know three or four rogue officers in that priests and how about lift him him or her and you've got to make incentives because if you don't have incentives no one wants to stay and be on the front line speaking about something to be besides me i did it all the time and i was ostracized but i didn't really care was in about me it was about us and making sure that offered to do people would look like me when i was working in their community so as a police officer as part of america's largest police force the n.y.p.d. i realize that you probably feel a sense of responsibility to the black community and the authorities so where does this distrust come from between the police and minority communities. what did

distress is quite evident to distrust is because. you know we say that in black communities day hunt and white communities they protect and serve is no secret when you can just look at stop question and frisk which is you know something that's major and it's been ruled unconstitutional by further will judge you look it was like ninety to ninety five percent of those stops will black male hispanics and you when you put it on the map it's all a black and hispanic communities now do not non-black in hispanic communities is a white people they commit they commit crimes that's something drugs we got a opiate issue out here in new york along our suffolk in crime but then i didn't stop and bent her stand i didn't stop and white stone so day a target in our communities and when you talk into community you break the distrust

that's how you get to distrust between the cops and the minority community there's no one trust the police at a certain point is a segment of the community that just does not trust the police. we're going to break right now we'll be back with corey the police officer who served with the allied little for twenty one years because of the problems of police treatment of the african-american community. i think this catastrophe of holding in britain for the past fifteen years or so was its connection. and the ability to have the currency and yet ask for rights.

goes away and you have essentially greece on steroids and all those banks and the e.u. and america are going to attack the plate and drive into the back of. the we're back with. former deputy inspector at the n.y.p.d. officer of one side cop talking about the called mccabe relationship. and the black community welcome back corey so that says apartment hands military equipment to

police across the country why is this happening and what are police in a small town need armored vehicles or machine guns what for. well that's been that been a major issue than it was since the ferguson. ferguson effect and we saw the police rolled in a row with tanks and p. five machine guns and we don't need that you don't you know so let me just be clear . you can have that type of equipment but you know me to bring it down and this is absolutely necessary when we look at these police diplomas rolling around in tanks in m.p. five machine gun strapped to the back have a log in it looks as if ferguson was iraq and that's not the case you need to be able to articulate and talk to people bill relationship status how you stop these rises by building relationships you can have a riot and don't have any connections to the community because it's going to be

a real rye where you're going to be jumping on cause break and it's a houses and then you're going to be forced to bring that stuff out so do they necessarily need it you know i look at the n.y.p.d. we have all the best equipment in the in the in the country we've had riots and you never see daylight p.d. rolling down a block where on trucks because we believe we lay ships out here with the important people in the community where you don't need that you don't need all of this equipment and urban environment that officers make up only twelve percent of all local police officers and those are the thinkers from twenty fifteen and that number is not growing why are black people joining the police force as much they prevented from doing. what is if there's a few issues here one young black men don't want to be police officers to a certain extent then you have this piece to it is that day a week in our black offices for petty stuff like bad credit. you know if they had

some is like you know speeding tickets a some day when i'm out when you look at the counterpart the white officers to have the same issues that the black officers i have and they're allowed to get on the job and a black horse is a being weeded out because every time they tell me that they can't find a black offices i can name twenty five black officers that took the police tests and they're ready to go to be high it is and you see a police officer so i don't know what these investigators are doing but we do know the numbers of very low and in the black community there's a lot of kids that want to be cops and there's a segment that don't want to be cops because of the treatment that they see on television the treatment that they might have once army is caught on a. black officer corey you join the cops to become a cop you serve twenty one years well why did you want it what made you do it why can't others to just like you. one of us can do it and they need to have that

opportunity like i said i could speak foot in a suit police to palm in and i know people in investigations unit that investigate cops do we now like officers as such a high rate then non-black offices it's hard to get those numbers up but i do know of countless black young men and women that want to be police officers they just had a test recently on a day as a test coming up and a lot of people signed up for the test and then the new york city police department closed the file and like fourteen days before the end it was supposed to be to the end of january and they close they close it at like january fourteenth fifteenth so now you've got all the days my no restraint in that they could file up to january thirty first and they closed it so that's a number that's another way or trick to not get people to apply and they say hey we only got this small segment and that's not true because people are going out to churches speaking community based organizations church schools trying to recruit

