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more going on today is going underground but first today britain's highly criticized former health secretary now replacement for boris johnson jeremy hunt is in china first dialogue with senior communist party members of the people's republic here is when reorganizing the u.k. n.h.s. explaining why china is close to his heart i think the first. marry. the policies aren't implemented though as health secretary were arguably rather different to the chinese communist party here is the leader he supported defending austerity in the wake of defacto gambling gone wrong by the city of london we've had to take some tough decisions about the public sector about public spending we did that because of the state of the economy that we were left we had by the neighbor party when we came in in two thousand and ten those difficult decisions have arguably had catastrophic civilizational effect in britain meanwhile in china china has lifted over eight hundred million people out of poverty into most of the
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progress that's been made in going from forty percent of the world live in extreme poverty to now listen ten percent most of the progress happened in china what about progress in britain actually in fact britain is regress according to figures on poverty this month so could there be something systemically wrong in the u.k. and do the british public recognise it now jeremy corbyn is odds on to replace theresa may joining me now is oxford university's holford mackinder chair one of the world's greatest geographers professor danny dorling whose new book peak inequality britain's ticking time bomb is out now president well go back to going underground so you trace the roots of why a relatively left of center labor party under jeremy corbyn no looking set to win the next election is directly related to what you call peak inequality what is peak inequality peak inequality is when everything comes together so the way we measure inequality is the gap between rich and poor in terms of income and that would be getting wider and wider and then got narrow for people. in the top ten percent but
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they count on getting more and then they lost thousands of jobs they went up and down until around about spring this year spring two thousand and eighteen when the highest paid person in britain lost his job and we all had reports that bankers pay was falling so is the peak of the income inequality gap but at the same time problems created by inequalities are problems like homelessness. one hundred thirty thousand children homeless christmas that's the highest it's been for many many years their freight their fates are now rising for the whole population by five percent in the last twelve months they things rarely ever happen last time that happened was in war time and when you begin to get so many incredibly terrible. and you see the very best off bus stop taking more cars they can't take anymore it looks like a pick it may not be a peek but this is what a peak looks like the last peak was nineteen thirty so that's the only woman you
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got to go on the same kind of thing happened then but you also tend to have a disaster around the time of a peak the obvious one then was the first one. it is a much more benign disaster than the first world war but it's just the kind of thing that makes a country poorer and when you become poor at this kind of extreme situation the only place you can get the money from to keep going is the very rich and that begins the kind of slide down towards becoming more normal and becoming more equal should say of course those. who disagree is going to make those poorer you say there's a myth going around in british public life about who voted for breaks the myth is that it's a working class of disaffected working class votes up and voted leave but only about a quarter to leave out the social class d.n.a. the majority leave vote was middle class a.b.c. won the majority was in the south of england. working class people are much more
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likely not to vote whereas middle class people typically older middle class people voted and your typical late voter was a conservative told. he wasn't to each but wasn't particularly poor living in the south of england who had watched as far as they're concerned and then write a country slowly fall apart and their own children and their grandchildren been unable to buy a home start a family they don't everything they've been told to do and yet they were looking at the most future they've been promised in the eighty's and the ninety's and they were angry it was not the last industrial jobs of the north at all just a reminder younger viewers before we explore the issues very issues are you going so so clearly coherently here you remind readers that back in the seventy's britain was not like this at all it was approaching levels of air quality that are now present in scandinavia for large countries in year round about nine hundred seventy six britain was the second most equal to sweden the gap between rich and poor where
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the now it's a billion the whole of history the british isles people could start a family in their twenty's you could get a hug we have an employment we'll find employment you know you could actually choose what job you want to not this fake full employment we have now where your sanction to death if you don't take any job that you can possibly find you had to resume often and pointing to those employment figures but of course even in mainstream media than talking about the working poor not even being able to afford houses you claim that the right to buy a policy of being able to in effect the privatisation of council housing is one explanation of why fewer people now starting the own homes yes we initially want to buy was the biggest transfer of wealth that the poor had ever got in britain initially but you bought your council house if you'd lived some years with this count but then you sold it on. to
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a private landlord and that private landlord then charges a private went in the council and and you suddenly find that the country as a whole is in a much worse situation the consequences are the opposite of what was that and. not intended they really did want people locked in their houses paying a mortgage being well behaved. very recently over a quarter of all families in england in chile with children have a private landlord can be evicted with two months notice this is a quarter of all families in england with kids going to school have no security that they can carry on living in that home never in at any time they can be told you've got two months and you've got to go ok when you claim that. making all these announcements about housing and your claiming that the one point two billion pounds is about the price of a long street in chelsea in the rich broader if we are at the peak of inequality and your political parties all begin to step to the left you could imagine getting
