the nefarious russians and the the family is called by graham lang how to get in there with you there was some hall as. well listen to me let me say yeah well it was all not yesterday that by fifty four to forty one percent americans across the board think that donald trump is not standing up for u.s. interests most people in the united states think that putin has the goods some dirt on trump so it's not just me this is what the public thinks look we live in an era right now where we love to have me take something where you have a legitimate right to be upset but if you can really turn it up if you could. scream if you can demanded require a screaming room and a petting dog a vivid how lead and show this absolute out of control histrionics maybe somebody

will pick up on that so i think that there are segments of this country that used to be the majority that see what they feel was their country slipping away from them the country you know within a few decades is going to be majority nonwhite and i do think that people here more so than was true ten or twenty years ago read and talk to and watch on television points of view that are just like they're so when they are exposed to something that's different they take offense because they think everybody that they deal with things like they do and when they hear something that's different it puts them off do we have to remind folks what this country was like in the fifty's with lynchings with separate bathrooms with african-americans who couldn't even sit at a lunch counter civil rights violations this is peaches and grain compared to what

this country sad to say was in the past so if you think things are worse now than it was fifty years ago sixty years ago you need to review your history. well again i don't disagree i don't i don't compare people taking offense. flight today to lynching why do people feel slighted by something that maybe they would have let go. you know i think that there is again so much awareness in a way that today than there was the there used to be decades ago when we didn't have the mass media people can kind of aggregate to themselves and basically decide well we're right and that person who acted in a way that we don't approve of is wrong and that somehow or other that if uses people's thinking there is a heightened everything today not to not to say that people don't have a right in many cases to be upset but everything is overdone because you're not going to get media attention if you act reasonably and proportionately.

now in other news tonight u.s. trade was a high on the agenda of this year's tenth anniversary prick summit russian president vladimir putin has delivered his speech that the annual gathering of the world's top emerging economies comprising of russia brazil india china and also south africa as you can see ton of his following the summit in johannesburg. we're kind of midway through the main day of the summit that is of course today the leaders of the world's leading developing economies have signed already a joint declaration of the summit and now well basically the talks between them is in full swing now the trade wars are definitely in focus here in johannesburg us rule breaks were created to with the idea of being a counterbalance to traditional powerhouses economic powerhouses mainly the united states now trump's policy on trade has been very offensive he's been imposing the

tariffs and threatening with tariffs and he has become sort of a tool a diplomatic tool in his hands so now we've already seen brics nations kind of bonding even closer together in the face of this new challenge that they're facing and the experts that we've talked to that i've talked to at the summit at this point as a smaller market we thought we started to actually be the most hurt in these trade wars and it's actually quite put an end that we consider what what will the brics become we have had moments where the united states was the protection of multilateralism and now it's actually the countries that have emerged protecting a rules based international order and there has been a bit of a figment of cooperation between the brics countries and the w t o and this is a an opportune moment for the pics countries to actually come together put their heads together and we strategic about how they will actually corporates in the w.t.r. i do expect a bit of coordination with just not the countries but in expansion the small economies if you look at our portfolio of businesses and we took

a step back and we actually found out that ninety percent of our revenue comes from brics countries sort of more unilateral as a peer in particular from from the united states i think it brings together of these great growth nations and i think together we can achieve so much so here in south africa it's business and politics going together hand in hand somewhat a decade ago skeptics were looking at the brakes and they couldn't really pinpoint the purpose of the book because they viewed the you know. i don't states as the sort of a nation that would bring smaller economies together well now what is happening the aggressive stance towards prayed in washington is scaring and is causing concern among businesses and among emerging markets and so why running clean now they turn towards breaks. down if they in johannesburg he won't say we'll be back after this break. the pleasures fuzzes guaranteed returns that is being abused by the crooks there is

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welcome back now the british home secretary has commissioned a study into the profiles of child abuse is among the characteristics to be considered is the country of origin of the perpetrators my fischer's have been working with investigating officers in relevant cases to establish the particular characteristics and contexts associated with this type of offending we're looking at what this data set can tell us about characteristics of offenders victims and the way the context of abuse all of which have a critical bearing on the effect of targeting of prevention activity. child grooming scandals that are a topic that have attracted a great deal of emotion controversy and debates in the u.k. public and media as well rather on rossdale bristol peterborough the list is

endless and will be familiar to many here in the u.k. this is the first time though that many would say a government in office indeed the home secretary in office has ordered an investigation specifically into the ethnicity the racial background of both the victims and the perpetrators involved in these crimes it's not the first time investigations of happened it's not the first time the issue's been raised just last year in fact a labor m.p. and former minister sarah champion wrote an article in a paper in which she unequivocally condemned pakistani grooming gangs and said the issue must be debated openly and honestly the backlash she received the criticism she received from many quarters in the end caused her to resign from her position and indeed received death threats after which she had to receive extra police protection what strikes me about this whole debate is that we've reached a point in this country and possibly in the west where we can't really talk in a relaxed way about race so this would write something which a lot of people would say is

