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pop culture two thousand and eighteen will go down in the history books as one of the standout years in the new renaissance of black culture like a phoenix rising out of the ashes galvanized by the black lives matter movement black artists entertainers and political figures have been dominating the headlines and box offices like no other time before starting with the global box office supernova that was black panther even before its release last february the growing buzz around the film was deafening featuring that rarest of rare and hollywood a major studio film made with a predominantly black cast and crew black panther broke down barriers and defeated expectations delivering a hero's journey to a marginalized movie going audience so often resigned to seeing the characters that look like them cast as the sidekick or comic relief to the white character in the lead role but it wasn't just the movie screens that were showcasing the new black renaissance music sod's revolutions as well with the continued rise of artists like
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carty b. and childish gambino challenging the narrative and party b. we saw a powerful black woman who wasn't beyond say revolutionize the hip hop game and once again proved that talent drive and fearlessness can indeed overcome the patriarchy that dominates the rap game and well carty b. was standing tall dominating the charts over the corporate song birds like taylor swift a shot of truth like a diamond bullet between the eyes was delivered by actor and rapper donald driver donald glover aka childish gambino whose song and music video this is america perfectly encapsulated the black experience in these united states of america in the early twenty first century so today we celebrate this new renaissance of our song and film as we start watching the hawks.
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but like you i got. this. is exactly. an epic roar echo throughout hollywood this weekend hawk watchers has the marvel universe superhero black panther was finally unleashed in theaters here in the united states and around the world and the benchmark of success in a capitalistic culture is money then without a shadow of a doubt black panther is in just four days of release a smashing success by pulling in a record breaking two hundred thirty five million dollar opening weekend at the box office black panther shatter not only box office records alon held movie industry beliefs and a racist barrier is about the amount of green a film of color can bring in especially one featuring a black superhero fighting for the safety of his powerful and technologically advanced african home country not exactly hollywood storytelling is bread and
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butter to say the least but for many black men women and children both here in the u.s. and around the world even before the film was released the success of black panther was about more than just being another hollywood hit and joining us to discuss black panthers true success is georgetown university professor chris chambers a few wow the you tube does a big price that's a big number oh it is lows away every every you know and it and you there weren't any rappers in the movie right there weren't any bizarre stereotypes in the movie there were some hard questions and issues to debate in the movie all the things that you know go counterintuitive to what hollywood just over and over again in all the years leading up so let me ask you you know why why do you believe you know why is black proud of their success this week and so much bigger than just dollar numbers like what actually was the success it's a perfect storm i mean we have we have. the current cultural and social and
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political climate that really where i think african americans needed this kind of a pick me up but black people alone can't create these kind of domestic numbers and you're going to see that repeated i mean this is a character that was invented by white people in the sixty's by stan lee but i think the time is now for for for this kind of a of a movie that be transformative in a lot of people who movies for being transformative but if you look at the negative side look at birth of a nation look at. you know gone with the wind i mean they were culturally transformative in a negative way and colored the way we think of american history will you know a movie can do that in a positive way and i think when you have this cast this kind of writing you know it can transform people that's for that's for true do you think this is step one of sort of pushing that that idea which is an old held belief years and years in
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hollywood i can tell you the ten plus years i spent in hollywood there was one thing for certain is that any white male executive which for most of them will tell you. black movies don't make money over and over and over again get out and that they just they don't make any money overseas they just do domestically and it's fine so they're not a good investment is this sort of that proof and sort of questioning that you know we had oscar so way and that you know moonlight when you know the success of get out now black panther do you think that this is like that first proving ground for really i think we've turned a corner because this has a broad appeal and it's a piece of a larger marvel universe so you know it's a good litmus test to overseas because if it goes to a place like china and the chinese say well we don't want to see it then they have to we've pretty much laid bare where they're coming from but i don't think that's going to happen i think that because it's a part of a larger marvel universe and because the writing. the issues you know that they're
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not being hit the face with issues it's their butt and you can kind of roman aid over it but if you can you can do it in the course of this like amazing ride i think it's going to turn the corner it's going to blow away a lot of people and we're seeing this now i mean i've never heard of hollywood exact say oh well gosh you know maybe we need to put a panther movie in between if you know the city wars which are where they are not going to do that but i mean now they see you know i hope that they did kill him off of the if in a few wars but you know now it we don't want to be here but you know it you know that's going to be that's and that's going to be a screaming or it will look if they can put you know christopher plummer you know into ridley scott right here right behind her you know remain a slayer here yeah you know what's interesting too is without giving away specifics because we believe that we want to protect spoilers here you know we won't about you know the government what they do but. what about the representation of of you
