to use against. absolutely not pakistan it has a g.d.p. of about three hundred billion dollars i'm sure that all the next twenty years you can record ruble it is very easy to a trade with a country with a very low base you know. we are the fifth largest country in the world into the bottle ation but we have what is your point three percent of the g.d.p. share which is a bear a very small study from a low point and and it's day easy to now build upon it but it has to be said nato nation media are saying and i suppose it's your legacy as being in senior positions there in the government it's a basket case economy and brics nation media are all talking about the possibility of new trade ties and and link ups in the business world where why the mismatch i don't think there's a mismatch i think we being a basket case it just takes a long time to really you know get your act together things started proving quite a bit over the last few years moving in the right trajectory are brought to it over

the last over the last five years it's gone up from three percent to five point eight percent so the momentum is in the right direction which is due to build upon it people know already some analysts know that the i.m.f. can be problematic what do you make of the rumors that imran khan could take a twelve million dollar bailout presumably he would say it people like you that is the problem which is why he needs the bailout. what do you think of that i think there's a lot at stake and we do need a bailout we do need to do to find a solution and we need to make sure that we have the right negotiating position and therefore creating as many options is important to be able to negotiate effectively and because you know once we get a bill out we little bit of risk a room right we can grow there's a lot of investment willing to come to boston last year we did less than three billion dollars of f.d.r. coming to baucus on i think that number can go to ten fifteen billion dollars over

the next two years the russians have been. still aggressively bugs they've invested in the largest telecom company the chinese are very large investors in the line of into chinese investors entering the pakistan at this point so that the potential is phenomenal to get a bit of that but you know that russia and china when they invest in pakistan they don't tell you to privatized your entire economy which the i.m.f. historically has done so if you're in the government benefit me who knows you may be selected this week what would you be advising look east look west or just be careful around look everywhere right work with everyone you meet to work with the world to create a more prosperous pakistan that should be a clear focus the east and the brics. you know far more lined at this point there's a strong interest and they're willing to look beyond you know the headline around terrorism and all this stuff and they see the potential and they look beyond the risk the scene the change happen on the ground and potential foreign minister thank

you thank you after the break if everyone lived like you how many earths would we need to sustain life we speak to the global footprint network about why the first of all just is a dark day for humanity and from the streets headlines we're trying to tripoli and people in yemen at risk of death and starvation why the world turning a blind eye to all this and more coming up in part two of going underground. join me every first day on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking together for the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. on this edition of crossfire we consider one question is donald trump's america first policy in contradiction to the washington consensus idea of american exceptionalism the answer this question will likely define presidency and change

the world. he gave his camera. roughly once they showed some leaves for them. videos and some of them with the up eastern. down more on string i don't rightly don't t.v. . welcome back joining me now to go through something like sidelines his book us or former liberal democrat minister of state to the home office when to resume was home secretary david cameron's coalition government norman bacon norman thanks for coming back on it was when you were in going to government we had all this ridiculous transparency legislation one outlet the big oligarchs would have been to fund a think tank and then there's no obligations and you can lobby ministers and now i don't know you've chosen this story so i don't know what you think of it let's go to it on the go the headline for the guardian is think tank faces double

investigation after cash for access claims on the point for me here really is that this is a charity the are you as a charity and then the charitable rules are obliged to be neutral the institute for economic affairs with what appears to be happening here and due to some footage of it is that they're offering cash taxes to businesses effectively deny that they did better in the video speaks for itself as a matter of fact your ears to suggest engaging in any kind of cash crisis system what's the video actually to your viewers because they'll see the facts for themselves but also they also just report on casinos recently and they got eight thousand pounds in the casino industry so they appear to be willing to say almost what's required of them in order to bring money in because you know capitalism they were related to. free market economics it's no coincidence that there was sort of the charity of those who pay the bill get the reports to say what they want to say this is this is

a bit spiritus because i think what you should have to have is if people want to argue for a particular case that's great but if they want to. of the cloak of neutrality which a charity gives and then to try to maneuver behind the scenes to get to say what it wants to say that's not right and i know my little bit actually my little world who's the director here. of the i.a.e.a. used to be very high up in a live debt and he had a strange change of belief when he left the dems and joined other organizations so you must of see the light no doubt other than that the only explanation is he was saying what he was paid to say yeah well obviously read invite him to the wood on maybe that is a deep philosophical appeared for me that he had since obviously leaving them let's go to the murdoch son there murdock's on yet diabetes scare diabetics like to reason may will struggle to get into the event of a new deal breaks are just about from parallage in from a pharmaceutical conference i was addressing in the center of this issue here about access to pharmaceuticals first of all whether or not those which will be approved

either by britain for the e.u. or elsewhere in the e.u. will be available in both segments outside the e.u. and in britain secondly whether or not the. forms it was coming forward can be approved properly and quickly and certainly places are switzerland stole your canada are months behind the e.u. in getting approval for some medicines or because the problem there but thirty this issue about trade and this is perhaps the the sun concentrating on this you know dover sees seventy percent of our trade comes through that port the estimate is that two minutes extra delay for a lorry which is nothing there could be three hundred million more costs and checks a year by the way a two minute delay will cause a twenty mile tailback in. minutes just two minutes i mean brakes it is well we can just say that conference was about problems with european union validation of new drugs and access to it when we're out of it we can go to whichever country we want i should say the health sector might hang dog that has worked with the industry to

stockpile drugs right now where maybe if you were to me that laurie brought. when the companies say no exist there's significant problems a dollar expected in the event of a new deal to raise it may we'll get your meds in to be able to continue. in the some of these pharmaceuticals have got a shelf life and they go off into the required temperature controls don't guarantee that that will be maintained that require lots again what. they are looking at but obviously this debate runs this it british civic society let's go to far more serious at least at the present time the story u.n. news yes who data one airstrike away for months talkable epidemic says the u.n. humanitarian chief in yemen and britain is selling arms at the moment we don't being used on yemen yet understand bombing of yemen this week with a couple of things first of all why is it that the world by and large has inherited this appalling catastrophe you see news coverage blanket news coverage almost of forest fires in america well i'm very sorry for those being caught up in those

fires but actually frankly we're talking about twenty two million people here at risk of death or station in yemen compared to a handful frankly in america who may have lost their lives new life is insignificant but in terms of the scale of it yemen is far more significant than what's happening you see the british again and again says when people like jeremy corbin and you leave the talk about this issue that we need intelligence gathering with the saudis relationship with them of course saudi arabian bombers are bombing data this is this is the real importance and when britain takes over the presidency of the un security council presumably this will be the point made by the british government you will point you know the issue is we're supposed to be able to influence our friends this is a argument for having relations with unsavory regimes and where is your influence britain showing now in society actually what's happening is we are covering our mouths and saying nothing about the appalling activities that saudi regime whatever side you take in yemen what's happening here is uncontrolled bombing of civilians

causing multiple deaths and starvation. that cannot be allowed to continue and the fact is that whenever there's a problem in saudi arabia we in the west keep quiet about it i don't know why we do that to such an extent but we do it's been the same for thirty forty fifty years well we invite the headmaster of his saudi arabia to london on this program to try and refute the geisha is made but arguably the big story here and in the united states is the fact that donald trump is a russian spy a although your next story seems to suggest there is more to interference in the us elections than most israeli intervention in the us elections vastly overwhelms everything russia has done claimed chomsky well the difference is of course that the israeli involvement in the us which he refers to quite correctly is quite open we we saw a netanyahu bypass barack obama very rudely as a matter of fact i'm going to dress both houses of congress to rubbish the

forthcoming at that point to run and you clearly is a is a think tank and a charity that he really lobbying for the difference is that with israel you probably know what's going on which is on safer in my view but with the russians and others and the chinese we don't know what's going on behind the scenes norman beggared thank you. well today marks of earth day the day when humanity has used more natural resources the planet can renew and in time again this year the day falls earlier than ever signifying when i using one point seven times the earth's resources per year the date was calculated by the environmental think tank global footprint network its president is mathes work in a goal and he joins me now via skype from oakland in california thanks for having coming on before we get to overshoot day what about these fires that are making headlines right around the world in california yeah to having a heat wave around the word that's affecting california as well with more forest

fires and it seems that the forest fires are extending that seasons as well in california last december we had a big forest fire and normally we don't have forest fires in december so the heat is up well let's get to other overshoot day which was related environmentalist certainly argue and scientists and maybe not your ahead of environmental protection agency up until recently food water carbon land how do you arrive at the fact that today is the day we use what should be using in a year we are simple pedestrian account just instead of money the physical resources we add up all the beans to potatoes the origins that be used for the space needed for c o two sequestration everything be used for nature and see how much space is needed to support that and then we can compare that with how much productive space is available on the planet and so we can make the balance and say how quickly are we using our renewable resources compared to what earth can

regenerate. and as a humble accountant and his humble account of the do this you identify what you call a giant ponzi scheme. i mean that's what happens if you use more than what you have and say that's normal income that's essentially a ponzi scheme you basically paid the present by depleting the future and that's what we're doing it to logically now it's possible to use more than what you earn financially it's possible to do it ecological a but only for some time because it depletes your assets and that's the trajectory you're on when did we start to overshoot and need in effect. bigger planets or more planets to sustain us. local overshoot has happened over human history and has depleted areas but the first time we've moved into global overshoot the first time the human demand exceeded what the entire biosphere can redo was in the early seventy's and by now it has inched up and right now we are at one point seven planets according to the

data it varies nationally by quite a lot of cuba vietnam doing best concert in the united states among those who do the would just so there's a huge disparity in resource allocation as it were using the un data set and we do the accounting around that data and there's a huge just discrepancy between countries all because some countries use far fewer resources than others the point is that if everybody for example live like united states it would take about four or five planet earth if everybody had like me to because i fly around a lot takes about five planets as well even to a bicycle to work and work or use vegetarian food etc but still it's up. and it's not necessarily correlate to the rich the country has it's presumably the way systems work within those countries you've said that it's it's politics more than individual consumer policies that are required for the change that you think

is necessary i mean the big question is and that's also at the source of sustainable development goals for example is how can we all live well how can we all thrive but there's given that limited budget of the planet and so the question really is how we can organize ourselves there for big thing that we can do to make things much better for example the way we design our cities it does it if the cities are very compact and can be walkable and bicycle then def far if you use far fewer resources than the sprawl cities also the way we run our energy systems to use solar power or coal makes a huge difference that way be able to use our food and finally the big factor how many people are weak the more we are up with it that's less than it. given how this analysis really brings to bear the urgency of it all on one of those four criteria on energy the paris climate deal with overseas pulling out of the snow in

the air enough to sustain the energy component of overshoot day presumably it has to be much more revolutionary change in the past climate deal i would say actually if he'd lived up to the paris climate deal to the goal of the paris climate deal to limit c o two emissions to two degree celsius we would be much better shape we would actually be back to one planet before twenty fifty if you followed that advice but we're not living up to that paris goal that's true globally. and you talk about smart cities and also food not just being a vegetarian food in efficiency supply chains and food waste absolutely i mean around i mean on energy there huge gains that we can make i mean if you compare a kilowatt hour electricity produced by coal compared to solar power there are like

factor under two hundred three hundred difference per kilowatt hour food is not so squeezable because we need the calories but yes we can go lower on the food chain not as many animal products there's quite a bit of food waste typically typical a and industrialized word about thirty percent of the food gets wasted and also the way be produced food can be more efficient so that a number of ways how we can improve trend and the good news also is that the typical made to rate in diet for example the one that is a lot less than on the animal products and more like more and grains and vegetables is healthier and it's very tasty and it's also lower in footprint of course that kind of thing has been said for a good decade maybe maybe two decades or more today the festival this is the earliest it's ever being under your analysis of the overshooting of the earth's resources that's a question is it a systemic risk or not for example come from switzerland switzerland uses four

times more than what its own ecosystems can read you the same is true for the united kingdom uses about four times more than what the u.k. ecosystems can read you into question rate is the question as to the economics and finance ministries is that a risk for the country or not i think it is i think resource security is becoming a driving parameter of economic long term success and be count switched out from one day to the next because many things are baked into our infrastructure the way the u.s. built our city our energy system etc the size of the population you cannot switch that fast it's like. driving a supertanker you have to get it on the right track early on and i think that's what's needed math is welcome to go thank you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday just speak to the head of the u.k. funded white helmets about accusations his organization is linked to al qaida but until then you can keep in contact via social media see on sunday ninety four years to the day that mexico became the first country in the americas to establish diplomatic relations with the new the former u.s.s.r. .

russia is one of the countries that most buy capacity and all the very high population does that mean russia does need to be concerned about sustainability i would say yes absolutely you are no lock a situation where you have a lot of farm per person so to say you know you have a lot of wealth ecological wealth and but the word is very scarce so that's a huge economic advantage as well and saying wow this is an amazing farm let's look after it well because that's our asset that bush has been able us to live well in the long run. steve is like the ease appendix and you can take your panics out your body and the body continues on it's just an appendage. so this is what people don't understand is that the u.k. leaving the e.u. the e.u. continues on great but if you take the appendix out of the bodies is going to

wither and travel and die because it has nobody to exist anymore and this is what's happening in the u.k. and it's going to be a lot of fun to watch because they spent living beyond their means for so many years now now it's all coming home to roost. this is music apps this is video games this is me i'm sure it's much broader than twitter and google. for the u.s. intel u.s. senate intelligence. the committee considers how to respond to alleged foreign influence within social media and that russia tops the agenda also ahead. of the. scenes of protest in zimbabwe's capital during an anxious wait for the results of the first free elections in decades the opposition is accusing the ruling party of widespread fraud and. deceit the registration thai prime

as. any that the media and the government some extent are treating it like an espionage. while the lawyer for maria the russian woman accused of being a kremlin agent in the us tells r t the case is being blown out of proportion. and broadcast live a director a citizen of this is r.t. international and sean thomas certainly glad to have you with us now a day after facebook took down thirty two fake facebook and instagram accounts in the u.s. senate intelligence committee has held a hearing on how to counter russia and other countries and their alleged attempts to undermine american democracy or cheese and has commentary.

russian information warfare in our own backyard after election day the russian government stepped on the gas the russians in this case and others see us as a cheap date the russian activity seeks to turn the normal differences of opinion among americans into headlines about unbridgeable political divisions the russian government came into the house of the american family. and manipulated us as you might suspect the story goes on the same way we've heard it many times before essentially russia is accused of encouraging controversy in the united states around issues like immigration guns racism and all kinds of other things. by cyber attacks remain us made a core part of moscow's arsenal content is created tested and hosted on platforms such as you tube reddit and pinterest its push to twitter and facebook with their standing audiences in the hundreds of millions and it's targeted at the most receptive this is

a problem of the entire information ecosystem this is cross-platform reddit confirm hundreds of ira created accounts tumblr did it now one thing that's lacking in this report just like in so many other similar reports is that any solid actual evidence . can you estimate the number of americans touched by russian linked activity in this area. you know that is very difficult to do and i'm concerned that even after eighteen months of study we are still only scratching the surface when it comes to russia's information warfare in their effort to influence the american mind apparently the kremlin has one very very powerful weapon. a lot of pride pride related content less news more memes this isn't just a couple of platforms this is music apps this is video games this is me i'm sure

and it's much broader than twitter and google in the portrait that the testimony painted on capitol hill you essentially got the impression that americans minds are very easily manipulated that all it takes to influence the way americans think about world events and politics is to give them a video game on a computer or a meme to look at and all the sudden their minds are changed now repeatedly during the hearings we heard members of congress expressing frustration with the american people saying that they were angry that the american students weren't just listening to what they called the good sources and were instead listening to other other news outlets other other voices expressing different views from there we also heard a call interesting lee for classes on media literacy to be given in american schools so that americans can know what news outlets they should be listening to and what news outlets they should not be listening to. there is

a need to build resilience in target populations this will include long term effort to implement media literacy training and integrate such training into classrooms their e interesting it was quite a day on capitol hill down college author of the book the plot to skate go to russia thinks the idea of u.s. voters being significantly influenced by me should not be taken too seriously. there is a point and the goal of course is to keep the war machine going by continuing to raise the specter of a. russia somehow interfering in our democracy whatever that means but the idea that means in video games and whatever they're pointing to could have any significant influence in our democracy is frankly a joke it's actually very reminiscent of the first cold more where they made outlandish claims like the communists were behind for right in the water this makes no sense at all if you look at dean i did stay so there's hollywood films that have

amazing influence in every country in the world whatever of these means were video games pale in comparison to that of cultural influence of the u.s. yes. there are reports that three people have been killed in zimbabwe after the army opened fire on angry opposition protesters in the capital tanks moved in as tensions it rose over the delayed results of the first elections since a long time leader robert mugabe was ousted. i. so far only partial results have been released but the ruling zanu p.f. party is on course for a parliamentary majority amid claims of vote rigging and voter intimidation e.u. observers have criticized the delay in declaring the final results and will give a further assessment later presidential election result has not been declared

either but unrest is feared if mugabe's successor emmerson. stays in power the opposition m.d.c. alliance has already declared its candidate nelson chamisa as the winner. millions were drawn to polling stations on monday turnout is thought to be around seventy five percent to first time candidates are in a close race for the president mugabe was deposed in a military coup last autumn his former right hand man. took over and is in challenge for the top job by me so the electoral commission has until saturday to declare the result african affairs expert ira johnson told us the results will define zimbabwe's relations with the west and its own future economic development. there are some huge challenges and huge repercussions for whoever wins if. n.b.c. wins. then more than likely the west will be happy if

they've got wins and it's deemed that there was some irregularities the question is if the the west doesn't feel that they've had a fair shake in terms of these elections then they could keep the sanctions going they could keep some of the the factions that have actually helped or prevented zimbabwe from developing an evolving and fights in a growth to happen and of course zimbabwe let's in limbo so i was. bob wins these elections are pivotal this is a crossroads and the decisions that are made from that from now on especially that's over the presidency between is that to me or mr and then god would determine whether the west would support their claim. twitter has again found itself at the center of a debate over censorship of the latest controversy comes after it imposed a twelve hour suspension on austin peterson a republican candidate in the u.s.

state of missouri senate race for what it described as abusive behavior his suspension came after a writer for the left leaning share blue website drooling between petersen's acceptance of bitcoin for campaign financing and the alleged russian hacking of a democratic senator petersen responded to that with a jet featuring joseph stalin some users of flag of the candidates post as offensive and it was subsequently deemed to have violated twitter's rules but the image was actually from the platforms own collection and can be found on its database and twitter says the tweet amounted to targeted harassment which it says is often used as to silence voices on the platform but austin peterson claims there was more to the suspension three different e-mails were sent to me about this saying that i had not done anything wrong mysteriously two days later the band was issued it almost seems as though something had gone on behind the scenes and that

this would this was an attempt to suppress my speech during a critical election and it is quite ironic because my response was a was a picture of joseph stalin which was meant to be humorous saying off the gulag and then of course they mass reported me as if i have access to a gulag here in the state of missouri that i could that could be a credible threat. well mr peterson's ban comes as twitter brings together a special research team to combat to prejudice and promote what it defines as collective health and openness on its platform but plan seems to be causing controversy within the assembled team already being accused of a strong anti trump bias. we need to trump donald. something tells me you will certainly start seeing more republican seeing congress testing the waters and

pushing magazines trump. twenty six the digital team in cambridge on this before the russians figure out who told gates played he's campaigned on facebook. and the team will work on algorithms that root out in the civility and intolerance on twitter and assesses the extent to which people engage with different viewpoints but austin peterson claims the platform despite what it says is actually making a concerted effort to censor certain ideas and talking points we don't have free speech in the united states in order to be able to discuss the whether we have free speech in united states so that we can discuss very controversial things i don't mind if the social media network has a bias i assume a bias but what i prefer is transparency about that bias twitter suppresses conservative and libertarian voices from being able to get their message out

because they have a bias and it's deeply disturbing at a threat to american democracy. police in los angeles california have released a video showing three officers killing a hostage taker armed with a knife as well as the hostage just a bit of warning you might find the following images disturbing. i just. draw. straws i enjoy accuracy to really. sure. of the manage nord repeated demands by police to drop his knife instead he dropped a chair he was using as a shield grabbed the homeless woman and started to cut her throat at that point officers opened fire with shotguns loaded with bean bag rounds killing both people commenting on the incident the los angeles police chief said that aybar view would

determine if the officers acted properly the life of the hostage is is paramount. in protecting that individual from the threat of the assailant and in doing that the balancing act that the officer has is how to protect them by stopping the suspects actions. generally in regards to recruit training we talk about a precise headshot in this instance will look to the the office the officer's actions in the end determining and will make you terminations how it matches up to our training in regards to hostage. he spoke to korea a former new york city police officer he thinks the tragic outcome resulted from a communications failure on the part of the officers that should have only been one should be designated. nap three because when you get three people shouldn't you

going to shoot you're going to shoot a hostage which you sort that just happen because they three different angles you gosh ask coming from three different angles and they were that tight tight window when you look at it from the body camera that i saw my conclusion is that they did they definitely failed to communicate properly to take down that one person should have been able to secure unit kate that they had a clear shot and the i would too should have just been covered would defy arms just think casey dropped tonight or overran it them with the knife but it should have been more communication asked only problem i seem to situation it definitely was a lack of failure to communicate between the three offices that same. turkey's foreign ministry has lambasted that u.s. plans to sanction two turkish government ministers has called on washington to reverse its decision the punitive measures came in response to the detention of an

american pastor in turkey and who brunson is accused of being involved in the attempted coup there about two years ago with more details in washington here is our teeth america. well washington sanctions target two turkish officials number one the justice minister abdul hamid gul and the interior minister silliman solo the white house explained the decision saying that they did not find any evidence implicating pastor brunson calling him a victim treated unfairly by the turkish government but what do the sanctions entail exactly will sarah huckabee sanders explains any property or interest in property of both ministers within u.s. jurisdiction is blocked and u.s. persons are generally prohibited from engaging in transactions with them for some background on bronson he's an american pastor who was detained in twenty six fifteen under suspicions of having links to the movement who orchestrated the cool against air to one he was held for twenty one months in prison until he was placed

