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man who is now its president and this is they're going into the midterms the election this is what they want to do they want to start picking off moderate republicans as they go into the election here it's because donald trump is a traitor that's their new message here i think that's disgusting ok when you start questioning other people's patriotism you know you're in a bad place go ahead mary. well i think i think those were the very extreme comments from the extreme and people who were talking after the after the press conference i think that in one respect maybe they reflect the views of people who still hope against hope that the may possibly be grounds for impeachment and obviously we're looking at the sort of pre run up to the midterm elections and i think that's entirely right but what i find very difficult to gauge
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from here is i understand the mood in washington and to a lesser extent i understand it as it were on the coasts and democratic dominated coast but i wonder how much trumps natural constituency heartland america is going to respond to this do you think it's going to pick up the idea that the president they elect is actually disloyal to his to his odin people or are they going to say no no the establishment the establishment has betrayed us not the president you know mary it's true it's really interesting i've been saying over the last few weeks here and i and viewers will know it you know how i think that trump has this envelope in his pocket and he pulls it out after every single promises been kept i met putin ok check supreme court justice check jobs tariffs check check check it's not about america first it's about donald
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trump first ok and as far as the heartland this whole russia gate nonsense for them it's essentially nonsense it's a stick to beat the president and it's the liberal media that does it so i think that's already answered let me go to michael because michael and i fundamentally disagree on almost every single thing ok except for the world cup was great but i want to be friendly to my friend michael because i think. one of the things i think is so tragic is that you've been mentioning. on the margins you know the essentials behind the case for russia did meddle in the election and i you know what i think you're a good honorable man and you believe what you say but people like myself actually believe i actually believe what i say to and this is the longer head that we have come into and i and i think disagreement is really really good and we have a good banter but i'm not going to say that you're
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a traitor to your own country because you disagree with me and i think this is what's happening right now in the u.s. and that can lead to no good and go ahead michael i agree with you on that point i think mr brennan who's a very honorable man an important man in our country because he was a cia director he really would have been better advised not to use that word he could have been very very scathing in his critique of the specific sentence that donald trump used in regard to this twenty sixteen issue i think he could have been very tough on that particular point but one thing i learned a long time ago even before getting into public policy debates in television is when you're going to criticize somebody criticize a specific thing they did or a specific word and give them a chance therefore to make amends don't don't try to make it about the broader character now donald trump does invite debate about your character because we know he is a very controversial polarizing figure so it becomes almost a temptation it's a temptation that people are better off trying to resist these specific in your
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criticisms that's the way i try to operate with this or any other president you know danielle ok i'm going to get real partisan again right now you know i looked at you know james komi comes out with a measured brennan comes out i wonder if peter struck is talking about this here i mean the i can understand how donald trump i mean he's been it office you know five hundred days plus you know and he's still having to have to deal with when this brennan going to be deposed when is he going. to be questioned ok i would like to know that ok there's a number of very thoughtful smart people that think that brennan could be one of the primary movers behind this big conspiracy i mean it seems to me that he's projecting so much because he has a lot to answer for and he won't because he he everybody right everybody wraps themselves up on the flag on this one and that's where it gets really dicey go ahead daniel. also brennan has been chastised by his own colleagues senate
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democrats for lying to congress as well and nothing ever came of that on critical intelligence testimony both behind closed doors and overtly this is interesting that part you're bringing into the politics of this the base trump thing i'll give him the most credit in the world as a lifelong democrat turned into a tea party evangelical baby boomer fox news viewer you know individual good bridges all of titian good for you know it's his base. he knows his base better than anybody that's why he tweets the red meat to them i think that checklist you have we're going to end up seeing that on campaign rallies across the country the next few months they will not move the needle and the more the elite engages and slams him on this press conference and engagement with russia and try to promulgated further rush or phobia more of his base will completely turn that off
