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hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle trumps invitation to putin to visit the white house is postponed putin turns around inviting trump to moscow have a grand plan regarding russia or is he merely keeping a campaign promise this and much much more on this edition of crossfire. cross talking trump's agenda i'm joined by my guest here in moscow erich krauss he's an independent political risk analysis we also have the i'm a bobbit she's a political analyst with sputnik international and in london we cross the charles schumer bridge he is a security analyst and a former u.k. army and counterterrorism intelligence officer right gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciate charles. let me go to you first in london here we had after the afterglow of helsinki trump

appeared that want to have another bite at the apple and then he changed his mind we can talk about why that happened and then potent turns around and invites trump to moscow the same kind of perilous jeopardy or is it a different gambit in play go ahead charles in london what i think for me for both presidents showed what is possible and what is possible once the operators of crecy or shall we say what trump himself might even call the deep state is pushed to one side as we know in the house and it was very much of a one on one conversation apart from the interpreters and we still don't know the full extent of what was discussed and although much in american media and british media even have pointed to that in a very prejudicial way as if we should know everything that is discussed between leaders of course this is completely normal of course when it comes to conferences and meetings between people of course there's an awful lot of chatter that goes on behind the scenes and that's as it has to be as in any negotiation and. from

himself would point out few people in the planet as he would say know more about negotiation than he does but of course i think the reaction back in united states and the united kingdom. countries that of course are very much opposed to trump's policies in many ways his policies of trying to seek some kind of agreement with most countries and certainly with russia and probably behind the scenes with china and as we saw korea of course we can talk and we have talked many times in the past on this program and elsewhere about the vested interests that lie in not promoting that kind co-operative agenda there's an agenda of course of confrontation and there are too many vested interests in now and we can go into so i think from what i've expected to be a response he received and he's played that quite well he's if you like go to the media go to deep state establishment political establishment united states by saying hey we're inviting. this arch enemy of the entire world as putin is

portrayed in the media over here to the very homeland itself then when there was the shock and awe over that and then whenever your action came. and then of course in steps in a grand chess master and exam invited him exactly exactly what your reaction because i could understand why trump backed away because i think he wants the midterms to get out of the way and we still have the moeller investigation going on here but what it putin invite trump basically putin has other things. there then the united states mr putin is russia is faced with a lot of challenges with a lot of things which need reform and there is no interest for the russian state for the russian deep state whatever to be engaged in constant warfare with one of the largest and most powerful geo political players on the globe so basically putin's line is very simple he is looking for relative the talent is willing to be

able to talk not shout which we've already they've already met they've already met say i mean it seemed to me that you would need some kind of concrete step in that you know and kind of a green with erik here i mean ok the ice has been broken but what could the russian side expect with another meeting so close on the heels of helsinki well at least some improvement there with russian diplomatic premises in the u.s. which are being occupied territory against the war you know russia. famous american courts are pretty slow but also let me remind you who told us that was postponed in their meeting john bolton course said that let me quote him there when chart is over well to hear from john bolton about we can't that is something you know that is going to you know you know what that tells me and tells me that john bolton loeb's. power he wanted for the key because you know you want to try new

things not going to be over anytime soon it is the one straw that the u.s. democratic party has to let you know eighteen months after the election they're still argue with the referee this is a suicide note on the table one of the things gentlemen i keep saying this and maybe this is going to be my signature comment for the year ok try this mitt putin campaign promise kept ok check done let me go back to charles in london i think all of us took a look at this article in the spectator and there's no author attached to it trumpet trades the elites a sense that the u.s. always is a peer in democracy loving you know it's really quite interesting because the authors of this article essentially say that trump is the first post exceptional as president to be united states that's a remarkable characterization go ahead charles it's one day i one surprise you to hear that i absolutely agree with your book it's an excellent article yeah it's