under house arrest amid u.s. pressure now the two sides didn't mince their words the u.s. threatened turkey with sanctions and turkey responded saying that they wouldn't bow down to any threats and a president who won and the turkish government i have a message on behalf of the president of the united states of america released pastor andrew bronson now or be prepared to face the consequences it is not suitable to use such language against a country like turkey which is still cooperating with nato with the highest level we don't give any credit to such threatening language they should know our character us turkish relations haven't been so strong lately over the syria conflict turkey's a weapons deals or missile defense deal with russia as well as iranian sanctions so we'll just have to see if turkey does indeed retaliate. mario

made headlines last month after being arrested in the u.s. on charges of acting as a russian agent now there are reports the u.s. senate has agreed to release a transcript of boots in his testimony before the body in response to requests from the justice department and her attorney are to america spoke to boots and his lawyer about the case. well i think if you read the indictment the case is alleged to be an agent over russia who failed to register with the attorney general and so essentially that means is they haven't charged with espionage and if you read the allegations against or know the allegations are parenting spy like about it the sense of the government is conceding that even under their own theory if she had filed a piece of paper with the attorney general's office at the beginning of her trip to america everything she did was legal and so my point is this is more of a registration type crime than a espionage crime and yet the media and the government some extent are treating it like an espionage crime. well i mean i think that that allegation was particularly

damaging to maria because it makes it more like a spy novel and frankly easier for the public to digest and so editors and producers like those kind of allegations because it seems like oh this is more like the red sparrow and that was an allegation that was set forth in a proffer by the government meaning they did not produce evidence to back up that allegation at the time we're still waiting to see that and we're not sure it exists or it exists in any meaningful form in the interim it's very hard to see your client kind of dragged through the mud like this which is why i've been trying to push back on that. south africa's ruling african national congress committed on tuesday to amending the constitution to allow the state to seize land without paying compensation currently over two decades on from the end of apartheid or racial segregation white farmers still own the lion's share of the country's

privately held land and sea had been buying up some of it for redistribution however opinion among lawmakers has shifted and the majority now supports taking land without offering compensation but for that the constitution has to be changed that is the move president obama now wants to push ahead which he says the amendment will help to drive economic growth. the a.n.c. that. reaffirmed its position that a comprehensive land reform program. that and neighborhood access to lead and. economic growth by bringing you more or less and in south africa to fully you. and they were the productive participation of millions more south africans in the corner. plan has been met with sharp criticism from white farmers who are calling catastrophic here and some of the backlash that has happened on mine. and we are

going to live happily ever after south africa doesn't have a line problem it has a political problem this is disgraceful what an appalling situation in south africa where are all those protesters de gea and see explained to you that you won't be own in their land but to obey or antonym from them and one day for free many vans all south african agricultural union leader told us confiscating land will scare off investors. but i do have a huge problem with poverty and unemployment and so as this is a pity that they make these choices because no one will invest in this economy and we need growth to actually address the realities of south africa so we have great concern about this approach already a lot of countries already contact us as an organization and say is that will be the case we are not willing to invest in your country anymore i can give you a lot of examples of people really stop investing in south africa and that's the

starting point of economic growth until now it's the first that they make this promises to the bubbly because they needed for the election i think the if he's busy challenging the do much on the other try to save himself and that is what's going on now. the investigation is underway into the deaths of three russian journalists in the central african republic on tuesday journalist organizations have called on the un to get involved in the investigation the three reporters were killed in an ambush by an identified militia fighters near the town of support people in moscow have been paying their tributes to the slain men laying flowers at a memorial or trees maria for motion i spoke earlier to my colleague shanklin vulgar about what we know so far. what more do we know at this point well definitely a tragic incident and certainly a great loss for all journalistic community first of all what we know so far

officially is that they're dead bodies were discovered by u.n. peacekeeping person hour some twenty five kilometers north of the central city of seabird. on the road and abandoned car was also discovered at the same with multiple gunshots yes it looks like the crew was attacked by a large group of gunmen we do not know right now who they were and we also know that the driver of that car a local man according to some reports. we're commanded to the team by u.n. . central african republic so by this incident we know that he's currently called and with investigators we also hear that the crew didn't have press accreditation. officially they did have the right to work in central african republic as a journalist and we also hear from the russian embassy that they were not notified about their arrival but we hear from the russian officials that their buddies

expected to return to their homeland to russia this saturday has there been any indication as to why they were killed they don't discuss who is behind the killing of three russian journalists but more interested in what their assignment on the ground was shortly after the news about the death came we started receiving unconfirmed reports we're heard that from journalists friends and colleagues they were filming a documentary about mercenaries in central african republic possibly with links to russia some would go further calling a group name known as wagner although these were all unconfirmed reports some media news personalities. started using this information as if it was the matter of fact and it created kind of like hysteria but not about the killing the terrible incident that happened in central african republic but about russia's involvement in the conflict there and illegal personnel there and russia's foreign minister as

a reaction to these claims i read in here all of this nonsense about an investigation into russian mercenaries in the central african republic there is nothing sensational about the presence of russia's military instructors in the country no one covers this based on the location of the bodies the russian journalists were not heading to an area where the instructors work this march russia officially to send five military. and one hundred seventy instructors to central african republic apart from being one of the poorest countries on earth definitely on the african continent it is very unstable place is divided between different groups so it's like a very dangerous place and this was the reason behind the invitation of russian experts to the republic and i think this is what russian ministry is trying to say that this is not the new. fire because the news is the killing of the three russian

journalists and we have to wait and see what the investigation finds out. increasingly volatile atmosphere in one deprived parents neighborhood forcing a migrant support group to end its work their volunteers say the situation in hell has become explosive and that they no longer feel safe there over the past two years the group has distributed more than two hundred fifty thousand meals and supplies to needy people in the area. picks up the story for us. in paris is a gritty eighteenth hante small town hundreds of migrants clustered together on the streets they gather here as it's where food is distributed by a local for them to quit but after twenty months solid data to me call wilson looks set to close its doors saying they just can't take it anymore. it's become more tense we're serving around seven hundred breakfasts every day to

migrants who live in terrible conditions they have nothing not even tents they sleep on the ground and sometimes woken up by the police in the morning they kick them and use tear gas to move them so when they come to us they're stressed and nervous twice last week we had to stop serving food to let the tension calm down this is something new for us so yes we are stopping migrants have been expelled by police in this area many times felipe tells me that despite this they come back and every time they do this situation becomes even more desperate because from the beginning our mission was to serve hot drinks and bread and we've done this for twenty months every day during the last month or so we started questioning our mission because we don't want to volunteer to be put in danger. who is to blame for this situation for not giving enough help to the migrants on the streets is this the mayor of paris is this the government of france. is on for us is both the state

is responsible for people on the streets for taking in migrants at the same time the authorities in paris are restricting access to water taps in the summer is irresponsible they also have a responsibility towards the miners their miners here who sleep on the street and in the comfort drug addicts me the state nor the parish administration is doing its job. with the authorities not providing enough support the volunteers giving up just a stone's throw away from haiti is an area known locally as crack hill that's also made things worse for those working to help the migrants felipe says that some of the drug addicts are also coming for food handouts and causing problems. some of the drug addicts are evacuated recently but nothing was done to help them and they came back today now come from breakthroughs to it creates additional tension very aggressive including towards the volunteers so this is an explosive situation . while we're recording the into the need to think distribution point to take

individual approach us all move you know what i saw lambeau media which serves me or was the only thing i did i was so relieved that he did i mean our margin up so basically we're being moved at the moment to some of the people the streets are very uncomfortable with it like filming that we're not filming it he says but they just aren't comfortable with the fact that the cameras i mean when you typically see this in the past. i think. more people are coming nothing's being done about it and there are the drug addicts as you saw it's impossible to film people here it's becoming more difficult than before we think the situation is explosive and it puts is in real danger. by shutting up shop so legality may call with know that they are cutting off a vital lifeline for phone ripping economists but as well as doing it out of concern for their fallen tears they hope to move to prompt the authorities to stop

ignoring the plight of my clients and force them to take action do you can ski altie paris. and the dozen for me i will be back with headlines in about thirty one minutes you are watching art international stay with us. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. most of the people in the last month to experience the bombing we were in number one in this room. all day experiences all this.

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it's him in december morning and i'm on a bus headed down south from chinatown new york there breathless driver speeds up on the ice really it's i'm traveling across the states in a snowstorm because of a book. written over dishpan of twenty years back and forth from the mining areas to mr in kentucky the book by italians corner. is a monumental collection of moral history it does to struggle with words built around mining of coal when amy grants would come to the area to work well paid but often has faded jobs the book tells the story of harlan county that's where i'm going. to bury. this ripoff. own.

land. i'm headed to the depot mary kom of course. i want to see what's left of the. three years since his first visit now that the us is shifting to major and gas and coal mines for shutting down one after another i do not expect to find a lively city when i drive into harlem i find a ghost of the city where people are stuck like car terse and black and white

picture their stories and there. have not changed much from those recorded by pushed. research and that they are leaving me in this journey. with. well we really don't know what he'll be. back would have been thirty. plus at least to it. no ma'am.

but way from there now it's. like appalachian man but. appalachia now even with even. greater. crime our former falls. are shall. i got married when. i was sixteen years old and my husband was seventeen years old and lead me in myriad about six months then he went into the mountains and then six months after that down in the went to court accident. i had two week old son.

lady who lived down the street here on me and. killed. vertebra you know what it was really. low. where no. company wants to cold real it's gorgeous at all for the coal ready for the christmas they would in there always. suck the whole milk but done it was done it wasn't bad that it was. killed it made. no it much. to three boats that look at it one through so it. shielded. that they've paid to sit there i would say oh. i. am. feeling. i. i

find remnants of the mining history older memories of the casualties and the hard labor are alive in the stories told by the young and the like they're not had for the glory of collective struggle and hard work paid off. speaking to the locals barson saloons he conceded their life was and still is mine mine is harder now. relief their collective legend and whether played a part where sid would try to steer survive the war i'd disappear in before day i ask for the rose parade rest. in their stride branded a bit of a work first see a racist god feel but first you have like i went sixty of them at minus grill so.

it was work and i got them as my grandpa grandma a six awful sweater. but maybe you mean you. will. go. in every lady made home and edit each as he always had because you know now we've made the life that you'll say. you're going through. you won't want to hear that there's no water in the mine and soon you would have to drag through water and get it over

your knees and. the horses would have to pull through the opponents from there and then they would like to bow folders for tracks sometimes when they'd run out of traffic people here named were you know anywhere. there's nothing for him to day and there have been all the young pay for the turning to see after. and. if it were some one would have to stay and. say our government would get interested in this place this party can tell you think we. could make it better if they know their neighbor day. in they say you know the. navy.

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is holding its own group. in one thousand nine hundred i was the first woman to work in this one particular mine and my job was what they called the belt boy and then they started calling me the belt person because i was a female so when i would go underground everybody would be kind of gathered to see the. women coming out of the mines you know and then i remember my face will be all black but the coldest since i was a little bit vain so i would have a handkerchief and i would wipe my face off before i would come outside so it was the all clear. so that it but the guys would always be looking for me to come out because it was just so amazing i guess to them to see a woman working in the mines. it's all true.

more informal malo no. i remember when i was in high school i loved earth science i love the mountains of anything to do with rocks and my our science teacher back then said there's going to be eight hundred years of coal and when he said that that's when things were good you know where everybody was working like the guys that worked in the mines they always had the nice cars like the camero i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here and that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's happened it's happened.

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up on both of us. from the. last time we chased. each one of them carrying twenty kilos of drugs. first offense. into the three we have made the medical men they have insisted. i don't know maybe they'll get a. break. from now more.

like the endings and you can take your panix out your body and the body continues on it's just an appendage. so this is what people don't understand is that the u.k. leaving the e.u. the e.u. continues on great but if you take the appendix out the body is going to wither in trouble and die because it has no body to exist anymore and this is what's happening in the u.k. and it's going to be a lot of fun to watch because they spent living beyond their means for so many years now.

i would do for lucrative for the fair stroke. of the class struggle still going to maybe go to the terms of the unions but for instance right now in terms of the empire. that you came to. and nobody's ever filed to go get me in mind and you're wasting your time and they've ruined very evil people you know they do things to fame these and they do things to the young and the. sick if you notice it ceases to be there and if there's a big. thing. on kentucky county it's hard learned produce the most coal at

a time in which most of what powered the united states came from kentucky. today the thirty three active mines in harlan employ less than two thousand. some of deals mines have even been converted into museums. laid off left with nothing since the ninety's many laid off was for they don't see any other options in the she'll handouts in time on employed and are the usual customers swill her uncanny was founded on coal and there's a reason harris county was bill that's the reason. that is hard and can't is why the if they squeeze well aren't any of the building code and they got coal there's nothing else here we don't have the luxury of the cities we don't have factories we

don't in the reason not as good guys because there's good in the mountains we don't have the road boys and it's largess a mantra it's going to get me in a day and that. i go flip hamburgers at the local madame is where i go down here peace joy and make pay to. work that's now don't pay my bills over horrors real boom voices. you can walk straight fanny's very moody if you did more to get run over people goes both ways your use of being. an old man story very strong and numerous give more for their bodies every way home will. continue these days i'll give it a man is the only. person somewhere in it when you go to teach yourself. you know my uncles were good examples of this work and to save these now step in years and years. and they tell me how to get your guns will not be coming out of

the one i'm going to. if i don't because i'm in here and you know other than four years ago i'm going to go spend. they were going to live here with rich or poor people growth rates are below six so. we're now in the home. as i was eighteen years old it was around me and i. worked in a coma and for five years underground to hear service from. a waiter here and. take. my two hours and thirty cents an hour rusty it was insistent how much down in the world. it was our very do. not as much money in the time. for my doing here i just got out of jail what. possession of stolen

property. i'm not good. jails jail. as. i feed you three times a day. it will. be for t.v. . l.s.d. . i don't. all those things you. need you. here with me. it's no. good so. when. you go up down. this well i was teenager smith and jones and screamed this is through the roof these places are really slow and the story

carried a pistol on us. we have euro enough carried we'll never see a snow steel. wool i've learned by now oh i. must tell him that way. so. we. heard from the gun guy here the pawn shop here for the past five years we take everything from you know d.v.d.'s to. boat motors or whatever you want to madge and we have some motorcycles smoking in the mining equipment like say we would take a lot of that stuff you would sell a four hundred dollar mining helmet maybe once a week the lights daily but the fact of the mining mines are shut down makes it

difficult to sell that stuff because these were so these were being sold to personal miners for their own use and they're not in mining anymore course they're not buying it. like mine. here. where all of them are very accounting. ever. in the states is tough today it's hard to see any traces of the turbulent past there once made harlan the tories. the county is still mostly dry and was one for years people used to make moonshine knowledge drugs are in the rice is atrocious painkillers prescribed by doctors to treat danger and six miners now i'll ask a prime d'antin yes. there's a lot of people here this is

a big fish and or a. nurse said yes and. in three minutes any of them makes them feel better and they think it makes them feel better. we have a lot of problems with items that are coming in that are stolen. maybe not just from drug users. but that is a problem and i say again it's desperation to try to get some money to maintain a habit you know and i think since all this you know all the mining and depression of the mining everything it's caused. a rise in pills. it's the pills are the new alcohol. you're talking about the forty inch in the. forty's and fifty's. so in the fifty's well we made moves so only if you're in december we pick up ovaries but the race will be able to hope for as we carry in brazil yourself forward our again. the black berries will we got a quarter again we get

a list you know all. muddy from there to close and some food for them where they're . mostly what with troy in the food was cornmeal lower. so they would go a bit there will be with also the fish. flat. in the beginning and that would only have to take a few hours and they wanted them last sunday towards the end of morality they. found its way in. and maybe before they switched. to the ones in jail. and went for a feed you know and they hand it to sales now and they have it the jobs are ground . shot him down now the coal mines are said.

live to the mines is a lifetime in michigan and people. in poverty. it's no more. i walk the same road sonny sandra pushed tiny walked three decades and works from the opening. after his book come to my mind. it was nineteen eighty eight my fifth visit to harlan county i was on the winding road from harlan to our birds driving a borrowed pickup truck when i began to notice the road kill it was a dangerous road with more than its share of adventures drivers and it was getting dark. i began to think of the many ways in which that was a presence in this land that any more of their road accidents and of course the corn mines beyond and blood.

returning to new york leaving behind harder than in the end of this reign. i tried to put together the pieces sober remotes were to i only got a glimpse off. my own with wonder where all that energy came from. the energy that lights up the luxury so. there was will leave his whole bar is worth what hurt is a little girl's grave. oh daddy dear daddy please don't go away. with. all the don't go to the. madre would. come true. oh oh daddy dear daddy plays

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admin's to do then he finds out that the priest is is a perpetrator is simply moves him to a different spot were the previous standards not the highest ranks of the catholic church help conceal the accused priests from the police and justice so something that i know that's known as the i didn't and then i conclude that it used to stay out until. it's felt. close to. some for something. indigenous people as you know we that they paid in. the patri.

must say that on the. other side then the man just back and pulled be ok with. i said i will enter it in if they will not allow me. if they will shoot me. i don't know how long a million million indeed i'm not that much you can only mean i'm in the bin that you could have been killed by the human dynamic that i think i'm a little bit like i mean because you.

i'm gonna let them know you are a friend tell them what do you own i need. to know. this is music apps this is video games this is me i'm sure it's much broader than twitter and google the u.s. senate intelligence committee considers how to respond to alleged foreign influences within social media and russia tops the agenda also. scenes of protest and zimbabwe's capital during an anxious wait for the results of the first free elections in decades the opposition is accusing the ruling party of widespread fraud and. registration type crime.

and yet the media and the government some extent are treating it like industrialist a lawyer for. the russian woman accused of being a kremlin agent in the u.s. tells r.t. the case is being blown out of proportion. and get more on all of the latest stories at r.t. dot com the kaiser report is coming up next on our to international but in the u.k. and ireland it is time for boom bust. americans are welcome to the kaiser report and prepare to be in the late. plays well we're going to continue a bit on this whole united states of inequality and the preparation as we head into the midterms because a lot of data is now coming out about twenty sixteen elections there's my core data

that new york times came out with and it's really quite interesting but one thing i've really noticed and this goes with the data i'm going to look at this billboard this says colorado billboard replaced is zero in g.o.p. with soviet hammer and sickle and this is from a democrat a resistance hero and he is posted this in colorado and i responded to that with this tweet and yet with this command and control monetary policy and state subsidized banking system and mortgage market it is the u.s. which is far more communist than the russian federation even the i.m.f. agrees as we had just recently spoken about in our report where the i.m.f. had said well actually the russian economy monetary policy is way better than us policy welcome to talk of your theory of data versus ratings go ahead honey this is your show ok but before that let me just comment that i've been saying this for

quite some time that the u.s. and russia are two ships passing in the night with america becoming more soviet like and more of just stop zero stasi like and russia becoming more free market like and we're seeing that trend play down twenty eighteen in a big way but to the idea of data versus ratings so the people who put up billboards like that are part of the core poc r.c. they're part of comcast minions m s n b c. ik ratings by sensationalism and propaganda the other side of the political spectrum the trump camp uses data they just look at data and that's how they want to twenty sixteen that's how they're going to do great in twenty eighteen that's how we're going to win in twenty twenty because they're not ratings driven trump is. data driven and so in toll the democratic side figures out to look at the data hillary spent billions on data and famously chose to ignore it she thought her instincts were better than the data and

that's why she lost we'll get into that another episode but i do want to mention that the democrats are the ones that enabled all of that enabled google and facebook to capture such a large share and not basically break them up via anti-monopoly anti-trust laws so they're the ones that allow them to collect so much data and yet that's part of the reason why i think they have this sort of mental breakdown where they have become the republicans of the one nine hundred fifty s. and now in fact what the data the actual results of twenty sixteen show is that america's factory towns once solidly blue are now a g.o.p. haven a generation ago democrats represent and much of the country's manufacturing base now it is in g.o.p. hands a swing remaking both parties the republican party has become the party of blue collar america this is from the wall street journal and they say after the one nine hundred ninety two election fifteen of the twenty most manufacturing intensive

congressional districts in america were represented by democrats that was during the clinton era today all twenty are held by republicans the shift of manufacturing from a democratic stronghold to republican one is a major force reshaping the american economy it's an politics so this is bill clinton's it's the economy stupid and it's very interesting quadratic phase shift and let me explain that more you know the democrats versus republicans republicans used to be the party of wall street and big business and the democrats were labor under trump trump as a republican is now the party of rebalancing the global economy and getting into trade wars and fighting for main street fighting for the worker. the democrats now are left with fighting for wall street and monetarism and money printing and the federal reserve bank and lawrence summers and all the group that robert ruben

rado's are going to need that merry go amr refer to when he came into office instead of fighting for the individual all the debtor member obama bailed out the creditors they bailed out wall street and now trump is doing the opposite so the worker senses this and supports trump so again twenty sixteen was a radical break from history this is partly why there's that breakdown. and what's going on with the conspiracy theories on comcast cares m.s.m. b c there is a breakdown you have to anybody from objective lee can see that there was a break there was a break in the working class the working class is now in the g.o.p. remember those areas hillary called bucket of losers and baskets of deplorable zx well those sort of insults worked for her precinct data shows rich white neighborhoods flipping democratic in two thousand and sixteen will it last

republicans have been the party of the rich and democrats the party of the poor for about as long as political scientists have collected data on american elections that might not be quite so true anymore at least among white voters hillary clinton won the nation's richest most exclusive neighborhoods by a wide margin in the twenty sixteen presidential election according to an analysis of election results. of washington state university and census data and donald j. trump fared significantly better than mitt romney and the white districts that were the least affluent and least educated so again you always think of the very very wealthy and this is what it households above two hundred fifty thousand dollars income they basically voted for hillary clinton and this used to be the classic republican voter but now there are democratic voters so whatever happened something radical has happened and the radical results were most apparent and two thousand

and sixteen right well trump is took a calculated risk if he knew he saw that there's an enormous constituency of workers and the disenfranchised were under serviced by their longstanding party the democrats and knew that by co-opting bernie sanders policies he would win the election because he knew bernie would beat both trump and hillary so he said you know what they're going to say. i'm going to throw bernie overboard i'm going to take this calculated risk i will be bernie you know centers of crazy hair and i'll win the presidency and absolutely correct you know as far as g.o.p. madness and the democrats are having the red scare and i did see some courageous behavior by hollywood liberal elites like alec baldwin who has come out and said that any money made on this movie mission impossible in distributed in russia he's going to give that to charity any of the money made by distributing this film mission impossible ball is going to give his portion to charity wait