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into a situation in twenty or thirty years time when a right wing government tries to build more social housing than labor and that is exactly what happened twenty or thirty years after the last pic. the matt millen actually managed to build more decent quality free bad big council houses than the ninety five labor given to done of course along the way they look at it would be that big inequality could mean a rise of the far right and immigration is certainly debated nonstop on our screens in relation to the brakes of debate you appear to correlate lower rates of immigration to britain with falling g.d.p. growth. if you look at immigration over the last century human beings move all around the planet trying to stop them doesn't work immigration rituals are incredibly ineffective what stops people coming or staying is if there are no jobs they don't come so the poor part. so britain don't have immigrants. but also if you
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have a more equal society which means fewer jobs of the bottom you get less immigrants on health care you say the worst record cameron may have the worst record of any post where ministers know that the health care. crisis is unbelievable it's the cuts in social health the most devastating half of all those other social workers he's a ton of for half an hour at the file person's house once a week just to check the handful of bottoms that as those jobs are gone males in wales and another being delivered. to me. and the really odd thing about it is that the biggest effect has been on people in their eighty's and late seventy's and this group will be majority middle class to live that long majority and probably voted conservative in seventy nine and eighty three in eighty seven and the bulk of the premature death of half of the date is at least one hundred twenty five thousand their support for it has actually elderly people who had swallowed
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during their middle age the idea that you vote for the market and laissez faire would never be good and they're the ones dying earlier and dying earlier than people elsewhere in europe and it's not just the poor who are being affected by this this is affecting everybody the in the in from or for the whole population is now going up five years ago it was just for babies we have mums who are from working class now it's everybody and this is what happens at the peak. there were things i used to complain about five years ago and say this is terrible. elderly women were losing five and a half weeks of life expectancy and i came out said you can't believe this has not been nothing compared to what's happening today just just finally you say you can hear the new labor blairite in tory policies do if they were a medical trial they'd be drawn on ethical grounds if you compare inequality policies to terrorism since you have to be. in death. well in your thought
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experiments that at the end of the book in the fourth or in the last section of the book. tries to look back on the day for imagining a hundred years in the future because if you're swept up in it if you're in it now it's very easy to say nothing can change much you know that which will hold on to what they've got if you look back at nine hundred eighteen and look at just how much change so quickly from one hundred years ago you can see that changes are actually normal changes what we should expect what you have to ask is what will people look at in the future the we're doing now and say they didn't realize how in human that was and i'm not really trying to guess the future because you can see that i'm using examples of countries that are ahead of us in time if you like and they get better results but also their children are happy and mental health happier and i also get to look at what we're doing now which i suspect will be seen as ridiculous in the future and the heights of inequality countries do the most
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ridiculous things and his well being i mean the big rise in inequality in germany was in the one nine hundred thirty s. . inequality wise are not necessarily good news they can relate to fascist governments but any other kind of bad news is after the peak in normally takes twenty years before you even notice things getting better it's not a sudden ivana you know it is just you're no longer seeing the rich taking more and more but you don't suddenly see life improve for everybody it's the bad news is it's a very slow process going down the slope again president i don't thank you. after the break. food banks for kids as children in the u.k. begin this summer holidays we speak to n.g.o.s feeding britain about why nearly half a million emergency food parcels went to children last yeah and homicide rates higher
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than new york reform gang member how do you hold seemingly spiraling increases in knife crime rate for the mud on the streets of england and wales well the simple coming up in today's going on the ground. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. you know world a big part of. life and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that midstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time
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is now for watching closely watching the hawks. welcome back in the first half we heard from oxford professor danny dorling about inequality leading to the early one hundred thirty thousand children being homeless last christmas but how have british children now and summer holiday been affected by years of austerity brought on by bailing out the city of london's bank because joining me now is rodeo girls she is the national director of the group feeding britain rosie thanks for coming on the show so nothing more welcome to children and summer holidays but your organization telling a different story that summer is not going to be fun for maybe millions in britain millions of children so course the summer holiday should be a really positive time it should be a time that children in their families look back on with very happy memories but
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unfortunately for a lot of children in the u.k. that isn't the case the school holidays can be a time that's but a lot of pressure on families financially children who get their free school meals during the term time suddenly that support falls away and families are faced finding anywhere between thirty and forty pounds a week extra they didn't have to before so it can be a time of real hardship and worry for families as well but the good news is that lots of community groups around the country supporting children running activity sessions and meals and last week the government announced that they are funding two million pounds this summer to support those clubs which is a really positive move two million pounds across england and wales across the united kingdom. syrian fans across england and it's a pilot face is the price of a warm bed room flat in central and we could always always asking for more but it's a really positive start in the first time there has been national government funding for holiday provision and it's a pilot program so they'll be looking at what comes out of the summer what can we learn about the evidence and what works and hopefully using that as the basis for
