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the modern day america and stop oh. we cannot stand by it more or in just agencies. a. way that. when ice called the portland police stop the department antitrust mayor ted wheeler who's also police commissioner refused saying his officers would not bail out ice here's how he explained his stance in this case i have consistently stated that i do not want the portland police bureau in gauged in securing federal property but the house is a federal agency with its own federal police force ice accuse the mayor of creating a quote so now of terror and lawlessness but this conflict between wheeler and the trumpet ministration has been going on for months now in january attorney general jeff sessions ordered sanctuary cities like los angeles chicago portland etc to comply with immigration enforcement efforts now these cities refuse with wheeler
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calling it one of the most disappointing actions he's ever seen from the white house but protests against ice have sprouted nationwide an anti-us sentiment has trickled up to effect trump officials even press secretary sarah sanders and secretary of homeland security kiersten nielsen many by now have heard that i was asked to leave a restaurant this weekend where i attempted to have dinner with my family my husband and i politely left and went home i was asked to leave because i work for president trump. ok you. are right i think. this latest case shows that the us is growing more and more polarized and it's not just limited to protesters we're now witnessing disagreement between the federal government and the state government which could potentially have very severe repercussions the american blogger on for me brian logan sais the mainstream media
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house contributed to the going histeria surrounding the agency. i think he will be more conversations like this this is not anything new this is been going on for a little wow ever since chuck got elected and he's people are. driving largely by the mainstream media because it immediate talks about over here in the states is ice is evil ice is corrupt defend the separation was so regular everyday people there are no phone no data to get no say to get triggered and they go out there and do these things largely because they're being programmed to do so so as long as the mainstream media is complicit if you continue to see more things like this unfortunately the. u.k. media are reporting that the monk chester arena bomber who was rescued from war torn libya by the british navy in twenty fourteen three years before he died to a terror attack at an ariana grande a pop concert the atrocity left twenty two dead the youngest an eight year old girl
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polly boyko reports. well according to media reports here in the u.k. three years before that deadly attack in manchester someone a baby had been rescued by the british government from libya it was part of an operation to rescue british citizens he was taken aboard a royal navy ship and taken from where he reportedly then got a flight back to the u.k. and he'd been rescued by the british government even though he had been under the surveillance of the domestic intelligence agency head that's m i five now in terms of a baby's background he was born in the u.k. but a libyan parent so he was a british citizen but in two thousand and eleven a baby's parents moved to join the uprising against the government of gadhafi and his father was thought to have been fighting in
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a terrorist group called the ally f.g. the libyan islamic fighting group and a baby was thought to sort of shuttled back and forth between the u.k. and libya for a number of years but he was thought to have been in libya in the summer of two thousand and fourteen and at that point the civil war had got increasingly violent and so british officials made this offer to evacuate british nationals from the country that's how a baby ended up being rescued and by the time of his rescue emery five had stopped monitoring him and the implication therefore is that he was simply considered safe to return back to the u.k. that was reiterated to us by the today in a statement they told us that sort of the government inquiry into what led up to the manchester attack it found that the decision to start monitoring
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a baby in two thousand and fourteen was found on the basis of. the information available at the time and although they didn't mention a baby by name in this statement to us they did confirm that the operation to rescue british citizens from libya in two thousand and fourteen took place during that era reaching security situation in libya in two thousand and fourteen but the force officials were deployed with the british nationals and their dependents i think what the government has been keen to point out is that that decision to close the case and invade in two thousand and fourteen based on the information they had at the time the point they're making there is that no one could have known back then that upon his return to the u.k. he would go to war to start this sort of downward spiral of radicalization that would culminate with that horrific attack at the area on the ground
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a consulate in manchester arena last may all right we're back after the break debating some controversial remarks by trevor noah we've got a debate on that in about ninety seconds.
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what politicians do. they put themselves on the line they did accept the reject. so when you want to be president and. want to. have to go right to be this is what was before three of them all the people. interested always at the water's edge. welcome back to the program comedian trevor noah shot to the top of the t.v. personalities chart in the u.s. the chart is based on popularity and on social media platforms on television there's no question he's beloved by many but many also argue some of his jokes too often cross the line.
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all women of every race can be beautiful and i know some of your sitting in the yard but i've never seen a beautiful aborigine yeah but you know what you say you say yes that's to say yes because you haven't seen all of the right plus it's not always about looks maybe aborigine women do special things like jump on top of you. for help but i don't want the world for what. i mean look i get it i get it they have to say it's the french team but look at those guys go girl you don't get that tan by hanging out in the south of france my friends.
