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action. ski. paris. made headlines last month off to being arrested in the u.s. for being a russian agent she now faces further allegations that she is luring american money to russia because spoke to a lawyer i can tell you is coming out very soon to a naughty americas you cheap channel. well i think if you read the indictment of the cases alleged to be an agent over russia who failed to register with the attorney general and so essentially that means is they haven't charged with espionage and if you read the ganster know the allegations are spy like about it the sense of the government is conceding that even under their own theory if she had filed a piece of paper with the attorney general's office at the beginning of her trip to america everything she did was legal and so my point is this is more of a registration type crime than a crime and yet the media and the government some extent are treating it like an
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espionage crime. well i mean i think that allegation was particularly damaging to maria because it makes it more like a spy novel and frankly easier for the public to digest and so editors and producers like those kind of allegations because it seems like this is more like the red sparrow that was an allegation that was set forth in a proffer by the government meaning they did not produce evidence to back up that allegation at the time we're still waiting to see that and we're not sure it exists or exists in any meaningful form in the interim it's very hard to see your client kind of dragged through the mud like this which is why i've been trying to push back on that. south african comedian and presenter of the daily show know a shot to the top of america's t.v. personalities based on popularity of social media platforms and television and it seems he's got a global appeal but for some people his jokes to go beyond the pale. old
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woman of every race can be beautiful and i know some of you are sitting there not going but i've never seen a beautiful aborigine you know what you say you say yes that's to say yes because you haven't seen all of that right plus it's not always about looks maybe aborigine women do special things like jump on top of you. for you know what works for don't want the world cup what you want. i mean look i get it i get it they have to say it's the french team but look at those guys who are guys you don't get that ten by hanging out in the south of france my friends.
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how bad was the stance. but it wasn't it was the police versus the miners and they wanted money and it was a sad situation no one really knows what happened but everyone has an opinion i like this while it was the last joke there that provoked a new wave of outrage on social media those been years since it was first practiced we said it's about the twenty twelve americana massacre when police in the south africa killed dozens of people during a miners' strike so on twitter slammed him for using says provocative you were to build his career so what do you think about this you know neil us comedian on one side john airflow darling on the other legal or media around this lionel if they should be boundaries in comedy. comedy today is being infiltrated with these floyd ian screw ups these demented twisted angry sexually backwater weird freud be a nightmare these these these pair of files who think it's funny to shock and to
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say something and whatever they say we're supposed to accept the reality is once we start letting these kind of p.c. monsters come into place and having like you know people decide what is you know what is tolerable and what is good we do cross a mess that we do cross a dangerous line and if somebody does a comedian does want to of their own volition apologize for a bit i think that that is ok like he did apologize for this the bit about saying you know aboriginal people are attractive to me everything is valid in terms of whether you call it humor or pekin commentary if you don't like it turn it off but a rule might be don't joke about something called a mass occur just saying i mean i don't know if there's any rules but i stay away from master curry humor let me tell you what bothers me and in addition to this and
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i'm no real big fan of ever knowing and that doesn't mean anything you know read anything into that how many years ago were some of these jokes is there a statute of limitations number one do we just dredge up stuff that's number one and number two i don't mind or i do mind to say when some people get away with things and some people don't who decides who gets away with what who gets to say you could say you could say it right that you are but you can't that's what bothers me we have to go back to the maracana musser in the way trevor joked about it let's again listen to a short clip. why didn't i use rubber burning so i didn't use i'd say yes because those things don't work anymore. these are the whole wheat and they couldn't control people so that's come with ammunition for those guys had weapons plus i guess is a waste of time which strikes have ended because of him against libya of the menus and yeah it is a very you know disparate and you kind of say something like that and then kind of have this thing you know i wrote say this was this was five years ago i was saying
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it's like how long do these our age police get to you know exist why what's the statute of limitation on saying something as comedians as creative people we're coming up with a lot of content we're throwing a lot of things out there sure if we say something that's you know that's really inflammatory and you know there can be a backlash and that's something that we have to we have to deal with right or wrong and let's also remember this is trevor noah ok about it so get crazy but if he did made there's jokes about palestinian riots or uprisings with israeli soldiers. no no no no so there's no applicability to humor across the board it's all what's in and what's not black lives matter sacrosanct the massacre that statue what it will what the word no yes is there a point there that maybe bravery is being lost in company a little bit the easy targets are being deployed when it comes to the liberal versus conservative liberal . comics tend to you know go done the side of conservatives with the trouble
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ministration it's in sort of sort of easy for you know mainstream liberal comedians to you know go after the ministration of the republican party that's the kind of the wheel has a house where they feel you know comfortable like a lot of these shows would probably be considerably you know would would be happy if there was a hillary clinton presidency but they would have less fodder to go after you know if you're in the right group and the right person the sky's the limit if you're not republican trump supporter. perceived to be a right wing whatever you get no tolerance and no exercise of the free liberty of free speech that simple while talking which shows the us looks to midterm elections facebook scripts accounts it believes could impact the vote and tell you all of. this spray.
