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these that are taking this country and the rest of the world over a cliff you know again. the rhetoric is is certainly different but and some of the actions are too i mean i don't think any of us really took seriously that there would be a meeting with kim so soon nothing much came of it and now he wants to meet with the iranian leader a days before in capital letters on twitter threatening and i mean michael how do you explain that or inside just expediency the midterms are just the here and now and worry about the implications later because i mean from the outside looking in this is very confusing and we're supposed to be experts to be able to figure this stuff out go ahead michael. i think one of the hallmarks of trump's foreign policy is that it's trump it's not a collective view of the state department with way and this from d o d and other places and intelligence it's trump. and he's proven to be fairly adept at it so far however you may or may not like the outcomes he's gotten in with korea he's
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reworked trade agreements in europe and elsewhere some of it has been to our total benefit some of it has been a conciliatory benefit. we enjoy a relationship with china we haven't had and maybe ever. i don't know that what he's doing is confusing bad evil wrong or fattening but what i do know is that it's in his head and it's been working with us far. talking diplomatic level and so i'm not prepared to throw it over just because i don't understand no no you know i get on with that which i don't understand i can't i get your point maybe i get your point i mean in the way he sees the world here and his base and i think it may go back to northwood here it seems to me. even a year a year and a half in the dawn of time doesn't have a lot of interest in foreign policy he's made a group of promises on the stump and he's committed to realizing each one of them
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i've never seen it a president so adamant going through his checklist ok is it really he is an idea of american exceptionalism american for us is it really does domestic politics driving it for him. well i think you're right i mean there is a very very great interest in domestic politics and he has made a whole lot of promises and as you say i think the first thing that steve brandon did by the edge of the white house is it's a i've wanted to put up a white board with a whole lot of the promises made and i've stopped taking them all but i think the foreign policy perspective the president has is one of increasing american power and extracting as much value economically commercially financially and so on from allies associated powers and on enemies and i think all that is down to his our long term idea that america has been ripped off and i think if you look at domestic politics then the kind of people you defined as or americans. he basically said he
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would say message that you have been ripped off white american men in particular by women by minorities by immigrants and so on and you lost status of what he's going to do or restore american greatness and again going to john going to jump in here on mailers oh i we have the american i have a large brain reserve sort of after i am very short break we'll continue our discussion on american exceptionalism stay with. him for thank. yous indigenous people as you know we need that the. people of the tree.
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or need. out of a sudden a man just found temple green there was a time. i said i will enter it in the if they will not allow and. if they wish we. had all along a million million in need i'm left i'm not picking on you need to be indicted have you don't mind if you lean on mankind that i think i meet ok one time in the economy i use. most of the people in. that. we were in number one. all day it's clear into us all of this.
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growth. that. you know world of big groups a lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. come across like we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're
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discussing american exceptionalism. ok david you know ever since trump entered the the oval office a lot of it's been trying to understand if there's a rhyme or reason to his foreign policy and i think that even on this program it's kind of coming together it seems to me it's kind of like going back to the nineteenth century great powers competition without all the values that they were pushed since the second world war it just it's just really kind of brute power and advantage and looking for competitive advantage and it's very brusque and it seems to appeal just as interesting pointed out to us in the first part of the program it does appeal to his base go ahead david. yeah i think you know it appears to be all donald trump but just as you know reagan and gorbachev came out of the meeting and were told by their advisers no no no you can't get rid of nuclear weapons every
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time trump has a good idea like get rid of now after nato he talks to his advisors and it's off the table i think that you know it was actually an actual break with u.s. exceptionalism is not on the agenda of donald trump or his advisors i mean it would look like joining the international criminal court joining the convention on the rights of the child joy in the united states is party to fewer major human rights treaties then almost any other nation on earth it would mean giving up the veto at the united nations it would mean getting out of afghanistan there's a promise i'd like to keep i mean this is a guy who promised no more of these wars and their family you know killed their families bombed the bleep out of them so it's easy to say he's keeping his promise because he promised black and white but the ones i'd like him to keep he's not keeping as well. as you know off you like building the wall and walking up hilary that i don't necessarily need him to keep either but this is not this is