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dancing. how bad the stance is. but it wasn't it was the police this is the miners and they wanted money and it was a sad situation no one really knows what happened but everyone has an opinion i like this one valid last joke provoked a backlash on twitter though it's actually been years since no one made it it is about the twenty twelve maracana must occur when police in south africa kill dozens of people during a miners' strike as you can see some twitter users have them busted for using such provocative humor as they see it to build his career ok let's get into this not i'm happy to say we've got john f. o. donnell political correspondent on our team or his comedy news program right ducted tonight alongside on their legal political analyst lionel gentlemen you're both very welcome and john let's start with you no stranger to the world of comedy
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yourself or do you find newest jokes about the more account of moscow operational women funny. let's just deal with out first of all. ok well i'm very torn on this because as a comedian my instinct is always to kind of defend other comedians were sort of like this extended dysfunctional family i can kind of like you know you can do wrong within the community but outside of it we're going to kind of lock horns and defend ourselves and i will say i'm very very torn about the americana massacre one because it's like these two passions of mine you know politics and comedy kind of coming head to head there which is sort of thing where it's like it's a real kind of punch down situation where he's defending. state state terror by the south african police against miners that are trying you know to kind of get an increase in wages and stuff like that so to me it's not my taste for that particular bit but at the same time i think there's comedic license and he's a comedian and we should you know move on line are there beyond reason standup
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comedy should there be no simple. i think that i think that and i think that this is a pretty well you know i mean the reality is once we start letting this kind of p.c. monsters come into place and having like you know people decide what is you know what is tolerable and what is good we do cross a mess that we do cross a dangerous line but that being said if somebody does a comedian does want to of their own volition apologize for a bit i think that that is ok like he did apologize for this the bit about saying you know aboriginal people are attractive and i know. couple of things here a couple of rules of a comedy i did stand up for years did all of this stuff but in the the biz here for thirty years seeing people make bad jokes to me everything is valid in terms of
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whether you call it humor or pekin commentary if you don't like it turn it off but a rule might be don't joke about something called dumb ass occur just saying i mean i don't know if there's any rules but i stay away from mass or curry humor and that being said let me tell you what bothers me in addition to this and i'm no real big fan of trevor noah and that doesn't mean anything you know read anything into that i'm not a fan of golf either but a lot of people are how many years ago were some of these jokes is there a statute of limitations number one do we just dredge up stuff that's number one in law which had a little bit about where the statute of limitations realise shay's pretty accusatory delay that's number one number two i don't mind or i do mind you should say when some people get away with things and some people don't as you know in hollywood there's a big big debate right now with somebody who is dredging up tweets from somebody in
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movies who might have made jokes about child abuse that is considered edgy roseanne barr does one tweet nobody understands it and she is dethroned script or whatever so not only do i have a problem with the fact that these happened so many years ago who decides who gets away with what who gets to say you could say o'donnell you could say it right that you're human but you can't that's what bothers me that you're a little weird it's not the thought police the thought vigilantes john trevor nor use the n word at least one of his t.v. shows it was pretty much just accepted no punishment just you know get on with it kind of thing what do you think of such language even on a comedy show being used. well my take on that is you know him being a person of color my understanding is if you want to you know use that word in whatever context and it can be
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a context i think that's completely fine i'm not upset by it in any in any capacity but i know i don't i've never understood that rule that's this unwritten rule we have in this society if you are a member of a particular group you can take something verb a term that i said using the the dreaded n word or whatever word you want handed over to somebody of a particular demographic that is included within a stencil be that particular reference and it's ok that's not even a double standard that's just the way it is but that's insane and there's long as we understand some of the comedy today is being infiltrated with these freud ian screw ups these demented twisted angry sexually backwater we're freudian nightmare these these these pair of files who think it's
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funny to shock and to say something and whatever they say we're supposed to accept it now very frankly there's an intellectual part of me this is no five i don't like it turn it off i understand that but for a get that day's a more it's all lenny bruce richard pryor it's a different world today john just to get your take on what some people have been pointing out on twitter and other places and we have to go back to the maracana must occur in the way trevor joked about it let's again listen to a short clip. why didn't i use rabbits i didn't use i'd tend to i guess because those things don't work anymore. these are the whole wheat and they couldn't control people so that's come with ammunition for those guys had weapons plus a guest is a waste of time which strikes have ended because of to get a sliver of a little news that john was being pointed out here is not you know he saved up but he's been a strong critic of police handling a blocked lives mother protests for instance what's your thoughts on that kind of displaying opinion sure i think that this was
