changed four hours ago and thinks to me. always. talk about his deal making skills and yes i did think that was interesting that he was saying that four hours ago that change and from here we can finally move forward obviously something that was discussed quite a lot a lot of the questions coming from the journalist were about russian meddling again and something extremely interesting that trump also commented on what an amazing offer it was was coming from putin he was saying that if the u.s. would be open to it to sending an official request to look into the accusations that are being made against russian nationals that the u.s. could even send over representatives to be a part of that questioning but he did make the caveat that this would need to be a two way street but then russia would also want to be involved in their side it takes two to tango and it takes two to play political football and i think that connects and ties well with the with the reference of the ball being in the russian core the secretary of state. side

a couple of days ago i think putin kicked the ball back on to the american side and he can now say that you want to pursue that further ok we are ready to play along but you will have to reciprocate and reciprocity is a very important pillar of the russian policy you cannot expect russia to be the only one the. american voting in the united states will have to play along but i said that it was a very clever political move and geopolitical move and i hope i'm not very optimistic on that regard that it will finally put to rest all this american speculation about the meddling because you know the american media very good at playing out of the history of. push comes to shop and one of those cases reach the courtroom they tend to fall apart so i think this is what president putin said just being a former student of law he's actually trying to. that case turned that case

towards the legal proceedings and i want to continue speaking with you but we do have on the line now our correspondent in the upper trend who has been in health for us now what are the presidents have to say. jacqueline hello again first of all i want to tell you that right now i'm standing just meters away where and donald trump were giving their press conference and i'll be glad to share all the details with you it's a bit difficult to digest everything right now but let me just go through the first part of the press conference both leaders actually agree that this is the time to stop this collapsing of bilateral relations between russia and the u.s. so just take a moment to listen to what both leaders said about that. what do you to everyone

the by literally relationship are going through a complicated stage and yet those impedance. the current. tense atmosphere essentially have no solid reason behind it the global war is a thing of past our relationship has never been worse. that is now however changed as of about four hours ago. some like to focus on the speeches of both president separately first lot of our. first began with mentioning that a specific written message was passed over to the american delegation with suggestions when it comes to investigating the allegations of possible russian meddling in the u.s. election he also moved on to talk about syria according to vladimir putin right now

there are all elements there out there for the two countries to work together to establish peace and stability there then when mr trump took the floor. he used the words very well that was his assessment of the talks and then he moved on to talk about syria as well where according to the american president if both countries work together they will be able to save hundreds of thousands of lives these are the exact words from donald trump when he was talking about syria and then came the time for questions donald trump had several things to say about his outlaws on the north stream pipeline project that is a top line for direct natural gas deliveries from russia to the e.u. now russia has had many concerns about potential pressure from washington on

germany according to donald trump in this particular case it is going to be fewer competition so he is planning to compete for the offers and for its are certain share of natural gas deliveries to germany but he refused to talk about any possible pressure on the. german government from what he was saying it seems that watching. looking through her brain from these kind of things he was also asked about whether they become friends this is obviously referring to something donald trump said previously when he was asked whether a lot of reporting him was a friend or foe donald trump once again said that the russian president before him as a competitor he used the words good competitor and also added that perhaps being a good competitor is a compliment however when further questions followed essentially most of the ones

that were asked by the u.s. media were again about the allegations of russians interfering russian government in particular interfering in the u.s. election two years ago and here is what the two leaders said about that. the president you tweeted this morning that it's u.s. foolishness stupidity and the moeller probe that is responsible for the decline in u.s. relations with russia. do you hold russia at all accountable for anything in particular and if so what would you what would you consider them that they are responsible for yes i do i hold both countries responsible i think that the united states has been foolish i think we've all been foolish we should have had this to a long time ago i think that the probe is the disaster for our country i think it's kept us apart it's kept a separate it there was no collusion at all everybody knows it i didn't know the

president. there was nobody to collude with. it was it was not to be believed we could we can trust no one. is what did you get this idea of the drum trust me or i just here in. the interest of the united states of america and i do defend the. gist of the russian federation so far though she interviews we do have and usually. mean we should wish to because of the . so let me just go through the words that donald trump used once again the probe is a disaster there was zero collusion i don't see any reason why rush would be interested in that where is the server these are the kind of things we often hear from donald trump but this time donald trump twice mentioned that he believes that mr proven as made a very good suggestion the investigators the people who are looking into this case