very well timed to me and i think it hits the nail on the head and i would recommend readers viewers to try and get a hold of that and you know to eat it myself but it's actually in line with what yourself peter myself and others two and a half years ago on this program and elsewhere we were discussing that this is likely to be what would happen in india and having it's not just as the article says that this is why the deep state dislikes trump it's why they disliked the prospect of trump so and off years ago because they predicted that this is what's going to happen trump is effectively as the article says he is a transactional personality he's a president that conducts diplomacy in terms of trying to action is another something just to say transactions in terms of business although he does do a lot of that as well and again i would say that none of what i'm saying here is in support of or against from his just seems to me to be a factual observation there he regards diplomacy as transactions and therefore of course he benefits very much from his. it's an experience when he conducts one to one meetings and not just with putin but around the world that is bringing some

benefits it is reducing tensions at a time when much of the world ok you use you use that term is a bad abusive term benefits that's very interesting benefit benefit thing who let me read part of it here but in crucial ways the nationals figure he trump and bodies is not necessarily one in the same with the exceptional nation meet those which has animated the self conception of the american political class for decades for his detractors in that in the think tanks in the elite media institutions this is heresy the. point is that trump has understood some of trump is an american supremacist he is not an american exceptionalism he sees that america as a conglomeration of business interests and it is his job to forward to further their interests and this is what he's seeking to do what trump has understood with

a certain animal cunning is that the united states is threatened by one country and one country only and that country is not russia so to push russia into the arms of china is is madness it's already happened we'll talk about this i'm going to have to talk about polls and i think much of his strategy because his character may sometimes seem a bit wild and woolly and unpredictable but that does not mean that there is not a well thought out strategy no i think so i think there is trying to do he's going to be a strategy and the strategy is to minimize threats to american exaggerates redeemer where's democracy promotion you know. where is you know with me a liberal agenda in all it's not the garrets not part of that's the whole point it's not there and there's a stop to it that's what makes them so angry that you were there the globalists and i lived in this article they say you know that trump is not an american nationalist

transsexual list but the people who go to america involved in all of these wars in libya in iraq are they really american nationalists did they rig a certain american national interest i love the recent presentation by tucker carlson who said that i'm quoting him people who know it's your strawman of being a russian puppet happened to be the same people who had been mismanaging our foreign policy for the past few decades who invaded iraq who killed one mark adopted for no obvious reason and who brought along the horrible syrian civil war these people made america. we and poor and said no they are american nationalist and exceptional that he has a trunk but i'm going to go back to charles before we go to the break here charles i mean that there is that one word in that paragraph that i read that really stands out this is heresy that's exactly how trump is being treated is

a heretic and they are in the minds in the eyes of the think tanks in of the liberal media go ahead charles. yes that's exactly right and it's as we predicted turned off years ago i get back to that point because the. let's use a reset extended deep state this extends beyond america that includes for example much of the british establishment the british intelligence services and so on we talked endlessly and i'm glad we did because it's all part of largely correct that they were seeking to discredit and undermine any possible even impeach trump even as he was pained inaugurated and their worst fears have come true he has had to play a careful game and i think after two years he's learning to play that game a bit better he's learning to handle a deep state know where he has to give a little pound of flesh here and there where behind the scenes he can continue with what he wants to do as you say fulfill his promises in respect of russia and otherwise but there's still two years to go and we'll have to wait and see if he can survive those four years it might be possible he can actually fully turn around

american foreign policy it's a big gamble that he's taken but he's and he's learned to do it in small stages yes the big big question will be november elections here last thirty seconds for this part go ahead erick. the point is people and he was talking about civil wars and we've got to realize that there is a low intensity civil war underway in the united states right now where if you look at the media everything is now defined in terms of black and white you cannot there is no analysis of trumps strategy because what you're talking about the devil in medieval theology you don't ask what is the devil's motives he's evil because he is a demon trump is by definition evil so you don't they don't think about they don't try to analyze what he was trying to get into ready to go to a short break here we have to keep in mind that donald trump. public a pin.