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know the character of black panther you know the home country of what condon when the villain was eric kill monger what made that so game changing and groundbreaking for this type of movie like what what in that representation really jumped out well you know if you look at that stories that resonate if you look at the batman origin story of how his parents were killed or even superman coming here i mean you had these people trying to make a child and kill monger into like martin luther king and malcolm x. and which is which is stupid there's no there's no comparison there are contrast and kill monger is a a psychopathic murderer but he had this the in the movie you're asked to say well how did he get that way we're we're in a because when i used to read black panther when i was younger i'd say how could this country that had this gift of the you know the vibranium you know you know meteorite how could they sit back and watch so many of their brothers and sisters and slaved. for
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a thousand years i'm going to sit there and watch you know european powers come in and colonize and tear apart the continent which was which was a viable continent before you know colonialism a lot of people think the whole there was a tarzan movie before then and it wasn't know it and i used to sit there and think well how how would they treat that and ryan coogler in this movie addresses those issues and makes you debated but he doesn't sit there and say well you know kill monger is a hero for saying i want to help all my oppressed people that he gets comes out and says the guy's a maniac but how did he become a maniac and i think that's a very compelling story there's a very compelling story most definitely there's a feminism aspect to it to what you do i'm sure was a. favorite of the so right about so that was my big thing about this movie is that i tried to stay away from the marketing as much as possible i know what i know about the comic from before and start to like us and keeping myself open to the story and what i what i've seen come out and what what finally sort of struck me
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the most was that the women these are so these are amazing women and i think even beyond what was you know wonder woman dead you know for this idea of strong women this is huge an intersection feminism kind of way these are strong black women they had up armies they're not sitting there arguing over a man they're not you know fighting with each other they're fierce and bald black beautiful and they are just. that way there isn't see you know what you're talking about his younger sister who's in time or the door of the luxury who are his his bodyguards i mean that's something that you didn't even see in the comics now there's this core of female bodyguards that were surrounded him all the time and and quite frankly i mean you know when women in general look at this i mean these are the people that when this disruptive force comes in to tear this kingdom apart these women are the ones who say no we see. and for the rule of law we're not going
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to just go for whoever is popular we're you know we have you know we're going to stand up for what's right and that's a very strong statement it is it is and i think it was interesting because i must historically i think that black women are often forgotten sometimes in the historical aspect of say the civil rights movement where you have young malcolm x. and that i think sometimes the women don't get noticed for that and i think this was that moment when you realize like that was such a big part of that story was it was it was it was you know they were the ones who were concerned with the rule of law and what was right and what was just you know what did you you know you said it kind of this is like was it was this something that was like the perfect storm or is this you know or is this something that really does have legs i think that's the most important thing i think it does this i mean i think it's a perfect storm in terms of the hype of the build up but i mean but marvel and you know we still have to remember this is this is a money making exercise this is this is this is walt disney and horrible and i
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think that they probably were savvy enough to see that now was the time to introduce this character. break him out from from the winter soldier movie which is where you first see him and you know with the you know i think not that they were breaking him out at this time but more like oh great you know we're going to break him out and all the all the stars are in alignment we're going to make money money money money money and look like good guys doing which in a capitalistic system is a tough thing to do tough it is tough i mean the biggest thing for me is always like you know how much did it mean to the kids who go see exupery movies at the end of their for their ultimately for kids at the end always is this is a minnow ever and yeah and i think it's a beautiful thing to see whether it be wonder woman last summer or black panther this were now you suddenly have representation for little girls you know little you know you know black men and women things like that we can look up and say oh i haven't i have a. superhero now who is not white who does not looks like somebody else who
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actually looks like then i can jump up and fall i mean it's for for women of any color children of any color and even you know ryan coogler wrote into this with kill monger even urban youth because you know this this kid became who he was because of the forces that you know there are still tearing up urban youth so i mean some kids can watch this and say you know i can tear up i can take the message that he's trying to give away from the lunacy and i don't have to be like that i can i can i can attach myself to the positive message without the anger and the destruction and i think that even that will help some kids are watching this so well there's tons of sequels and i can't wait to see what these what that you know kind of filmmaking team doesn't that show you clearly kugler and jordan michael b. jordan are a tandem of actors all right after that we haven't seen in a long time you know where here's these two guys getting better and better with each so it felt if you know well it's monday nerd out yeah well you know
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a lot of good you know if we make a shift from the creator of the real phrase i will go running through the game thank you chris chambers always a pleasure that they don't take yourself and i will be back with a sequel. as we're going to read clark watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered on facebook and twitter see our poll shows at r t v dot com coming up we continue our episode on the new black renaissance taking place here in the united states as we talk the rise of hip hop artist party b. and the message childish gambino is this is america with author and educator do you want to stay tuned to watch the.