a minute that's not going to happen because he's afraid well speaking of red scare here is the district wide detailed map of america and this is from the new york times they've just collected all the data they can two years from since the election to gather all the data so you can see all of the deplorable and losers and make up much of the country according to the democrats according to m.s.n. b.c. according to c.n.n. according to hillary clinton lovers those people are losers here that the blue areas i want to focus in on north carolina this is where we're not in the deplorable zone losers apparently hillary clinton things where winners so we're in the blue area there but yet the breakdown they also showed unique to twenty sixteen election versus other elections was that there were basically they each won by landslides in their respective districts whatever the county district they won by

a landslide which suggests more polarization hyper hyper polarization and hyper partisanship that is getting worse and worse and more and more determined and the new york times analysis suggests that that's even beyond gerrymandering it's like the opinions are forming and it's changed a lot since the ninety's of course when. rupert murdoch entered the us with fox news fox news won the ratings race by hyper partisanship and m.s.m. b c naturally followed so m s n b c has their competing conspiracy theories to fox news's conspiracy theories and it's hyper and. all sorts of studies have shown as once you embrace a conspiracy theory is no amount of facts in fact if you are presented with facts to the contrary that prove disprove your wacky conspiracy theory you're more likely to believe it even harder so i think we have these two competing conspiracy theories there they're very popular there i mean that's how alex jones has had so

many millions of viewers and dedicated listeners throughout the years as if you have a conspiracy theories people love it and they will just keep on tuning in to get it confirmed over and over and its planes rachel maddow yeah she's got her because apparently there is trying to grab alex jones as market and our show is being phased out of social media because rachel maddow is the chosen one she's the conspiracy theorist that we must all listen to but you know the point about murdoch's a good one because murdoch represents the age of big media ratings driven political manipulation that's fading yes and trump is really the new era of data driven artificial intelligence driven political policy driven driven by tweets tweets and social media this is part of it's cut out murdoch gets cut out so does m s n b c and i think that's part of the reason why the likes of rachel maddow are struck so you know vocal about getting facebook and twitter to shut off the voices that they

don't like to hear in their heads. yeah well put and then we call rolling with this no also i want to quickly turn to another headline from the u.k. and this is u.k. household debt worse than at any time on record brits are living beyond their means like never before twenty seventeen each household spent or invested about nine hundred pounds which is one thousand one hundred eighty seven dollars more than they received on average which is twenty five billion. dollars in total according to an article published this week britons were previously net borrowers in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight the height of the credit fueled economic boom generated by the chancellor of the exchequer nigel lawson but even then the shortfall is just three hundred million pounds here's the financial position of u.k. households the chart and since the financial crisis and since the bailing out the banks since the basically free money for the top the socialism for the top and their their unfettered capitalism for the bottom well it's led to the only way to even sustain the data also shows that these people these people aren't like living

the high life they're basically borrowing in credit cards or buying their food paying their rent paying for electricity on their credit cards right so austerity measures that were brought in simply means that the government was going to go into debt but the consumer did you know the consumer is suffering well we had a guest steve keen on price report and he did say that he did predict this would happen as soon as the government stop spending that the household would have to start going into debt instead of exact and that's exactly what's up and whether or not it's stable i don't know but i doubt it is only throwing gas on the fire you know the u.k. is like the appendix and they can take your appendix out your body and the body continues on it's just an appendage. so this is what people don't understand is that the u.k. leaving the e.u. the e.u. continues on great but if you take the appendix out of the bodies it's going to wither and shrivel and die because it has no body to exist anymore and this is what's happening in the u.k.

and it's going to be a lot of fun to watch because there's been living beyond their means for so many years now and now it's all coming home to roost germy. anyway we got to take a break and when we come back a lot more coming your way don't go away. russia is one of the country's and most by capacity and although very high population does that mean russia does need to be concerned about sustainability i would say yes absolutely you are no lock a situation where you have a lot of farm per person so to say you know you have a lot of wealth ecological wealth and but the word is very scarce so that's a huge economic advantage as well and saying wow this is an amazing farm let's look after it well because that's our asset that's

a major loss to live well in the long run. welcome back to the kaiser report i'm max keyser time now to get a nice spell florida as speak with carl dan and care of a market tech or that's a market hyphen tech or that or a car welcome back and thank you very much on x. carl down under the corporate media is up in arms about trump's trade war with china and a visitor to your side market hyphen techer dot our i will say that you however thank it's not necessarily a bad idea how can a trade war be good car well when you have trade that hasn't been free for you on time but you've been selling it to people is free then making it actually free seren open is positive and if you have

a ten percent tariff going one way and ten percent tariff going the other way that's free and fair or right i mean you know it's everybody everybody's equal the only reason we've had the kind of trade in bells we've had united states over the last thirty years whether it be a good p.n.t.r. it was granted to china or will it be now after is because corporations have exploited what amounts to slave labor environmental destruction policies in other countries which you can't get away with in the united states we were told would never was passed that the four dollar an hour our early labor cost for manufacturing mexico would rapidly rise to near parity with united states so that ours might come down a little bit maybe from thirty dollars an hour or twenty five but then there is would rise from four to twenty five and here we are a couple decades later and the all really labor cost for manufacturing labor in mexico still four dollars an hour so obviously that was a lot and the same thing is true with the chinese but of all over now

china is even seeing some push back and so now you're seeing labor you know are good but i mean like how much clothing is made trying to. right los was many places like bangladesh and vietnam because china actually got too expensive for them so they want sixty cents a day just so close instead of you know three bucks so i mean this is this is nothing new and correcting this though is a good thing the other thing into remember mannix that goes with us is that it is always most efficient from a operational perspective to business point of view to manufacture things close to the point of consumption because shipping is not free and so the only way that does not work out their way is if you're exploiting somebody so where. so if i want to consume a car in mexico i would be best advised to build a car in mexico own a consumer guard china i would be best advised trying to want to consume a car united states best advised bill that you know in states and the same thing is

true for the components of parts of whatever have you the only time that's not true is when somebody's getting screwed and so what we've had for the last thirty four years use a lot of people getting screwed a lot of people that have been getting screwed because their jobs have been displaced but americans i get that point and now that the u.s. has been able to outsource and environmental degradation and you know capitalize on what have affectively banned slave wages and now it's happened office this is reversing and now we're seeing a lot of reversals out there we're going from quantitative easing a quantitative tightening a guy from globalization to i think what you could call the globalization if in fact trump keeps down this path and goes after a completely different trade relationships with countries like china what happens domestically to the u.s. i mean some say that ok the cost of building factories hair in the u.s.

would actually be compatible with china is that part of the mix going forward will we see more factories being built here because. m.r. competitive carl yeah you will but you're also going to see some some rather interesting things happen the margins. and this is of course why you have so many people screaming about this year you look at apple for example they make i phones they get about a forty percent operating margin making i terms of gross selling price versus cost for the reason it's forty percent is because the screws that go into the frame internally are made malaysia by people that earn fifty cents a day or slates they're brought over illegally and then essentially have to pay bribes in order to stay in the country and so those screws cost much less well what happens if you stop all of that abuse and you bring that labor back in united states. if apple could charge one hundred dollars for an i phone start files and if you do it right now if g.m. could be charging six thousand dollars more for car they do it right now i mean

that's what capitals do right you charge as much as you possibly can given the realities the market so if you stop that what happens is apple still charges a thousand dollars for i phone but their margin on the i phone goes from forty percent to twenty five and that has a rather interesting effect on the stock price sounds like inflation so you know that that is obviously not been discounted in things like the bond market. and now we can see how that's going to play out going forward but i want to kind of skip along here to some other points and then is ok or thoughts on it the g.d.p. numbers came out last week and the u.s. economy is allegedly growing and over four percent what it what your thought there was no it's not. in the last four months june thirtieth to june thirtieth the united states treasury emitted approximately one point three trillion dollars in new treasury bonds that's money into the economy d g.d.p.

expanded by approximately one trillion dollars during that same period of time all of them. when three trillion immediately went into the economy got spent so you have to subtract that off the g.d.p. expansion or when you do that we actually have a negative g.d.p. number but of course nobody does this that scheme has been going on for a very long time and you have a new show an intro been larry kudlow you know we won't get into what i think of him. i want to say how wonderful this is but the truth is that it's not that the country has been running a negative g.d.p. number in terms of actual real output for a very long time and it's continuing to do so because if you have some number of units of cars and t.v.'s or whatever and you double the amount of currency or money this that is flowing around by them you haven't changed the amount of upward by one bit and yet g.d.p. will double mathematically ok so you have to state g.d.p.

in some kind of unit that's not something it's temporary like there's like hours of effort or joules of energy i like jewels energy myself but nobody likes that because that would expose the truth. and so does numbers are all smoke and mirrors in the end can you make them go up an indefinite four basis you know or somebody who was in the restoration is running around saying that we could see it in or not recent numbers well sure run of let's return dollar budget deficit you'll see a nine percent number but then does that mean that the economy is actually expanded it nine percent oh it just means you put the money into the system this is a point we've discussed in the past they are the numbers that the government policy has are smoke and mirrors and a lot of ways and don't give a true picture one number and one trend that does resonate with the population as this wealth and income gap the fact that so much more wealth is concentrated at the very top and people feel that they see that and they don't necessarily need to look at the numbers to try to figure that out then they see what's happening in the wake

of this we're saying a trend which is new and powerful it's called. democratic socialism so politically speaking i've got candidates than on the left wing of the left party who are making waves let this democratic socialism so it's a tie to the economy car in other words the numbers are nonsense it's numerical propaganda but people now you know they they feel however that they're getting screwed so now that politically they're resorting to voting for socialism air thought all voting for getting screwed more i mean if you know looks. just take bernie sanders you know medicare for all promise that he has would put over two trillion dollars a year into the federal budget we're going to get the money the answer is he's not the reason that you have this problem and was mastered for all these years is the trade deficit when you know during a bombing years you ran

a trillion dollar deficits essentially far as the eye can see and trump last june of this year in his one one point three in real deficit not what they report the six hundred billion but the actual number if you look at debt to the penny that's the number all right so when you do that the only way to avoid debt showing up immediately in places you don't want and having the fed react to it is to export it to places like china but when you export it to places like china or trade imbalance what you've asked for it is the jobs. so the people get screwed one way or the other which way would you want to get screwed would you like to have prices go up or would you like to lose your job you lose your job you know already so you know tell me what the difference is we have to fix these imbalances structurally with our economy and turning to people like cortez who can't even answer the question where are you going to get the cash to put these programs into place. what little

bit you know we do the baby bubble thing that at that point same thing with sanders so i mean am i surprised that people are saying hey you know we're we're take. the issue and we don't like this we're going to go for something else. ok farai but be careful because what you're voting for is to swallow or grenade ok to your point on they are you willing to lose your job lot of people were willing to lose their job because prices for stuff play made in china was cheaper and they had the illusion of not having their standard of living collapse but now it seems as though the big cycle is reversing and we're seeing some action in the stock market and i why your interpretation of this because you've got facebook and twitter plunging twenty percent or more in a day facebook lost one hundred nineteen billion dollars in market capitalization one day that's the biggest hit in market history so the so-called fang stocks seem to be rolling over and i'm actually carl there's a price to pay for a smoke and mirrors and for

a massive money printing and for not accountability and so are we at an inflection point in the stock market or is quantitative easing going to make a comeback to save the day again as down forty thousand car off you know you know to be able to do that it goes without the trade deficit is deferred was to try to do that you'd have ten dollars a gallon gasoline in about an afternoon so that's that's not going to happen. you know that you want to talk about you know cities burning in the outbreak of true unrest is because i was to try something like that you could get a result like they have in argentina where you look obviously through those so i don't see that in the cards at all what i do see is a shift of production back in the united states i see margins coming back into where they ought to be i see a lot of the smoke and mirrors companies cough cough amazon cough cough by the way has a you know across subsidisation model that i worked for

a long time i was lately legal you have facebook which is which makes all the money by selling data on you so that your insurance company could. screw you over another four dollars free card surance. these these kinds of models will collapse and so will the value if you think about it max who does it hurt that hurts the guys you know that that's the income inequality problem right. loses you know twenty billion dollars in a day a gene that helps income inequality right he's rich as you was before so that kind of thing goes on any kind of you know a realistic model for any length of time it actually benefits things especially a production comes back to united states another common person as a job and or a right in other words wall street is the big loser going forward and main street could be the big winner and that's the way markets go karl denninger thanks so much for being on the kaiser report there's really backs my pleasure and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy everett i

think our guest karl denninger of market hyphen ticker dot org the place to go for data and analysis and get that niceville florida vibe if you want to catch us on twitter as kaiser report intellects time. on this edition of cross uk we consider one question is donald trump's america first policy in contradiction to the washington consensus idea of american exceptionalism the answer this question will likely define trump's presidency and change the world.

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economy are you. on the welcome to worlds apart and treat the earth's resources as you would the money in your bank account this is the matter for that my guest today uses to raise awareness of the exploitation of our environment but with the ice caps melting species dying out and our reliance on fossil fuels unabated isn't it too late to save our planet from environmental insolvency well to discuss that i'm now joined by matisse. back a negative deal of global footprint network mr beck and they go it's good to talk

to you thank you very much for your time thank you for having me it's a pleasure now we're recording this conversation on the eve of earth overshoe day which these here according to your calculations falls on august first and for all what i understand this is not an occasion for celebration this far as you are concerned yeah we call as we mark earth over should be it's a day in the year by which we have used as much from the planet as the planet can renew need tire year and it's old and from what i understand it's also the early is that it's been in the recent years it ever we've never been as large as a population a consumption is still going up yes productivity of agriculture is going up which is mitigating a little bit but overall demand is still exceeding what we kind of renewed more and more from for those of our viewers who have never heard about this day what exactly does it mean. so essentially the or ecological accountants so accountants typically

they count money we count physical things potatoes and cotton and milk and everything and and we look at the word that's a big farm and say how much of this farm is needed to regenerate everything that we use so we add up every square meter of huge for example my orange juice my potatoes my continent cetera how much area is that the call that the ecological footprint that we did can compare with how much is available on this planet so how big is the farm called planet how big is our hunger as humanity and then we can make a balance sheet and that by marking this day on august first that it would mean that humanity will. run its credit on the particular day i'm starting from august first it will be essentially leaving on. loan to resources it's like with money if you spend one point seven fold what you earn you know also by by august first you would have spent your income for the year and then you started to treat your assets

financially the same is true with resources so if you just look at the whole year we live off the income of nature from jan refers to august first and then the rest would come from depletion and depletion you can see by shrinking forests by accumulation of c o two and you have to miss fear etc a number of effects that it has physically the overuse i personally find this comparison of our reliance on natural resources to a bank account very compelling except for the fact that the it's a logical bankruptcy that according to you humanity may be having toll roads is a likely to come during our lifetime and in the absence of these kind of due date what else could encourage people to be last spendthrift when it comes to nature. i mean yes and all analogies break down obviously with money you know we can go bankrupt over using and then to spend more than what we were to use the bankruptcy comes pretty quickly would money we. can print money so that's easier than with

resources resources we cannot print so bankruptcy ecological is not just like an on off switch and suddenly everything is gone but it's just it's gets tighter it gets more difficult more ecosystems are depleted it's more difficult to produce food etc the time spent of the policeman is actually much shorter it's not just very distant future i mean if you look at for example the climate piece which is a big piece of the overall demand if we want to stay within two degrees celsius global warming which to paris agreement said we want to do that would mean we would need to move out of fossil fuel use before twenty fifty so that's that for thirty two year olds today they will be less than sixty five years old in two thousand and fifty so that's very close but i think what we know from. both personal and social psychology is that people don't tend to take things seriously until they see immediate impact and our own lives and i know that many people in the west are concerned. about the environment but do you think that concern is enough to do

anything in practice obviously the concern is not strong enough that's why we're working on helping people understand what the implications are i think i would contend your idea that people cannot deal with abstract ideas that come from switzerland for example that's where i grew up and the swiss are very worried about government debt for example so they forego present consumption for making sure we don't overspend money and money is very abstract and the swiss still do that for example is one example that i know that many areas where we do invest in the long run just with the resources we haven't really wrapped our head around it very well well switzerland is famous in my country at least for how holding a referendum and actually voting no referendum death would ground every citizen compulsory income of around two thousand tourists if i'm not mistaken so i think that's that's pretty am exceptional i think in most countries if you put would put the two popular vote. measure is likely to pass with flying colors to do you really

think that switzerland is a very typical country here i think people are very similar and the word i mean the switzerland has an interesting governance system so people feel that they actually own the state when he asked people in switzerland like who is a state that would say we are the state so they they recognized by for everybody gets money they also have to pay for that money so so that's probably why they voted but i see the same thinking across the word let's take education for example you know education is also a long term investment if you close primary schools today you wouldn't see an impact on the labor market for many years to come and still people say we can't afford not to send children to school so so so that the ability to think long term is quite human we have that and that's what distinguishes our response to all this or if you think of the cathedral that have been built and i don't know for over two hundred years people started to build a cathedral that never saw how it would be completed and still they put enormous

efforts into building cathedrals that we can build over two hundred years so we have the ability to think ahead quite a bit let me ask you a personal question don i heard you say that you actually have quite a large footprint yourself and that if everybody leaves like you it would take about five planets to regenerate all the resources that go into making your lifestyle you know comfortable interesting worth living how do you reconcile that for yourself your professional convictions and you know if you are all my personal life styles reach you know we both recognize it would be unsustainable if if practiced by everybody yeah i mean the biggest part of make a logical footprint is flying around the word and i have to reconcile with that and i want to engage with as many people as i can and i can do it and i try to get with your audience which i'm very very pleased by and that takes a lot of resources in the end the question is all these resources well spent today for example i took the bicycle for an hour to come to this t.v. studio. i prefer to go by salon by car it's not from

a moral conviction perspective particularly i think one of the big errors we make of the resource issue and sustainability is that we see it just as a moral obligation or read nice to humanity or not while in reality it's an economic necessity in countries us cities and even as individuals we overuse our resource base we won't have a very secure long term long term prospect so it's a very practical matter but i guess because i'm trying to advocate for these that is a flyer that's true well not only and i don't want to make it too focused on you but let's say people in the west who are concerned about the environment for example al gore would be one of them they also tend to have. fairly nice houses you know good air conditioning you rely on electricity you're running water on all those conference of life that we have come to take for granted and we know that you know a large proportion of people on this planet do you know that have those conference

and they are actually entitled to those contra comforts no last them you or me if they were to receive it do you think dad. wouldn't that be something that would essentially ruined a planet overnight. you know my commitment and also the commitment of our green zation really is for all to thrive and also recognize that we only have one planet we call it want planet prosperity because india and the one planet doesn't go away so the question really is how can we all thrive within the means of this one planet and the choice is quite easy because the one planet is a given the choice is between one planet prosperity or one planet misery and i think one pleasant prosperity is probably a better choice so how can we get there and of course people want to have great lives i'm living in a comfortable house so yes we put photovoltaic cells on my house so we have electricity produced directly from the sun vantage so we can have comfortable. and also not used too many resources but it takes for side in innovation so for as i'll

gore's concern for example i think it's great that he moves around as much as he can to talk to people and leaders and showed it can i make risk of not addressing the resource issues that we're facing so i mean a lot of people are flying around and i think this message needs more attention because it's a significant risk we wouldn't tell also black people who talk who work on unemployment don't work because they take take take work away from others you know unemployment is so important to address it resource issues and climate change is so important we need to put all our strength into addressing as well i guess my point here is that in many of your public appearances you stress the fact that we can maintain the current comforts of life while minimizing the environmental costs of them and you know i i think we would all would like that to happen but three i think we also need to ask and by we i mean people who leave in developed or high

living foundry countries whether perhaps the more the lifestyle needs will have to be changed in order for the planet to be. you know not only in good shape but also you know after your place to leave because if if you actually hold that as a bar for all the developing world it seems to me that all of the cultivation is also to point out to the fact that it is simply impossible to maintain dop lifestyle for everybody on this planet. i'm personally a universalist i think everybody has a right to a great good comfortable life absolutely and how can we do that while also living within this one planet budget because that's also what we've got so that these two realities that struggle with each other how can we get there if we go to our website to with a look at for peace solution areas that make it possible for people to have trade lives. while also living within the means of one planet in their fifty's for air it's our first away build our cities if you continue to build the cities on the car

model that kind of very diffuse cities that you get out of cars and have very big houses that are very inefficient and that's takes a lot of resources if we take more kind of the mediterranean model off the compact cities would well build houses where you can walk or rather eat only walk and bicycle you don't need cars you can have the higher quality of life the second area's energy if you produce energy with coal power or produce energy with solar power makes a huge difference the fourth the third area is food the way we feed ourselves now it's harder to have reduced too many calories but we can eat less product we can we can we can waste less food we can become more efficient in producing food etc so food is a big area too currently about half of the plants by capacity is used just for food production and the last topic which is very important as well and on the plate is how many people we are it could double as many people there's only half as much planted per person that's got a job is obvious to see and we can also address that by increasing quality of life

if you can start to divest far more and women if we if we help women to have more opportunities the families get smaller the families get also healthier and better educated it's a total win for the next generation and also the resource constraints will be eased well at mr breckon necker we have to take a very short break now but we will be back in just a moment statement. join me every thursday on the alex simon chill and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics school business i'm showbusiness i'll see if. kentucky. boy suzy forestry.