young men and women so tell me something how rampant is does discrimination inside the police force i mean i think you know what public with your story about going from drug dealing to becoming an officer there were attempts to reduce your penchant. for a climate. where well. before a crime i was in part of the crime we talk about that ok so when a cop was murdered. so discrimination is there so when i look at feel we say that you know the minority out of my georgia meaning they got more minorities did they have. anybody in police department but what i look at is the powell positions when you look at the top of the police department the commission is why. the chief of department is way the chief of detectives is why its chief of internal affairs is way the chief of ent terrorism is why those are the powell positions so you can have

a bunch of black cops running around industry and hispanics but they don't have no power so when you talk about power i need i need to be in a power policymaking position where i could change some the highest ranking black officer and a new police department is in charge of housing you know a housing this housing is like all a low public housing for the projects so they put the black man in charge of the projects he doesn't have power he's not in charge of new year's day for every he's not in charge of thanksgiving day parade he's not in charge of. terrorism all he is is out the dealing with issues in the housing development of black and hispanics so i don't i don't buy the fact that the minority or majority of his majorities are when you have power when you have power that's when you can make change but there's another thing that i'm also wondering why someone like you who is turned their life or out from a street dealer to a top call. a threat to the n.y.p.d. i mean shouldn't your story be an inspiration. yeah you know it's funny to me that

you say that because i'm a lot of people say that. i mean i'm a true american success story from where i came from to women now and the things that i've done i mean you know my mother didn't have a good education my father did a couple oldest siblings then i got a few degrees. i'm an american success story my last crime i committed was one thousand nine hundred seventy ideate somethin i mean eighty seven eighty eight for almost thirty years of being clean as a whistle i'm doing some phenomenal things in the community and they should read in me and when they talk about they have issues with recruiting minorities i'm the guy i'm the guy that they should be consulting with taking me to the projects or housing developments sinnott me out to the churches this stuff because i resonate with people when i speak they listen if they know that i come from where they came

from and i could tell them i use a great job if you come in and the mind is focus you can do some great things and that's why my daughter is a cop and i love being a police officer because we can't keep saying we don't want to be cops because you're never going to be able to effect change unless you come in there but as long as the n.y.p.d. has a chip on his shoulder corey figgis it really doesn't bother me but i don't hate the n.y.p.d. but they should utilize my skill set and my skill set is going to black communities motivate and encouraging young black kids to do the right thing and also join a job because that's what you can make the change you got to be in it to win it so killing black men by police sparked riband shootings there have been several instances of black rancher waiting what placement what do you think can a radical element and lurch from this movement against police brutality and if yes then how do you keep it at bay. would you tell my radical islam terrorism no or

i'm just talking about you know why police men shooting. black man for nothing and then black men shooting why policemen back as a revenge. oh a lot of. i truly doubt that that will happen that never really happens and there is a very small when you look at these police shooting is very very small segment of black cops shoot them white. perpetrators is very small as a matter of fact around america the overwhelming majority of cops who shoot and kill people are white cops they shoot and kill and white people black people spanish people asian people as you see a white cop as doing that is very rare and you know was really something that you don't understand and know in new york city in the history of new york city there's never been an on duty white officers shot on duty cop where there's been several on

duty black officers while he was working that was shot by cops that work and what p.d. because they had on plain clothes because what happens is when a cop see a black man with a gun is a criminal when they see a white man running down the street with a gun they get from that split second to identify himself as a cop but you've got to be black cop on duty in plain clothes trying to take action these cops out there shooting at them for no apparent reason whatsoever and not given them a chance to identify themselves we lost it was like that desmond rubbish and got shot like that and is a few of us that i can name now corey you were heading up one of the most violent pressing and why i see you say you saw a drop in crime was it your background that helped you in that how did you behave differently from a typical pressing director. well thanks for saying that oh man it needs to be noted every year that i was a commanding officer for about five or six years i had

a decrease in every single year and i want to believe that my background definitely my d.n.a. has something to do with it i always worked in communities of color actually black communities for the most part and i knew how to resonate with people but it's not just that i held the cops feet to the fire they knew that if they went out there and they did something crazy or something that was against the rules they had to deal with me and i was going to take vacation days from them recommend terminations suspend them on the spot and so my record you know my reputation proceed to me that they knew i was not playing games going to come to work we're going to treat these people year in this low class area but we're going to treat them with respect because these are just the circumstances in life that was put on them that they live but that doesn't mean that you treat them like that a scum of the earth when talking to corey peggy is a veteran and y p d officer who spent twenty one years on the force author of once a cop discussing the issues of racial bias in the police and its thorny

relationship with the african-american community in the rocks and states that's it for this edition of southie and call for the next time.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race is often spearing dramatic development only mostly i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk.

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