i think that's what's his focus is going to be you can't keep bombing people right and think that they're done to peaceful people it just a are i'm a person who clearly believes that we need to be able to negotiate we need to find a settlement and solve the problem rather than you know squash it being a systems is one of britain's biggest companies you're saying britain could make more money using its diaspora trading with pakistan than building weapons to use against pakistan. absolutely not pakistan it has a g.d.p. of about three hundred billion dollars i'm sure that all the next twenty years you can record ruble it is very easy to upgrade the country with a very low base you know. we are the fifth largest country in the world into the bottle ation but we have what is your point three percent of the g.d.p. share which is a bear a very small study drawn by a low point and and it's very easy to now build upon it but it has to be said nato nation media are saying and as i suppose it's your legacy is being in senior

positions there in the government it's a basket case economy and brics nation media are all talking about the possibility of new trade ties and and link ups in the business world where why the mismatch i don't think there's a mismatch i think we being a basket case it just takes a long time to really you know get your act together things started proving quite a bit over the last few years you're moving in the right trajectory are brought to it over the last over the last five years it's gone up from three percent to five point eight percent so the momentum is in the right direction which is due to build upon it people know already some analysts know that the i.m.f. can be problematic what do you make of the rumors that imran khan could take a twelve million dollar bailout presumably he would say it people like you that are the problem which is why he needs the bail or. what do you think of that i think there's a lot at stake and we do need a bailout we do need to do to find a solution and we need to make sure that we have the right negotiating position and

therefore creating as many options is important to be able to negotiate effectively and because you know once we get a bill out we little bit of risk a room right we can grow there's a lot of investment willing to come in a box on last year we did less than three billion dollars of f.d.r. coming to baucus on i think that number can go to ten fifteen billion dollars or the next two years the russians have been. still aggressively bugs they've invested in the largest telecom company the chinese a very large investors in the line of into chinese investors entering in pakistan at this point so that the potential is phenomenal to get a bit of that but you know the sheer rusher in china when they invest in pakistan they don't tell you to privatizing our entire economy which the i.m.f. a story we have done so if you're in the government benefit me who knows you may be selected this week. what would you be advising look east look west or just be

careful all around look everywhere right work with everyone eat to work with the world to create a more prosperous pakistan that should be a clear focus the east and the brics ugly you know far more like at this point there's a strong interest and they're willing to look beyond you know the headline around terrorism and all the stuff and they see the potential and they look beyond the risk the scene the change happen on the ground and potential foreign minister thank you. thank you after the break if everyone lived like you have any other switch we need to sustain life we speak to the global footprint network about why the first of all is a dark day for humanity and from the stories headlines with twenty two million people in yemen at risk of death and starvation watch the world turning a blind eye all this and more coming up a block to a going underground. that

. we were. all day we're in this all of this. growth. and. welcome back joining me now to go through some the week's headlines his book us for former liberal democrat minister of state in the home office when to resume was home secretary david cameron's coalition government norman bacon norman thanks for coming back on it was when you were in government we had all this ridiculous transparency legislation one outlet the big oligarchs would have been to fund

a think tank and then there's no obligations and you can lobby ministers and i don't know you've chosen this story so i don't know what you think of it let's go to it on the go they had long to go. faces double investigation after cash for access claims on the point for me here really is that this is a charity the year is a charity and then the charitable rules are obliged to be neutral the institute for economic affairs with what appears to be happening here and due to some footage of it. is that they're offering cash taxes to businesses effectively deny that they did better in the video speaks for itself as a matter of fact burey is to suggest engaging in any kind of cash crisis system what's the video actually to your viewers because they'll see the facts for themselves but also they also his report on casinos recently and they got eight thousand pounds in the casino industry so they appear to be willing to say almost what's required of them in order to bring money in because you know capitalism they were related to. free market economics it's no coincidence that there was sort of

the charity of those who pay the bill get the reports to say what they want to say this is this is a bit spiritus because i think what you should have to have is if people want to argue for a particular case that's great but if they want to have the cloak of neutrality which a charity gives and then to try to maneuver behind the scenes to get to say what it wants to say that's not right and i know my little bit actually my little world who's the director here. of the i.a.e.a. used to be very high up in a live debt and he had a strange change of belief when he left the dams and joined other organizations so you must of see the light no doubt other than that the only explanation is he was saying what he was paid to say yes well obviously read invite him littlewood on maybe that is a deep philosophical appeared for me that he had since perhaps is leaving them let's go to the murdoch son there murdock's on yet diabetes scare diabetics like to reason may will struggle to get into the event of new deal breaks are just about