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welcome back to worlds apart with medicine reckon that they see all of global footprint network but tobacco negative just before the break we were talking about what essentially is called sustainable development you know keeping countries developing but doing it in a sustainable fashion and correct me if i'm wrong but i know that i'm wrong some ninety countries that. your organization looked at you only found one country that meets the minimum criteria for sustainable development and the sisk you bought it. is that actually a positive finding is that something that gives you hope let me give you a bit more context of just current leave i mean look at what are the conditions for sustainable development it's very simple to actually say that because it's two

words sustainable development development means you want to have great lives the united nations measures that by how long are you lives how high is your income and you have access to education and they measure it as the human development index from zero to one then the higher we are the better they say higher than zero point eight would be high development very high development on the other hand why do we say sustainable because sustainable because there's only so much planet so the question is is the lies that off the people replicable world wide how many planets would it take if everybody lived like me so we can then basically with these two conditions we can say which countries meet the criteria of high human development currently and resource demand that is replicable word wide and there are very few countries right now that are getting close to that condition cuba is close to that peru's and all the while that is close to that does that mean that's the goal and the word it just means already today we can show that high high longevity and

income and education is possible lower. and lower resource consumption i think you can also understand where i'm leading because as you know cuba has been for a long time a subject to the american embargoes and there forms of geopolitical geo cannot make pressure which produced a mode of living that even cubans themselves want to change they have a new government that is very explicit in its intention to raise people's living standards so that development may be sustainable economic liberty is it really something that people would want to sustain i'm not saying it's sustainable i'm just saying they have a resource consumption it is replicable world wide and still with that amount of resource they have achieved quite long lives and high levels. occasion not so high income i'm not saying they have that's kind of the overarching goal of in peru is another example what stare but i think the overall question for humanity is how can we have all high human development while still living within the means of this one

planet and there are great opportunities to move in this direction we just haven't applied just haven't employed innovation to make that happen we use most innovation to use more to have bigger cars heavier cora's bigger houses etc rather than to use it for how to live better on this planet and if we can continue on that track of just using more we undermine our ability to have great lives for everybody so it's possible that everybody could get there but i thought our goal currently for humanity but i wonder if one of the implications of the cuban example is that. the humanity can only get to that stage of sustainability when it's hard pressed when it has no obvious choice because you mentioned you know as well and drew is a nice country cuba is also beautiful country but you would not necessarily call them the countries that would be you know role models father i cannot imagine

americans for example are sweet trying to reform best systems to resemble those of good rule or cuba. so that's i mean that's what i'm saying that the many other elements that b. could take advantage off that would make life much even better and that i would actually end me i would love to live in a city where there are all the car dominated where i can go everywhere by bicycle where i can walk what is fresh air where there's like a lot of activity downtown and actually if you look at the most attractive cities around the word these are all cities that have very compact downtown cities where people walk around and the cars are not that dominant that's where people go on as tourists and they love to be in those places so it's possible to reshape cities in ways that are far more livable and far less resource consumption and that's just the energy side i mean what's possible technologically to move from coal to sorter it's incredible we just haven't taken advantage of these opportunities it's ironic

to me that you say that while joining us from the united states which has indeed a very strong automobile culture i used to study there and it was extremely difficult for me as it passes by to get around because you know if you don't have a car there you basically struggle to fulfill your you know daily chores but i think that has been changing in the united states to a lot of american cities are investing in public transportation only because it became too expensive for many people to own a house called two cars so again i wonder if humanity will only change one when it is essentially pressed to do that i mean they're all they're all kind of they all kind of pressures i live in california very very privileged here also with the weather and i think people recognize here that people driven pedal driven. driven transportation is preferrable here and in the bay area there's a very strong part of the population who wants to go around by bicycle and we have more and more bicycle lanes and it's not just for economic reasons people also for

health reasons they like to move and be able to bicycle to work for example so that's something that's that's happening. more and more here particularly california not saying it's happening everywhere around the united states but that also when you look from the real estate perspective more and more people want to live closer to the downtown area of the to the suburbs because then they can more easily move around get to restaurants walk to have movie theater etc quality of life increases you see that from the differential in terms of real estate values are going up more where you have a high level of walkability actually one of the most important real estate criteria that exist in any state is called walkability score that people want to say wow when i kind of walk i mean also depend on cars i can age there i have a good neighborhood etc so i think it's more recognized that the speed i would like to see but i think people start to recognize that it's possible to decouple resource demand and good lives and that's what we would need to accelerate far more and i resent the forces that move in the other direction i mean there's

a strong car industries and people really love cars but it's not compatible with the future we want now we talked about the united states let's turn our attention to other countries on your website if you have a calendar of the over should days by country speech provides for quite a perplexing reading i would say for example of russia with its one hundred forty five million people and huge uncultivated land reserves as well as still a fairly contained industrial production is worse off than china whose population is ten times as high and which is pumping out so much carbon dioxide it is hard to leave there i understand the methodology certainly not biased against individual countries but are you sure that it is reflecting the actual environmental standing off and the given country. let me just explain a little bit more about what we measured there for in ways how to look at the

numbers so one number is how much does it take to support an average person in russia or an average what does it take on average to support a person that is states or in switzerland for example so that's an ecological footprint and then you can compare that with how much is available on the planet on average so that we give you a number of how many planets would it take if everybody lives like me you can also compare it with how much is available in the country itself because every country in the end is like a farm and russia for example is a very very large farm russia is one of the countries that most by capacity and all the very high population so you are actually in a situation where you're by capacity is larger than even your large ecological footprint and china i think quite different situation has a very large population with not as high of a per capita footprint as in russia but far less by capacity per person so it takes about three china's to support china and so they are there's to feeling that resource constrained far more than for example russian is a very very fortunate paused position does that mean russia does need to be

concerned about sustainability i would say yes absolutely you are no lucky situation where you have a lot of farm per person so to say you know you have a lot of wealth ecological wealth and the word is very scarce so that's a huge economic advantage as well and saying wow this is an amazing farm let's look after it well because that's our asset that will enable us to live well in the long run i mean mr breckon i got from what i had to stand there that the reason for having those individual country days is to encourage local populations to be active and to do something about the environment and when you place russia and china it's you month to have despite the fact that russia's footprint is much smaller and i think it's environmental policies are also i with my may i may be biased but i think it's more environmentally conscious than those. of china don't you think that you may be misleading local populations

a little bit when we're just measuring what is i think it's like with income no it's important to know how to do much for you compared to how much you spend it's also important to know how much do you earn compared to what the average earns in your countries into different numbers so we provide you with physical numbers about your resource security we can compare your demand your personally amount as a footprint calculated to or he can go to and calculate your own consumption say how many plans would take if everybody lives like you but then you can also compare it with how big is our farm it's also an impaired important situation so switzerland where i'm from for example switzerland uses four times more than what ecosystems in switzerland can renew and the question for switzerland is is that a risk for switzerland the u.k. is in a similar situation uses four times more than that you can ecosystems can renew is that a risk that's a question we need to debate because ultimately if we just say it's not just a nice thing for humanity to reduce your footprint whatever that doesn't help the

point the question is is it really make an ominous s.m.t. i believe yes if we are not resource secure that's becoming an ever more significant parameter of long term economic success and we cannot shift that from one day to the other that's something we have to think ahead about one of the criticism of your methodology is that it essentially equates by capacity to agricultural capacity and as a result you'll protocols favor replacing natural ecosystems with more productive human managed vegetation which would naturally rob ah there species from from their own habitat i you sure that you know magic's are. non human bias in a way because we all leave on this planet. yeah i got to mention that i mean there's a lot of people who write about our method and some criticisms etc and some of the criticism is not super well informed i think i mean it's a criticism that is not totally correct but i mean people write things i mean

essentially we don't say live after the footprint that's the ultimate thing we just provide won critical measure that is to say how big of the ecosystems of on the planet or within your countries and how hungry are we so it's a quantitative approximation of how much we have how many resources we have compared to how many we use now is it super size probably could be made more precise we just use un data sets because that's the most objective data set we have to roughly estimate how much we have and how much we use if so if you can the. areas from want to use to not or it actually doesn't show changed by capacity according to our metrics we just say this is the this is the capacity you have some people say we should use it to grow potatoes of the say we should use it to growth forests you know in the end we just say this is the size of your farms that's how much farm you have how you use it is your choice but there's a quantity of issue because quantity. overpowers quality if we use more than what

there is we cannot generate quality use of ecosystems we can protect one little area for quality and have it nice but then if you continue to consume as much you just put more pressure on the remaining part so we have to get the quantity right otherwise you can not get to quality well mr right and i still have questions of my list and my list but unfortunately i can oppose them to you because our time is up i really appreciate you being with us today thank you very much for sharing your perspective and i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going on our social media pages and hope to see you again same place same time here on worlds apart.

still. on this edition of crossfire we consider one question is donald trump's america first policy in contradiction to the washington consensus idea of american exceptionalism the answer this question will likely define trump's presidency and

change the world. this is music out this is video games this is me it's much broader than twitter and google the u.s. senate intelligence committee considers how to respond to alleged foreign influence on social media and russia tops the agenda also. scenes of protests in zimbabwe's capital during an anxious wait for the results of the first free elections in decades the opposition is accusing the ruling party of widespread fraud and. this is more of a registration type of crime that a crime and yet the media and the government some are treating it like an espionage to. be a lawyer for. the russian a woman accused of being

a kremlin agent in the us tells r t the case is being blown out of proportion. full bullet in the head it with my colleague kevin but right now it's time for cross talk where they debate how trump's policy of america first might impact in the u.s. and the world stay with us. hello and welcome to all things considered i'm peter lavelle on this edition of crossfire we consider one question is donald trump america first policy in contradiction to the washington consensus idea of american exceptionalism the answer to this question will likely define presidency and change the world in the

process. proselyting american exceptionalism i'm joined by my guest michael flanagan in washington he's president of flanagan consulting and a former congressman in charlotte so we have david swanson he is the director of world beyond war dot org and in northwood we cross to introduce paul maher he is a professor of international politics at city university london all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciated let me go to david first because he's written a book on the topic titled curing exceptionalism ok we have about a year and a half of this presidency i'm getting a pretty good idea what america first means in the mind of donald trump and i know be very well what american exceptionalism is and i'm i'm not a big proponent of it. are is donald trump incompatible with his american firsts

policies with washington's insistence. and digging their heels in very deep that american exceptionalism must be maintained go ahead david in charlottesville. i guess the short answer is no i don't see it look at what donald trump does in terms of foreign policy in terms of continuing u.s. imperialism and he is dropping more bombs he is building more bases he is getting more military spending out of congress demanding more of military spending out of europe shipping weapons to more places including ukraine continuing to insist on the u.s. right to do what it wants in places like ukraine and nicaragua and around the world he's not switching policies allowing the people of afghanistan or nicaragua or anywhere else to decide their own fate i mean the changes are all rhetorical and and in terms of mannerisms and style people in. people

abroad outside the united states who see him as radically dif. because he blurts out things he doesn't act on like nato is obsolete seems to me as superficial as people within the united states who say the people the vote in crimea to rejoin russia was the big threat to peace and stability in the rule of law of the past centuries. looking at actions rather than at. ment's i don't see it continuing us policy but the good points made there michael none the less we we have the reaction of where you are this the epicenter of the swamp they see trump is being very much a threat to the outlook that has been cultivated and inforced i would point out since the end of the second world war particularly since the end of the cold war so

i mean michael is right on all these points here but that's not how the people that we used to run the show see it that way and they're pushing back against them in very very severe very peculiar ways and in particular using the media to push against him go ahead michael. yeah i think the swamp has a collectivist view definitely denies american exceptionalism writs small and that is america has the best workers in the world and we have an exceptional view of our future and we are we yourselves as is the shining light of the world and then you have experiment exceptionalism written large which is a matter of foreign policy means that we'll run the world. the i think writ small trump is a huge champion of that written large i think your other guest is correct is he's not he's not a big champion of america run the world in the sense that we will make foreign policy for the world but we will behave any way we need to to protect our security and that that is often irrespective of what nicaragua wants or what what anybody

else wants and i think trump is definitely a proponent of that the swamp would rather have us collectively sit with the european powers basically you know europe almost exclusively and and discuss what we need to do around the world while we pay the freight and they make the decisions and i think trump is trying to bring an end to that by threatening nato not not as an institution like eisenhower did by the way in his presidency but to say that it's not an organization that we're going to support exclusively and move on forward with interchange a you know i think combined of what we've just heard from michael and david so america first american exceptionalism they have to find the worst possible elements of both and they're being can bind that's what i've gotten from this conversation so far go ahead and norwood northwood i don't think i would violate li disagree with. the you just. i think american exceptionalism is a is

a particular kind of nationalism and that nationalism as attached to it a great sense of the uniqueness and superiority and to a large degree insoles of that line but it's behind certain kinds of values and. where president trump probably it differs from is previous esas president obama and george w. bush as well is that in a way he's he's rejected the rhetoric of values of democracy or human rights and promoting those kind of liberal values in favor of the kids are so i would say that that's the principal difference between those two there is also a strategic disagreement as well and i think that largely is around. the relationship that the united states or president trump is building with russia and the bigger geopolitical picture i think which he has in his mind possibly by

and reconsider the home secretary of state about some kind of a possible russian chinese splits and i think there's a big disagreement about that but that's a strategic question of the overall united states continue to exert its up but i think the rhetoric around values i think president trump doesn't have any time he's much more about asserting the war are out of the dollar or of the trade of market access and of the american military ok well david i mean it i guess in a way trump is probably more honest than his predecessors because he doesn't talk about democracy promotion as you know but that it's always been a cover and i think only people in the swamp actually believe in that rhetoric anymore forcefully bringing democracy to the world i don't see where it works no one's ever empirically proven it to me but our but so really it's the same thing where if it's american exceptionalism with a different rhetoric i guess you know that makes a lot of sense go ahead david. that's exactly right the rhetoric has changed

a lot more than the substance of the disagreement between the make america great again people and the america already has great people is not around the need for the united states to have double standards and a set of laws only for itself and superiority the rest of the world that is universally agreed upon in washington the disagreements around rhetoric around domestic policies and around russia and the demand from the from the democrats i wouldn't dignify it by calling it strategic it's more trying to explain hillary clinton's loss and hating anything trump does so if he threatens north korea that crazy if he fails to threaten russia that's crazy you know that the disagreement is is around this this mythical story of the evil deeds of russia and their gargantuan significance in the in the context of the good us law abiding behavior

and there you know you can give trump credit for refusing to bow to the russia gaiters otherwise i give him very little credit for anything. as he continues disastrous policies that are taking this country and the rest of the world over a cliff you know again. the rhetoric is is certainly different but and some of the actions are too i mean i don't think any of us really took seriously that there would be a meeting with kim so soon nothing much came of it and now he wants to meet with the iranian leader a days before in capital letters on twitter threatening and i mean michael how do you explain that or is that just expediency the midterms it's the here and now and worry about the implications later because i mean from the on the outside looking in this is very confusing and we're supposed to be experts to be able to figure this stuff out go ahead michael. i think one of the hallmarks of trump's foreign policy is that it's trump it's not

a collective view of the state department with way and this from d o d and other places and intelligence it's trump it's and he's proven to be fairly adept at it so far however you may may or may not like the outcomes he's gotten in with korea he's reworked trade agreements in europe and elsewhere some of it has been to our total benefit some of it has been conciliatory benefit. we enjoy a relationship with china we haven't had and maybe ever. i don't know that what he's doing is confusing bad evil wrong or fattening but what i do know is that it's in his head and it's been working with us far. talking diplomatic level and so i'm not prepared to throw it over just because i don't understand no you know i get on with that which i don't understand i can't i get your point maybe i get your point i mean in the way he sees the world here and his base and i think it may go back to northwood here it seems to me. even a year a year and

a half in the dawn of time doesn't have a lot of interest in foreign policy he's made a group of promises on the stump and he's committed to realizing each one of them i've never seen it a president so adamant going through his checklist ok is it really his that he is. idea of american exceptionalism american for us is it really does domestic politics driving it for him. well i think you're right i mean there is a very very great interest in domestic politics and he has made a whole lot of promises and as you say i think the first thing the steve bannon do when the edge of the white house is it's a lives or wants to put up a white board and put a whole lot of the promises made and and stop taking them off of but i think the foreign policy perspective the president trump ours is one of increasing american power and extracting as much of value economically commercially financially and so on from our allies associated powers own former enemies and i think all that is

down to who's our long term idea that america has been ripped up and i think if you look at domestic politics and the kind of people you defined as or americans. he basically said he wants a message that you have been ripped off white american men in particular by women by minorities by immigrants and so on and you lost status of what he's going to do or restore american greatness and again going to just going to many areas of mail or home and we have other americans we are abroad i have a large brain reserve sort of after i am very short break we'll continue our discussion on american exceptionalism stay with. most of the people in the last month variously on the bombing we were in

the number calling this. all day it's clearly answers all of those him a lot. of the growth as and. that also i think you would not outsource. thank. you. kentucky. you're going to agree. no coal mines left. all the. people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking

when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's how it's happened. to. come across like where all things are considered i'm peter we're discussing american exceptionalism.

ok david you know ever since trump entered that the oval office a lot of it's been trying to understand if there's a rhyme or reason to his foreign policy and i think that even on this program it's kind of coming together it seems to me it's kind of like going back to the nineteenth century great powers competition without all the. that they were pushed since the second world war it just it's just really kind of brute power and it vantage and looking for competitive advantage and it's very brusque and it seems to appeal just as interested pointed out to us in the first part of the program it does appeal to his base go ahead david. yeah i think you know it appears to be all donald trump but just as you know reagan and gorbachev came out of the meeting and were told by their advisers no no no you can't get rid of nuclear weapons every time trump has

a good idea like get rid of nafta or rid of nato he talks to his advisors and it's off the table i think that it was actually an actual break with us exceptionalism is not on the agenda of donald trump or his advisors i mean it would look like joining the international criminal court joining the convention on the rights of the child joy in the united states is party to fewer major human rights treaties then almost any other nation on earth it would mean giving up the veto at the united nations it would mean getting out of afghanistan there's a promise i'd like to keep i mean this is a guy who promised no more of these wars and bomb their family you know kill their families bomb the bleep out of them so it's easy to say he's keeping his promise because he promised black and white but the ones i'd like him to keep he's not keeping as well as you know a few like building the wall and locking up hillary that i don't necessarily need him to keep either but this is not this is a guy who thinks he's running the world and it's dangerous to what extent he is but

he's not overruling the weapons dealers or the big players in washington d.c. you know yeah michael in this that seems to be very contradictory because he said in interviews that the united states shouldn't be the policeman of the world but in fact it remains the same ok and particularly you know i mean if you look at the korean peninsula i mean a peace between the koreas. or ization maybe the american troops could go home there'd be no reason from the be there and then the entire foreign policy elite has their hair on fire like oh my god please don't let it break out it'll change our world ok i mean it seems to me he just go on really up against the street you know against the the stream there and he keeps coming out with these ideas i mean you know i said earlier i mean you know threatening iran in the most course way and then say i'd like to meet you in no condition preconditions i mean the outside

looking in finds that very very confusing i mean the rains have already said through their aides is that while we sit down with someone that broke a country that broke a treaty that we just signed only a few years ago i mean i how does that show that america leading go ahead michael. you know it wasn't a treaty and they didn't sign anything but that's that's a semantic problem we have been able to know well it's an international has agreed i mean no they were. it's multilateral it wasn't just with the americans ok go ahead. but i think the the the the point you're making is good and it's correct but it it stops and i think that's what we have to focus on is that the goals his foreign policy goals are as the professor correctly observed although i think for two reasons different than he observes and that is that we are interested in better trade we are interested in exercising our trade power and to increase american presence and wealth at home and american exceptionalism america

first through trade treaties through trade work as opposed to naked aggression and use of foreign power which other presidents have used obama was soundly criticized on the right for wanting to meet with the iranians with no preconditions i find it interesting that my brothers on the right don't have a problem with trump doing the same thing i just i just throw that out as an observation well i mean i think that you know but michael. but hang on michael i mean in the same week basically threatening hostilities with the rand and then saying you want to meet with preconditions you don't have to worry about your friends on the left or right you have to try to figure out what the president is talking about ok that's not my point and you know this was the same. you know your point is right but this is the same tactic we took with north korea you know little camera man blah blah blah you know terrible person going to face the earth are going to blow us off a stare at the next thing you know we're meeting in singapore this is the art of the deal this is a part of the tactics of moving forward this is part of the noise involved in

making the deal and making the negotiation and doing the work and it's trump he is unique he is rare he is something we haven't seen before the swamp can't make head or tail out of them and nor can anyone else and this goes back to my earlier point which was just buckle up just as you've observed many times peter buckle up and you're just going to have to wait to see how a boils out will do their best to keep their arm around it i just don't know how it's going to work out ok brace for impact ok let me go back to you here then and then ok so what is the justification for the united states being in afghanistan it's not bringing democracy there anymore apparently what what what how is what's the justification for the illegal behavior of the united states in syria is it bringing democracy there anymore it's not apparently so why are they still there so i mean this makes it very patently obvious that just brute force beyond international law this is what trump it is opening up to go ahead. well i think you

know when we look at the big picture of global change we have a whole range of new emerging powers some of which are very very powerful economically and increasingly powerful militarily and they're looking around the world for resources and they're looking to increase their influence in order to protect their lines of communication china for example is building the one built one road initiative which is going to be on the right across from china all the way to spain and include the indian ocean you've got non-state actors like isis and other organizations also challenging the stabilizing allies and other regimes as well and i think what really does present trump is trying to do is effectively grapple with the same problem which post cold war president so i've tried to outline which is the whole world environment has changed the big difference i think with president from things he doesn't really look at the idea of enjoyment of building an orderly system or an ordered

a rules based system or rather he wants to open it up he wants to loosen it up and he wants to make it more transactional so i think what he's trying to do is say look we've got this big international series of regimes america's been ripped off it's paying too much it's has too many large deficits with everybody and what we're going to do is we're going to flex our national sprint and try to read negotiate our position within it and effectively the board and the everybody else. ok. ok again like i said it looks like it's going back to the great powers of the nineteenth century without all of the rhetoric at least it's more transparent david you you mentioned russia is it really worth it for trump to go down this path that we had the helsinki summit i was critical of the president's delivery at the press conference like i was and in singapore is well it's not his forte it's got to work on his game there and then he wanted another summit and then walked blocked it back

the russians and invited him to moscow why is this so important to him is it a campaign promise or is it just you know the media hates it when he does that and that he just pushes back to show that i am president i'm going to do what i want to do what is his fascination here go ahead david. well i think there is is all kinds of pressure on him to meet with and work with russia and to not do so and to treat russia as having attacked the united states and started a war and to engage in war with russia and everywhere in between i think that it's appropriate that the united states and russia as the major nuclear weapons powers meet and get rid of those damn things before they destroy us i think it's critical for the united states and russia as two of the nations doing the most to destroy our natural environment to meet and start reversing all the policies david that's not so much of the agenda. i mean complete agreement with you in this they would

they would hear what why it seems to me that. engagement with russia should come out very clear twitter is fine with me i need to deal with a lot of near putin to sign a new arms control agreement it's about to expire in two thousand and twenty one this is what's most important to all of humanity why can't it it's right that i mean that is very straight forward and you know what david it's transact. action of what trump is supposed to be all about go ahead david well it would make perfect sense it would fit with some of his agenda of body it is not where he comes from it's not something he knows anything about it's not something he's hired anybody to keep around him who would advise him to do and it's the has got the us media and the democrats and half the public screaming at him not to do anything cooperative with russia even if it kills us all so it's not shocking that he hasn't

come out with that position of but he should heat. the world and russia should be pushing him in that direction ok all right michael. where does he go from this from his russia gambit now i mean he's put it off until next year because of the midterms it's because he can't do anything transactional because just like david said perfect crystal clear even trying to save humanity he's the boogie man donald trump is evil incarnate even if he wants to save humanity that's a problem in the united states that's a problem with american exceptionalism forty seconds to you michael my friend last word. real quick and i promise to stay and save my time what the trump never telegraphs what he's going to do will make promises in a campaign context he'll have elude to things in a domestic policy context he's never going to say up front what he's going to do it's one of his huge criticisms of his predecessors and so because he hasn't said

it's there doesn't mean it's not going to be there and he's had some surprises foreign policy wise stuff no one expected but it was always part of his design and i think that we just have to buckle up and wait well you know that's why i call you one of my donald trump sharpers that was a very good answer i like that that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests in washington charlottesville and in northwood and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time and remember. you like the antics and you can take your pick so your body and the body continues

