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in america acts on the military industrial complex these are the enemies of america are tired government is bought it's legal bribery and they steal and cheat right out in the open americans car gobbling this up it's amazing you know we used to be afraid of russia because they had a communist ideology they're just kind of pressing that button on americans because we've been conditioned to be afraid of russia and their communism even though that our economy is that in war this will all be cleared up after the election whichever side loses can blame russia for it and after all it worked in the twenty sixteen presidential election for hillary clinton there is no reason that donald trump can't use it to his advantage caleb oppen r. t. washington d.c. . well your i os legal and media analyst lionel and democratic political consultant richard goodstein wannabe issue of russian meddling is proving so divisive liberal politicians frequently blame russia for various things as well if you believe that's the real cause of the problems in the u.s.
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still there are other divisions what do you think. i don't think people are blaming russia for anything that happens in the united states other than what our intelligence community concluded unanimously which with the with the to the russians attacked the united states to mock or see in the way that they. meddled frankly makes it look kind of pity. kind of really kind of piddly. it's meddling in the way that osama bin laden meddled with the world trade center that was an attack dick cheney. are a fan of generally our dad said that what our obligations did was an act leak was of war against united states so so again but i think we should segment that out i think i think what happened i'd states whether it's racial bias or you know in inequality in terms of incomes that's not because of anybody from russia doing that are little holidays that we're creating ourselves you didn't let me down. yet and i
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have parked i am my friend comparing osama bin ladin where the plants are russians buying facebook ads which brought down the entire election not because your gal the other than mad fashion east lost a rigged election. but because the nefarious russians and the lead is this necessary as cabal did cram lang how to get in there with you there was some hall. well listen to me let me say yeah there was all you know yesterday that by fifty four to forty one percent americans across the board think that donald trump is not standing up for u.s. interests most people in the united states think that putin has the good some dirt on trump so it's not just me this is what the public thinks look we live in an era
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right now where we love to. out me take something where you have a legitimate right to be upset but if you can really turn it up if you can. scream if you can demand and require a screaming room and a petting god gave you good how lead and show this absolute out of control histrionics maybe somebody will pick up on that so i think that there are segments of this country that used to be the majority that see what they feel was their country slipping away from them the country you know within a few decades is going to be majority nonwhite and i do think that people here more so than was true ten or twenty years ago read and talk to and watch on television points of view that are just like they're so when they are exposed to something that's different they take offense because they think everybody that they deal with
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things like they do and when they hear something that's different it puts them off do we have to remind folks what this country was like in the fifty's with the lynchings with separate bathrooms with african-americans who couldn't even sit in a line church counter civil rights violations this is peaches and grain compared to what this country sad to say was in the past so if you think things are worse now than it was fifty years ago sixty years ago you need to review your history well again i don't disagree i don't i don't compare people taking offense at flight today to lynchings why do people feel slighted by something that maybe they would have let go. you know i think that there is again so much awareness in a way that today than there was the there used to be decades ago when we didn't
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have the mass media. people can kind of aggregate to themselves and basically decide well we're right and that person who acted in a way that we don't approve of is wrong and that somehow or other that if uses people's thinking there is a heightened everything today not to not to say that people don't have a right in many cases to be upset but everything is overdone because you're not going to get media attention if you act reasonably and proportionately. the leaders of the five bricks emerging economies of preserve russia india china and south africa are holding a summit in johannesburg artie's a ghost town of reports from day one. now thursday the main day of the bric summit was packed with action and of course to an extent you can use the word action in regard to a political summit well russia's president vladimir putin arriving early in the morning he kicked off his streak of face to face conversations with the south
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african president now that's way late into the night followed by a face to face with the chinese with his chinese counterparts and then all of that wrapped up with a tete a tete with india's prime minister now in between all of those talks and russia's president vladimir putin met with the leaders of other countries who are not part of the brics bloc among those was the argentinean leader and the turkish president recipe and putin's meeting with erdogan kind a hinted at the potential bromance the two leaders could be having. to do. such. kind of. to. look good for those who. remain in the union. so. we're live in