from paralysed and from a pharmaceutical conference i was addressing and there's a religious issue here about access to pharmaceuticals first of all whether or not those which have been approved either by britain for the e.u. or elsewhere in the e.u. will be available in both segments outside the e.u. and in britain secondly whether or not the. form as it was coming forward can be approved properly and quickly and certainly pushes us for it to the store your canada are months behind even getting approval for some medicines or because the. problem but thirty this issue about trade and this is perhaps the the sun concentrating on this you know dover sees seventy percent of our trade comes through that port the estimate is that two minutes actually delay for a lorry which is nothing and there could be three hundred million more costs and checks a year by the way a two minute delay will cause a twenty mile tailback in. minutes just two minutes i mean rick city as well we can just say that conference was about problems with european union validation of new

drugs and access to it when we're out of it we can go to whichever country we want i should say the health sector med hang dog that has worked with the industry just stockpile drugs right now where maybe if you were to me that lori problem and the companies they know exist there's significant problems a dollar expected in the event of a new deal to raise it may we'll get your meds in to be able to continue because in the summer these pharmaceuticals have got a shelf life and they go off into the required temperature control is no guarantee that that will be maintained that required to that's again what. they are looking at but obviously this debate runs it british civic society let's go to far more serious at least at the present time the story u.n. news yes who data one airstrike away for months talkable epidemic says the u.n. humanitarian chief in yemen and britain is selling arms at the moment we used on yemen yet to understand bombing of yemen this week was

a couple of things first of all why is it that the world's by and large has inherited this appalling catastrophe you see news coverage blanket news coverage almost of forest fires in america well i'm very sorry for those being caught up in those fires but actually frankly we're talking about twenty two million people here at risk of death or starvation in yemen compared to a handful frankly in america who may have lost their lives new life is insignificant but in terms of the scale of it yemen is far more significant than what's happening you see the british game. again says when people like jeremy corbin and you leave to talk about this issue that we need intelligence gathering with the saudis relationship with them of course saudi arabian bombers are bombing data this is this is the real importance and when britain takes over the presidency of the un security council presumably this will be the point made by the british government you will point you know the issue is we're supposed to be able to influence our friends this is a argument for having relations with unsavory regimes and where is your influence

britain showing now in society actually what's happening is we are covering our mouths and saying nothing about the appalling activities that saudi regime whatever side you take in yemen what's happening here is uncontrolled bombing of civilians causing multiple deaths and starvation that cannot be allowed to continue and the fact is that whenever there's a problem in saudi arabia we in the west keep quiet about it i don't know why we do that to such an extent but we do it's been the same for thirty forty fifty years well we invite the headmaster for saudi arabia to london on this program to try and refute a geisha is made but arguably the big story here and in the united states is the fact that donald trump is a russian spy a although your next story seems to suggest there is more to interference in the us elections than most israeli intervention in the us elections vastly overwhelms everything russia has done claimed chomsky up well the difference is of course that the israeli involvement in the us which he refers to quite

correctly is quite open we we saw a netanyahu bypass barack obama very rudely as a matter of fact i'm going to dress both houses of congress to rubbish the forthcoming at that point to run and you clearly is a think tank that the charity that he really lobbying for the difference is that with israel you probably know what's going on which is on savory in my view but with the russians and others and the chinese we don't know what's going on behind the scenes norman beggared thank you. well today marks of earth day the day when humanity has used more natural resources the planet can renew and in time again this year the day falls earlier than ever signifying when i using one point seven times the earth's resources per year the date was calculated by the environmental think tank global footprint network its president is mathes work in a goal and he joins me now via skype from oakland in california thanks for having coming on before we get to overshoot day what about these fires that are making

headlines right around the world in california yeah to having a heat wave around to worry that's affecting california as well with more forest fires and it seems that the forest fires are extending that seasons as well in california last december we had a big forest fire and normally we don't have forest fires in december so the heat is up well let's get to other overshoot day which is always related environmentalist certainly argue and scientists and maybe not your ahead of environmental protection agency up until recently food water carbon land how do you arrive at the fact that today is the day we use what should be using in a year we are simple pedestrian icon just instead of money the physical resources we add up all the beans to potatoes the origins that be used the space needed for c o two sequestration everything be used for nature and see how much space is needed to support that and then we can compare that with how much

productive space is available on the planet and so we can make the balance and say how quickly are we using our renewable resources compared to what earth can regenerate. and as a humble accountant and his humble account of the do this you identify what you call a giant ponzi scheme. i mean that's what happens if you use more than what you have and say that's normal income that's essentially a ponzi scheme you basically paid the present by depleting the future and that's what we're doing it to logically now it's possible to use more than what you earn financially it's possible to do that ecological a but only for some time because it depletes your assets and that's the trajectory you're on when did we start to overshoot and need in effect. bigger planets or more planets to sustain us. local overshoot has happened over human history and has depleted areas but the first time we've moved into global overshoot the first time the human demand