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a guy who thinks he's running the world and it's dangerous to what extent he is but he's not overruling the weapons dealers or the big players in washington d.c. you know yeah michael that seems to be very contradictory because he said in interviews that the united states shouldn't be the policeman of the world but in fact it remains the same ok am particularly you know i mean if you look at the korean peninsula i mean a peace between the koreas denuclearization maybe the american troops could go home there'd be no reason from the be there and then the entire foreign policy elite has their hair on fire like oh my god please don't let it break out it will change our world ok i mean it seems to me he's just going really up against the street you know against the the stream there and he keeps coming out with these ideas i mean you know i said earlier i mean you know threatening iran in the most course way and then say i'd like to meet you in no condition preconditions i mean the outside
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looking in finds that very very confusing i mean the rains have already said through their aides is that while we sit down with someone that broke a country that broke a treaty that we just signed only a few years ago i mean i how does that show that america leading go ahead michael. you know it wasn't a treaty and they didn't sign anything but that's that's a semantic problem we have been able to know well it's an international has agreed i mean no they were it was a it's multilateral it wasn't just with the americans ok go ahead. but i think the the the the point you're making is good and it's correct but if it stops and i think that's what we have to focus on is that the goals his foreign policy goals are as the professor correctly observed although i think for two reasons different than he observes that and that is that we are interested in better trade we are interested in exercising our trade power and to increase american presence and wealth at home american exceptionalism america first through trade treaties
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through trade work as opposed to naked aggression and use of foreign power which other presidents have used obama was soundly criticized on the right for wanting to meet with the iranians with no preconditions i find it interesting that my brothers on the right don't have a problem with trump doing the same thing i just i just throw that out as an observation well i mean i think that you know but michael's back to hang on hang on but hang on michael i mean and in the same week basically threatening hostilities with the rand and then saying you want to meet with preconditions you don't have to worry about your friends on the left or right you have to try to figure out what the president is talking about ok that's not my point and you know this was the same. you know your point is right but this is the same tactic we took with north korea you know little camera man blah blah blah you know terrible person going to face the earth you know boss office or the next thing in our meeting in singapore this is the art of the deal this is a part of the tactics of moving forward this is part of the noise involved in
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making the deal and making the negotiation and doing the work and it's trump he is unique he is rare he is something we haven't seen before the swamp can't make head or tail out of them and nor can anyone else and this goes back to my earlier point which was just buckle up just as you've observed many times peter buckle up and you're just going to have to wait to see how a poilus out and response will do their best to keep their arm around it i just don't know how it's going to work out ok brace for impact ok let me go back to you here then and then ok so what is the justification for the united states being in afghanistan it's not bringing democracy there anymore apparently what what what how is what's the justification for the in the eagle behavior of the united states in syria or is it bringing democracy there anymore it's not apparently so why are they still there so i mean this makes it very patently obvious that just brute force beyond international law this is what trumpet is opening up to go ahead. well i
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think you know when we look at the big picture of little change we have our whole range of new emerging powers some of which are very. recent military and they're looking around the world resources and they're looking to increase their him in order to protect their lines of communication china for example is building the one built one road initiative which is going to be under right across from china all the way to spain and in the indian ocean you've got non-state actors like isis and other organizations also challenging these. allies and other regimes as well and i think what really president trump is trying to do is it effectively grapple with the same problem. which post-hole or presidents of. to try to outline which is the whole world environment has changed the big difference i think with president from is he doesn't really look at the idea. of building an orderly system or ordered
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a rules based system or rather he wants to open it up you want to loosen it up and he wants to make it more transactional but i think what he's trying to do it's look we've got this big international series of regime it's america's been ripped off it's own too much it's has too many large deficits with everybody and what we're going to do is we're going to let national spirit and try to renegotiate our position and effectively of ordinates everybody else ok i'm not going to be the big grown ok again like i said when it looks like it's going back to the great powers of the nineteenth century without all of the rhetoric at least it's more transparent david you you mentioned russia is it really worth it for trump to go down this path that we had the helsinki summit i was critical of the president's delivery at the press conference like i was in singapore is well it's not his forte it's got to work on his game there and then he wanted another summit and then what
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blocked it back the russians and invited him to moscow why is this so important to him is it a campaign promise or is it just you know the media hates it when he does it and that he just pushes back to show that i am president i'm going to do what i want to do what is his fascination here go ahead david. well i think there is is all kinds of pressure on him to meet with and work with russia and to not do so and to treat russia as having attacked the united states and started a war and to engage in war with russia and everywhere in between i think that it's appropriate that the united states and russia as the major nuclear weapons powers meet and get rid of those damn things before they destroy us i think it's critical for the united states and russia as two of the nations doing the most to destroy our natural environment to meet and start reversing all the policies david that's