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don't because i'm in here and you know other than four years ago i'm going to go is going. to go where no one here but really rich or poor people growth rates are below. so. we're now in the home. as i was eighteen years old it was around me and how it works in a coma for five years and every two years service me i'm a waiter here and. take. my two hours and thirty cents an hour bus to it and says that how much around the world. are very good. there's not as much money in the town. for my doing here i just got out of jail my. possession of stolen

property. i'm not here. jails jail. as. a feature three times a day. for t.v. . l.s.d. . i don't. all those things you. hear with me. it's no. good so. wake. me up. this is how i was teenager smith and jones and screams this is through the roof these places really slow and the story carried

a pistol in us. enough carried we'll never see us in the steel. wool i've learned later oh i. just tell him that way. well. i'm the gun guy here the pawn shop here for the past five years we take everything from you know d.v.d.'s to. boat motors or whatever you want to magine we have some motorcycles smoking mining equipment like this say we would take a lot of that stuff you would sell a four hundred dollar mining helmet maybe once a week the lights daily but the fact of the mining mines are shut down makes it

difficult to sell that stuff because these were so these were being sold to personal miners for their own use they're not in mining anymore course they're not buying it. like mine. here. where all of them are very accounting. ever. in the states is tough today it's hard to see any traces of the turbulent past there once made hard in the tories. the county is still mostly dry and was one for years people used to make moonshine knowledge drugs are in the rice a trust painkillers prescribed by doctors to treat danger and six miners now i'll ask a prime d'antin yes. there's a lot of people here this is

a big fish region are. there he said then. in three minutes anything that makes him feel better and they think that makes him feel better. we have a lot of problems with items that are coming in that are stolen. maybe not just from drug users would. it is a problem and i say guinness desperation to try to get some money to maintain a habit you know and i think since all this you know the mining and depression of the mining everything it's caused. a rising pills. it's the pills are the new alcohol. you're talking about the forty inch in the. forty's and fifty's. so in the fifty's well we made sold. here in december we picked cocoa berries but the race we'll be able to hope for as we carry in brazil yourself or dollar again. the black berries will go to border again but we get

a list you know all. muddy from there to close and some truth for them where they're. mostly what without choice in the food was cordoned. lowered. so they would go a bit they'll be withheld so. flat. in the beginning that would only have to take a few hours and they wanted them last and it towards the end of my credit they. found its way in. and maybe before they switched. to the ones in jail. i went for a feed you know and they hand it to sales now and i have with the jobs or ground and. said i'm down now the coal mines are said. live to

come mars is alive and they shared a van with people. in poverty. its own work. i want the same road scientists found their push tiny walked. and works from the opening parent. after his book come to my mind. it was nineteen eighty eight my fifth visit to harlan county i was on the winding road from harlan to our birds driving a borrowed pickup truck when i began to notice the road kill it was a dangerous road with more than its share of adventures drivers and it was getting dark. i began to think of the many ways in which that was a presence in this land that any more of their road accidents and of course the corn mines beyond and black lung.

returning to new york living behind harlan in an endless rain. i tried to put together the pieces sober remotes were to i only got a glimpse off. my own with wonder where all that energy came from. the energy that lights up the luxury. there was leaving his whole bar is worth when hurt is little girls green. all daddy dear dad he plays golf away when they're both good little with. all they don't go to the. bar drew. on come true. oh oh daddy dear daddy plays doll away where you have

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be. the only. this is. the church secret indeed catholic priests accused of sexually abusing children can get away with it literally i like to call this the do graphic solution so what the bishop needs to do then he finds out that the priest is is a perpetrator is simply moves him to a different spot where the previous standard was not the highest ranks of the

catholic church conceal the accused priests from the police and justice system to that end if that's so nasty and then i think you'll hear that it used to sadden. itself that. russia is one of the countries that most buy capacity and all the very high population does that mean russia does need to be concerned about sustainability i would say yes absolutely you are no lucky situation where you have a lot of farm per person so to say you know you have a lot of wealth it a logical wealth and but the word is very scarce so that's a huge economic advantage as well and saying wow this is an amazing farm let's look after it well because that's said that both of them able us to live well the long run.

some for something. and they use indigenous people as you know we that the in. the cloud. i mean. most politicians scientists that only. came. out of a sudden a man just. told we heard general. i said i will enter it begin if they will not allow and. if they will shoot me. out all along a million million indeed on of them not to be on the nominee be indicted b.t.w. don't punish your manana and i got a guy who got me to ok like i mean you got me are you.

this morning at the social media warfare the u.s. senate unveils how it thinks russia is allegedly swearing opinion in america it believes posting funny viral images online is enough to change the course of an election. a lot of pride pride related content less news more memes. coming up nato develops a game to teach players how to spot fake news while critics say it's simply a propaganda tool. personal data from millions of refugees in jordan is being harvested in a high tech operation to perfect recognition technology journalist of the red fish group averse to get ethical it is. a fundamental principle that. is informed comes

. in every level throughout the world. and german sports were joined at it does says it no longer want to work with the radio and football federation just of months after rival nike did the say. hi there good morning you're watching r.t. international live with me kevin owen a.t.m. you know moscow this thursday the second of august first in this bulleted with the u.s. midterm elections approaching the issue of cyber security has come to the fore in washington again the senate intelligence committee is held a hearing on how best to counter what it sees the rusher problem and other countries in the alleged attempts to interfere in america's domestic affairs but that's just a day after facebook took down instagram and facebook accounts which it said aimed

to influencing voters caleb maupin has more on this big story. russian information warfare in our own backyard after election day the russian government stepped on the gas the russians in this case and others see us as a cheap date the russian activity seeks to turn the normal differences of opinion among americans into headlines about unbridgeable political divisions the russian government came into the house of the american family and manipulated us as you might suspect the story goes on the same way we've heard it many times before essentially russia is accused of encouraging controversy in the united states around issues like immigration and guns racism and all kinds of other things. as cyber attacks remain us remain a core part of moscow's arsenal content is created tested and hosted on platforms

such as you tube read it and pinterest its push to twitter and facebook with their standing audiences in the hundreds of millions and it's targeted at the most receptive this is a problem of the entire information ecosystem this is cross-platform reddit confirm hundreds of ira created accounts tumblr did it now one thing that's lacking in this report just like in so many other similar reports is that any solid actual evidence . can you estimate the number of americans touched by russian linked activity in this area. you know that is very difficult to do and i'm concerned that even after eighteen months of study we are still only scratching the surface when it comes to russia's information warfare in their effort to influence the american mind apparently the kremlin has one very very

powerful weapon. a lot of pride pride related content less news more memes this isn't just a couple of platforms this is music apps this is video games this is me i'm sure and it's much broader than twitter and google in the portrait that the testimony painted on capitol hill you essentially got the impression that americans minds are very easily manipulated that all it takes to influence the way americans think about world events and politics is to give them a video game on a computer or a meme to look at and all the sudden their minds are changed now repeatedly during the hearings we heard members of congress expressing frustration with the american people saying that they were angry that the american students weren't just listening to what they called the good sources and were instead listening to other other news outlets other other voices expressing different views out from there we also heard a call interesting lee for classes on media literacy to be given in american

schools so that americans can know what news outlets they should be listening to and what news outlets they should not be listening to. there is a need to build resilience in target populations this will include long term effort to implement media literacy training and integrate such training into classrooms their e interesting it was quite a day on capitol hill. well meantime speaking about media literacy nato has come up with it so way of teaching it to youngsters the alliance has released a facebook game called amusia row players as opposed to learn how to separate truthful stories from those pesky fake ones and this is try to help. welcome to nato's new online weapon against misinformation it's the news hero i promised myself to report only the truth join me on my quest to filter the news some of the headlines about the game might imply that its developers have a bone to pick with russia but on closer inspection it seems it doesn't have that

much russian fake news to decipher you might have thought that needle's lot fear based strategic communications center of excellence could dig up something better especially given the lengths that went two hours to your trying to prove that russian t.v. comedy was really an undercover propaganda machine and of course there is nato's deep seated suspicion of all things russian we don't accept cyber. we will not counter. we more. we have to be able to counter this information with facts but it made those new virtual reality world passion seem slightly more subdued to enter a rather suspiciously empty and slow paced newsroom where you are the news editor in charge of deciding which reports are real and which are not by clicking on a folder with news stories in it company wide repetitive elevator music.

it's not yet clear how successful the game is and fighting fake news since you have to collect enough likes to be considered a viral success and so far it's had mixed reviews getting an a for effort from some users but dismissed as a propaganda tool by others all you need to enjoy the game is a facebook account and sign off your facebook info to the alliance in the process as they say turkey now r.t. london. the fate of the brics a deal between britain and the still very much up in the air with the debate provoking some peculiar person u.k. officials now the latest is british foreign secretary gerry hunt claimed in a radio interview that vladimir putin would be the only person celebrating a no deal break city. if we end up with no deal the only person rejoicing will be vladimir putin well it seems that blaming the world's woes on the russian presence become pretty much a staple for the media and politicians in the west these days. president

putin's actions is to drive wages it is to drive division in the line. easily news stream see you as a political. tech

company and banking very much for being accused of using millions of refugees in jordan as guinea pigs in a race to perfect new face recognition technology the displaced people are obliged to have their iris scan before they get food aid the red fish investigative group want to see how this biometric data is being harvested. really. how people using the body parts is extremely invasive in two thousand and thirteen the un announced its partnership with british jordanian iris my company i restored they began rolling out and i respect ignition and payment system that meant refugees could withdraw money and shop with a blink of an eye refugees jordan's two biggest camps. have to biometrically register their irises in order to receive eight fundamental principle that we go by

is informed consent. for iris guard to deal meant access to millions of refugees huge market to trial its technology and while it gives the technology to the u.s. for free iris card make a cool one percent from every transaction made via its ip system which could explain why bankers goldman sachs recently invested an undisclosed sum in iris card companies like goldman sachs making on the close deals with iris cord who are in charge of both the three refugees transaction iris guard was called founded by one of jordan's wealthier families including actually with a master. on their advisory board you've got none other than ex national security adviser to george w. bush. former head of m i six richard dear love both of whom are advocates of the

war in iraq when i think of what it's like there are guinea pigs. this is. the fact that the boys are going to ration with people from. this team took part in the war and is more than. because. i had a heated exchange about this with the c.e.o. of iris guard with dealing with a highly secure technologies we would be idiots if we do not ask people who are professionals in their field are there professionals i don't want to worry you you are asking me about your political question from cancer understand this is a fact we are not involved in any political statements we are not making any statements and you do you think do you. because you are a man political company we have it work at the margin political i understand but

they are not political do you understand you do understand that they understand security or do. the creators of the software and hardware iris guard are the only ones who know how it works and we just have to take their word for. it the collection of iris scans and biometric data isn't new but using refugees that have no real choice but to hand over their information in exchange for receiving aid on this scale is unprecedented and as yet there remain many unanswered questions is the tech safe is it secure who has access to it and who really benefit could it be that's what started as a forced experiment on refugees injured dainian camps could soon be coming to an eye or a.t.m. near you. as a footnote to this i can tell you right now the irish guard advisory board didn't immediately

respond to our requests for comment but goldman sachs did reply didn't say very much they simply said they had nothing to. do so that africa's ruling party committee don't choose day to amending the constitution to allow the state to seize land from farmers without paying compensation for it the plans be met with sharp criticism from white farmers who've called a catastrophic is some of the backlash that's appeared on mine. and we are going to live happily ever after south africa doesn't have a land problem it has a political problem this is disgraceful what an appalling situation in south africa where are all those protesters didio ainsley explain to you that you won't be owning the land but will be renting it from them and it won't be for free currently over two decades on from the end of apartheid white farmers still own the lion's share of the country's local culture lead the african national congress the

country's ruling party has been buying up some of it for redistribution however opinion among lawmakers a shifted in the majority now support taking land without offering any compensation for it but for that the constitution has to be changed that is the move that president ramaphosa now wants to push ahead with he says the amendment to help drive economic growth is likely to happen comprehensive land reform program. economic growth by bringing in more and in south africa to full use and enable the productive participation of millions more south africans in the economy however the head of the south african cultural union told us that confiscating land is going to scare off investors. the huge problem with poverty and unemployment and for us this is a pity that they make these choices because no one will invest in this economy and we need growth to actually agrees to reality so south africa so we have great

concern about this approach will really a lot of foreign countries already contact us as an organization and say you know that will be the case we are not willing to be nice in your country anymore i can give you a lot of examples of people already stopped investing in south africa and that's a starting point of economic growth until now it's a first time that they make this promises to the public because they need it for the election i think the if he's busy challenging the do much on the other try to say things self and that these what's going on now. fifteen am in moscow good morning still to come this thursday morning with me kevin know it much more including the possible reasons why a leading german sports probably seems less and less enthusiastic these days to play ball with the ram. is like the easy fix and if you take your picks out your body and the body continues on it's just an appendage. so this is what people don't understand is

that the u.k. leaving the e.u. the e.u. continues on great but if you take the appendix out the body is going to weather and travel and die because it has nobody to exist anymore and this is what's happening in the u.k. and it's going to be a lot of fun to watch because there's a living beyond their means for somebody here. in a world with a big part of the law and conspiracy it's talking to where to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever. to be smart or we need to stop slamming the door on the show because past each other. it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks.

again sportswear firm seem to be losing their appetite for the iranian market these days when germany's at it does now saying it's no longer going to work with the iranian football federation some reports claim the decisions dictated by u.s. sanctions against iran double quarter reports. one by one business giants are cutting ties with iran and the latest is german sportswear company adi das the company said it's no longer going to do business with the iranian national football team and that didn't exactly go down well with tehran. given the improper indyk or a step taken by added s.a.g. with regards the sacred name of deer around on its website it is necessary to take punitive measures against such conduct the violates human rights and signed a contract with an alternative prior to the start of the asian football confederation asian cup we took to the streets of tehran to find out what iranians

think about us as decision sure it. is nothing is impossible to. prove that they contradict their own slowly i believe with the little dorrit illiterate so first of all i believe there is no need for us to introduce politics into sport it is a nasty thing to do there is no sense in a country like the us or any other country trying to force this. world is that they have lost already because we asked us to comment on the reasons for the decision but they declined to give any details the company's move comes hot on the heels of nike's decision not to sell football boots to the iranian world cup team but the iranian played admirably at the world cup and its supporters took to ridiculing nike's motto.

unlike with nike's motives for leaving the iranian national team without any gear were quite clear they just couldn't do it and they fell in line with u.s. sanctions without much of a fight. u.s. sanctions mean that as a u.s. company knight cannot supply shoes to players in the iranian national team at this time sanctions applicable to have been in place for many years and are enforceable by along with the us threatening further sanctions even more american and european companies appear unwilling to deal with iran that's despite the fact that since the trump administration sanctions announcement e.u. officials pledge to support and protect european business it's up and put to work as the european commission we have the juicy to protect european companies so we know me to wax

a lot of old you know detail mean we are determined to fight so that the decisions taken by the united states have no repercussions for the french businesses that invest and have invested in iran top e.u. officials even wrote a letter pleading with the u.s. to exclude european companies from the penalties and the state department's response it's our way or the highway we are asking every nation every nation who is sick and tired of this one republican destructive behavior to join our pressure campaign this especially goes for allies in the middle east and europe easy for him to say especially when many are saying the e.u. will bear the economic brunt of cutting off ties with iran but for now it remains to be seen whether impossible is truly nothing for the bloc. you know but for the foundation for peace the future research says it's the u.s. this pressing european companies are still dealing with. you see the united states is now bullying european companies and governments selling their messages putting pressure on them to stop any kind of corporation with iran it's

a very nasty thing to do because it is suffocating eighty five million people and their lives after having done this since seventy nine at some point it should be enough i must say it's outpouring it's it's narrow minded and it's very sad to see that there are a number of countries who will not have any kind of since or what they do politically in the belief that they can have more politics now i can maybe understand that for american companies but i have no respect for the idea that european companies and banks should not just do what they do because you. must not must never lied to countries outside the united states. and southwest of syria a large military operations are full swing right now as government forces try to drive militants from rebels from two provinces we asked russia's envoy to syria what's still has to be done and before a full victory could be declared. with us the use of a will there are only two areas where i saw militants are still quite active

although there are not many of them first of all in a fifty five kilometer long area that's controlled by the u.s. . is located there around sixty thousand people live there now there are many i saw militants who were there under the guise of refugee my personal opinion is that the americans have got themselves into a deadlock a trap is that well it's very now as they've always told us fighting against i so it turns out that i saw militants also settled in this area there one thousand seven hundred of them and they can occupy the u.s. military base within hours maybe days another place where i saw militants are quite active although there are not many of them and maybe want to see thousand people is located on the syria iraq border on the eastern bank of euphrates river which is controlled by the kurd. teenage palestinian activist and head to mimi made headline. in december last year you may recall she was rested and sentenced to eight months in jail after kicking and slapping an israeli soldier while the

seventeen year old was released this week told r.t. doesn't regret or actions either. it's hard to put my experience into words i can't even explain how oppressed i felt while i was there i hope nobody ever goes through what i went through but i'm glad i ended up there for my beliefs and i'm ready to go to prison one hundred more times if it serves the good of my country i had to cope with a lot of bad news at the time the many arrests of my relatives and friends including my brother sometimes it was too much to handle but the death of my cousin hit me the hardest while i was in jail the prison administration tried to shut down the classes we were attending that was a low blow to but we pulled through we managed these unfortunate events united us we started to look after each other like sisters do our love and care for each other helped us be stronger in tough situations. she reacted to the actions of israeli soldiers that she claimed the soldier shot at a cousin who was convicted of aggravated assault on obstructing the soldiers is just a once again the video of that instant that went viral. it's

. not. fair. for its part israel's claim those soldiers were simply trying to provoke palestinians from throwing stones at israeli motorists it treats actions as a criminal offense so the threat to the military is to terence policy calling her a provocateur she hopes instantly to become a lawyer one day lead cases against israel. i knew they could arrest me it's a common practice when your people live under israeli oppression but i did nonetheless since it was the soldier who shot at my brother when he was already wounded in the face and nearly died because of it this was the same soldier who fired teenagers near where i live this was the same. soldier who put me behind bars besides the situation was critical when i did what i did as it was the time when trump recognized jerusalem as israel's capital it was

a hard time and i think it had an impact on what i did at the end of the day. i will continue studying at university i wanted to quartz is an international law so that i can become a lawyer and stand up for my country also i hope for all the imprisoned palestinians to walk free soon i would like to say this to all of the prisoners i'm with you i want them to know that i love them and miss them and that it will never forget the. two tribes in the maybe or in southwest africa or something to see germany the second compensation an official apologies two for the alleged genocide by german colonialists over one hundred years ago and we should set it takes of the story. germany still shows signs of its dark imperial past this is looted it's to us are named after a dull flu that it has stopped the very first colony german south west africa also known as the maybe in the early one nine hundred stehman settlers violently seize

land from local citizens leading to one of the centuries west genocides. the here are a nation must now leave the country if it refuses i shall come palate to do so with a long queue and a hair of found inside the german frontier with or without a gun or cow will be executed i shall spare me the women not children. today's hereright unama communities still mourn the deaths of the eighty thousand

people with losses that battling for the chairman government to pay for the crimes committed you plan to use or know what people how to commit holocaust. and then you simply can't be sixty eight on that use. i just in the new beat it's not british. but because we dip into different skin color i speak. the german government you see for us. it's only in apology. in the to. even the apology came a century late with the german economic cooperation and development minister close to tears when she spoke about it in two thousand and four. we dream and acknowledge our historical political moral and ethical responsibility and the guilt the germans brought upon themselves but the government stepped in saying the minister was

speaking as a private citizen and not representing chamisa position it took over a decade more for belin to officially acknowledged the crimes of the past the war of extermination in the media from one hundred forty nine where it was a war crime and genocide the movie has received hundreds of thousands of euro's from germany perhaps a source of info right way of compensation but that's not enough for the tribes last year to merit a number of representatives for the north suit in new york saying they wanted to be part of the official talks between germany and the maybe a saying it was the only way to ensure justice what happened in south africa was a genocide not while ation a violation of the war and germany is not. really. completely held accountable you just unique in the sense that you can find a region extermination order that just issued by germany. to extend its time is there will be historians to say just look at the mix they will make

a difference of this case history will believe even if they when it might encourage other indigenous groups to take action against format european colonial overlords which could see the likes of britain france and the netherlands pay a high price to pass chains and issues at the r.t. bell and. on to the coal face book twitter are up so much more for most twenty four seventh's so many ways to keep in touch with what we've got lined up here are two international for now though it's just after eight twenty nine of them all use the cover that would have moscow say thanks for watching and have a great day review watching around the world.