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special times and with donald trump and the white house being so keen on trade wars all of that of course couldn't go unnoticed here that's was the focus and i talked about this to quite an extent with ministers and experts who attended the summit the leaders of bricks are very clear that we will not to be in position to tolerate what is trade protectionism like we're seeing from the u.s. but also we're also looking at alternatives to say that i mean you have brics which is a conflagration almost forty percent of the world's population it's a huge play and it's look at how politics has changed in the states they want to make sure. that. product somebody fractured in america for americans and not getting goods manufactured outside the united states and brought back again exotic prices back to the united states the emerging markets are starting to see the
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dangers of. uni lotteries collateral damage that we are suffering is tried was. not the cause of everybody's problems but we're all being affected so we're not very happy about it we're also not very happy about what we see as. the intended a dissertation which is a reeky to multilateralism in favor of. favor of that this is a signal that we need to strengthen. as brics huge number of areas so with all the damage that right now america's trade policies are dealing apparently to the economies of the breaks nations well every cloud has a silver lining you know and here it is the fact that the brics nations are now encouraged to work closer with each other also similar taney asli encouraging other nations perhaps emerging economies to work with the brakes and not with the states
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don of reporting from johannesburg from south africa. well the five leaders gathered for a group fair say were not everything went to plan. now facebook shares plummeted by nineteen percent on thursday wiping one hundred billion dollars off the company's value that's all after an earnings report showed a store in user base in north america and a decline in european uses following a series of scandals.
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or twitch a stock price has also taken a hit following claims of political bias president trump used twitter to accuse the platform of shadow banning prominent republicans he warned we will look into this discriminatory and illegal practice while shout about a story broke back in february when conservative users noticed a substantial loss of followers on twitter the company claimed it was due to a crackdown on vaults but on wednesday a vice news report described how the company has restricted the visibility of republicans these include the party chairman and several members of congress.
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well to discuss this further we can cross live now to independent journalist david lindorff david thanks very much for joining us let's have a look then at the bright facebook stock price that's punished after a company report showed its user base of potholed in north america and shrunk by three million in europe so what's behind all this well i think we're finding that the these pioneer firms facebook and twitter are you know i think part of the problem is that they have remained fairly technologically where they were when they started and so a lot of the people that really use social media which would be your sort of millennial group you know people in their twenty's and thirty's and even teens are . have lost interest in facebook and twitter they don't use them they're more into instagram and newer forms even than instagram well it's also look at the political
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issues here as we said before the conservatives have accused facebook of left wing bias means many trees that claim no it's ridiculous think. there's also been cracking down on. left wing and alternative media something i'm familiar with it's hard to get. to get you know stories on the left any kind of traction. on facebook and also on google google google downgrades a lot of say that they consider to be. not reliable except not reliable to them means not in the mainstream well let's look at the financial implications i mean twitter shows they fell three percent off to that report that the company is restricting the visibility of republican politicians i mean do you think these practices from what you said before a widespread among the tech giants at but if so what's actually behind that. well
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to the extent that they're using ai it's definitely a threat to two independent media. in terms of goal bias. you know it's a dangerous game if they are playing that to start for them to start being the arbiters of what is acceptable political discourse i think in some cases what they're doing is they're cracking down on things that are vs hate speech or you know threats some of your. groups for example they are i think worried about propagating and promoting. that hurts their you know their image with the larger population but i think the big danger is this is a i kind of filtering which which google is doing a lot of and wants to do more of where you know with the algorithm itself can become biased in terms of what they. put in and tell it to to
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filter out and this also paul is saying before the issue of the scandals as well is that i mean facebook admitted that up to eighty seven million users were exposed in the came which analytical data mining scandal i mean how does this change the user's perceptions of the company and also social media in general well i think facebook made a big mistake because originally they said it's not an issue you know and then it turned out that it could have been an issue on the margins because some of the elections were so close in some states you know ten thousand twenty thousand thirty thousand votes decided. and states like mine here in pennsylvania so you could credibly make a case that you know some kind of you know effort to put out fake stories that would really charge people up to go out and vote one way or another