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not so much on the agenda. i mean complete agreement with you in on this they would they would have why it seems to me that. trump engagement with russia should come out very clear twitter is fine with me i need to deal with a lot of your putin to sign a new arms control agreement it's about to expire in two thousand and twenty one this is what's most important to all of humanity why can't he just write that i mean that is very straightforward and you know what david it's transactional what trump is supposed to be all about go ahead david well it would make perfect sense it would fit with some of his agenda of body it is not where he comes from it's not something he knows anything about it's not something he's hired anybody to keep around him who would advise him to do and it's you know the got the us media and the democrats and half the public screaming at him not to do anything cooperative with russia even if it kills us all so it's not shocking that he hasn't
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come out with that position of but he should heat. and the world and russia should be pushing him in that direction ok all right michael. where does he go from this from his russia gambit now i mean he's put it off until next year because of the midterm. it's because he can't do anything transactional because just like david said perfect crystal clear even trying to save humanity he's the bookie man donald trump is evil incarnate even if he wants to save humanity that's a problem in the united states that's a problem with american exceptionalism forty seconds to you michael my friend last word. real quick and i promise to stay and save my time what the trump never telegraphs what he's going to do will make promises in a campaign context he'll have elude to things in a domestic policy context he's never going to say up front what he's going to do
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it's one of his huge criticisms of his predecessors and so because he hasn't said it's there doesn't mean it's not going to be there and he's had some surprises foreign policy wise stuff no one expected but it was always part of his design and i think that we just have to buckle up in a way well you know that's why i call you one of my donald trump sharper as that was a very good answer i like that that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests in washington charlottesville and in north and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time and remember. this is kentucky. we. want to see you going to find the.
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money since he was almost no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the phone lines are said. and it was love to see these people this of five years of disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's how it's happened. church secret indeed catholic priests accused of sexually abusing children can get
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away with it literally i like to call this the do graphic solution so what the bishop needs to do then he finds out that the priest is is a perpetrator is simply moves him to a different spot where the previous standard is not. highest ranks of the catholic church conceal the accused priests from the police and justice so something that is so good as the i intend to include at tuesday's out and. this. is fed. by. the law.
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that. america's immigration agency claims police in portland refused to answer nine one one call the. curing violent protests against president trumped immigration crackdown also ahead. the scenes of protest in zimbabwe's capital during an anxious wait for the result. the first free elections in decades the opposition's accusing the ruling party of widespread fraud. this is a registration type of crime that has been in the media and the government some
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extent are treating it like an espionage with the lawyer all. the russian woman accused of being a kremlin agent in the us tells our t.v. a case is being thrown all proportion. from moscow to the world this is our to international my names you know neal hello and welcome to the program first in the u.s. no nine one one help for you if you work for ice the immigration and customs enforcement agency police in portland in the state of oregon are being accused of refusing to respond to emergency calls from ice agents who said they needed assistance to handle violent protests against their agency it's facing a backlash for the way it handled migrants with an abolish ice movement staging protests across the country and now reports from one of them. these protesters are
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part of a national why campaign all over the country protesters are demanding that this one force an agency that enforces u.s. immigration law be abolished car. guy i was in the trunk administration has pursued what i believe is a deeply immoral and haphazard policy that fundamentally betrays american values obviously that's unacceptable and the american people expect better i am to do calling on the architect of this humanitarian disaster department of homeland security secretary cures to nielsen to step down protests like this are happening all over the country and in fact there were protests in portland oregon for up to
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a month up to a month leading up to july twenty fifth there were protests outside the ice office in the city of portland oregon a lot of ice employees said that they actually felt threatened by the protesters they said the protesters were menacing them that they were blocking the doors to the building and not enabling them to do their jobs properly kind of interfering with their lives they called the police very frequently now ted wheeler who is the mayor of portland oregon instructed the police department not to respond to the calls from the federal employees in this case i have consistently stated that i do not want the portland police bureau in gaged and securing federal property but houses a federal agency with its own federal police force chaired wheeler is the mayor of portland oregon which is one of the many cities that are being described as what you call sanctuary cities that are not cooperating with federal immigration officials they're basically defying the federal government not cooperating with it now u.s. attorney general jeff sessions has ordered the sanctuary cities all across the