exceeded what the entire biosphere can redo was indeed early seventy's and by now it has inched up and right now we are at one point seven planets according to the data it varies nationally by quite a lot cuba vietnam doing best count on the united states among those who do the would just so there's a huge disparity in resource allocation as it were using the un data set and we'd do the accounting around that data and there's a huge just discrepancy between countries all because some countries use far fewer resources than others the point is that if everybody for example live like united states it would take about four or five planet earth if everybody had like me to because i fly around a lot takes about five planets as well even to a bicycle to work and work or use vegetarian food etc but still it adds up. and

it's not necessarily correlate to the ridge the country has it's presumably the way systems work within those countries you've said that it's it's politics more than individual consumer policies that are required for the change that you think isn't necessary i mean the big question is and that's also at the source of sustainable development goals for example is how can we all live well how can we all thrive but there's given that limited budget of the planet and so the question really is how we can organize ourselves there for big thing that we can do to make things much better for example the way we design our cities it does it if the cities are very compact and can be walkable and bicycle then def far if you use far fewer resources than the sprawl cities also the way we run our energy systems to use solar power or coal makes a huge difference that way to produce our food and finally the big factor how many people are weak the more we are up to this last planet. given how this analysis

really brings to bear the urgency of it all on one of those four criteria on energy the paris climate deal which trump obviously is pulling out of the snow in the air enough to sustain the energy component of overshoot day presumably it has to be much more revolutionary change in the past climate deal i would say actually if he'd lived up to the paris climate deal to the goal of the paris climate deal to limit c o two emissions to two degree celsius we would be much better shape we would actually be back to one planet before twenty fifty if you followed that advice but we're not living up to that paris goal that's true globally. and you talk about smart cities and also food not just being a vegetarian food in efficiency supply chains and food waste absolutely i mean

around i mean on energy day are huge gains that we can make i mean if you compare a kilowatt hour electricity produced by coal compared to solar power there are like factor under two hundred three hundred difference per kilowatt hour food is not so squeezable because we need the calories but yes we can go lower on the food chain not as many animal products there's quite a bit of food waste typically typical a in the industrialized world about thirty percent of the food gets wasted and also the way we produce food can be more efficient so that number of ways how we can improve friend and good news also is that the typical made to rate in diet for example the one that is a lot less than on the animal products and more like more and grains and vegetables is healthier and it's very tasty and it's also lower in footprint of course that kind of thing has been said for a good decade maybe maybe two decades or more today the first of august is the earliest it's ever being under your analysis of the overshooting of the earth's

resources that's the question is it a systemic risk or not for example come from switzerland switzerland uses four times more than what its own ecosystems can read you the same is true for the united kingdom uses about four times more than what the u.k. ecosystems can read you into question rate is the question as to the economics and finance ministries is that a risk for the country or not i think it is i think resource security is becoming a driving parameter of economic long term success and be counted switched out from one day to the next because many things that baked into our infrastructure the way we have to build our city our energy system etc the size of the population you cannot switch that fast it's like. driving a supertanker you have to get on the right track and i think that's what's needed not his welcome to go thank you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday to speak to the head of the u.k. funded white helmets about accusations his organization is linked to al qaida but until then you can keep in contact via social media see on saturday ninety four

years to the day that mexico became the first country in the americas to establish diplomatic relations with the new the former u.s.s.r. . on this edition of crossfire we consider one question is donald trump's america first policy in contradiction to the washington consensus idea of american exceptionalism the answer this question will likely define trump's presidency and change the world. i.

mean. america's immigration agency claims police in portland refused to answer a nine one one call. during violent protest against president immigration crackdown also ahead. scenes of. wait for the results of the first free elections in decades the opposition's accusing the ruling party of widespread. this is registration type problem that. the media and the government some extent

are treating it like an us with the lawyer of. the russian woman accused of being a kremlin agent in the us big case is being blown out of all proportion. day in san francisco eight pm in edinburgh ten at night here in moscow this wednesday the first of august welcome to r.t. international first in the u.s. no nine one one help for you if you work for ice the immigration and and customs. horsman agency police in portland in the state of oregon are being accused of refusing to respond to emergency calls from ice agents and said they needed assistance in protests against their agency it's facing a backlash for the way it handles migrants with a balazs ice movement staging protests right across the country reporting from one

of them no kill up marksman. these protesters are part of a national why a campaign all over the country protesters are demanding that this one force an agency that enforces u.s. immigration law be abolished car. car. guy i was in the trunk administration has pursued what i believe is a deeply immoral and haphazard policy that fundamentally betrays american values obviously that's unacceptable and the american people expect better i am to do calling on the architect of this humanitarian disaster department of homeland security secretary cures to nielsen to step down protests like this are happening all over the country and in fact there were protests in portland oregon for up to