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could have changed the course of how that particular state went. i kind of think it's not true though i think that you know that in the case of the presidential election the. blame was with the democrats are putting up a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign and that never should have been disclosed as it was and of course as we know that when i was donald trump and he uses twitter as we know but he's also used in this case to complain about twitter's shadow banning i mean do you expect some kind of action from the trumpet ministration probably not but i think he's already had an impact because you know in syria flexion of the power of the federal government or the perceived power of the federal government that the mere fact that the president would complain about a company like twitter and giant company in terms of its market value and have its
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stock crash. that that a reflection of how investors perceive the power of the presidency there ever is the president and funny that i mean what do social media giants need to do to regain the trust of uses and also to increase them his own. can you name a desk yeah i lost you there for a minute i probably just repeat the question finally what do social media giants need to do to regain the trust of users and also to base those users as well. well i think they should avoid trying to be a policeman. they certainly can and. it's easy enough i think for them to monitor. things that are what we would call yelling fire in a crowded theater which violates free speech. we don't which doesn't
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violate speech that's where you're you know creating a riot or whatever those are pretty much a rear and easy to spot and other than that i think they should steer clear of it and just let it be a free flow of information the big problem in the united states is that our media is so bad that people are reading newspapers are watching real news stations they're watching these. entertainment programs to get their information and so they're vulnerable to this kind of short instant. you know little news flashes that can steer people in weird directions it's quite scary thought dave lindorff independent jenna's many thanks he thought thank you thanks for having me . now around six hundred migrants have breached a border fence separating spain's north african territory of susa and.
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the. the. spanish police say the migrants mostly from sub-saharan africa turned violent throwing molotov cocktails at least one hundred thirty people have been injured the autonomous cities of souter and many are are the only land borders with africa and hundreds of migrants trying to jump the fence is there every year the latest incident comes just hours after spain's foreign minister raised the alarm over the situation. more serious than the euro crisis the migration problem must be solved on the ground and the countries of origin otherwise we're just shifting pressure from one place to another people now see space in as a better bet than italy who's trying to close its borders come completely this again as always and this is been going on for years and years and years without a successful resolution and it is because the e.u.
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collectively in the member states have been unable to come to a proper equitable burden sharing of how to deal with migrants coming into europe a lot of the states are not pulling their weight well for more on these and plenty of other stories in features r.t. dot com otherwise i'll be back with headlines at the top of the n.c.c. . everywhere in the world my guess is that probably just about everywhere women expect men to make that first move and here we are in an age where miscarriage you make the first move don't know how to make the first move don't know what's right to make the first move.
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greetings and salutations before stoneman dog worse before the march for our lives before newtown beggars sandy hook or even columbine there was poured are for the events of april twenty eighth one thousand nine hundred ninety six in the historic town of port arthur test mania for ever changed the course of history here in australia both politically and culturally because it was on the day of the tourist attraction in historical site that thirty five souls lost their lives to a gunman's madness and while the tragedy itself shook the world it was also australia's response to the violence that brought not only many nods of approval but a few raised eyebrows and concern you see the port arthur massacre was the catalyst for the australian government to enact massive and sweeping changes to their laws regarding the ownership buying and selling of firearms forever changing the culture
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of guns here in the land down under since that tragic day many around the world now point to australia as a shining example of how our society and government should respond to gun violence and mass shootings with the united states currently under an epidemic of mass shootings and gun related violence and split between two internal political ideologies. at war over a solution maybe it's time for the united states to start looking outward for help so today hawk watchers we take you want to journey to sydney australia to talk with their experts their gun owners and their citizens to discover what has and has not worked and australia has offered to never again be faced with the tragedy and heartbreak that occurs when a monster walks into a public place with a gun in his hand and violence in our hearts now let's start watching the hawks here in the land of oz.
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oh it was all alone with. her. i mean there's nothing like the united states american city for american cities are not safe. a strange and generally safe very safe. but still there are. there are guns but particularly following there was one
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very infamous massacre at port arthur in tasmania. that really had a shocking effect on the country and it was a conservative government howard government actually reinforced the gun laws following that massacre. we've just had the the killing of seven people in western australia apparently suicide. a really cold blooded killing that to me seemed almost out of place here but it's not because there are gardens in the country those guns that the alleged murderer used were licensed so the licensing laws here of it there's nothing like the kind of open market and.