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welcome back and now we present our discussion with author and speaker do you want guns and how respectability race and politics fit into the rise of hip hop artists like carney took a lesson i want to start and this is interesting story that came out of like the kind of rise of carter i never thought i'd be talking about how to be white but the rise of the you know this this woman and her talent and all that is a fast six i was especially when you see culture reacting to it that's what really got me and one of those things was anti-pornography group the national center on sexual exploitation basically kind of browbeating household wal-mart the retailer so what they did they remove the cosmopolitan cover that she was on and you know from stands at the front of the store they were put in the back citing them as you know sexually exploitive influences but what's interesting to me is the you know
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they didn't seem to care about the cosmos cover had like you know this is a star mandy moore or big bang theory is kelly kuko showing more skin than carty be did and you know and that is ridiculous to me so deep rap and hip hop always been that like you know something scary to white america but yet they buy it and eat it up all the time. you know and the whole fear is what it's going to turn like the nice white kids in america in the late you know gangsters or some horrible terrible cliche or you know. where does that come from and what effect does that actually have in the black community when you see this kind of reaction so the funny thing for me is why would you get excited about moving someone from you know a wal-mart right but no one is excited about moving thomas jefferson off of money and i think you know i like to hear more of a negative impact on people but you know i think anyone who is anti of party b. is. that's the definition of being
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a merit to this american story this is what this country promotes a person from the bottom doing what it takes to get to the top as she did in the legal way she used the tools that was a from her that she's creating music that are committed that's connecting people from all over the world so people who just don't understand i'm in a coma don't. but it was so strange to me because you did see this thing where i'm looking at you know even if you know the outlets that are usually very pro woman or you know things like the route i'm seeing like carnie vs trashing if you think you like or you're trash too and i'm like yeah and like i was someone who was always called white trash growing up because you come for the wrong side of the tracks there's this idea that oh you're well spoken even though you came from the country came from a thing and then i found that that is one thing that intersects with our experience is that if you come from the wrong place or you're not you know you're not classy enough and one of those things i noticed was in party g q interview. where and they
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of course signed a female writer to do this but the female writer spent the first three paragraphs. just in specific detail about bodies. then she this writer lets everyone know that to be actually knows a lot about presidents in american history and actually knew something about the social security system that the writer didn't which is fascinating oh she was fastened more need only words as person and the for the only reaction the next sentence after this you know did you know the writer admits i didn't know that that's her so security came from f.d.r. and the first thing she talks about as she was she goes on to say her baby doll features big eyes round face minimal chen the minute this white girl saw this girl knew more than she did about history and it seems so crazy. is this this is part of that sort of fetishization of black women. by both men and women in this fetish
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there's ation and this idea that oh my gosh she can read she knows he knows the words work and. what they drive me crazy and i have how how do we fix that how do we deal with it is this unusual was even more scary is that i read the woman's biracial grew up in a black neighborhood so she's influenced by black culture the bigger problem is that you can be a person who looks black and identifies as black but still subscribe to the same. the same ideas that suppress black people who don't have the luxury of coming from the black elite that's the problem if i can sit down with them people look at me like i'm crazy but if i could sit down with the i would straight up see cody be to me is as important as billie holiday only you know someone she is telling stories that is getting a whole lot of people excited and having fun and delivering truisms there are some best and most celebrated artists have done in the words of right wing culture