a statement of the bleeding obvious and ends up losing the job now the media and public outcry has stemmed from the understanding that a sense of missed place political correctness of fear of offending of racial backlash of stoking ethnic and community tensions had previously prevented law enforcement social services and local government from taking the necessary action to stop and prevent these horrific crimes i think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community bode if i may put it like that this has also come from the horse's mouth just quite a number of years ago there was a police report released under the freedom of information act in which the police themselves had said often there was a very lucky that it's a hesitancy to take the necessary action because precisely of the stuff. of racial or ethnic tensions over the years the discussion about the racial ethnic background of perpetrators and victims of these crimes and that specific link has been quite

to boom it's been discussed with a great hesitancy or been confined perhaps to the margins of the political spectrum now though with the home secretary's investigation given of course sergeant javal himself has pakistani roots that discussion seems to be growing more mainstream. ok let's get the thoughts now of david gergen he's new keep education spokes person in great britain it's good to have you on david you're a welcome some people those who are against this move are calling it unfair and racist can you understand their concerns. no i can understand their concerns this is something that has shaken this country to the core we have wonderful town rather room where there were fourteen hundred girls mostly white girls who have been systematically groomed picked out and raped this is the most horrendous kind of criminal activity and it's not just confined to that one town it's going on all over the country as you said in your opening sequence this is something that

needs to be dealt with and it needs to be dealt with with brutal honesty it's good that saudi job it has commissioned this report but honestly this is something that should have happened twenty years ago because it's been going on for at least twenty years people have known about it in various arms of the state it's being covered up but more importantly people have been afraid to talk about it because of the culture of political correctness and the adherence to multiculturalism which in this particular case clearly has not worked you know there have been studies done before there's been a whole book written on it which is called easy meat by peter mclaughlin that was written four years ago there was the study came out earlier this year by the quilliam foundation they said pretty much the same things i imagine that the conclusions of the jobs report would say the same thing that most of the people

involved in this are pakistani muslim men seventy percent of can i usual that have up for you yes go ahead david you did one of the the argument here is that if you name someone's ethnicity in cases like this they need entire ethnic group will get tired which is unfair that's the fear of what will happen that will be the perception in society if you stop linking ethnicity to particular crimes. what we need to make clear of course that it is not the whole group no one is saying it's the whole group and you have to put that very very clearly because you know there are people obviously saudi job it is a pakistani origin man himself he is instigating the report you have the quilliam foundation majeed towards who is on the on one end of the muslim community if you like a very different to the other end of the muslim community which has people who are carrying out these crimes but my concern is justice my concern is making sure that

no more girls are right that should be at the forefront of everyone's minds and everyone's aims and if that means we have to be politically incorrect then so be it and it's about time that we were a year ago dave the n.p.a. sarah champion we mentioned in the report raised the same issue and received a huge amount of backlash but now we have the home secretary doing it himself what's the what how do you anticipate the reception hair have things changed over the last year why is he deciding to do this now. well i mean we heard the other part of the story here was that i think it was yesterday it was reported that sarah champion herself the m.p. for raw the room where this has been going on had been receiving death threats and threats of violence against her in the years since she actually said this i mean we great courage and honesty and the statement from today seems like

a reaction to that news there's more to it than that but the vast majority of the country hates what is going on and hate the culture of silence which is driven by political correctness in this country is drenched in political correctness from top to bottom it creates a culture of fear which allows these horrible crimes to go on it's time for simple honesty and it's time for justice i don't care about offending a small part of a small community if we can stop girls from being raped that's what's happening and not just rate gang rape if you read easy meat which was actually borrowed from the phrase junk straw who used to be the m.p. from blackburn use that phrase and it was borrowed in the book actually talks about some of the girls trying to get out of this life of pimping that they got into and

one girl's tongue was nailed to the desk because she threatened to go to the police horrific and talk about it it's horrific it's not we're not it's a bit and i'm sure nobody would disagree with the horror of the crime that you described there people are worried though that particularly when these sort of crimes are reported in the media the headline will be about the ethnicity and it could be many new in seize on many factors involved in that crime and that won't necessarily get the same attention and people will draw a direct correlation with ethnicity i know you said before it's very important to make sure people know the kaviak but how easy will that be to report. well a reporter can say whatever they want and i'm sure that they will say that and i'm sure everyone has common sense to realize that you know.