russia is one of the countries that most buy capacity in all the very high population does that mean russia does need to be concerned about this inability i would say yes absolutely you are lucky situation where you have a lot of farm so to say you know you have a lot of wealth ecological wealth and but the word is very scarce so that's a huge economic advantage as well and saying wow this is an amazing farm let's look after it well because that's our it said that the naval us to live well in the long run. greetings and salutation. the u.s. economy is booming hawk watchers yes that is at least that's what we've been told these last few months over and over and over again headline after headline talking

head after talking had from the wall street journal to forbes to c n b c even the white house has been trumpeting the u.s. economy declaring on its web site quote jobs jobs jobs the american economy is booming but buried underneath all those bold headlines and talking head fawning something feels i don't know something is feels a little off because while the economy booms for some we are also seeing some very disturbing trends and things that we don't like to talk about at parties like the news that a homeless census in seattle washington recently uncovered the number of people residing in campers and other vehicles surged forty six percent over the past year in fact according to governing dot com americans living out of their cars isn't unique to just the city of seattle washington matty quinn reports that there's been a boom in vehicular homelessness especially out on our loved. the left coast where

ransom skyrocketed in the number of homeless people who don't live in shelters is up twenty thousand from twenty seventeen but with more and more us citizens being forced to live out of their cars due to increasing rent heavy debt low wages and an affordable cost of living what are they going to do when the national law center on homelessness and poverty is reporting that across the country the number of prohibitions against a vehicle residency has more than doubled during the last decade. it appears that the ghost of tom joad still haunts the american highways and cities as we start watching the hawks. to. get the. real deal with. the plot of. the day like you that i got. with. the.

welcome or want to watch in the heart i robot and downtown of the last. tab of the let me i think i have to look at this is true for not only the united states but around the world as well so pay attention our international friends and family. what good is a booming economy have only a small small percentage of the population can actually enjoy it because that's what i think is happening here in the u.s. everyone says oh the economy is going great everyone can get a job but i don't see a lot of people really enjoying this economy the way i saw it back and like the i'd say the eighty's or the ninety's like when people were fine and having a great time yeah i would say that you can't have it's not a booming economy if only a small percentage of your population which is in our case mostly the one percent

or that top one point zero zero percent or whatever the ninety the rest of the ninety nine percenters are not. they're not doing as well and that to me is like you don't have a booming economy as you said there's tons of jobs. but there are people to fill them you know were there are so many issues at play here with child birth. immigration and a lot of other things that i think that it's it's absolutely to chris to ask the american people to think agree that there's a booming economy and to believe that while we still have all these what will who are clearly not getting anything out of their cars zooming out of their cars and then getting fines for living oh my god i'm going to ask you why you know. why is this hybrid why are people forced to bring living living like literally there so i can go to a can apartment to get a house i'm going to part of what little i have left and put my car and sleep you know down the sidewalk. that's insane why is this happening oh well it's always

happened it's always been one of those things it's usually best stories i've always heard about artists who come to l.a. and you said it's a very west coast of the united states sort of thing and it's you know actors musicians they live out of their car save money and you know whatever but usually you don't see it leased out in the open but right after two thousand and eight after we have the two thousand and eight crash you did see a lot of people suddenly there were like campsites of people who had lost their homes or their jobs and that these things happen they just happen on the fringes so we don't see them so we think oh it's just happening now people are just living here now casey roach is a program director for new beginnings which is a counseling center that runs safe parking program she told gov a governing dot com the cost of housing is continually rising but social service programs aren't having any increase in funding if anything they're going to people are making a living but it's just not enough and that's the deal there's a gap because of the people at the bottom the bottom seventy five per cent love to

give it some room to say the bottom seventy five percent if their wages aren't going up the prices are still going up because these people making these people richer that bottom seventy five percent you can expect your. base to hold all the weight of your entire domain a lot of people are pulling it out of their you know retire their polling and other savings in the last report after report saying that you know if somebody most american u.s. citizens can't even afford like an extra four hundred dollars a year but if a charge for four hundred dollars comes out of nowhere there they can't they can't cover it and when you have this look people don't know if they should write is a like no you've taken away people's ability to later keep up with you know the economy and be able to buy things and more department but then you're going to say look we're going to throw you we're going to find you maybe throw you in jail living out your car your last thing i mean many homeless advocates you know are now pushing for cities to start considering like safe parking programs or right as

ignorant areas in the city where if you're living on your car be you can go there and park the but the problem is most u.s. cities are exacerbating the problem by criminalizing it the national law center on homelessness and poverty tracks policies in one hundred eighty seven cities across the country and they observe that this is a bad as the permit the bans that permit vehicle impoundment can cause homeless people to lose their shelter transportation and personal belongings in one fell swoop with no realistic option to retrieve replace them so a lot of times like you know parking tickets or things like that will step up then boom they come in or holland your car away it's in the impound lot your car is all of your family possessions you know everything that you care about are going to charge you two hundred dollars a day that it's here that you can't pay it gets more expensive the longer it takes you to come up with the money and that's that's the problem with this and we need to start paying attention to this right now right now no one should be having to

live out of their car. the all powerful all knowing all consuming god that is amazon faces set back recently when it hired when its highly volunteered much discussed artificial intelligence powered facial recognition so. recognition with the k made a slight snafu recently when it incorrectly matched the photos of twenty eight sitting u.s. congressional members to prisoner mug shots yes b.t.r. reports the a.c.l.u. quote took twenty five thousand publicly available police mug shots and then asked recognition to compare those images to photos of all five hundred thirty five members of congress and when the results came in twenty eight lawmakers were positively i.d.d. by recognition as matching the faces of a rusty is no naturally amazon was not too pleased. about the test and a blog post amazon's general manager amount would argue that the a.c.l.u. simply use the default setting on the softer which would be too low for law enforcement needs stating the eighty percent confidence trust holder used by the

a.c.l.u. is far too low to assure the accurate identification of individuals we would expect to see false positives of this level of confidence we were at about ninety nine percent for use cases where highly accurate face similary matches are important but settings aside with amazon's evolvement takeover shopping industry the grocery industry the newspaper industry should we really now trust me law enforcement is free no i mean good lord is there anything that amazon and jeff bezos doesn't have you know. as a fellow bald man little fingertips know and pharmaceuticals because member they bought us a royal company i mean good lord there's a certain point we have to step back and say ok maybe enough was enough and if you're you know brilliant baseball recognition software can only be on the highest of high settings to be trusted in its ability to do what you said it's supposed to be able to do maybe you should get out of the surveillance business too my favorite

part is when amazon says we recommend that for use in cases where highly accurate face similarity matches are important it's a facial recognition program its only job is to. recognize faces at a highly accurate level i would hope you guys i mean look who you are you don't fault your default is doesn't work you know the it doesn't work on default like eighty percent which means it's going to be like this margin of error of what they say is humor said yeah you know i mean it's really what's worse though is in the you still use tell us there was racial bias their own right ramming the algorithm had a racial bias just so the root actually reported that the a.c.l.u. is findings suggest that there was a major racial bias in the software because most of the politicians that were messed identified as criminals i don't think that we shot them to the folks at home were black and latino including. representative john lewis who literally marched

for call it a graceful equality. recognition facial recognition. that usually ok even even the software couldn't even even even a color official intelligence situation and the human intelligence that was giving said if they're black and mighty now they're probably a higher chance that the congress is now. doing this for the congress to suddenly step up of course and say oh what a patient recognition might be bad were targeted were compare and were mistaken for criminals which given our congress i can't really fault facial recognition for failing in that i don't think it's mail that i think exactly what it does really that was sort of a fight lawmakers actually wrote a letter to amazon c.e.o. jeff bezos it was basically addressing the ineffectiveness of the technology and they've asked to come in to provide a list of government agencies using recognition with specific emphasis on law enforcement bodies and intelligence branches now back to congress doesn't know i'm

sorry these are elected officials but they don't know what technology law enforcement is using like they have to ask amazon hey by the way who did just sell this to that's what i find really strange why do you know. no does i'm saying like congress doesn't know what our law enforcement or intelligence communities are using with what we're sub contracting out what were were tax dollars are being spent this is ridiculous so remember the russians are going to get as much as i used to carry it but we got a we got going to be great it's become a war of words because mao would amazon's general manager for deep learning in artificial intelligence great title stated machine learning is a very valuable tool to help law enforcement agencies and while being concerned it's applied correctly we should not throw away the oven because the temperature could be stuck wrong and burn the pizza i know that's a really terrible example because in this example unfortunately you told that your d. fault if you use the auburn to cook

a pizza was the setting that burnt the pizza that your stuffing i look i'm sorry man but guess what if the oven i have at home burns a pizza that's my bad i can have some pizza if your facial recognition puts the wrong guy in jail that's a little bit of a big deal yeah just saying kind of beg to stay and. as we go to break arc watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we've covered on facebook and twitter your poll shows that are to dot com coming up we talk with former green party vice presidential candidate john kerry and dangers of the current nationalism and militarism that is gripping washington d.c. and the country stay tuned for that you.

join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. so you like the easy things and they can take your panics out your body and the body continues on it's just an appendage. so this is what people don't understand is that the u.k. leaving the e.u. the e.u. continues on great but if you take the appendix out of the bodies it's going to wither and trouble and die because it has no body to exist anymore and this is what's happening in the u.k. and it's going to be a lot of fun to watch because they're still living beyond their means or somebody hears that and that's all coming up.

in the wake of russia u.s. president donald trump's recent meeting with russian president vladimir putin turning the cold war fever gripping watching them do you see in corporate newsrooms around the country to eleven when combined with the approval on wednesday by congress of the latest annual defense authorization bill to the tune of seven hundred seventeen billion u.s. tax dollars the calls for peace before bombs are definitely being drowned out of the foreign policy discussion like never before with corporate democrats and republicans alike reaching post nine eleven iraq war nationalist fervor it's important to remember that there are still voices calling for peace and end to him to imperialism one of those voices is former twenty sixteen great party previous presidential candidate and national organizer for the black alliance for peace as on the baraka who recently joined us from cali colombia we started by asking mr

barak a why are we seeing such pushback against peace organizations like his and what does that say about the political activist culture here in the u.s. . i'm going to shortly what it represents is. when you look at the. trajectory of the u.s. and three new political opinion i do. culture you see a a stating consistent mood to the right order last for decades and so it is understandable there are long with that sort of a general mood toward the right. we find that these the so-called left has also moved toward the right. so what we have been in the west today in say. the politics of collaboration in very real ways that is. people who still applies

itself and its left still find themselves on the same side of its events and. they still see themselves taking positions that forty years ago would have been called out for being. a right is position. so you know that is part of the pushback against our efforts and against its hopes to try to rebuild the n.t. or building in this country they want us to. be able to same side of us a pension we instead take a position that our responsibility is to uphold. its inventions are to be spanked it's a national blow as it relates to national sovereignty and to respect the principles of step determination in to allow for people to the south of themselves how they attempt to govern themselves or even make of political change our responsibility is to make sure that this state is not ready in our means of systematically violating

the human rights of people around the world. who you know and i think he i think that's the sad thing that we're seeing more and more to have is this is this violent pushback against peace that any of you say hey maybe i want you know two nuclear superpowers to talk rather than throw insults at each other that. you know that's bad you you're a traitor you're a traitor the most you don't care about your country i said you know crazy idea here i thought we were a country that broke away from monarchy and colonialism and all of these things because we wanted to be a self-governing democracy yes we wanted that as a people yes and we want to protect that right the democracy that means you can't run around telling people but they aren't allowed to hope for peace or that war is better than p.s. that is nonsense and i think it was very accurate when you looked at like you know the last fifty sixty years you see this drift you know from the nineteen seventies

on you see this drift to the right especially and for how to see this very you know hard core we've got to get on well bill clinton and the night the democrats of the ninety's moved everything right in this attempt which worked which was to make the democratic party more palatable so they keep moving toward the middle but the middle became the right they just blew past the middle and kept going well i love this like weird idea that somehow the middle of this country wants to drop bombs on people sorry but i don't know that anybody who is a moderate who thinks dropping bombs is a good idea it sounds to be that's some weird thing that's only codifies washington d.c. circles of like you know the back of their words like oh well the middle they're ok with spending seven hundred billion dollars a year on the war but they're ok with that because the nerve in the middle we move more right well you know you move right you missed the majority the reality is

there's one right in that process you just look at the wisconsin numbers between republicans and democrats on who won the presidential election and it literally swings back to who ever said they were going to get more wars by the way. for the next democrat who is going to look at what's going on and this is the thing that you're also seeing is that john johnson affair pointed out. that the m s n b c coverage i think it's really important thing that we have talked about coverage stormy daniels over four hundred times compare it next to an iraq operation the u.s. involvement the war in yemen and how we are as on what important issues are being ignored or forgotten in the media's obsession over donald trump and rush. one of the things that we've been trying to call attention to the fact that the wow the elements of corporate media along the democrats and the powerful elements. in the

state. keeping their attention on the personality of not a trump just the ad triggs. been a continuation of governance in the u.s. and to governance that has resulted in policy the path of measurable negative impact it will have in the future on ordinary working class people in the u.s. there was it was a much debate for example around the the trump opposes to cut taxes both individual and corporate tax. there wasn't much discussion in the corporate press around the of seeing a proposal by the chairman of the trade should to expand the military budget at one point a bunch of to four billion dollars that ended up being eighty billion dollars which both republicans and democrats on color line in terms of support. there has

not been much discussion around a number of the policies that implement. that kept continue the. talos things of the last four thinking that a big undermining the object of the truth of working people than we see that there's been no change in the. bipartisan committee or understand that the way the u.s. is going to maintain its insurance is jim it is going to use military force. but we've seen from the democrats even those minimal effort on the part of the trunk administrations you. to deescalate tensions with various countries including russia. that of ministers as has been faced with that will push back it's still almost a crazed obsession or an escalating tensions and creating

a political environment in which a direct military confrontation could be the inevitable consequence so you know it's bay continuation of the same kinds of policies are very dangerous. and these policies are both basically. farmers. who've man i mean yeah i mean i think he hits the nail on the head and that's one of the great reasons i wanted to contact him and talk to him you know we want to reach out to him so i think he has such a great perspective on what the real problems are and what is being ignored i don't think. it's it's strange because i think what we're saying here is this conglomeration of greed and zina phobia and nationalism and you have these sides that are normally it's seems as if the platforms in the sides of swat to an extent where looking at someone like a person not where they were before not what borderlines they were born in or out

of and looking at someone like a human being that used to be very democratic values is now very different and yet we're not seeing that and i think that's where there's a communication issue and more and more throw on the term traitor around all the time the last days i mean it's known that everyone from president donald trump for not of monitoring putin over alleged meddling to even was it the other day c.n.n.'s jim acosta who parting from the latest strong outreach he was called a traitor so we asked john what are the dangers of this kind of blind nationalism that is gripping both sides of the political spectrum here in the united states. there's been a very dangerous sort of rupture with the reality of that. i think and what dangers them the post nine eleven situational can bring environment i think the only historic comparison that we could make i think i think legitimately is the mccarthy era where basically there's there was this attempt to impose that

kind of political and ideological conformance you know the old american people. that any opposition to the. sort of a group think. it was resulting in the mobilization of public opinion against the soviet union and against. progress socialism communism was to be seen as embrace seeing the enemy and to be seen as trees. and see the same kind of. irrationality in place today. where basically if you raise questions about the dominant narrative of of. collusion between the trump campaign and the russians you are the question if you suggest that. question to get a met because certainly the role of nato if you question the ability of

maintaining a connection or u.s. policies and syria that you are to be to be questioned. you know there seems to be an environment in which irrationality. is is the. only acceptable. route to go is very because it means that critical voices that are going to need to raise questions to make sure that we don't have a complete. object around its own mobile people becoming intimidated they are struggling to speak out about the collaboration between the intelligence agencies in the private sector. and the result being that they have made it more difficult for people to see. critical information. from

a should be disseminated to the internet social media. and there's been a. well except the book perspectives that has a very visible impact on the nature of immigrant practice in democratic bills here in this country. the first libraries on earth were constructed with and temples as far back as twenty six hundred b.c. from clay tablets to pop high risk or scrolls the collection of information that is accessible to a community as a major force in the evolution of society which is why you shouldn't judge the newly on earth remains of germany as oldest public library by its cover as soon as archaeologists unveiled the walls of the structure near a protestant church in cologne city center they knew it was a roman origin and from the middle of the second century but it wasn't until they noticed these midgets on the wall that they find the secrets hidden for so long it

turns out there's a look as were actually there to hold cover for the storage of scrolls turns out the colon library looks like it it could have held upwards of twenty thousand squirrels and its location suggests it was open to the public it seems that the romans and the germans really took a novel approach to education in communities and creating a great place to go where to get checked out love it all right that is our show for today remember everyone in this world we are not told your loving up side told the wall. i love you i'm tired we're open to them to have to keep on watching the hawks that were great but everybody.

is this is hotter than kentucky. we've all in this movie the voices of people very funny easily molded. a co money city with almost no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the coal was said i'd. love to see these people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's how it's happened.

social media warfare the us senate unveils how it thinks russia is allegedly swearing opinion in america it believes posting funny viral images online is enough to change the course of an election a lot of pride pride related content less news more memes. to nato develops a game to teach players have a spot fake news while critics say it's simply a propaganda tool. personal data from millions of refugees in jordan is being harvested in a high tech operation to perfect recognition technology journalist from the red fish group investigate how ethical the. mental principle that we buy is informed consent was little to do with. what.

sports were joined says it's no longer going to work with the iranian football federation just a month after rival nike did the same. by their very good morning for me kevin owen here at out international aid q moscow just turned nine now this thursday the second of august first that with u.s. midterm elections approaching the issue of cyber security has come to the fore in washington the senate intelligence committee has held a hearing on how to best counter russia and other countries in their alleged attempts to interfere in america's domestic affairs that's just a day after facebook of course took to facebook and instagram accounts which had said was aimed to influence voters caleb maupin has more. russian information warfare in our own backyard after election day the russian government stepped on the gas the russians in this case and others see us as

a cheap date the russian activity seeks to turn the normal differences of opinion among americans into headlines about unbridgeable political divisions the russian government came into the house of the american family and manipulated them as you might suspect the story goes on the same way we've heard it many times before essentially russia is accused of encouraging controversy in the united states around issues like immigration guns racism and all kinds of other things. as cyber attacks remain us remain a core part of moscow's arsenal content is created tested and hosted on platforms such as you tube read it and pinterest this is cross-platform reddit confirm hundreds of ira created accounts the one thing that's lacking in this report just like in so many other similar reports is that any solid actual evidence.

can you estimate the number of americans touched by russian linked activity in this area. you know that is very difficult to do and i'm concerned that even after eighteen months of study we are still only scratching the surface when it comes to russia's information warfare in their effort to influence the american mind apparently the kremlin has one very very powerful weapon. a lot of pride pride related content less news more memes this isn't just a couple of platforms this is music apps this is video games this is me i'm sure and it's much broader than twitter and google in the portrait that the testimony painted on capitol hill you essentially got the impression that americans minds are very easily manipulated that all it takes to influence the way americans think

about world events and politics is to give them a video game on a computer or a meme to look at and all the sudden their minds are changed now repeatedly during the hearings we heard members of congress expressing frustration with the american people saying that they were angry that the american students weren't just listening to what they called the good sources and were instead listening to other other news outlets other other voices expressing different views out from there we also heard a call interesting lee for classes on media literacy to be given in american schools so that americans can know what news outlets they should be listening to and what news outlets they should not be listening to. there is a need to build resilience in target populations this will include long term effort to implement media literacy training and integrate such training into classrooms their e interesting it was quite a day on capitol hill the idea that me and video games and whatever they're

pointing to. can have very significant influence. in our democracy is frankly a joke this makes no sense at all you know you look at the united states that has hollywood so films that have a main using it in every country in the world might facebook whatever of these means were video games ok on comparison to the three different cultural influence of the u.s. or greater data sharing. speaking about media literacy nato has come up with so way of teaching it to youngsters the alliance has released a facebook game called news hero players are supposed to learn how to separate truthful stories from those pesky fake ones. that are tried here. welcome to nato's new online weapon against misinformation it's the news here oh i promised myself to report only the truth join me on my quest to filter the news some of the headlines about the game might imply that it's developers have

a bone to pick with russia but on closer inspection it seems it doesn't have that much russian fake news to decipher you might have thought that needles lot fear based strategic communications center of excellence could dig up something better especially given the lengths that went to asked here trying to prove that russian t.v. comedy was really an undercover propaganda machine and of course there is nato's deep seated suspicion of all things russian we don't accept cyber. law we will not counter russian a propos ground or we more so we have to be able to counter this information with facts but in media as new virtual reality world passions seem slightly more subdued you enter a rather suspiciously empty and slow paced news room where you are the news editor in charge of deciding which reports are real and which are not by clicking on a folder with news stories in it accompanied by repetitive elevator means.

it's not yet clear how successful the game is in fighting fake news since you have to collect enough like to be considered a viral success and so far it's had mixed reviews getting an a for effort from some users but dismissed as a propaganda tool by others all you need to enjoy the game is a facebook account and sign off your facebook info to the alliance in the process as they say in turkey now r.t. london. another social media platform twitter's ago found itself at the center of debate over censorship the latest controversy comes after it suspended austin peterson a republican candidate in the u.s. state of missouri senate race for what it described as abusive behavior his twelve came after he responded to the accusations of colluding with russia peterson posted this image of where it's coming up in a bit of former soviet leader joseph stalin as

a reply to his critics it is well you think about that some users for that pose offensive subsequently was deemed to have indeed violated the platforms rules but there's a catch here that image actually came from two of his own collection that can be found on its database anyway here's what twitter to say in response it claims so we go the image of starlit amounted to targeted harassment which it said is often used to silence voices on the platform but austin peterson says there was more to his suspension he thinks. three different emails were sent to me about this saying that i had not done anything wrong mysteriously two days later the ban was issued it almost seems as though something had gone on behind the scenes and that this would this was an attempt to suppress my speech during a critical election and it is quite ironic because my response was a was a picture of joseph stalin which was meant to be humorous saying off the gulag and then of course they mass reported me as if i have access to

a gulag here in the state of missouri that i could that could be a credible threat. mr p. this is bad and comes as twit to launches a special research group to come but prejudice and promote what it defines as collective health and openness so really cause controversy though with the team accused of strong anti trump bias. you. like donald trump when you can trump donald. something tells me you will suddenly start seeing more republicans in congress are testing the waters and pushing. trump's twenty sixteen digital team in cambridge on this week to help the russians figure out how to tell gates from the plate he's campaigned on facebook.