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on this edition of crossfire we consider one question is donald trump's america first policy in contradiction to the washington consensus idea of american exceptionalism the answer this question will likely define trumps presidency and change the world. russia is one of the countries that most buy capacity and all the very high population does that mean russia does need to be concerned about this inability i would say yes absolutely you are a situation where you have a lot of farm per person so to say you know you have a lot of wealth ecological wealth and the word is very scarce so that's a huge economic advantage as well and saying wow this is an amazing farm let's look after it well because that's. a major loss to live well in the long run.
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again is of same for the break then with those u.s. mid-term elections on the horizon the specter of a lead to russian meddling facebook's now removed accounts which it believes were being used to possibly influence the outcome of the vote but a similar o'connor points there's no evidence to point the finger at moscow. thirty two accounts were deleted to face the arms race presented by quote well funded adversaries with the apparent goal of amplifying already existing conspiratorial narratives the mainstream media displaying not an ounce of creativity went on to blame the usual suspect brush and actors continue to try to disrupt metal infiltrate the us political debate if not the elections themselves well russia is
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interfering there continuing to interfere russia has been mentioned as the likely source of this interference in attempts russians and other nation states absolutely are attempting to manipulate us but on what basis the report didn't find russia or russian entities or russian linked entities responsible facebook reiterated several times that they were unable to identify the culprit and even admitted that they quote may never be able to identify the source we're still in the very early stages of our investigation and don't have all the facts including who may be behind this democratic house minority leader nancy pelosi even demanded that facebook brief congress on these critical developments which she took as confirmation of the intelligence community's russian interference claims the latest announcement confirms the longstanding findings of the u.s. intelligence community and national security experts that's russia is actively utilizing social media in a car donated effort to sow discord among the american people and undermine our
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democracy but who are those three to accounts influential enough to undermine american democracy in fact most of the spotted materials have zero to ten followers and in the scope of about fourteen months ran one hundred fifty ads for approximately eleven thousand dollars if someone is against the u.s. immigration policy which some of these anti ice accounts apparently were maybe they would like to conceal their identity maybe they're afraid of us authorities it's a strange thing are we allowed to be privately recorded five of us without people assuming that somehow there are some. hand meddling in things it's very strange but the real question is what does it mean that someone is trying to sow divisions among americans are we not allowed to disagree with each other on fundamental issues like immigration and other things and i looked at some of the pages and some of them were sort of pro-feminist women shouldn't have to cook for their for their man i mean how is this supposed to is the russian effort to sort of visions americans have always disagreed that's the nature of society of
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a free society you disagree about the so these people i think the mentality is not as like north korea or something it's very bizarre. reporting makes the city of austin in the u.s. may have to rethink its name a report from the city's equity office raised the issue that the texas state capitol was named after a supporter of slavery and that is a very sensitive issue for a city that's considered one of the most liberal in the whole country.
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so to tell you a bit more but what's been going on here austin's equity office reviewed in fact all the city's property whether or not it had any ties to the confederacy and they came up with a whole list of street names of monuments that they thought should be changed or removed or the caveat to all that is changing the city name is not likely to happen on the site any time soon it's been given a only medium priority anyway what's the controversy here well let me tell you it's all about this guy coming up here stephen austen he's the father of texas the secretary of state of the new republic of the nineteenth century that's the catch he was a prominent slavery even infamously said if slaves were emancipated they'd turn into a menace even had slaves as domestic servants as well wouldn't go down this day in age now back to today that naming the city after the state founder is commonsense though says media relations consultant and local resident john griffin. we've got
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this push in texas to try to you know be careful not to withstand anybody but texas is offensive because liberty's offensive but the fact that texas is named that its capital city is named for the person that started the colony in texas that became the state that's common sense the city council here in austin has made a few a few very bad decisions like banning it so the city council would rather waste taxpayer money on frivolous ideas like this then actually doing real work. but a good news out of some bad a russian climbers being rescued after spending nearly a week stranded on a mountain in pakistan he survived without food for several days while enjoying treacherous weather conditions. thank you for the move. but
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in a close call that for example was in the world and was rescued in to us is so far more about it all come across him cross almost or is that or why not load it up with are up here a mobile device quite see if not done already eleven twenty six a now in moscow good morning for me i'm back again just but thirty five minutes. of the people in the last month it's been. we were in that number close to this mood all day experience as the oldest him
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a life list full master of the group yes. and that all aside he would not accept that. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line. to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president or injured. or somehow want to be rich. and should like to be prosperous what the hope for freedom or can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters and not out. there should. join me every thursday on the elec simon shore and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see that.
