it was right you know the intelligence is a difficult job and there's been a pattern over the you know people people act as if the reason why things are uncertain or working poorly is because of his in the white house right now and obviously the president's men style is a massive departure not just ideologically but just in sort of the nuts and bolts from what came before but you know this is the same intelligence community and the same united states government that completely wished on the arab spring and what that turned into this is the same sort of nexus of people whose job it is to see these kinds of things coming who blew it on isis there's sad to say you know a pattern of disconnect between expectation and reality in some of the most important parts of the world from a u.s. standpoint and so i think that there is warranted skepticism you know you don't need to go into conspiratorial territory to say like. an institution or arrangement like the five eyes sort of surveillance operation which is the u.s. u.k. canada. australia new zealand you know they pool intelligence they're supposed to have a better idea than anyone else in the world of what's going on and what is likely

to happen in the future and when that doesn't pan out there is a crisis of legitimacy and you know i hope at some point soon some folks in the i.c. are going to be able to to face up to that and to have the reckoning that needs to be had and to level in some way with the american people on it thank you both very much for the having you back those lows oscar winning actress mira sorvino will join us after the break stay right there.

it's hard to imagine the decades after the war a nazi don't it was still active and rich in the nineteen seventies kryten tell had as the chair of its board a man convicted of mass murder and slavery at ash was a german company developed thalidomide a drug that was promoted as completely safe even during pregnancy and it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby is anything but. you know she said is just cut short arms minix a little mind victims i have to this day received no compensation they never

apologized for the suffering that not only want the money i want the revenge. you know world of big parts of the logs and conspiracies it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be so. marker we need to stop slamming the door on the shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. go back to politicking on july twenty sixth the troubling ministration faces a court order deadline to reunite some twenty five hundred children with the

families they were separated from after crossing the united states along the southern border some questions remain as to whether the administration can meet that deadline still other questions exist for what happens after these immigrant families are brought back together activists including leadings and rational members and able celebrities and join the protests against the migrants treatment caught up in the trend in the film zero tolerance policy our next guest is one of those activists the oscar winning actress mira sorvino she serves as u.n. goodwill ambassador all to combat human trafficking and could be currently seeing in the new a.t.m. t.v. audience network series tongue bore some pleasure to welcome her to politicking last month you are a number of the celebrities went to the all paso juarez border protesting about you know good families being detained in several what was that experience like for you

. it was very intense it was extremely hot there it's like one hundred degrees in the shade at ten in the morning we weren't allowed any access to the camps but we could see them in the distance these white tents beyond barbed wire. and the thing that felt particularly bad to me is that we had no way of like sending our messages of solidarity to the kids inside we had been told that in the dark of night with all the lights turned off buses would come in bus loads of children would come in and they would turn off all the lights and you know some would say well that was for the child's anonymity but i think it was also the sort of the shame of it not wanting people to see what they were doing and i think that there have been a number of people who work in these facilities who have actually quit members key members of the department of homeland security have in recent days quit because of the barbarism of the zero tolerance policy and the seeming lack of an end in sight

seeming lack of a a humane solution to the situation. why they do this we could posit a lot of theories i think that there. i think this was a very cruel way to send a message to people who were hoping to immigrate legally or otherwise to this country to not come here if you were coming via the southern border we will take your children away if you come here and that is barbaric i mean there is no foundation for taking custody of children without proving unfitness of parents you know illegal immigration is a misdemeanor it's not a violent crime and there is no evidence of threat to these children so how are you taking these parent's rights away it's cruel and inhumane and when you hear about the treatment of the children in the detention centers how old are teenagers are trying to change the younger ones diapers and then they're being forbidden to hug

crying children children and there are lawsuits now five children are suing because they were drugged against their will givens you know. some kind of drugs to calm them down terrible treatment this is not who i thought america was and i know we have a long history of of social ills and of terrible practice such as slavery such as the genocide of the native american people but i thought we were beyond this sort of cruelty i really did and i'm i'm fighting it usually stirred up some controversy use some what was no had them in the united states is like three nazi germany. really you think that yes i'm not saying nazi germany were not at nazi germany yet but i see a populist wanna be dictator riling up our country with jingoistic slogans that a single out minorities as targets of. flaming the fans of fear of the

other so saying that our problems are because of mexican immigrants or our problems or all of this there are good people on both sides there is no good people on white supremacist militant groups you cannot say that their goal is to promote violence and hate the polls show the majority of americans blame the parents and not the trumpet administration for these separations i think it's a misunderstanding of what's happening and i think you know most most of these families i think the majority of them are asylum seekers and asylum is a legal right that our country gives people from other countries who are fleeing from danger and to want to improve the lot of your family to take them away from grave bodily danger is every parent's parata tive and i think about my forefathers who came over from italy who came over from other countries i'm part of talian part english german french well scottish you know

