the fact is that they're making all these other economies look stupid. in the five hundred meters subway they. were around a few minutes later they began bombing the area and killing people dead killed fourteen enough down this town with children among the victims r.t. speaks to witnesses the scene. best to give journalists group red face shine a light on germany's arms trade claiming that not all is above board. and some. also coming up on the program of america on the west. the white helmets from syria

to jordan we look at the controversy behind the. forever you may be tuning in from around the world this hour welcome to our team international i mean you know neal our top story fourteen people including children have been killed in an earth strike in afghanistan in what was meant to be a military operation against the taliban it is not yet clear if it was carried out by afghan or u.s. or r.t. spoke to witnesses on the scene a warning some viewers may find the following images disturbing. the peace moves on because no one near one of them because no one would see them in the night but you're going to want to live here don't you we're going to hear the not. so we're not going to. officials say most of the dead are we. women and children the

u.s. claims it did conduct or strikes in the area insisting however there were no it was civilian casualties with more here sorties yesterday. after seventeen years the nile is propaganda by the enemy foreign troops are our friends and we don't target civilians u.s. forces did conduct strikes and on the ground assessments of those strikes reveals no indications they caused civilian casualties. taliban propaganda they claim with an on the ground assessment to prove it who can argue with that almost sounds like the results of a scientific experiment would have helped of course of that actually visited the place. the americans never visited this area and i'm witness to this national defense forces visited the area to check in first they wouldn't let a stink out the dead and injured. foreigners didn't visit this area.

they are lying in a delegation came here from the local governments and security officials ok so if you think the locals all of them at their word it's the afghan army that lied to the american troops it wasn't until the neighbors relatives erupted in outrage that authorities admitted to potential civilian deaths even the un is on the case so what actually happened. in the standing five hundred meters away they could easily see that civilians were around a few minutes later they began bombing the area and killing people. i saw the bombardment with my own eyes the americans first used artillery they bombarded my home and my aunt's home without giving us a chance to flee. then they used to pig and we felt like we were in hell all around

us was covered by gunpowder and dust my sister and all my family members were unconscious. on the first shell the area where there was an aircraft bombarded it with three bombs there are twelve and one wounded we dug out the victims from the rubble with one missing found the hand and shoulders and you other parts of one mark and buried him. the victims in the house owner's wife and daughter in law. three daughters four grandchildren two sons and more difficult to spin them as enemy fighters even with the pentagon's notorious guilty until proven innocent casualty counting mechanism and locals survivors don't have a lot of faith in justice. my expectations are that they will tell us it was all off in our scene so no proof that there were taliban fighters here this is not the

first time. they always kill civilians and never give us a chance to speak up so that they can say that they killed the taliban. no no no i've seen no one help the family i've lived here for a long time during care which time some now and they've never seen anyone given eight. province which is partly controlled by the taliban has a history of airstrikes go in a straight in two thousand and fifteen when the us had the doctors without borders ospel killing forty two the pentagon denied that at first until eventually barack obama himself had to apologize in the last year when the u.n. investigation found that the u.s. had killed ten civilians in a different air strike again denied that even offered a thorough investigation and again eventually ended up apologizing well in response to a request from r.t.

nato repeated its statement that no civilian casualties resulted from u.s. or strikes are being met they expect details from an afghan investigative team in the coming days and the war activist richard becker sees denial as become second nature for the american military. well i think that there's been hundreds and hundreds of such incidents in afghanistan every single time we really hear of one of these incidents like this this one it can do is we hear oh they were all terrorists first and then someone goes out media go out in the interview the villagers and they say no they were just villagers and then the military says well will conduct an investigation and then it's off into the ether and you know very little ever happens no matter how terrible the atrocities are but this pattern happens over and over again and no matter what kind of apologies or excuses they're given that it's repeated and it's repeated and repeated over and over again.