a month up to a month leading up to july twenty fifth there were protests outside the ice office in the city of portland oregon a lot of ice employees said that they actually felt threatened by the protesters they said the protesters were menacing them that they were blocking the doors to the building and not enabling them to do their jobs properly kind of interfering with their lives they call the police very frequently now ted wheeler who is the mayor of portland oregon instructed the police department not to respond to the calls from the federal employees in this case i have consistently stated that i do not want the portland police bureau endangered in securing federal property but houses a federal agency with its own federal police force chad wheeler is the mayor of portland oregon which is one of the many cities that are being described as what you call sanctuary cities that are not cooperating with federal immigration officials they're basically defying the federal government not cooperating with it

now u.s. attorney general jeff sessions has ordered the sanctuary cities all across the united states. to start complying with the federal immigration officials but they're refusing to do so now all across the country there have been protests against ice the immigration customs enforcement agency of the united states now many folks who are opposed to donald trump have been calling for this agency to be abolished however there are also going to number of supporters of donald trump who have actually been defending the agency ice has been terrifying more people than they are it's being terrified i'm sorry they're taking kids captive this is our duty to see every human being as a human being not in a way and all the words they use is so racist it's so unfair and i'm sorry i have no sympathy for them they chose this as their job trump is doing what's necessary to make us a country under obama we didn't have a border we had a welcome at. these the illegal

aliens come to here and get everything for free oh my tax dollars ok how do you think about that. political blogger on three brian logan told us he believes that refusing to protect ice agents from harassment is a violation of the u.s. constitution. every person has their right as a u.s. citizen so they're breaking the law they're breaking the constitution and well the case in which they're talking about is is to run on ice agents walking and being harassed by protesters the local police soup most of the protesting and read that in macon a federal government come in and put boots on the ground i think the regular police would be a much better alternative than have been a federal police come in and try to protect the streets i think you will see more conversations like this this is not anything new this is been going on for a little wow ever since trying to get elected and these people are totally

irrational and they're driven largely by the mainstream media as long as the mainstream media is complicit if you can continue to see more things like this unfortunately. police in zimbabwe who reportedly say that three people have been killed after the army opened fire on opposition protesters in the capital tanks moved in as tensions row is over they delayed results of the first election since a long time leader robert mugabe was ousted. i. so far only partial results sound being released but the ruling zanu p.f. party is on course for a parliamentary majority amid claims of vote rigging and voter intimidation e.u. observers have criticised the delay in declaring the final results and will give a further assessment later the presidential election meanwhile the result about

isn't yet the third either but on risk is feared if macao be successor emmerson way stays in power the opposition m.d.c. alliance has already declared its counted it nelson chamisa as the winner. millions were drawn to polling stations on monday turnout is thought to be high around seventy five percent on two first time count the votes are in a close race for the presidency after mugabe was the pows in a military coup in off some his former right hand man. took over and he's being challenge for the top job by. the electoral commission has until saturday to declare the result african affairs expert told us the results will define zimbabwe's relations with the west so future economic development. there are some huge challenges and huge repercussions for whoever wins if. n.b.c. wins. then more than likely the west will be happy.

wins and it's deemed that there were some irregularities the question is if the the west doesn't feel that they've had a fair shake in terms of this election then they could keep the sanctions going they could keep some of the factions that have actually helped or prevented zimbabwe from developing and evolving and for its in a growth to to happen and of course. left in limbo so. i think that these elections are pivotal this is a crossroads and the decisions that are made from there from now on especially that of the presidency mr chairman or mr. would determine whether the west would support their claim. the increasingly volatile upness here in one deprived part it is forcing a migrant support group to end its work their volunteers say the situation in la

chapelle has become explosive they no longer feel safe over the past two years the group has distributed more than two hundred fifty thousand meals and supplies to needy people in the area charlotte dubin city picks up the story. in paris is a gritty eighteenth hante small town hundreds of migrants clustered together on the streets they gather here as it's where food is distributed by a local following tea group but after twenty months solid data to me call wilson looks set to close its doors saying they just can't take anymore. but it's become more tense we're serving around seven hundred breakfasts every day to migrants who live in terrible conditions they have nothing not even tense they sleep on the ground and sometimes woken up by the police early in the morning they kick women used tear gas to move them so when they come to us they're stressed and nervous twice last week we had to stop serving food to let the tension calm down this is something new for us so yes we're stopping migrants have been expelled by

police in this area many times felipe tells me that despite this they come back and every time they do this situation becomes even more desperate from the beginning our mission was to serve hot drinks and bread and we've done this for twenty months every day during the last month or so we started questioning our mission as we don't want to volunteer to be put in danger. who is to blame for this situation for not giving enough help to the migrants on the streets is this the mayor of paris is this the government of france. for us is both the state is responsible for people on the streets for taking in migrants at the same time the authorities in paris are restricting access to water taps in the summer is irresponsible they also have a responsibility towards the miners their miners who you sleep on the street and in the camp of drug addicts me this day nor the parrot administration is doing its job .