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larger scale funding in the future and when do we clear it's called feeding britain you just mentioned lifeline we're talking about the fact the children would start of if you will or your organization was not able to help them to some orders we certainly see families in very difficult situations families obviously under financial pressure what we see a lot of the time is parents skipping meals themselves to make sure their children are fed which is obviously a desperate situation to be in but it's not just about the food millions of children this is. it's a huge problem the all party parliamentary group on hunger last year estimated that there are three million children in the u.k. at risk of hunger during the school holiday so these are big numbers and we're really seeing a spike during the school holidays one of our projects in the northeast started recently and saw double the number of children turning up on the first day of provision and they expected i was talking to a food bank in cornwall recently where the food bank manager there in the in the first day of the school holidays provided food for eight hundred meals now last
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year in the whole six week summer holiday they provided three thousand meals so they're seeing a really worrying spike and they're really concerned about the situation for the families they work with this and the shadow education minister emma a little book claims that these problems are due to a direct will they're a direct result of the removal of early intervention services so it was the downgrading of sure stood. on the coalface do your people actually see that i mean is i was there telling you or is it just it's always been like this well there's always been poverty but i think when you look at food once you start to look into the causes underlying it it's not just about food it's giving someone a meal isn't the solution we have to look at why someone ended up in that situation in the first place and a lot of the reasons why people are finding themselves in hardship are to do with problems of the benefits system so either incorrect payments incorrect calculations benefit delays or a lot of for a lot of families they're in work with their own insecure contracts or low incomes and they're really struggling to make ends meet so there is
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a bigger picture there and it's feeding britain as well as trying to support families in the near future we're also trying to look at how do we solve some of those underlying causes by working with the politicians to try and bring about legislation to change the. universal credit. driesum is new policies since you've been prime minister punishing people sanctions against people in benefit to encourage them into work is that helping well unfortunately we're seeing a lot of people affected by universal credit and sanctions coming to emergency food project it is one of the quite significant drivers of proving doing well i think what we're calling for is ways to improve that system some of the very practical concrete changes that could be changed around universal concept credit sanctions to make it work better so one of the things for example we're calling for a yellow card system and sanctions so for a first offense or a first issue someone's issued a warning rather than being sanctioned straightaway because if you cut of someone's
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benefits straight away it really does put that family into a lot of as you would make good and he would have to have a fear because the brakes is. put into his hands the whole of britain is. giving its post policy responsibility to says food banks like the ones you are members are involved in they're not. symptomatic of poverty they are symptomatic of cash flow problems as i say i think there is a bigger picture here that we really need to be looking at i mean the food banks are run by community volunteers it's it's a community response to a need that's grown it's poverty or aids or poverty to me it's absolutely poverty the reason but that someone finds themselves starting to think for food is because the pressure on the household income has reached such an extent that they've had to seek emergency assistance so to support those people yes they need good quality food and dignified way but we also need to look at why they're ending up in a situation and look at this is stomach issues and i think those are issues for
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politicians feeding britain was established by a cross party group of politicians i think this is bigger than party politics it's about looking at those root causes and saying what can we do in a very practical sense to make sure that families don't end up in a situation and i know you have to be bipartisan or on the issue as an ngo but right now jacob riis morg who is the favorite to replace to resume the reason that he ever wanted to do that clearly saying and you're saying three million children the food banks are uplifting the world what it really is is they would cameron's big society in practice and this is a symptom of. a good side to british civic society well we be delighted to invite down some of the projects we work with so that he can talk to the volunteers and talk to families and understand really what it's like in a practical sense for those families during school holidays and we'd be delighted to talk to them but there's a she's just very briefly your next project you're working on fuel poverty
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obviously or don't think about winter as well as rural poverty as opposed to open yes so one of the projects we're launching at the moment is in cornwall which is obviously an area of you know it's a delayed holiday destination specially this time of year but once the holiday season finishes there's a lot of hardship during the winter so we're raising money for an emergency fuel bank which will be located in one of the food the food banks and alongside an emergency food parcel families will be given a voucher to top up their gas or electricity meter because what we've seen in previous years is people are unable to use the food they're given at the food bank because they don't have the gas or electricity to cook it so it's a really simple intervention and we're asking the public in cornwall holidaymakers to help us raise thirty thousand pounds to get that underway was yogi thank you thank you very much. well of the inequality and austerity outlined by professor danny dorling and rosie o. girls really wasn't allowing enough some of describing rises in violent crime in the u.k. as a public health emergency latest u.k.