a bunch of things and they all came to this country because they were looking for a new and better life for their family free of the oppression that they experienced and sometimes violence in their home countries or poverty crushing poverty that limited their opportunity that's what has made america great traditionally make america great exploit all the wonderful talents of all the very people who come here you're a mom you're an activist you're quite a lady. what is your involvement in the me two movement. ok well first of all you know that the me too movement was founded in i believe it was two thousand and seven by tirana burke who is an incredible woman an incredible activist and it started among women in the african-american community and this fall when there was this outcry that i was a part of where we denounced harvey weinstein for his behavior and then other women came out and denounced other people in the industry. you know i believe it was alyssa milano who first started tweeting about hashtag me to if you are if you are

a victim of sexual violence or assault or misconduct or harassment and i started using hash tag and then discovered tirana burke discovered her movement was already in place and. you know i'm one of many people who just decided that it you know we need to speak out about this and. you know looking back over my life there have been many things that have occurred to me some in the business some pre the business some quite violent i was sexually assaulted when i was a teenager and this is something i don't talk about that much but it was on a beach on a vacation and i did go to the police and i did everything right and nothing happened and that was sort of a terrible lesson for me as a young woman feeling like no one cares and nothing's going to happen if you do try and follow official channels but i think that the more we've been speaking out. the more we realize that there is enormous strength in numbers and that this is

a worldwide movement of. outing the truth that this is a terrible pandemic sexual violence and harassment is a terrible pandemic that affects people all over the world in every walk of life every chander every sexual orientation every age old young middle age people children they're all subject to this kind of thing and they have been i believe since time immemorial so we're at the cusp of this moment where because people are open about it now we're removing the stigma of shame we're saying i know it was a really horrible experience for me our experiences and i don't really feel like talking about it but if we do talk about it all of a sudden the predation slows down all of a sudden people feel like they can't necessarily get away with it that just because you have power doesn't mean you can exploit people sexually and we're working on legislation now and we're working on working with you use to change attitudes really early so that we raise

a culture of young men that do not abuse and young other people who know what their rights are so they know when something bad starts to happen that they have a right to say no legally you can't actually do this to me but i am working on a slate of bills here in california with the house to take the lead. it's four of the strongest anti sexual harassment bills in the nation they've already passed the first house in california and this next month and a half is going to be crucial crucial for their passage and they deal with expanding the definition of who can be a harasser say like in hollywood for instance it doesn't just have to be the person who signs your paycheck it could be a director or producer a casting director and agent. but also an investor you know many many people across the country report that when they go and they have projects and this is not just acting projects it's any kind of project that often investors will try and have a quid pro quo deal that if i give you money for your project you have to have a sexual relationship with me which is insane that that is something that even

occurs to people to think that that is a valid way to conduct business that that you can get away with that when it's your . new series conduits on would lose their nights on a d.m.d. only network was the bone contour is based on three days of contour the famous robert redford movie also on the book six days conned or and it's a kind of retelling of the idea that one man knows this state secret and is being hunted and framed for a crime he did not commit is that we know william hurt is his uncle william hurt is a cia chief and he is trying to protect his nephew who was an i.t. worker who develops an algorithm to detect terrorist activity and that's being played by max irons who's jeremy aren't son actually he's a wonderful actor i play. i play a former cia agent who's come out of retirement to run a task force to try and find max irons because i believe he's guilty and i am

trying to catch up to him and i also happen to be william hurt's x. in it like we had an affair way back when i was his mentee and then he dumped me and exiled me to saudi arabia for five years so kind of ruined my career ruined my life and now i am and really i have so much feeling under the surface this character is not she she seems kind of cold and hard when you first meet her but she's actually so emotional she she has to batten it all down when she confronts him like she sees him and it's like sparks and inside she's still kind of in love with him as. he has a new relationship with gloom a world well here's how i see the relationship i mean this is all about the intelligence branch right it has nothing to do with any of the other branches of government but it shows how these institutions that we kind of have blind faith in we think ok our intelligence is doing their job they're keeping us safe actually can be warped by the agendas of

a few very strong people who have very strong wells and have very strong wishes to see certain things happen and in this story. certain individuals within the cia and other intelligence agencies are literally changing world history with dastardly effect for their own purposes so it just shows that we have to be ever vigilant because government is not this immutable like structure that can withstand anyone that people with a very strong will to achieve power or money or some kind of gemini. will distort the original purposes of those agencies and really destroy things and i think that's what we're seeing right now i think we are seeing our american democracy with our executive branch and to some extent congress is ignoring the principles on which the united states was built on through our constitution and turning in.