also paid to sit again claims the platform despite what it says is actually making a concerted effort to senses certain ideas and talking points we don't have free speech in the united states in order to be able to discuss the whether we have free speech the united states of them can discuss very controversial things i don't mind if a social media network has a bias i assume a bias but what i prefer is transparency about that bias twitter suppresses conservative and libertarian voices from being able to get their message out because they have a bias and it's deeply disturbing at a threat to american democracy. a video said to be from inside the plane that crashed in mexico and choose days merged online and apparently shows the moment that aircraft hit the ground. who heard a noise like thunder and then they appear to light on the side where the wings are . if everything was fine and the left felt that it fell and started to hear and

then it stopped and we all started to lose i was going to die. and i was praying was praying to give a number of his source and the number of his troops with jesus saved our lives it's a miracle fortunately we have no news of any deceased people the only one we think is in a serious condition is the pilot. such good news they all got off the plane crash just moments after takeoff they said just fell to the ground all one hundred three on board survived makes comedia reported eighteen were taken to hospital as we just heard the pilot said to us suffered serious spinal injuries authorities are saying the flight recorders have be found in perfect conditions that's a good start to trying to work out what went wrong nischelle reports claim strong winds from the crash sent representatives to. a tech company in a banking behave more for being accused of using millions of refugees in jordan is

guinea pigs in a race to perfect new facial recognition technology the displaced people are obliged to have their irises before they can get food aid the red fish investigative group went to see how the biometric data is harvested. really. using a body part is extremely basic in two thousand and thirteen the un announced its partnership with british jordanian ira spying metrics company i restored they began rolling out and i respect ignition and payment system that meant refugees could withdraw money and shop with the blink of an eye refugees jordan's two biggest camps. have to biometrically register their irises in order to receive a fundamental principle that we go by is informed consent.

for iris guard to deal meant access to millions of refugees huge market to try lots technology and while it gives the technology to the u.s. for free iris garri make a cool one percent from every transaction made via its ip system which could explain why bankers goldman sachs recently invested an undisclosed sum in iris card companies like goldman sachs making on the heels with ira scored who are in charge of both the refugees transaction. founded by one of jordan's wealthiest families including actually with a master. on their advisory board you've got none other than ex national security advisor to george w. bush. former head of m i six richard dear love both of whom are advocates of the war in iraq what i think of what it's like they are guinea pigs. this is just.

the fact that the boys are kind of relation with people from. this team that took part in the war and is more than. become. i had a heated exchange about this with the c.e.o. of iris guard with dealing with a highly secure technologies we would be idiots if we do not ask people who are professionals in their field are there professionals i don't want to warn you you are asking me about a political question from council understand this is a fact we are not involved in any political statements we are not making any statements and you do you think do you. because we are a man political company we are in work in the market and political i understand but they are not political do you understand you do understand that they understand security or basically the creators of the software and hardware iris guard are the only ones who know how it works and we just have to take their word for. it

the collection of iris scans and biometric data isn't new but using refugees that have no real choice but to hand over their information in exchange for receiving aid on this scale is unprecedented and as yet there remain many unanswered questions is the tech safe is it secure who has access to it and who really benefit could it be that's what started as a forced experiment on refugees injured being in camps could soon be coming to an a.t.m. near you. plenty of big questions that the irish guard advisory board i can tell you didn't immediately respond to requests for comment they go but sachs did get but they didn't say very much the said simply they had nothing to do. school posts nine

coming up to nine sixty moscow time thanks for watching r t international live from moscow with me kevin zero in this thursday morning want to come including the possible reasons why a leading german sports brand seems less and less enthusiastic to play ball with a run these days. join me every first week on the alex simon shore and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business i'm sure business i'll see you then. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy for him to let it be an arms race in his own spearing dramatic development that only really i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk.

of the people in my only experience of that bombing we were in number one in this room. all day it's perience us all this. massive growth. and. psyche you would not. plug in for a good morning if you want to run the world sportswear firm seem to be losing their appetite for the iranian market these days with germany's dusts know saying it's no longer going to work with the iranian football federation some reports claim the decisions dictated by u.s. sanctions against tehran donnel call to report. one by one business giants are cutting ties with iran and the latest is german sportswear company id to us the

company said it's no longer going to do business with the iranian national football team and that didn't exactly go down well with tehran. given the improper indyk or a step taken by added s.a.g. with regards the sacred name of deer around on its website it is necessary to take punitive measures against such conduct the violates human rights and signed a contract with an alternative prior to the start of the asian football confederation asian cup we took to the streets of tehran to find out what iranians think about us as decision. a slogan is nothing is impossible what they do is prove that they contradict their own slogan i believe with the little the football federation first of all i believe there is no need for us to introduce politics into sport it is a nasty thing to do there is no sense in a country like the us or any other country trying to enforce this so why the

contrary to the they who should worry that they have lost their way to good market we asked us to comment on the reasons for the decision but they declined to give any details the company's move comes hot on the heels of nike's decision not to sell football boots to the iranian world cup team but the iranians played admirably at the world cup and its supporters took to ridiculing nike's model. unlike with nike his motives for leaving the iranian national team without any gear were quite clear they just couldn't do it and they fell in line with u.s. sanctions without much of a fight. u.s. sanctions mean that as a u.s. company cannot supply shoes to players in the iranian national team at this time

sanctions applicable to nyc have been in place for many years and are enforceable by along with the us threatening further sanctions even more american and european companies appear unwilling to deal with iran that's the spite the fact that since the trump administration sanctions announcement e.u. officials pledge to support and protect european business it's true that will put to work as the european commission we have the juicy to protect european companies so we know me to act the law. we are determined to fight so that the decisions taken by the united states have no repercussions for the french businesses that invest and have invested in iran top e.u. officials even wrote a letter pleading with the u.s. to exclude european companies from the penalties in the state department's response it's our way or the highway we are asking every nation every nation who is sick and tired of islamic republics destructive behavior to join our pressure campaign this

is especially those who are allies in the middle east and europe easy for him to say especially when many are saying the e.u. will bear the economic brunt of cutting off ties with iran but for now it remains to be seen whether impossible is truly nothing for the bloc yellow book for the foundation for peace and future research says it is the u.s. that's pressing european companies to stop dealing with iran. you see the united states is now bullying european companies and governments sending their message is putting pressure on them to start any kind of corporation with iran that's a very nasty thing to do because it is suffocating eighty five million people and their lives after having done this since seventy nine at some point it should be enough i must say it's poorly it's it's narrowminded and it's very sad to see that there are a number of countries would not have any kind of sins or what they do politically in the belief that they can have more politics now i can maybe understand that for

american companies but i have no respect for the idea that european companies and banks should not just do what they do because you. must not never lied to countries outside the united states. so that's because ruling party committed tuesday to amending the constitution to allow the state to seize land from farmers without paying compensation the plans were met with sharp criticism of white farmers who have called it catastrophic is some of the backlash that's appeared online and we are going to live happily ever after south africa doesn't have a land problem it has a political problem this is disgraceful what an appalling situation in south africa where are all those protesters. ainsley explain to you that you won't be owning the land but will be renting it from them and it won't be for free currently over two decades on from the end of apartheid white farmers still on the lion's share of the

country's are cultural and the african national congress the country's ruling party has been buying up some of it for redistribution but opinion among lawmakers is shifted and the majority now support taking land without offering compensation but for that the constitution has to change. is the move that president graham oppose and now wants to push ahead with must be said he says the amendment will help drive economic growth. on prehensile of land reform program will unlock economic growth. by bringing you more in south africa to full use and i'm able to productive participation of millions more south africans in the economy had a south african agricultural union told us that confiscating land that was going to scare off investors south africa do have a huge problem with poverty and unemployment and for us this is a pity that they make these choices because no one will invest in this economy and we need growth to actually address the realities of south africa so we have great

concern about this approach already a lot of foreign countries already contacted us as an organization and say if that will be the case we are not willing to invest in your country anymore i can give you a lot of examples of people really stop investing in south africa and that's the starting point of economic growth until now it's a first and that they make this promises to the public because they need it for the election i think if he's busy challenging them there much of the other try to save himself and that is what's going on now. teenage palestinian activist i have to mimi made headlines in december last year may recall she was arrested and sentenced to eight months in jail after kicking and slapping an israeli soldier the seventeen year old was released this week told r.t. direct that she doesn't regret or actually. it's hard to put my experience into words i can't even explain how oppressed i felt while i was there i hope nobody

ever goes through what i went through but i'm glad i ended up there for my beliefs and i'm ready to go to prison one hundred more times if it serves the good of my country i had to cope with a lot of bad news at the time of the many arrests of my relatives and friends including my brother sometimes it was too much to handle but the death of my cousin hit me the hardest while i was in jail the prison ministration try to shut down the classes we were attending that was a low blow to but we pulled through we managed these unfortunate events united us we started to look at. to each other it like sisters are in love and care for each other helped us be stronger in tough situations ahead was convicted of aggravated assault and obstructing the soldiers she later accepted a deal in court to plead guilty she's become a local hero in the face of palestinian activism is the video of that instant remind you again that went viral. that's. not. fair. god. for its

part here israel's claim those soldiers were trying to prevent palestinians from throwing stones at israeli motorists it treats the heads actions as a criminal offense and a threat to the military's deterrence policy calling provocateurs she says she now hopes to become a lawyer one day lead cases against israel. i knew they could arrest me it's a common practice when your people live under israeli oppression but i did nonetheless since it was the soldier who shot at my brother when he was already wounded in the face and nearly died because of it this was the same soldier who fired teenagers near where i live this was the same soldier who put me behind bars besides this situation was critical when i did what i did as it was the time when trump recognized jerusalem as israel's capital it was a hard time and i think it had an impact on what i did at the end of the day. i will continue studying at university i wanted to quartz is an international law so

that i can become a lawyer and stand up for my country also i hope for all the imprisoned palestinians to walk free soon i would like to say this to all of the prisoners i am with you i want them to know that i love them and miss them and that it will never forget them nine twenty seven moscow time this thursday warning r.t. dot com facebook twitter are up so many more ways to keep in contact with us and see what we've got for you lined up here at international for now is kevin i would have moscow's so so thanks for watching have a great day and stand by for the alex salmond show. backstabbers financial survival guide. housing bubble. oh you mean there's a down side artificial mortgage truth don't get carried away that's cause a report. in

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can't take a little girl to such an old woman you know. oh i love you like i did it you did it it. came. welcome to the alex salmond show today we feature a special interview with the former first minister of scotland henry mcleish. twenty years ago as a labor minister of state he was piloting the school and back to the house of

commons he then became scotland's second first minister after the untimely death of don't know or his time at the top of scottish politics was cut short by an expenses scandal which nice seems relatively minor in light of many more recent issues however over the last fifteen years he has devoted himself to public service in scotland while also pursuing an academic career in the united states meanwhile his political journey from kinda evolutionist to being on the cusp of backing independence has been as much of scotland today alex interviews him on his career on the status front of scotland's parliament on the a.t.p. an issue on scotland and on his thoughts on the direction of american politics under trump but first cheer treats your messages emails and press from hazel he says thanks for today's got in the brown theme here interviewees so passionate as well as knowledgeable looked up the poor open the door is at best an occasional reading to our politicians i messed affinities is what they do not want indeed we

do not thank you so fairness is that it been many great programs and all informative today keeps going the band features amongst the best getting the message of the strength and quality of scotland across well done and thanks for it sure linda says it's the first time you've heard from linda all go on scotland's beautiful landscape and it stands in culture impressive parliament sally says fantastic show again but michael gove writes as if you cannot agree with them all heartedly that scotland produces great argonne credits yes we do and finally came to said great sure that god is called the brown something that was overlooked our lungs and water are free from fracking good point that's why the saltire is a brand of quality now over to alex's college cream just outside the high school and. twenty years ago the house of commons chamber was not dominated by blacks but by scotland and the man stealing that devolution legislation through was henry

mcleish now under the u.k. government's plans for bracks many believe the principles of devolution and compassed not legislation. as never before did that battle between the u.k. and scholarship ministrations is now being played out in front of the supreme court i first asked him to be cliche remember that campaign to establish the modern scottish parliament. along a little party politics in the citadel of central fife you had some interesting political opponents over the years all of them came and all of them went i certainly harbor and one of the most bizarre incidents was when i hosted the young reese mog this is jacob jacob riis mog not he's a loss trees father so he came up to kind of them get some experience politically so he fought me for four weeks of course it went don't very badly but what was interesting was my job during the campaign was to save him from places in fife save him from people that were going to just abuse them so i was he welcomed so at the

end of the contest his father who was a very distinguished william reece morgan editor of the times here in this letter saying dear mr macleish i don't normally write to labor m.p.'s in this way but thanks very much for chaperoning my young son and his first political lobos now i think if i had known then what i know no i would have been so you're responsible for however for blacks can announce on your program that i am responsible for research morgan is present form but can you imagine a situation where you see him today described in the house of commons as the there on woman but from the eighteenth century imagine a young lady smaug with a double breasted suit when i reflect on how it was quite an experience from his well. ninety seven year late in the came. right hand man to deliver the devolution commitment to the referendum campaign in the double question campaign which are essential memories of that well it was a great campaign in many ways i mean you know we knew that the white paper and

which is a very good way to be who was going to be well received by scots it was good to see sean connery and gotten blown sitting in the scene boat as they crossed from one side of edinburgh to one side of but it was also a historic part of it because here was a great nation for the first time and in seventeen zero seven getting some substantial pows some real person being recognised as i suggested at that time so it was good to be. of the legislation goodness it was a remarkable campaign i mean. double sean collier and i spoke with them in the their old high school which was the original site of the scottish parliament was meant to be in the in the one nine hundred seventy s. so we both were a public meeting a political meeting which encore you know and i think the good thing about our it was there was a you know coming together of scotland at that time you know all the differences you know the s.n.p. labor the greens whatever but nevertheless you just felt at that moment and ninety seven in september that this is a there's a unity of purpose around and it was a good feeling i think even the weather may have been good but it did you know set

us on a road no of course which is continuing to unfold so on to the parliament reconvened as we're using said and one hundred ninety nine. it but don't the parliament building we have no was the temple of parliament up in the moment the assembly hall of the of the church of scotland we have now i mean it was good to get them and if you look at the sequence you know ninety seven we got the the white paper through we got the act through in one thousand years of course the opening of parliament with imagine the queen. up in the old church building and in one thousand nine so that was a great two years in the life of scotland going history of scotland but it was also i think when i look back on it when i took the bill through the floor of the house and you know the floor of the house quite well i spent one hundred twenty hours at the despite box and the nearest i came to grief was when one of the conservers through the scotsman newspaper me but apart from that picture i was plain sailing though i didn't do so with them in the parliament that gets going on the young

pesky leader of the opposition the size of the design so it looks all that was me though it's all plain sailing for yourself then tragedy struck of course with donald jules untimely death you have a contest with jack mcconnell to become first minister become first minister of great good will behind you and you set about some of your a key projects like free personal careful the elderly you must on quest straw. no i suspect the civil service in delivering that well you know from your own experience getting something new through is very very difficult there was skepticism on the part of the civil service a lot of my political colleagues were not very supportive because they had bought this idea that nothing nothing should be free at the point of need no jumping back to your career where some of the great points in scottish life has been that feature asian fee's not feature asian fees but free at the point of need you know breaking new breaking down barriers so prepared here for me was something and you know one of the benefits was to see it actually happen in my own home my father who sadly died he had dementia and he got the benefit of some of the provisions that we

had put through in the scottish parliament a free personal care our people think of the parliament upon us the question which is often asked was the scottish parliament done for us that we rate at the top of the of the list of of validations of having your own power well i think when you look at jack's period you know the ban on smoking in public places i think we were the fourth country in the world free personal care free tuition fees and also no trying to stop the excesses of alcohol we're putting a tax on that at the point of sale that could have happened at westminster this can only hartman scotland with a more progressive society saying look we need to do these things but it never could hartmut westminster and one of my features the day my sad sad memories of westminster is it really hasn't moved on much then broiled in a strange experiences issue because it was really a hangover from west memphis that nothing to do with a scottish parliament looking back and taking in proportion. do you think no

looking back given all the see the that sort of thing should have been survivable because i certainly did at the tate and think that what would you tell your mother was survival i think that's very true and i look at what's happened since then and various things but at heart the moment time alec and i had to react to that moment in time and i felt in the best interest everyone that i should decide to resign it certainly wasn't easy and there were some dark moments running up to that and of course after the question of rehabilitation and i've always believed in terms of public service i've always believed since i stepped on the public service is still me and i've hopefully put into scottish politics scottish life a lot of the stuff that i might have done if i had remained in politics so i'm not too regretful of what happened things could always be different but you never make progress if you dwell on the past so that must be really important what do i do that how do i recover from the. new and you go on missions or how did you get you caught with well it was difficult the immediate period was difficult just getting

over the what had happened but then i said to myself you know you've been a public servant all your life. continue to be one so i was forced by those that i call them yourselves i think first for the president's commission of other member correctly where i was very troubled with the the number of people incarcerated in scotland obviously overcrowded prisons and looking for looking for how to achieve a consensus to say that these short sentences actually do not deal a good list of all the prisoners and least of all society and you came so you feel that what came forward from the prison commissioners has been put into effect it has but i think the results have been slightly disappointing for me because i think the idea was that you know the only way we can tackle present problems is to have less people in prison i think you under really the human and we can only look at it relative to what's happened so for the board of my two free years as first minister just to set to kill mccaskill was coming what ever the cabinet meeting to the port that. the prison population had exceeded tol'able limits set location and who were

going to find accommodation etc doesn't happen though and it doesn't happen because although the prison population is drastically reduced we haven't seen the constant increases which were well there previously at a table of course we're caught it claim has fallen dramatically but i think the point is and you'll appreciate this in terms of progressive politics i expect more of scotland you know we have been a very punitive country in so many ways it's changed dramatically but as far as i'm concerned i'd like to do another review just know unsolicited as it were which could say look this is what we didn't do next but we've made progress that my view not enough for a country that aspires to be nordic in relation to what it might want to do in criminal justice that's that that's a goal for us if you can claim some progress and dozens perhaps not quite as much in scottish football which one of your other great commission tass reorganizing the structure of scottish football where you know every function i go to i say that i try and do two things in my life one is to try and get the labor party elected and

secondly save scottish football at the pen looking forward i'm not sure maybe successor will either but i've just put the finishing touches to a new book that will be published the book festival in august and it's basically the future of scottish football requiem of renaissance oh this is a reasonably sized book if it's about the future scottish it is and it's got more dreams in it this time and casting on my own memories back to the golden age between the seventy's eighty's and early ninety's but i think the present commission report is probably more progressive and is achieved more than maybe my book or my previous review had done and for now you people are almost unique position of being at the very top of scottish politics at a time for you be reasonable so you saw devolution as an alternative to independence albeit not nestle a final settlement not cast in the still two period during the independence or for the end of the twenty fourteen well as we both know sleep were high. through shove

you are the lie even as it were because i knew how sympathetic you become to the in the palace case to situation over your recasting new view in the light of brakes that something which bill ten years ago neither you or i would have thought that we feasible that the u.k. would desire the european structures how decide germany for you well not surprisingly i'm still on the point you raise a very important one i mean the sadness about when bracks it is just a collective act of self harm you know it's michael bloomfield said you're an act of real stupidity and we're going to suffer and pay for them but we've got to concentrate on the customs union the single market the trade ideas the economy issues but you know the issue is much bigger than that and my interest now is to see that it's all about politics or democracy or governance in britain we're not being governed well and you know to suggest that the conservative government is doing well is no just a bit of a joke on the other hand i think things will change for the simple reason that

people look beyond bricks and know and think do they want to be in the u.k. where we can have such told model where real political issues are disregarded and we're both to be run or influenced by people like reese morgan boris johnson so i think that's going to change because my view is alec that at the time when the s.n.p. two thousand forty and since i don't think you can get to a yes vote for independence if you stick by traditional nationalism traditional identity nationality issues you've got to reach out to a wider public so put it like you did you did but the no but no i think is more appropriate let's take the concept of the break up of britain. and northern ireland it is a catastrophe about to happen that all the good work was done by major player may go asunder if we have a border you have a situation where democratic demographics might mean that the northern ireland population may thought some time in the future to be united ireland point one

secondly you have a situation in scotland where a lot of scots sources telling me that they're looking into westminster and they can't believe that this can carry on for decades into the future so i think there's a reappraisal in scotland not diminishing what's been achieved but i think to it and then if you even look at london london may be crying out in the future for a new regional federal structure for britain because it's part of this and we're part of a part to mind that just cannot continue but i think over the next few months the next few years you'll see a maturing of the debate about britain's government about politics and about our democracy and when you look at some of those issues you may want to come to a different conclusion in scotland and possibly ireland then you did before join us after the break for more fascinating insights from scotland that could force men if they had to mcleish being interviewed by the four alex up.