moving on germany is one of the world's largest arms manufacturers and exporters but investigative reporting group redfish have claimed that not all german arms are being sold legally here's part of their report which can be found in full on the red fish you tube page. in the open. mentioned. understands he starts to tell his son. as a. german he gets a lot of praise for its reasonable approach to politics but the german government has a dirty secret while germany prides itself on having some of the toughest arms export laws on the planet it's actually the fourth biggest arms exporter in the world

lawyer holder wrought by hour has taken one of the country's major on as manufacturers and one of the world's biggest small arms producers infamous heckler and koch to court they stand accused of illegally shipping weapons to conflicts a heckler and koch. trial. is not using that word too often it's historic it's a reading historic because it shows the i would call it blasphemy this is to cool off at records of the german government because the term and people the eagle on shipments they're accused of include sixteen batches of g thirty six assault rifles some of which ended up being used in a tragedy which shook the world. in two thousand and fourteen forty three students became collateral in mexico's bloody war on drugs when they were kidnapped by corrupt police who handed them over to the new tourist guerrero's who needles drug cartel at least several of the students were killed by the heckler and koch rifles

the company is incredibly hostile the media interest and public attention it didn't take long for the police to arrive to stop us from filming in the town's residents were particularly enthusiastic to speak to a seal we approached heckler and koch multiple times to discuss the allegations cited in this report unfortunately despite all our efforts were very happy to see us. like wow. you don't want to say something. to me to get an export license german arms manufacturers have to go through several government ministries who will check that the shipment destination isn't subject to any sort of ban by german law if it is in the arms company's application fails then they have another option they can appeal to the federal security council and here's where things get interesting this

council is made up of a handful of senior ministers who sit down with the german chancellor angela merkel in a secretive meeting where they review the application and decide whether to approve it or not the details of this meeting are never made public there is no media presence or independence group. well the heckler and car company in question say they are fully cooperating with the investigation while also actively country puting to clarify any incidents the defendant's lawyers are quoted as saying that the guns legally went to a well controlled police depo in mexico. staying in germany the country now ses it will resettle eight members of the country versus a rescue group the white helmets as well as their families after they were evacuated by israel from syria canada britain and france have also pledged to receive some of the four hundred twenty two helped out of the region we went

through this story earlier. well the praise that this massive relocation effort has received in the west from some of the most senior people in charge seems absolutely unanimous it is of course but barely anyone of those joining in the course has actually spoken to civilians on the ground and r.t. has done that and i'll tell you what there really is a rather strong contrast between what the big names are saying now and the things that we heard when we talked to these syrians that we've been able to get these brave people and their families out of syria after the extraordinary work they've done saving lives this video shows them helping the people but they only help the rebel fighters they really those close to them the last thing they cared about is civilians we complained for the ever creation of the white helmets and i were

grateful now that this was successful and that some of these people and their families can be accommodated here in germany where no one did anything out of humanitarian concerns it was all about money the join the what helmets and others only for money no one cared about the syrian people and what was the urgency behind this relocation well right now the syrian government troops are making some serious advances in the south of the country and that's where areas have long been held by the militants that are seeking to overthrow the assad government and i can tell you that there have already been attempts successful attempts i should say to move some of these rebels to the country's north where areas are held by some elements of the syrian opposition but now it seems it is turned to relocate the white house although there are being moved abroad and this is perhaps another sign that these people have long had some political connections with the west and after all it is

no secret that the group is being kept. afloat with cash from western countries and some cases that's taxpayers' money which means millions of dollars and they want how much have been working very hard on building and maintaining not just a positive image but an image of heroes their networking their p.r. efforts our ferd's to visualize their rescue activities are really impressive but all of this may backfire if you cheat all that was used in april by those trying desperately to prove that the assad government used chemicals against children and duma was. video but later the very same people who featured in it insisted that the entire rescue operation after the chemical attack this day. we were in the basement and then heard someone outside scream go to hospital they

were scared they started to pour water on me i don't know why they did this. you can easily think of other controversies for instance videos with jihad as holding executions and then suddenly out of nowhere men wearing white helmets emblems showing up or videos when people wearing white helmets were waving al qaida flags plus you can just take a look at some of the things our correspondent saw when he tried to trace the footsteps of the notorious group on the ground in syria here's what you'll find in one of the rooms of the former white helmets headquarters here in the aleppo bomb elements fiends as well as detonate does hundreds and hundreds of empty bullet casings this was by all appearances a weapons factory of all making. over here shrapnel. this is

what they put in bombs to cause horrendous casualties over there you'll see an industrial mix up again. what they used to mix chemicals and gunpowder so clearly there's a lot of inconsistency is here how these concerns been ignored by western governments all together no not in all cases you may remember when the white helmets won an oscar for a documentary about the things they were doing when that's when their leader was invited to the u.s. for the award ceremony but then he was banned from entering the country and that was something that led to a rather awkward situation at a u.s. state department briefing is the u.s. taxpayer supporting a group whose leader you have banned from coming to the states i mean if you have reason to revoke his visa that he could be a security threat or something like that why would again you just support but again