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i'm asked in advance you were going underground on the day britain's biggest manufacturing employer the defacto taxpayer funded b.a. systems report financial results bolstered by lucrative contracts with those bombing yemen in the world's worst humanitarian crisis coming up in the show i'm talking about the pakistani tribal. villages with nuclear armed prime minister imran khan shoot down nato nations drones flying over this country we investigate the future of a china back to pakistan with former minister of state and chairman of the pakistan border investment nyima zamindar and on the day other succeeds a year's worth of its resources in the shortest period of time in history we speak to the president of the global footprint network about this work in
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a go about the biggest liberal ponzi scheme in this solar system from the troops headlines this a promised practice land of milk and honey about to become the land of turning to food for all the civil coming up in today's going underground but first how will britain respond to the political victory of pakistani cricketing legend imran khan good today's financial results from the ukase be a systems provide a clue. drama she's one of the most advanced projects that. ability. britain has been supplying intelligence from for r.a.f. bases in yorkshire cambridge lincolnshire and northamptonshire to facilitate drone strikes on khan's country according to amnesty international the usa says german strikes are vital tool in its fight against the taliban and al qaeda in the pakistan tribal areas for joining us gonna stand it considers them
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a reliable and precise method. for targeting and killing insurgent. people character he. played. amnesty has long been asking for a public inquiry into british involvement in the u.s.a.'s drone assassination program in pakistan and it's something a prime minister imran khan would look set to show interest in killing people by these drones basically sitting on a screen and eliminating people. dehumanizing them treating them. as if you know from some other planet not giving them a basic right of proving their innocence i mean it violates all norms of justice imran khan has even threatened to shoot down the drones of danger nations and while the u.k. aided drone assassinations to raise a maze former leader david cameron blamed pakistan we want to see
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a strong and stable and a democratic pakistan but we cannot tolerate in any sense the idea that this country is allowed to look both ways and is able in any way to promote the export of terror while u.k. tory politicians blame the two hundred million strong nuclear armed nation of pakistan for promoting terror pakistan has allied itself with russia but as you say because they have to look at now should you go to see if we can stand them you know it's working for. me it is a bust this year you know it's that used during the last two years. engagement the district level has been of great value to us and we value this pollution shit very deeply it's not just we are in bricks that pakistan is militarily allied to it's also the sea communist china the increasingly tough talk by the trumpet ministration to pakistan seems to have pushed pakistan to concede more to china
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according to the latest information china is likely to bear a joint new birds. and police ads are vital in pakistan the city in order has been touted as second mickey being in a foreign country after the birth it has supported so how close were pakistan's ties to china and russia b. what now for pakistan ruled by human cohen joining me is a former pakistani minister of state name the zamindar name thanks so much for joining us from san francisco how closely tied to brics will the future of pakistan be under iran can or perhaps any prime minister i believe that the days will be close and will be growing closer because i'm just not sure graphical proximity and opportunity especially with beck right with china be. and you know what the largest economic opportunities of our time economy is going to grew from twelve trillion dollars to forty trillion dollars over the next twenty five years is a massive growth opportunity to sort of plug into and be
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a part of so i there's no two ways about it that this is one of the big economic opportunity for pakistan yaks speaking to you from britain we're talking about managing decline arguably post bricks at least that's what the remain is a saying but you mention chinese and a bit like imran khan yourself imran khan mentioned china seven times in the context of lifting hundreds of millions out of poverty which of course has occurred under the government of the communist party in beijing i mean it has to be the clear driving better that's the reason why i came to guard because i clearly pakistan is a country with a lot of potential and there's no reason why the us you know we're twenty percent or more of your population is below the poverty line that has to change and we're going to live these people are about it and we have great economic potential we have all the resources it's just been bad management over the years lot of challenges in our many wars on our borders and with you know with our neighbors and
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we are now ready for change we are ready for prosperity through brady for. a country where which which realizes its potential so see this is perspective a finance minister talked about as being it as i do ma says when you were a minister and when you were in the trade department eight billion dollars fled to dubai. things are going normally wrong in vegas for that may be true but there was a you know invest you know takes a long time for a bunch of credibility right for many years the whole war in afghanistan i was affected by box i was badly bullied by you know incidences of terrorism and we were probably the biggest we were huge. six or sixty thousand people lost lives in pakistan right it look so it took many years to clear that out to make pakistan a safe place and it's happening now is much safer is safer than the united states for that matter right. in terms of violent deaths so we've done the hard work