from both countries possibly working together this is what came from the russian side this time around and kremlin is hoping that perhaps this offer may be accepted now on the one hand one area of possible cooperation was looking promising that is syria on the one hand the militaries have been able to maintain contacts and really to prevent the military says the two countries from colliding in syria that's one side of the coin but then on the other of course there are complex thing as strength interests are of israel which is a partner both from russia and the u.s. and iran and syria so that's why my question for donald trump yes indeed i did ask both leaders a question was whether any specific arrangement on syria have been made and for

some reason donald trump decided to talk about israel first so judging by that you can understand that the commitment to the ties with this country and to commit u.s. commitment to the interests of tel aviv there will remain however donald trump did say that the militaries of the two countries work together better than. and the governments the white house and the kremlin so we did get a message from the few presidents that perhaps soon of the militaries can work together other authorities as well and in that case some specific arrangements on bringing peace to syria together could be made. artie's. cross the story line for us in helsinki thank you for bringing us that report. that we can now cross live to . a top level soviet conference interpreter for us thank you so much for joining us on the program today now the interpreters are usually the only people to know what

was really said in the meeting how much of such secret talks are usually made public by leaders. while i think this press conference was actually quite useful because they talked at some length about what they. actually discussed to the press conference last two or. more than half an hour and they read statements that i think describe. quite fully perhaps not fully but. at length so what actually happened in their discussions. with mr pasha and this is exxon i hear let me add my question and one of the things that i noticed from the initial photographs of from the meeting between the leaders and their teams was that there

were five people from the american side and six people from the russian side which included an interpreter so i assume the whole negotiating at the both negotiating teams relied on the services of a russian interpreter and i checked his name is alex they said because he's considered one of the best interpreters with the russian foreign ministry and i said. fred that they are going to be a lot of speculations in that western media he might have manipulated the translation in russian interests somehow do you think that would have been possible that if the team did it relies on the one interpreter the russian interpret in this case that he could have added something to the conversation that would skew the i have no idea what happened. right i have no idea what happened on this occasion it is extremely rare just won the interpreter from one side let's say this the russian side is president of the so i would say that that would be very unusual

and certainly that could have allowed for some speculation i would assume that they were their word interpreters on both sides well i am referring only to the photos that we have seen so far so i do not know for for a fact that the american side did not bring their own interpreter in but judging from your own experience i assume that interpretation a translation is actually a pretty hard word but do you think that. a lousy scope for political manipulation i mean when you are interpreter on the scene what do you think about you know refrain reframing what is being savage in favor of one side or the or another. no interpret those when they please when they please that's the rule of all professional. and professional moments and ethical norm and i'm sure that

to whoever is involved on either side on the russian side on the u.s. side to follow the rules. now an interpreter on such talks is usually also a diplomat who has worked with the president at international events with this in mind is an interpreter or asked for his or her opinion during such talks. very rarely during such talks but sometimes yes after the talks or perhaps before the talks that might happen. it doesn't happen very often because normally there is a lower rate than the deputy ministers and brass leaders and others who accompany the president but that has happened on occasion and on my watch yes mr bush and can ask you one more question about. that actually bill language that interpreters now

have to deal with because i understand in your. day and age the american english was a little bit more for formal than it is right now because we had dealing with a party very particular group of americans who use a lot a lot of colloquial who use a lot of. phrases in expressions that is that the russians may not necessarily be familiar with do you think that presents any additional challenge to interpret somebody like for example mr trump. well president trump is not always easy to understand but so far as colloquialisms are concerned i would say that. president reagan's. english was quite colloquial president bush often used colloquial phrases. secretary shultz i remember how once he said well the other shoe will drop and he fully expected.