trying to separate this individual from their roots so they are saying that basically that he is suspect which is. well again i can't say this is a go against us against them and i'm sorry. so it might indeed get complicated when it comes to some elements of the white helmets and the security back home. russia's foreign ministry has issued a statement saying that the white helmets fleeing syria shows that they are hypocritical are not there just to tend to civilians the risk who is a middle east affairs expert believes not all the western states that initiated the evacuation will readily resettle the white helmets members this section reflects a level which the worst finds itself in its finds itself supporting terrorists who will the west to allow these people to settle. in these countries in the us i'm not sure i don't think that they will allow what i think that would really reveal the a wish to be true hypocritical but i think that in other countries yes they will be

allowed to settle down under this a label with these people are freedom fighters or involved in rescue operations i also would like to point to the following that yesterday here in beirut i had information i trued to do certain sources that amongst those who were activated did not just members of the so-called white helmet suppose in addition to the intelligence officials from nato or from some of the gulf arab countries in the gulf like you know saudi arabia etc. a proposed pluck to be added to a statute commemorating a famous merchant involved in the slave trade has the vide locals in the english city of bristol edward cults that is a prominent figure in the city's history for his philosophy however much of his wealth was acquired through the royal african company were known for having

a monopoly over the slave trade in the u.k. joining the late seventeenth century now residents say people need to be more aware of culture since passed on a second plaque mentioning his role in the slave trade is needed while to discuss the issue further we welcome veteran racial equality campaigner just a veteran in everything but age of course lee and from the english democrats longtime guest on the program stephen maurice good to have you both stephen can we start with you al additional pluck seems like a compromise good idea. well it depends what this place going to be saying because we have to look at the full history of the of the slave trade this was going on for thousands of years before europeans arrived africans were enslaved africans and selling them to the arabs way before we got there and it's actually quite unfair to judge the past by today's standards and today's models so for me it is part of the history but it really got to be sure in the full history of what was going on at

the time not just to be a scene to european issue against the slave trade when the slave trade was very predominant across the entire continents at that time so for me look at the history of what we've got to put into context of what was going on at the time all right let's put up to believe in times were very different weren't they when costin was alive his influence on bristol is on deniable the find in schools a hospital it gives the city a solid foundation to build on shouldn't he continue to be commemorated for that. now i think he should be traduced publicly i think steve is entirely wrong because he doesn't know his history fifty million africans were estimated to be sold in displaced that's not a few thousand you may be losers in a given war you are captured to slaves and sold to the arabs in the kind of situation he was talking about area yes slavery has gone on

a thousand years but he was on the industrial scale the african holocaust if i can call it not actually distinguishes the self why have we got the statue of the man who sold millions of africans into bondage and slavery rip topic and babies from their mother's breast separated families killed maimed and murdered millions of africans but he gave some money to charity so we should have a statue of him in our town square i've never desperately lewis will go away you. mean well now we've got your uncles also and you're going to make a million and find you a powerful rounds are you and what was delaying ameri. corps involved africans to the state that we are today you need to keep out of your own life it's a safe going underground well actually the fifty million people is a lot going on about simple thing one could go on for what we design and find it

that day historians of the time are all consensual around that figure so i think it is you need to get your facts straight more an advocate was on slate why anybody today you would call sherm to find the most ops. miniscule political party of the most extreme idiotic and we go ok i'll be like i want to i don't know if there is only hold on i'm going to hear it's me hold on hold on what even i want to put a point hold on really really i'll come back to you in a minute you're the only prophesied. and i want to put a point to you about this stuff man the hold on a second please idea about the african holocaust we were going to lock you lot about those issues we'll come back to you steve some have argued that the statue would be better in a museum where its historical context can be appreciated perhaps even dumb age are you open to that stephen. well the power of bristol into this path he always

develops and like to go but to the beginning it all depends what the plan is going to be saying because you've got to put things into context of what was happening at the time now you're the guest is this money is a racially. that's what. should be trying to put forward. stood forward rational in law you know trying to brown or would the view of white supremacist that's what caused the represents why should we have a statue of a white supremacist in any british pretty city ok let him let him answer. why we got stuck to it nelson mandela it was quite clearly a terrorist it wouldn't denounce violence i put i will show you something i will sometimes yellow out they should be pulled down i am world's only i was i was personally responsible a senior political advisor to the man for putting nelson mandela statue in