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moving towards a peaceful environment and i think iran's job will be to to make sure that we and we are able to and he said it clearly that he wants to have peace with its neighbors it is important or before this new party run cons came about britain which presumably wants to benefit from this growth that you have five percent apparently now it blamed pakistan for promoting terror we have david cameron tourism oh it maes old boss saying that and obviously britain has been providing intelligence on bombing your country how well will britain be placed in this future of yours we've been part of the commonwealth. we have a long history with with british and and close ties with it so we don't you know we really want to focus on building a country right and creating prosperity for our people and treat is going to be
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important we want investment from britain lot of you know britain has a very large a buck a sunday sport of there and what. we think the biggest opportunity for us is to tap into our diaspora that a man million people of bucks on a region outside of pakistan that's a massive market option generally and many of them have done really really well so not only do they bring top. but also nor how to be able to do good this economy in the new digital age i should say america and said something like that to me when i interviewed him but he also said in the same breath that britain shouldn't be involved in the drone killing of people in pakistan do you think imran khan will make britain's involvement in the drone campaign in pakistan an issue in terms of any trade like an exit for us for pakistan making sure that we have a country which is at peace with the self and its neighbors is extremely important and whatever it takes to make that happen is what iran can be said to right is make
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sure the box on is a safe place. and. i think that's what's his focus is going to be you can't keep bombing people right and think that they're done to peaceful people it just a are i'm a person who clearly believes that we need to be able to negotiate we need to create find a settlement and solve the problem rather than you know squash it to being a systems as one of britain's biggest companies you're saying britain could make more money using its diaspora trading with pakistan than building weapons through use against pakistan. absolutely not pakistan it has a g.d.p. of about three hundred billion dollars i'm sure that all the next twenty years you can accord lupul it is very easy to upgrade the country with a very low base you know. we are the fifth largest country in the world into the bottle ation but we have what is your point three percent of the g.d.p. share which is a bare a very small starting from bay low point and and it's very easy to now build upon
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it but it has to be said nato nation media are saying and as i suppose it's your legacy as being in senior positions there in the government it's a basket case economy and brics nation media are all talking about the possibility of new trade ties and and link ups in the business world where why the mismatch i don't think there's a mismatch i think we being a basket case it just takes a long time to really you know get your act together things started improving quite a bit over the last few years you moving in the right trajectory our growth or it over the last over the last five years has gone up from three percent to five point eight percent so the momentum is in the right direction which is due to build upon it people know already some analysts know that the i.m.f. can be problematic what do you make of the rumors that imran khan could make a twelve million dollar bailout presumably he would say it people like you that are the problem which is why he needs the bailout. what do you think of that i think
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there's a lot at stake and we do need a bailout we do need to do to find a solution and we need to make sure that we have the right negotiating position and therefore creating as many options is important to be able to negotiate effectively and because you know once we get a bill out we little bit of risk a room right we can grow there's a lot of investment willing to come out about last year we did less than three billion dollars of f.d.r. coming to baucus on i think that number can go to ten fifteen billion dollars over the next two years the russians have. still aggressively bugs they've invested in the largest telecom company the chinese are very large investors in the line of and chinese investors entering the pakistan at this point so that the potential is phenomenal to get a bit of that but you know the sheer rusher in china when they invest in pakistan they don't tell you to privatized your entire economy which the i.m.f. historically has done so if you're in the government benefit me who knows you may
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be selected this week what would you be advising look east look west or just be careful all around look everywhere right work with everyone eat to work with the world to create a more prosperous pakistan that should be a clear focus the east and the brics ugly you know far more lined at this point there's a strong interest and they're willing to look beyond you know the headline around terrorism and all the stuff and they see the potential and they look beyond the risk the scene the change happen on the ground and potential foreign minister thank you thank you after the break if everyone lived like you how many earths would we need to sustain life we speak to the global footprint network about why the first of all just is a dark day for humanity and from the trees headlines we're trying to trillion people in yemen at risk of death and starvation why the world turning a blind eye told us the more coming up in part two of going.
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