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government statistics show knife crime at a record high with more than forty thousand incidents between march twenty seventh gene and march twenty eighth to me now is kevin monger who used to be a gang member and is now a law student and community activist he is the author of young black males have potential kevin thanks for coming on the show to tell me about your journey and how you gave up violence in south london after literally a day lived two cities paris and london where there's really a rough start to life as you know i was born in france i came here. in corydon. you know i grew up and i saw you know the similarities from paris to london. crime . gangs you know groups of people forming in groups minorities especially and you know for a long period of time i was able to stay away from it but then at the age of sixteen i realized that it was i joined a gang why i became a victim and so due to that fact i the only way for me to you know escape.
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the victim i victimization was daring to again you know. i joined a gang because in mainstream media gangs of moderate is incarnations of evil basically there's no context whatsoever i mean how was the i mean did teachers do anything i mean thousands. in croydon according to latest figures in south london toward encloses a more than thirty primary education oversubscription of a now over a thousand percent in some cases schools better in your day the ranges i think school was definitely better in my. no i think what is happening is this so-called gangs or gangsters are actually people that are prisoners prisoners of the streets prisoners to certain ideologies and ideals you know that they are governed by you know when i think of it and i look at the picture they're actually
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no law so what's happening is these young men or forming groups. and they're just making up their own laws and you see people who are gang members and killing jobs on the streets and they kill each other agree rather than anyone else outside these areas one reason why mainstream media portrayals this isn't deserve isolated from mainstream britain i think is actually due to the they probably want to be. put under the carpet so they don't really want to show what is really happening and what is up and what's happening it's making headlines so media. day or few in theory and to some people because i could wake up could be a teenager or a fifteen year old boy wake up and see the actually just ten people have died last week and think there is the norm. subconsciously they are normalizing something
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days of normal waste of human potential are we talking about. i don't know the exact figures but the loads. when we talk about waste i'm talking about talents i'm talking about destinies i'm talking about families because when you kill one minute you entire generations of us how deep it is and this it comes it when i rode if you've written about your experience which is a few years before the twenty year wait ground one g.m.b. union studies as the more than half of school support staff are spending their own money to give pupils food tampons pencils do you think. all of this context is going to make things worse i don't think that is enough i think what society should look at the government because that's the body that is higher than us they should really focus on invest in things like social skills so making sure that the
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children are coming into school have developed in their soft skills so for example they know that they can open a bank account when they get older they can have a job at the age of sixteen you know at the age of eighteen that they can ever go and do an apprenticeship over and to university and a lot of these kids such as myself when i was growing up i didn't know about these things and so you thought that the only way to excel if it isn't for sport or music per se is for a lot of communally you've written about the drug trade and how that affects gangs tell me a little bit about that or warsi is i think that these young men. intrapreneur really but they just not know it and they already thought that the only way for them to gain money is in the legitimate way by they can actually use those skills that they've learned on the streets and use it in a positive way you know in a legitimate way the government of just said or these the police have said that
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banning drill music videos on you tube will go gang violence or if you think of the i don't personally thought that banning and jar of music. the crease left due to the fact that. jewel music is actually an outlet for certain young males out there they don't have an occupation percy's such as a job or they don't play a sport and we've been in there i think it actually increases and this is just an expression of these young men's left isn't right for expression it is their expression no i don't condone the music and i do thought the young men should speak about their lifestyle and also talk about the consequences i think that i think that's where it's irresponsible of them. but i mean these are as a whole i don't think it's the right decision a surprise the authorities response is things like you tube videos rather than civic skills like opening bank accounts and. other elements of what it is to
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live as an adult i think i'm not surprised because i think they are trying to deal with a problem that is already spread out so you're trying to do a report and we've been suffering from this for years you know it's just been said it's been hidden i know it's coming to light and now it's really prevalent and now with some of that it's we can see it now and now they're trying to deal with it and so they're just running everywhere and trying to tackle it. i'm not surprised in that aspect but what if they successfully sued on the carpet and these figures just go up and up in the segregated areas of britain and then that's when we have you know a war on the streets given longer thank you and that's it for the show will be back on wednesday on the eve of results from one of the british government's favored outsourcing companies serco which operates u.k. borders waste collection pensions war planes trains prisons what people schools navy bases and weapons field then he would talk to a social media will feel when the forty eight years to the day of the death of
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suspected communists hollywood actor francis farmer played by jessica lange in the oscar nominated francis. says harlan kentucky. overall. it was. a co money city with no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the coal mines of. these people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here and that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's how it's happened.
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there is the most noble political deciders to have more green energy but if implemented in the wrong commercial way. it will over the next few years save was enough of the time frame of three four five years you will have such a melanson all subsidized projects etc that are unlikely to be able to stand on their own two feet.
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