parliament square against the teeth of westminster hall a position his family had their blog he pull and you want to stand as you do it that's typically we have look at it not only agree nobody agrees nobody agrees that mandela was anything else and then and there i'm not going to sell it to terrorism lee klein or white like premise of soul race the state was not where the white boy would you want you to have family deserving of this stature in the help to be had it is clear for me fine pretty stampede yeah well we don't want we don't want the people who try to kill mandela to be dictating to all those about which that you should be aware the fact of the matter is is that britain he pulled who was going on lately and they. really killed all their friends the essence of black an exclusionary he killed anybody it was in opposition to him it was no which was why why why didn't you tell a ok let's just get an accurate subject at hand and both of you were talking about

a very cold thing we've got to end the. olson ok we're going to hold the family who is on a second i want to put a point i will then look at the yard of stephen in a minute ok the statute is part of bristol's history is it not should we just blanket and remove everything we don't like from our past if it starts with statues where does it end i'll tell you where it. rectifies the issue of the anomaly of british colonialism and its brutality for a modern multicultural britain right so it is in essence what bristol should do they should i buy a street of shade in colonial shade in which they put all their oxy facts in one place where they can be can text your lies i'm on display to the public about the horror of the holocaust we don't we don't want to put a statue up of hitler because he made trains run on time or he created the v.w. beetle and we shouldn't be imagining and celebrating culture ok it should be either

a bristol museum of shame which he can go in and all the order of colonial aspects and relics of the past can go in ok although you can have a street of shame but i don't way it should be contextualized as the most terrific period in bristol is this free. once again whatever argument is out has been lost because he's shown himself to be a hypocrite for a while and the fact is it is history who says he's there i go i'm going to pluck there then you have to make sure that you put it into context of what was happening around the world you cannot judge historical events by today's standards you have to look at what was going on. more blacks was enslaved by blacks than they were by the europeans so he needs to tell us all the laws why when i walk eagle why why r t why you subjecting me to the most ignorant and based racist. rewrite up in st a week early but obviously not. to name call the white man who's got no idea now we

all know you can wish to comment. is ok and yourself to believe let me put this point. you've heard a lot of reaction to to this statue issue haven't we in the us for instance are britons going to start campaigning against more statue that may offend just some people will churchill have to come down here to defend. churchill does he why do people from india and then you're afraid that it has to come to. your operating from the perspective of a white perspective which says oh if one person kills you know a single but we must object to this slavery was a five hundred year fifty million people exercise. enslavement and murder are you telling me that it was going on for. russia. only initially iman's rise sure what was going on with. the world be it.

look a lot of new there are years old are going to be for the. use i think others are going to show that you don't talk to each other and once we get you know we think all the time here am i have no wad yet this is like being subject to racist abuse ok let's see i don't know let's leave it to respond you made an accusation i just didn't respond you bring on t.v. . well what we've seen easily trying to koehler's all the names and show himself to be that sure where you see this. going on about carl and i would love to go to. each door is now trying to say that the thousand years where the black slave in black and sold into the didn't actually exist when he did and i did leave it out to be honest again i'm part of the. not is what i think ok hold on though if you were running right on time we've literally got fifteen seconds for each of you to sum up

your thoughts go ahead. well i'm just surprised that you would bring such a monumental idiot on the historical perspective of what you've done is ball an ideological right wing racist to come and debate the issue of slavery with me i want you to do me the courtesy as a conscious of bringing somebody who could have an intelligent all right that's your thoughts even if only seconds but few industry of sherry this guy steven kull before i was just talking a reasonable debate you should be. talking about into the historic going on at the time however what we've seen by lee is he loses the human because he starts to cope. i'm actually not going to judge a concert you are going so well it was going on and ok. ok i guess we have to end it there we've been speaking to a veteran racial equality campaigner. a member of the english democratic party

stephen morris thank you both for a spirited debate and i need to apologize to any of our viewers if you are offended by any of the comments in the debate thought is our news for now. ok let's just try and fit in perhaps one more story before we go to break a german football star of turkish descent has a ninety's retiring from the national team saying he feels unwanted in his own country that's after months of severe criticism initially triggered by one photo and ending in the player calling the german football association racist disrespectful. here if you chantelle

a national anthem cools add on he's president and lets himself before to graft in front of pictures of muslim conquerors someone that is not german and someone who does that should not play football for the german national team such a photograph has a symbolic value and it is definitely not what is needed at the moment it is clear when you play for germany you represent the country and the german values. for the future of also with a plan was a mistake it is still a mistake to say the reason as it also gave did not convince me it's only he speaks of respect but that raises the question of how it is respectful for the victims of policy has respect for journalists who are in prison because they have done their job.