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warrior andrew breitbart politics is downstream from culture the phrase meant to describe why conservatives were perennially getting crushed in the culture war by ignoring the importance of the media pop culture is growing more and more accurate every year with online platforms allowing art music and pithy means to spread across the country like wildfire and influence the nation's narrative and. imaginal way. redhat and the ensuing debate fuels the nation's social media rankings and news cable shows alike and now artist onil glover delivered a somewhat more philosophically charged pop culture critique of society's race and gun violence issues from his alter ego childish gambino with many americans debating the music videos underlying message and symbolism author and educator d. walk ins joins us to weigh in on the conversation d. always a pleasure to have you on first i just go to go this is a credible music video. well i mean not only on like the technical level of just
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pure filmmaking but just. the metaphors of the issues raised and all that so i want to start and ask you you know nobody is quite on the same page because it raises so many issues and as somebody brilliant visuals and a lot of metaphor you know. in this is america what did you take away from it what it what did you have for seeing it what did you walk away from viewing the video and say yourself i felt like after watching the video you know. divorced what we try to do in media we see the big stories that everyone wants us to talk about trump this trump trump did this trump did this so what right what about the everyday people who are suffering who's going to tell their stories who's going to care about them who's going to love them and he showed us how you can just dangle something flashy in wow in front of people who are interesting and
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will totally turn a blind eye to the things that we should be looking at and i think i think it was brilliant. you know makes me excited for our interview it is going to be an artist yet when you watch people with. their reactions and you're seeing some other reactions from people. you know from piers morgan who you know was scared and alex down thinks it's. legit so they don't get it though that there's not enough time to this country this country is structure for piers morgan and alex jones to win they don't worry about the same things that a person with black skin or a one woman is going to worry about they just don't know but i think the hard part is in them being so uncomfortable because it works when i see that when they're out when those people are scared of my good you should think about so they're one of the things and that reaction it didn't really fall neatly into the category as a sort of a. and politics some people you thought might be
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a little put by it weren't new yorkers during st felix noted that quote a lot of black people hate it and the music video forces us to relive countless traumas before immediately forcing them to then dance what is your reaction to that criticism of covers approach to getting us all to talk about these issues. is it insensitive or needlessly overly sensitive is there this idea where that trauma is their thing where you re traumatizing people in trying to tell the story or at the end of the day i don't even know when you get that quote a lot of black people hated it who are these people you know you are a lot of people hate everything just like a lot of people love everything so that's not really like a fair thing and even that type of thinking is what's wrong with this country today the idea of you can just put all of these different types of black people in a box think that they are all of the black people spoken into like you
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a lot of them like you you're not going to you're not really going to say that about any other race you're not going to see you know oh yeah you know a lot a lot of curious you know you're not going to say that what you're going to do to black people so that person is proud instantly problematic and the reason why we need videos like this i mean and when you look at like sort of things a glove or was doing in the video it's really incredible i mean you know because like i said everyone can kind of watch it and see different things that suddenly speaks to them and that's the strength the powerful are you know when i saw the video and saw how he was moving the facial you know what he was the faces he was making things like out of woe you know that reminds me a lot of like the jim crow era you know when i was like where alex jones to do i saw a minstrel just meant that it was three letter layer. when i look at it's joe. because he screams and he turns really is about the pop like he's he wants to be ric flair or something you know just. like summarize this this whole thing what donald glover
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did is what kanye west is trying to do here is speaking directly to the people and the issues in a way that's brilliant and transformative he's been with illusions you know people say oh my god he shot the people require deliberate fellowship with those people before he murdered them in cold blood before those officers picked him up what i consider to be like a silent you know thank you they put in a burka you know this is america this is what happens here and it's alex jones piers webb it guys today acknowledged the stuff the things that they say it could never hole in the way i'm not as our show for you today remember everyone in this world we are not told we are loved and not so i tell you all i love you tyrrell but for that topical alex keep on watching those hawks and have a great day and night. for
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