his interpreter to know what it is and he i don't recall any particular problems or difficulty is of this kind certainly it's a great responsibility we're trying to prepare as best we can as we try to follow the evolution of the language. to follow and understand the new things the new localism and phrases that emerge that come up from time to time i think interpretation now is in good hands i listened to the interpretation of the press conference i think they did a good job can i can i jump in once more because i know that he personally interpreted it during the meeting of president reagan and president gorbachev and mr trump obviously likes to compare himself to ronald reagan do you think when it

comes to the use of the language similar. no i don't think they are different in terms of the kind of person that they are and that is reflected also in the language and the way they they phrase things and . in the way they try to convey their thoughts not you of course have a lot of experience in this field you took part in ten u.s. soviet summits you watch what happened today heard what they said at the press conference how would you analyze overall what we saw today given the fact that their talks went over time and just what we heard from them during the press conference. i think it's a shame that it took so much time to arrange the first full scale meeting between the two presidents i think it's good that they met i think that. it's clear that

there might be the beginning of some. constructive discussions on some issues that really are crucial such as nuclear weapons such as stocks and i.m.f. where there are some issues between the two countries however i also. i think that the path forward on all issues will be extremely difficult that that is the bottom line that i kind of draw from the press conference. but overall do you see this is a positive step forward do you think this summit could affect the current state of relations between the two countries. absolutely as president reagan said when he took a walk with present. in red square thirty years ago it's important to talk to each other rather than about each other and i think that this

is beginning to happen but as i say it's positive but the path forward will be difficult. well i think that's a great quote i know that you perhaps heard that this meeting today started maybe a one on one between the two presidents and from what i heard this is actually a tradition that the americans have long maintained they actually like to have this one on one informal one on one between the two leaders before the formal talks proceed i wonder if there was any informal meeting between reagan and gorbachev when they mad for that presidential founded back in the eighty's. oh absolutely every summit that they had started with a one on one meeting and. liked it as as as much as reagan liked it because it's important to refuse to discuss certain things in private and this is

how the geneva summit the first summit in one thousand eighty five started. was an initial contact to wasn't necessarily very smooth but as i say every one of their summits. and also the subjects to present coverage of a president bush started with one on one it was a very important part of all the good solutions. all right that was leaving soviet conference interpreter pavel franco thank you so much for joining us today. thank you for having me and of course we still have a boycott here in the studio and let's go ahead and keep talking about what topics putin and trying to touch on during that press conference something that can't come up for him up as well was also syria and they talked about the idea of how the two

putin specifically talks about how the idea of the two countries could come together and be a role model of joint cooperation in resolving the crisis there how likely do you think that is well we will have to wait and see but this is an all female on the part of the russian president he previously that might blame the united states for failing to show genuine little ship in the aftermath of the still be if union collapse he said on many occasions that rather than trying to steer the international system toward peace. accommodation mutual accommodation the united states to call the role of a global call up somebody who pursued its interests. at the expense of everybody else's interests and i'm pretty sure the president putin sees the ukrainian crisis in quite the same terms he sees the syrian crisis i thing in through the similar prism of the united states pushing it have the funding and supporting of certain

rebel groups also allowing its allies in the region particularly the gulf they do the same rather than trying to find a mutually amicable solution as for the current situation in syria things both presidents try to emphasize that there is some overlapping interest there is some positive. commendation both from the american side and from the russian side but whether it's going to take any. nobody can tell of this moment and something else that wouldn't address was the economy he said that they were going to set up a high level working group in order to spur trade and business between the two countries how do you think the u.s. is going to react especially those that are opposed to donald trump to that i am sure you know the answer i found that that was a very interesting example of the flattery maybe towards mr trump because he had tried to convey the message that business people know the best and i'm sure

the trunk with inquiry with that but it's. over and you may need political scientists believe that one of the reasons is the relationship to this point is because there are very few stakeholders between russia and the united states b. companies who would hear about the nature on behalf of bilateral relations. he also said what i thought was very interesting mr putin said the two countries still have to speak about the overarching philosophy of the bilateral relationship and he said just that they also need to convey. working. maid of top political scientist in both countries who take stock of what has happened up until now and see if we can move forward whether that's going to happen and who knows i think the political class especially the political class of the united states still opposed to mr trump count sabotage this process but let's hope for the best. something else interesting was said about syria when president was asked by our correspondent. as to whether

or not they had signed any specific specific movements on working together in syria he kept referring to israel in his work with israel and russia was also working with them and that perhaps the three of them could come together do you think we might be seeing something there or is that just a bit of a misunderstanding we're definitely seeing something there and there have been reports in the western media that particularly prime minister netanyahu was instrumental in pushing the trumpet ministration to halt holds this meeting with president putin and russia enjoys a fairly good relationship with that country some say it's actually the best in the history of bilateral ties russian israel bilateral ties but obviously russia cannot . only interest on the world stage as some would argue mr trump does because russia has really sees itself as a neutral power broker and a power broker that tries to get to the point where all the sides within the very