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now the interesting part taking place the last few days and into the next several days is that fox news itself the channel that protects the president is definitely there neo con faction and there is tacking well to lift the cli since this press conference so that may have made cam's tender a little bit of a fair chunk of carlie certainly continues to travel down the straight line and i give him kudos for that he did a great excellent job yeah ok absolutely let's get back and some. because like i like michael i'm i'm a policy guy i like policy ok all of this is great entertainment you know if you love or hate someone it's still winter training you know did you see the needle movie at all for syria ukraine arms control these are topics i'm interested in and i would like to see address is your inkling that something is started even if we use the term baby steps. yes i mean i think that quite a lot has actually started and that you know if anybody actually listened or
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remembered what putin was saying in his statement at the opening of the press conference which has been practically written out of the script now because american domestic politics has taken over there were the there were some quite specific moves which i think at least make it possible that can be there can be advances there was the question of syria and the united states helping with reconstruction and setting up actual arrangements for that to happen. there was i think probably the most disappointing from my perspective was that i didn't see any real progress on ukraine. though putin really answered for trouble when he made clear that there was still disagreement and that trump hadn't actually surrendered on the matter of crimea which is what people had suggested he might do in advance i think there are going to be working groups set up on the various arms
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control treaties existing ones that need to be. continued and maybe new ones in the pipeline so i think there's been progress on all those areas plus the actual fact that this meeting happened so that. an atmosphere and. dialogue of persona could maybe so long has been established so i think we are further forward i think we're further forward maybe not very much but i. think we often michael basically the same question i mean you're a policy guy i read your stuff in the three areas that i mentioned there has the needle moved in your mind because you know putin was the one that brought up about crimea if you don't let me give an example for our viewers here i think a lot of people don't know that after the baltic republics were brought into the soviet union during the second world war the united states and its allies never recognized the baltic republics as part of the soviet union but they had arms
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control agreements trade agreements the leaders met each other they had high points and they had low points but that didn't stop that bilateral relationship so why can't we do the same thing now ok the united states and its allies did not does not they do not recognize crimea as a part of the sovereign state of russia but life goes on and you know you know the the the people of the crimea of already made up their mind i mean it seems to me common sense but common sense doesn't prevail go ahead michael well i agree with most of what you and mary just say that she did a very nice job of summarizing what we know about the policy discussions especially on syria to some extent on crimea and your point's well taken that this is something that we can disagree about but yet still contain it doesn't have to dominate the relationship i would like to see a fuller discussion on security in eastern europe as you know but maybe there were baby steps accomplished at least. let's go to daniel daniel i mean how is tom i
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mean does it trumps mine was this a victory because i haven't heard i haven't read it read only. the summit here i mean how we see going to sell it because i did notice we're rapidly running out of time nobody in his inner circle has actually spoken to the press that i'm aware of go ahead. i think the jury's out as to hell he'll react in how hill assess this over time and if the elite media continues to assail him and his base stays with him it will be a very. dury and i think on these key points syria ukraine and arms control we will know when weeks and months whether the needle is move whatsoever i think on syria is where i'm the most cautiously optimistic that there may be some sort of path of agreement that we could move forward in the north and as well in the with the regime but we shall see over the next weeks and months and no matter what happens from the u.k. to the u.s. we will still see prolific a didn't cross the news this attack as well as russia is
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and russia phobia is the enemy and the responsibility for anything that happened in our election to bragg's it and stead of the internal revolt you know let me get modern and government failing that people going to close on these words here when the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of losers socrates that's all the time we have many thanks to my guests in washington and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time and remember rules.
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have president putin he just said it's not russia i will say this i don't see any reason why it would be donald trump faces yet. class from the mainstream media back tracking on his claim that he sees no reason why russia would have the us presidential election. america's news outlets a russian citizen a spy for a u.s. grand jury expounds allegations against. an agent of a foreign government. india's highest court is urging the government to deal with a series of. attacks inspired by fake news on the messenger service.
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