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a bit that was done and in poor taste does he have the right to do it should be out there of you know of course i don't want to quell freedom of expression any respect but but yeah you know i think something kind of the stronger aspect of what he's been doing on the daily show has been kind of critiquing police brutality and stuff like that and you know mass incarceration when he does talk about it so yeah it is a very you know disparate and you to kind of say something like that and then kind of have this thing you know i wrote say this was this was five years ago like lionel was saying it's like how long do these outrage police get to you know exist like what's the statute of limitation on saying something as comedians as creative people we're coming up with a lot of content we're throwing a lot of things out there sure if we say something that's you know that's really inflammatory and you know there can be a backlash and that's something that we have to we have to deal with right or wrong but i don't think it undermines the kind of those and important issues he brings up
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about race relations in america i think it's really i just think it's really unfortunate that in that particular bit it's sort of i got undermining workers' rights which is something that i particularly care about so you know so then my outrage meter is raising. ok we've got let's also remember this is trevor noah ok us all get crazy but if he to me there's jokes about palestinian riots or uprisings with israeli soldiers. no no no no no same joke same everything same context see so there's no applicability to humor across the board it's all what's in and what's not black lives matter sacrosanct the massacre of that statue what it all what's a word not oh yes edgy and i understand that look just admit one thing it's schizophrenia it's good so i doubt the occasion of rules that are made up ad hoc from week to week and if certain people make the joke they get away with it and if
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others make the same joke they don't just admit that and we're all fine. john is there a point there that maybe breviary is being lost in company a little bit the easy targets are being joked the part when it comes to liberal vs conservative liberal. comics tend to you know go done the side of conservatives when there's christian versus muslim. it seems to be maybe the christian church gets a little bit of a harder rap than the. muslim jokes because the be more of a lot john. i definitely think there's there's an element that i specially think you know right now with the trump in ministration it's in sort of sort of easy for you know mainstream liberal comedians to you know go after the ministration of the republican party that's the kind of the we'll have a house where they feel you know comfortable however when it is like really kind of
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critiquing from let's say a kind of a more kind of hard left perspective that's also holding the establishment democratic party to accounts and things like that that seems to kind of like a lot of different late night shows and things like that right now they're they're less comfortable doing that like a lot of these shows would probably be considerably you know would would be happy if there was a hillary clinton presidency but they would have less fodder to go after you know so ourselves personally honestly redacted and i will we will we do is you will use whatever kind of madness is going on is sort of a lead in to then kind of talk about more you know institutional issues and stuff like that like let's say one of his supreme court picks but then we'll take that as a way to kind of look at the supreme court as as an entire you know structure same with say his like his bombing of syria all the world will then talk about you know continued u.s. militarism an intervention regardless of which party is in power or we have got about thirty seconds left lionel a final word to you in this debate. the final words let's give an example of
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what happened recently with roseanne barr this is a tweet that she made as she basically said a she did not know the valerie jarrett was whacked and b she did not make any reference to valerie jarrett being simian she made a reference to a dystopian reference to planet of the apes nobody let her explain they didn't care it was done finished you're through and she was called a racist because it was a racist tweet now as we speak hollywood for example is going crazy defending thousands of tweets that they're calling edgy what your discussed state but that's different so it comes out of this if your in the right group and the right person the sky's the limit if you're not republican trump supporter perceived to be right wing whatever you get no tolerance and no exercise of the free liberty of free speech we we have been speaking to john f.
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o'donnell political correspondent on our team eric his comedy news program bret ducted tonight the one and only legal and political analyst lionel gentleman it's been a pleasure. just a reminder all of our breaking news before we go to break here in r t a posh and your plane has crashed five minutes after taking off from waterloo victoria international airport in mexico we knew that the local governor has tweeted there were no casualties as a result of the cross that was a new line coming in mexico's transport ministry says ninety seven passengers four crew were on board aero mexico the airline in question has confirmed they are investigating the accident. ok that is one of the stories that kay partridge a very close eye on through the night here in. if you can and often are is not i'm not all for me for.
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and madonna put them out. well. it's forbidden to fell jungle trees on palm island in the philippines in theory the landis protected by unesco but listen here sixty thousand hectares of ancient forests have been destroyed many say the hollow one is suffering a corporate onslaught as the forests of a place by mines and plantations. the service. going to. i'm going right. when i look at it i don't know not at all i don't know but i'm. not too slow to school while the body of.
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moderate tend to. come down on my off if. i've got. one. bite. of all. you have been several attempts to strip the lawn of its biosphere reserve status a local ecologists have forms to protect that you can see from them and from the right then lost among will work for a certain project that they start. first only if there are still poor you know and it helps protect us from the. couldn't but again there are new system
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