very difficult. situation can. find interests that includes first and foremost iran so obviously we cannot expect israeli interest to win over those of the iran because iran obviously also has a security interest in syria. now the western media before this meeting has been saying quite a lot of what they think about trump meeting with president putin and what that means anderson cooper has just come out saying that the trump was one of the quote most disgraceful disgraceful performances by an american president what do you make of that comment i think the american media really should moralizing and. try and allies and that it's really tiring to hear all those. statements and even if you don't like president trump he's already your president i guess it would be nice to hear somebody in that position as anderson cooper who

commands attention of millions of americans to come up with some. articulate policy stance is rather than. to seek to put down. every occasion i mean you may dislike him but at least articulate your position rather than costing those moral judgments sure and some very nice we saw was at the end when they were talking about syria president putin presented donald trump with a football. from the world cup saying that the ball is now in their court do you think there was something more in that that it was just a random event that he decided to play that along with syria and football or was that just i read more into it but obviously the kremlin does have a legitimate explanation that the united states is set to host the world cup back in two thousand and twenty six but i want to take back to you. one

statement mr could be interpreter that we interviewed earlier didn't say but i think he was kind of embedded with it with it with within his interview remember it was ronald reagan who. trust but verify and it was actually a translation of the russian phrase the president and the both leaders actually thank you talked about building that trust between the two countries the trust that is just absolutely lost not over not only because of the allegation meddling but also because of what happened in ukraine what happened in syria there very strong mutual agreement as on both sides but if we can take that as a starting point of building something that would benefit all of us i think that would be. not only to the benefit of all those involved but actually to the credit of this man regardless whether you like them or hate them

well in speaking of trust at one point president putin was saying that you really can't trust anyone the president is going to work for his interests and don't try. it's going to work. this country they're very clear that. how they can force these powers looking for certain areas where those interests can overlap and obviously mr trump comes to that from a competitor perspective he enjoys competition i'm pretty sure there is street getting mr putin as well even though russia obviously is a. much weaker country in terms of the economy in terms of its diplomatic clout. the united states is still a superpower but. they said that you know we can see that we are not we are trying to do what's best for our countries we can do it in the normal respectful way you can respect your enemies you can respect your rivals and there

is nothing wrong with that that does not constitute a collusion or betrayal of treason that is actually how you do you things in a normal way i miss it do you think the public will appreciate such a candid answer from him saying that you know he doesn't fully trust me i don't fully trust him that's the way things are well i don't know if that's candid i think that's just common sense i'm in it would be foolish on the part of mr putin to fully trump mr trump or any other american there were let's say german leader for that matter i think all international relations are ultimately build on yes a certain amount of trust but that trust needs to be built and we can certainly not we cannot count on that trust to be existing at this point of time thank you so much going to be very. to the u.k. now it's been revealed that british labor party members responsible for facebook

ads in the general election made leader jeremy corbyn and his closest aides say different ads from the general public are joins me live with the details. how did this all come to light. well this is all been revealed in the new in a new book that's just been published it's all about the effect of media on politics and the allegation is that in the run up to the general election that we had here in the u.k. just over a year ago now senior labor party star members that are hall style to jeremy corbin that's the leader of the labor party they used targeted facebook ads in order to trick the labor leader into thinking that the campaigns that he wanted rolled out nationally in terms of facebook advertising were being rolled out nationally in actual fact they were just being targeted at the labor leader and his close group of aides and journalists that he knows so it was the campaigns that the senior

party officials hostile to jeremy call been the ones that they didn't approve of that they did that to jeremy corbyn would be under the mistaken impression that these campaigns are being rolled out nationally so bit of a twenty first century sabotage and take a listen to the way that jeremy corbyn the labor party leader was. by is only parsi . although they were told to be from ation one of their regarded as month gap such as one on the water registration they made sure that few sources must just accept a tiny slice of left wing activists if it was there for them they thought it must be there for everyone it wasn't that's how targeted it's going to work. pretty dysfunctional so clearly a few issues that between the polity and.