this is says harlan kentucky. boys you go through three families. a coal mining city with almost no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the promos assert that there was a lot of these people are survivors of a world disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger

that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here and that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's how it's happened. but going back in the second part of our interview with kenny mcleish we turn to a break that means that the constitutional future of scotland and for hefty you are jumpy and america. looking the turmoil over the last few weeks the continuing tomo perhaps we should say in the in the house of commons that you were in the house of commons and some pretty good times the mastic debates for example a number of debates were split political parties but how do you and your table has covered ever witnessed anything to even compare remotely what we're seeing are no no and i think if people were asked that question in reply honestly then they will

confirm i have never seen in my political life such pick my words carefully such a farce such a continuing fiasco and you know what the source of this is essentially as you well know that thatcher lost her head because of europe john major last comment was he's heard until he's a maze heading the same way that the boys as it ascends on the get chopped off absolutely the poison letter could poison the conservative party has spilled over and now we have the. well of david cameron trying to renegotiate which was bogus and then he lets the country loose on a referendum and he is a trump to a rigged referendum and to me the tragedy is that this was never about the e.u. this is about the united kingdom now this is about the state of the united kingdom not about the state of europe and then what you had was a succession of cheap patriots as i described them. people who are either delusional and government ideological in government and when you combine those qualities together this is

a pretty dangerous situation i was remarking on. to the one constituent of the handmaid's tale which is of a program on a bit dystopian america this is the stop in britain we're moving to places alec which are not good and the consequences of this mess and i always thought the court jesters were wheeled out by kings for entertainment but when you have the court jesters running the place that's a different problem and previously where the government has been falling apart lately major government the opposition gets self into a position with it looks like it's ready to assume power even friends of the carbon wing of the labor party wouldn't say it's a condition of the person or no and this is this is why i think it's a crisis because you could conceivably have a general election. six months a year ahead for the conservatives could when i know my mind suggest that that would be bizarre but that's the nature of british politics there would be no ganti

in the election the labor would when only recently have labor stepped up in the polls and overtake the conservative party and that for me is quite worrying and it stems from the fire it's about like what's happening in europe is happening in america people are sick and tired of those who want to be under us and ambivalent about issues this is a leadership issue i believe passionately that that britain should remain in the european union as agree edifice a great historical purpose to the whole operation we should be celebrating it up but instead the party has decided to look at the brics it would be concerned about setting people when the nations crying out for leadership on the simple point alec that somebody needs to put the country first sounds a bit old fashioned britain first instead of the future of the conservative party and the conservative party foods the morrow i won't be too upset of britain for tomorrow as a country that is respected in the world a country that no started dismantle it so that worries me enormously britain terms

of keeping britain as a as an entity doesn't have many friends left in european circles no i mean i think the way the government's going his we're going to create a lesser united kingdom and one way or to other i mean we're being humiliated abroad and we're diminishing britain to brits in the country so it's a sad situation but if you look at western democracies if you look at the united states and you can see the rise of that worries me in terms of economic hard man you could see islamophobia easier thora here in ism there's a great deal of that in the cunt conservative party at westminster you know by the ideologues who want to take us out but for me an important issue will be. the european view development now we've seen what's happened in spain with the catalans was it happened in scotland and. for a lot of them who are really i suppose fed up that's the word fed up with with the westminster government they may have to take

a different view of life because the european union itself will have to evolve and transform itself over repeated it doesn't look like that will as much for an option no but that's my worry because i constantly argue i constantly write and in books as well as articles that federalism is a what while and reasonable argument against the cunt mess at westminster and an independent but despite the fact that i've tried hard and hard out no one's listening there is still this problem at westminster that they believe that the kind of union it was struck the union of the united kingdom it still remains and people find it very hard in this is a situation where northern ireland could have a different geography political geography wales can scotland house and my fear is because that's never really changed that much people are sleepwalking at westminster closer to a potential break up of britain. and unless they stop themselves and do something about it then that will continue no that is

a crisis that's looming ahead because you spent a good deal of your academic to the recent years in the united states lecturing mainly and some books also of the united states so you must be watching there the advent of trump as a move for with great interest. a consolation a source but well certainly alec i mean i i love america it's a wonderful wonderful country i spent two to three months teaching but this time when i came back and in april i really had a detox i mean i had so much of this person and one of the sad features is that people are still surprised that he's doing these things and if we stop being surprised the book president trump then we could maybe start to concentrate on some of the things that he's actually doing which may be a bit more objective like what's happening in terms of nato what's happening in terms of his meeting with president putin and what he's been saying about winding

up the you in terms of smashing the administrative state his views on people immigrants his views on mexicans there's a whole panoply of issues where people think that he is a politician he's a republican of course he's not republican he was a democrat of course is not a democrat this is a person who i think is dangerous and what is dangerous about it there he's keeping company in studying up people like netanyahu. we're talking about the one in turkey we're talking about duarte in the philippines what on the communist press of china and of russia and this of the economic hartman we're talking about so let's concentrate on what president trump is actually doing and the lesser prized when he does something really crazy really silly and the quicker we get off that we start to realize that this is a person who is a a magician in terms of communications he feeds his base daily and it's remaining

substantially loyal and i would also say to people who think he may only be there for another two years think again because american politics has a problem that the democrats are not scoring many winning runs to use or a metaphor over there and there's a lack of leadership so that countries got major major problems and i see a lot of what's happening with trump in a curious way inside part of the conservative party and relation to this hard economic nationalism the ideology of free trade knocking the european union these are all qualities that trump was it's sad to think that people in the conservative party might have similar views and is every single thing that a person from but does a search for all know and this is the this is the curious thing about part of the magic because there's often an inkling an inkling of progressive thinking or sensible idea for example in terms of nato it makes sense to me that the members of

nato should contribute more to the common defense of the free world and our trump made a point rather than elegantly but nevertheless that was a point that hit home one thing one of the things trump has done he speaks plainly and that i think goes down well with a lot of people working people who just don't want the frills they want substance the people have been forgotten in america are the left behind here similar what with bret similar vote with trump but let's just ease off ridicule. mind he's really killed himself enough the more important thing is what is his policies doing to america and how does the impact on the wider world and that includes europe includes britain and mcleish the theme of lifting the scope of the looking forward to toasting either the world cup when independence and for world cups time. simon crean shouldn't have proponents in the sure but here i don't need to tell you the drill of people you know who want to do question a quick and your many friends and i can finish or by promising that scotland won't

qualify for the world cup but i'll keep you guessing on what the other part of the questions answered thank you henry thank you henry mcleish is by no means alone and having his mind and future political options concentrated by impending. and scotland's future is only one of the proving conflicts that is no crystallizing that is border question remains unresolved and the good friday peace there looks more aggressive than at any time over the last two decades police amaze grip on a tenuous commons majority shaking of the checkers agreement only good logic only supported by tiny majorities as the least worst option the question is can she hold the support of the democratic unionists and the european reform good possible to misstate tacky and off towards the soft to satisfy our pro european rebels meanwhile the prime minister's chances of getting a check of compromise passed the european commission twenty seven other member states and the european parliament look even less promising than the maintenance of

a tiny parliamentary majority more than two years after the bracks the referendum we have reached the place where the government briefing on stockpiling food and medicine is actually designed to reassure the population. public opinion for the first time says that i thought i and them seems to be shifting against a decisively against the prime minister's handling of it if a soft on deliverable and the unthinkable then the prospect of another referendum perhaps on the election becomes a very real likelihood but the m.p.'s broke up for recess last week the atmosphere was feeble as the temperatures soared the holidays to meet cool temples but the underlying issues will be back with a vengeance come the autumn last year the prime minister went on a walking holiday and planned a surprise election this summer to walk into an agenda and might end up with an unplanned election on for breakfast he has at least an unwanted new referendum

nothing is knows except that the british ship of state is launching towards a treacherous and indefinite shore so from disney that myself and all of the crew will goodbye from. coming up in next week's show i head to bustling boss alone up with us continuing deadlock in the political crisis between catalonia and spain i speak exclusively to the new president of catalonia couldn't taught us to well that can be a breakthrough with new spanish prime minister federal subjects. but

politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected . so when you want to be president i'm sure about something i want to be part of sometimes. it's a going to be press this is what the forty three in the morning the people. i'm interested always in the audience of. course it. russia is one of the countries that most buy capacity and although very high population does that mean russia does need to be concerned about sustainability i would say yes absolutely you are a situation where you have a lot of farm per person so to say you know you have a lot of ecological wealth and the word is very scarce so that's a huge economic advantage as well and saying wow this is an amazing farm let's look after it well because that said that will enable us to live well the long run.

social media warfare the u.s. senate some details how it thinks russia is allegedly swaying opinion in america it believes posting funny viral images on lawns and off to change the course of the election a lot of pride pride related content less news more memes. going to need to develop a game to teach players how to spot the pesky fake news while critics say it's simply a propaganda tool. for millions of refugees in jordan is being harvested in a high tech operation to perfect recognition technology journalist from the red fish group investigate how ethical. fundamental principle. is informed consent. for the. letter. says it

will no longer work with the iranian football federation just a month off to rival knight keep it to say. good morning you want to know its international live with me kevin owen your most coaches ten ten am now this thursday the second of august first the. with the u.s. midterm elections approaching the issue of cyber security has come to the fore in washington again the senate intelligence committee now has held a hearing on how best to counter russia and other countries in the religion attempts to interfere in america's domestic affairs but it's just a day after facebook took down facebook and instagram accounts which it said aims to influence voters caleb maupin explains. russian information warfare in our own backyard after election day the russian government stepped on

the gas the russians in this case and others see us as a cheap date the russian activity seeks to turn the normal differences of opinion among americans into headlines about unbridgeable political divisions the russian government came into the house of the american family. and manipulated them as you might suspect the story goes on the same way we've heard it many times before essentially russia is accused of encouraging controversy in the united states around issues like immigration guns racism and all kinds of other things. i cyber attacks remain us made a core part of moscow's arsenal content is created tested and hosted on platforms such as you tube read it and pinterest its push to twitter and facebook with their standing audiences in the hundreds of millions and it's targeted at the most receptive this is a problem of the entire information ecosystem this is cross-platform reddit confirm

hundreds of ira created accounts tumblr did it now one thing that's lacking in this report just like in so many other similar reports is any solid actual evidence. can you estimate the number of americans touched by russian linked activity in this area. you know that is very difficult to do and i'm concerned that even after eighteen months of study we are still only scratching the surface when it comes to russia's information warfare in their effort to influence the american mind apparently the kremlin has one very very powerful weapon. a lot of pride pride related content less news more memes it isn't just a couple of platforms this is music apps this is video games this is me i'm sure

and it's much broader than twitter and google in the portrait that the testimony painted on capitol hill you essentially got the impression that americans minds are very easily manipulated that all it takes to influence the way americans think about world events and politics is to give them a video game on a computer or a meme to look at and all the sudden their minds are changed now repeatedly during the hearings we heard members of congress expressing frustration with the american people saying that they were angry that the americans weren't just listening to what they called the good sources and were instead listening to other other news outlets other other voices expressing different views out from there we also heard a call interesting lee for classes on media literacy to be given in american schools so that americans can know what news outlets they should be listening to and what news outlets they should not be listening to. there is a need to build resilience in target populations this will include long term effort

to implement media literacy training and integrate such training into classrooms very interesting it was quite a day on capitol hill the idea that maybe video games and whatever they're wanting to. can have any significant influence. in our democracy is frankly a joke this makes no sense at all you know you look at the united states there's hollywood so films that have amazing influence in every country in the world whatever of these means were video games hey on comparison to that. of cultural influence of the u.s.a.'s greater data sharing. speak about media literacy nato has come up with its own way of teaching it to youngsters the alliance's released a facebook game called the news hero play as opposed to learn how to separate those truthful stories from those pesky fake ones and this is

a church going to try to happen. welcome to nato's new online weapon against misinformation it's the news hero i promised myself to report only the truth join me on my quest to filter the news some of the headlines about the game might imply that it's developers have a bone to pick with russia but on closer inspection it seems it doesn't have that much russian fake news to decipher you might have thought that needle's lot fear based strategic communications center of excellence could dig up something better especially given the lengths that went to asked year trying to prove that russian t.v. comedy was really an undercover propaganda machine and of course there is nato's deep seated suspicion of all things russian we don't accept cyber. law we will not counter. we more. we have to be able to counter this information with facts but to me those new virtual reality

world passions seem slightly more subdued you enter a rather suspiciously empty and slow paced news room where you are the news editor in charge of deciding which reports are real and which are not by clicking on a folder with news stories in it the company by repetitive elevator music. it's not yet clear how successful the game is and fighting fake news since you have to collect enough likes to be considered a viral success and so far it's had mixed reviews getting an a for effort from some users but dismissed as a propaganda tool by others or you need to enjoy the game is a facebook account and sign off your facebook info to the alliance in the process as they say turkey now r.t. london. and other social media powerful twitter is again found itself in the center of debate over censorship the latest controversy comes after suspended all student peterson there is a republican candidate in the u.s.

state of missouri senate race for what it is. does abusive behavior is twelve though a band came after he responded to the accusations of colluding with russia now peterson posted this image of former soviet leader joseph stalin as reply to his critics some users hugely offended by that it was subsequently deemed to have violated the platform's rules indeed there's a catch here that image actually came from twitter his own collection it could be found on his own database well here's what twitter had to say in response it claims that the image of self says the image of starlit amounted to target harassment which it said is often used to silence voices on the platform but austin peterson thinks is much more to suspension than that three different emails were sent to me about this saying that i had not done anything wrong mysteriously two days later the band was issued it almost seems as though something had gone on behind the scenes and that this would this was an attempt to suppress my speech during

a critical election and it is quite ironic because my response was a was a picture of joseph stalin which was meant to be humorous saying off to gulag and then of course they mass reported me as if i have access to a gulag here in the state of missouri that i could that could be a credible threat. mr peterson's ban comes as twitter launches a special research group to combat prejudice and promote what it defines as collective health an openness there's already causing controversy too that with the team accused of strong anti trump bias. you. know you. like donald trump when you can trump donald. something tells me you will certainly start seeing more republicans in congress are testing the waters and pushing magazines trump. trump's twenty sixteen digital team in cambridge on this week to help the russians

figure out who told gates he's campaigned on facebook. austin peterson again claims the platform despite what it says is actually making a concerted effort to sense a certain ideas and talking points we don't have free speech in the united states in order to be able to discuss the whether we have free speech or you know say it so that we can discuss very controversial things i don't mind if a social media network has a bias i assume a bias but what i prefer is transparency about that bias twitter suppresses conservative and libertarian voices from being able to get their message out because they have a bias and it's deeply disturbing at a threat to american democracy. next a tech company a banking behemoths for both being accused of using millions of refugees in jordan as guinea pigs in a race to perfect new face recognition technology the displaced people are obliged to have the irises scanned before they can get food and aid the red fish

investigative group went to see how the biometric data is being harvested. really. using a password and using a body part is extremely invasive in two thousand and thirteen the un announced its partnership with british jordanian iris spying metrics company iris card they began rolling out and i respect ignition and payment system that meant refugees could withdraw money and shop with the blink of an eye refugees jordan's two biggest camps. have to biometrically register their irises in order to receive eight fundamental principle that we go by is informed consent. for iris guard to deal meant access to millions of refugees huge market to try lots

technology and while it gives the technology to the u.s. for free iris card make a cool one percent from every transaction made via its ip system which could explain why bankers goldman sachs recently invested an undisclosed sum in iris card companies like goldman sachs making on the deals with ira scored who are in charge of both the refugees transaction iris gardens call founded by one of jordan's wealthiest families including actually with a master. on their advisory board you've got none other than ex national security advisor to george w. bush. former head of m i six richard dear love both of whom are advocates of the war in iraq when i think of what it's like they are getting picks. this is just. the fact that the boys are going to ration with people from. this team that took part in planning the war and is more than.

i had a heated exchange about this with the c.e.o. of iris guard with dealing with a highly secure technologies we would be idiots if we do not ask people who are professionals in their field are there professionals i don't want to warn you you are asking me about a political question from town some understand this is a fact we are not involved in any political statements we are not making any statements to you do you think that i agree to do you. because we are a man political company we have it work in the larger political i understand but they are not nonpolitical do you understand you do understand that they understand security or you don't deny that basically the creators of the software and hardware iris card are the only ones who know how it works and we just have to take their word for. it the collection of iris scans and biometric data isn't new

but using refugees that have no real choice but to hand over their information in exchange for receiving aid on this scale is unprecedented and as yet there remain many unanswered questions is the tech safe is it secure who has access to it and who really benefit could it be that's what started as a forced experiment on refugees injured being in camps could soon be coming to an or a.t.m. near you. a lot of important questions there with potentially huge ramifications all the irish guard advisory board didn't immediately respond to our requests for comment i can tell you that goldman sachs did reply but didn't say much quote they had nothing to add and quote. the video said to be from inside that crashed plane in mexico on choose days emerged online it apparently shows the moment the aircraft

hit the ground. actually you said who heard a noise like thunder and then they appeared to lie to her side where the wings are just mean that everything was fine and then i felt that it fell and started to hit the ups then it stopped and who all started to lose it i was going to die. and i was praying i was praying to get the number of his shoes and the number has just said jesus saved our lives. it's a miracle fortunately we have no news of any deceased people the only one we think is in a serious condition is the pilot as well as we know today the pilot suffered serious spinal injuries all one hundred three people on the plane survived mexican media

reporting eighteen taken to hospital because you know that you saw those pictures the plane looked like it qana got off the ground initial report said the playing crashed moments after takeoff but now we're hearing mexico's transport ministry saying no it never completely got off the ground said but it confusion over that investigators say the flight recorders have been recovered in perfect condition but they are yet to be examined. you're watching out international from this thursday morning with me kevin i want to come and stay with me for at least the next ten minutes or so when we look into the possible reasons why leading german sports brand seems less and less enthusiastic these days to play ball with iran.

i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter to us is over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten dollars crimes happen each day. eighty five percent of the global wealth he longs to be all for bridge eight point six percent market saw thirty percent just last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need to remember is one one doesn't show you can't afford to miss the one and only.

i gave her a good morning just tune to a sportswear firm seem to be losing their appetite for the a rainy in market these days with germany's added desnos saying it's no longer going to work with the iranian football federation some reports claim the decisions dictated by u.s. sanctions against iran donald quarter reports. one by one business giants are cutting ties with iran and the latest is german sportswear company adi das the company said it's no longer going to do business with the iranian national football team and that didn't exactly go down well with tehran. given the improper and in decor a step taken by added s.a.g. with regards the sacred name of deer around on its website it is necessary to take punitive measures against such conduct the violates human rights and signed a contract with an alternative prior to the start of the asian football confederation asian cup we took to the streets of tehran to find out what iranians think about us as decision. a slogan is nothing is impossible what they did is

prove that they contradict their own slogan i believe what they did belittle the football federation first of all i believe there is no need for us to introduce politics into sport it is a nasty thing to do there is no sense in a country like the us or any other country trying to enforce this so why the contrary it is the they who should worry that they have lost their way to a good market we asked us to comment on the reasons for the decision but they declined to give any details the company's move comes hot on the heels of nike's decision not to sell football boots to the iranian world cup team but the iranians played admirably at the world cup and its supporters took to ridiculing nike's model.

unlike with nike his motives for leaving the iranian national team without a need here were quite clear they just couldn't do it and they fell in line with u.s. sanctions without much of a fight. u.s. sanctions mean that as a u.s. company cannot supply shoes to players in the iranian national team at this time sanctions applicable to nake have been in place for many years and are in forcible by along with the u.s. threatening further sanctions even more american and european companies appear unwilling to deal with iran that's the spite the fact that since the trump administration sanctions announcement e.u. officials pledge to support and protect european businesses. put to work as the european commission we have the duty to protect most never lied to countries outside the united states. in southwest syria large military operations in full

swing as government forces try to drive militants and rebels from two provinces we asked russia's envoy to syria what still has to be done before full victory could be declared with us they also. there are only two areas where i saw militants is still quite active although there are not many of them first of all in a fifty five kilometer long area that's controlled by the u.s. . is located there around sixty thousand people live there now there are many i saw militants who are there under the guise of refugees my personal opinion is that the americans have got themselves into a deadlock a trap is a very as they've always told us fighting against i so it turns out i saw militants also settled in this area there one thousand seven hundred of them and they can occupy the u.s. military base within hours maybe days another place where i saw militants are quite active although there are not many of them and maybe want to two thousand people is located on the syria iraq border on the eastern bank of the euphrates river which

is controlled by the kurds. to tribes in namibia in the south west africa attempting to sue germany there seeking compensation and official apologies for the alleged genocide by german colonialists over one hundred years ago as a nisha sethi reports next. germany still shows signs of a stark imperial cost this is looted it's just a name to off to a dull knew that it has the very first colony german southwest africa also known as the maybe a in the early one nine hundred stim insets less violent bases land from local citizens leading to one of the centuries west genocides. the hero's nation must now leave the country if it for

a few years is i shall come palette to do so with a long tube and a hair of found inside the german frontier with or without a gun or can oh will be executed i shall spared neither women nor children. today's hereright unama communities still mourn the deaths of the eighty thousand people were slaughtered that data length of the german government to pay for the crimes committed you know what people. and then you simply came to be sixty eight on that you. and you just in then you beat him. but because we dip into different skin color speak.

the german government you see for us. it's only. even the apology came a century later with the german economic cooperation and development minister close to tears when she spoke about it in two thousand and four. we germans acknowledge our historical political moral and ethical responsibility and the guilt the germans brought upon themselves but the government stepped in saying the minister was speaking as a private citizen and not representing jamie's position it took over a decade more for balance officially acknowledged the crimes of the past the war of extermination in the media from one hundred forty nine where it was a war crime and genocide the movie has received hundreds of thousands of euro's from germany perhaps a sort of in direct way of compensation but that's not enough for the tribes last

year to merit and now my representatives father in law suits in new york saying they wanted to be part of the official talks between germany and the maybe a saying it was the only way to ensure justice what happened in south africa was a genocide not while ation a violation of the war and germany is not. really. completely held accountable it is unique in the sense that you can find it in extermination order they just issued by germany. to extend its them as they were not the historians to say just look at the mix they will make a difference of this case history will believe even laws if they win it might encourage other indigenous groups to take action against format european colonial overlords which could see the likes of britain france and the netherlands pay a high price for the past chains and issues that the r.t.

beilin. news rubs so far the dog called twitter facebook are up so many ways to keep in touch with what we've got lined up for your international criminal insane things watching the. russia is one of the countries that most buy capacity and all the very high population does that mean russia does need to be concerned about sustainability i would say yes absolutely you are no lucky situation where you have a lot of farm per person so to say you know you have a lot of wealth ecological wealth and but the word is very scarce so that's a huge economic advantage as well and saying wow this is an amazing farm let's look

after it well because that's our ad said that building a major loss to live well the long run. of the people in you know who it's very it's about the moment. we were in that number close in this room. all day perience us all of this him to look still must see all of the growth yes. and the psyche looked not at such that. this is boom bust broadcasting around the world from washington d.c.

i'm barred children and welcome aboard coming up today gary luck the c.e.o. of view from the wing is here to talk about the prospect of turbulence in the airline industry over fuel prices and airplane manufacturers plus facial recognition technology seems to have a racial bias and even get this members of the u.s. house and senate are not immune archies actually banks has the details on the continuing controversy and. who's going to profit from artificial intelligence and how are hackers being stopped from killing the golden goose shipley the c.e.o. of vera software gives us his expert insight and finally from paris france artie's charlotte devinsky looks at allegations that there's something rotten about competition and prices with french supermarkets we've got our motors running and before we head out the policy highlight let's get some headlines. the eurozone has seen the weakest growth rate in two years according to euro's that gross domestic

product for the second quarter of the year expanded by only point three percent that's even down a tenth of a percent from the lackluster first quarter and four tenths of a percent from q four of twenty seventeen that was at four point seven percent higher oil prices a.