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united states. to start complying with the federal immigration officials but they're refusing to do so now all across the country there have been protests against ice the immigration customs enforcement agency of the united states now many folks who are opposed to donald trump have been calling for this agency to be abolished however there are also going to number of supporters of donald trump who have actually been defending the agency ice has been terrifying more people than they are it's being terrified i'm sorry they're taking kids captive this is our duty to see every human being as a human being not in a way and all the words they use is so racist it's so unfair and i'm sorry i have no sympathy for them they chose this as their job trump is doing what's necessary to make us a country under obama we didn't have a border we had a welcome at. these illegal and
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leah's country and get everything for free oh my tax dollars ok how do you think about that. whole political blogger on for me brian logan told us he believes that refusing to protect ice agents from harassment is a violation of the u.s. constitution. every person has their right as a u.s. citizen so they're breaking the law they're breaking the constitution well the case in which they're talking about is to randomize agents walking and being harassed by protesters the local police supra it most of the protest and read that in macon a federal government come in and put boots on the ground i think the regular police would be a much better alternative then haven't a federal police come in and try to protect the streets i think he would see more conversations like this this is not anything new this is going on for a little wow ever since trying to get elected and he's people are totally
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irrational and they're driven largely by the mainstream media as long as the mainstream media is complicit in days you can continue to see more things like this unfortunately. moving to africa where police in zimbabwe reportedly say that three people have been killed after the army opened fire on opposition protesters in the capital tanks moved in as tensions rose over the delayed results of the first elections since a long time leader robert mugabe was ice that. i. so far only partial results being released but the ruling party is on course for a parliamentary majority amid claims of vote rigging and voter intimidation e.u. observers have criticized the delay in declaring the final results on will give a further assessment later the presidential election result isn't yet declared
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either but on rest is the successor emerson. stay in power the opposition m.d.c. alliance has already declared its candidates nelson chamisa as the winner when millions were drawn to polling stations on monday turn i'd thought to be around seventy five percent to first time counted it's are in a close race for the presidency after mugabe was the posed in a military coup in the autumn his former right hand man. took over on this being challenge for the top job by chinese or the electoral commission has until saturday to declare the result african affairs expert iow johnson told us the results will define zimbabwe's relations with the west and its own future economic development. there are some huge challenges and huge repercussions for whoever wins if. n.b.c. wins. then more than likely the west will be happy.
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wins and it's deemed that there were some irregularities the question is if the the west doesn't feel that they've had a fair shake in terms of this election then they could keep the sanctions going they could keep some of the factors that have actually helped or prevented zimbabwe from developing and evolving and for its in growth to to happen and of course. left in limbo so. i think that these elections are pivotal this is a crossroads and the decisions that are made from there from now on especially that of the presidency mr chairman or mr. would determine whether the west would support their claim. or i moving on where twitter has again find itself at the center of the debates over censorship the latest controversy comes after it imposed a twelve hour suspension on austin peterson a republican candidate in the u.s.
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state of missouri senate race for what it described as abusive behavior a suspension came after a writer for the left leaning sure blue website drew a link between peterson's acceptance of big calling for a campaign financing and the alleged russian hacking of a democratic senator petersen responded to that with a gift featuring joseph stalin some users flag candidates post fence of and it was subsequently deemed to have violated twitter's rules but the image was actually from the platforms own collection can be found on its database well twitter say's the tweet amounted to target harassment which it sais is often used to silence voices on the platform but austin peterson claims there was more to this suspect. three different emails were sent to me about this saying that i had not done anything wrong mysteriously two days later the ban was issued it almost seems as
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though something had gone on behind the scenes and that this would this was an attempt to suppress my speech during a critical election and it is quite ironic because my response was a was a picture of joseph stalin which was meant to be humorous saying off the gulag and then of course they mass reported me as if i have access to a gulag here in the state of missouri that i could that could be a credible threat when mr peterson's bond comes out twitter brings together a special research team to come back prejudice and promote what it defines as collective health and openness on its platform but the plan seems to be causing controversy with the assemble a team already being accused of a strong antti trump bias. why donald trump really can trump donald.

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