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the. the culture of the gun is sacred in the united states it's certainly built into the fabric of the myth ology and then i'd just say that there's no parallel here this is this is generally a gun control society given the similar histories between the united states and australia why do you think that like guns and that kind of you know idea of romanticizing guns and violence and all that why did that take such a hold in the united states but not here in australia it is interesting your question about well what's the difference you know the united states has this has this great outback in the strait a has this great outback and the gun has played a major role in the gun did play a major role here. and has and as i say until recently
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but. perhaps because. gun laws were strict where most of the population was they were strict. in the cities and i imagine. a straight in gun law followed to some degree british law. by a very strict. well tyrrell talk to john pilger i met with two experts on opposite sides of the gun control debate here in australia the founding director of gun policy dot org associate professor philip alpers of the university of sydney australia and diana mellon executive director sporting shooters new south wales in an effort to get the facts figures and debate on a strain gun control all the colonies hundred fifty colonies of all the big european him pas did much the same in the lights early nine hundred source and
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decided that there would be three pillars of gun control one would be that the gun owner is licensed to on a farm just like with a cop that the object itself the gun is registered just as you do with a car but most importantly that having a firearm license permission to use a firearm is a conditional privilege i'm not a right and that's exactly the same with cars you do something silly with a car you can get your license taken away the same thing applies to guns in one hundred fifty former european colonies the standout nation of course the one nation that decided not to go that way and to go exactly the opposite direction with the second amendment and no registration no licensing is the united states so you know to get you fired license you have to do a farm safety test and there's theory and practical components to that and we have two slightly different licensing approaches depending on if it's for a long arms license or that's a rifle or shotgun or if it's for handgun a pistol so with the long arms license you have to do
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a safety test you then have to have a what we call a genuine raise then and there are a number of different genuine reasons for recreational shooting is the. three most popular target shooting and if you do you have to support that we may be shipped to a club she need five days recreational hunting investment control and you can support that general raise and in a number of different ways membership of a club having access to a property and then there are some other there's an license which is a license that's issue here in new south wales that gives hunters access to our state forests. to us in public health the gun is to gun violence as the mosquito is to malaria it's the agent of and so we treat it just as we do the car in the road toll we treat it as though it is a problem that can be solved and they are really is that america lead the world in developing all these techniques of public health interventions with the road toll
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with the with the h.i.v. toll which also was ideologically very disadvantaged and of course the reduction in tobacco related diseases so america led the world in all three of those huge public health initiatives but doesn't seem prepared to do the same with firearms because of that confusion between freedom and liberty and and public health and saving lives the premise behind our firearms laws is public safety there are a lot of what we term your credit rating tape associated with firearms ownership so we agree with licensing background checks but our per each episode approach is that you license the person so the person is dated feet and proper to and use firearms and then we don't need to further register the firearms when john howard did what he did he outflanked he outpaced he outwitted the gun lobby in twelve days he just
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what the floor with them and they've been trying to do a comeback ever since they've been trying desperately to whittle these laws back down and they've succeeded in every state and. territory in some way they have weakened australia's gun laws over the past twenty years and it's that we still got the three pillars of gun control licensing registration and treating gun ownership as a conditional privilege those three pillars are still intact however. what the gun lobby is trying to do is to constantly reduce the age at which children can be allowed to fire guns reduce the what they call the the red tape and the inconvenience to gun owners of all these gun a talk about inconvenience talk to the victim of a gun crime i think in a style of being a firearms i know that there is a lot of responsibility. and require as obligations to adhere to a number of laws so you've got the licensing laws you've got the safe storage laws
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the background checks that happen when you first get your license firearms owners are constantly monitored so if anything happens usually the first action of the place is to go and suspend the farm's license seize the firearms until the charge or whatever it is has been has been investigated and there's an outcome so firearms owners in australia do you take take we take our responsibility very seriously. we have. a component of our society that is extremely opposed to firearms and they tend to use scare mongering and fia and misinformation to try and i guess pursue their agenda here at the university of sydney we've built the world's largest database the world's largest knowledge base on everything to do with firearm death and injury and and suicide.

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