also referred to on this program as fella my first question is here does the do the corporate mainstream you remember that program did that do they do the corporate mainstream media. do they contribute to the cultural wars as it is we say is divided and is everything is contentious as it really is or they dismiss it for their own political purposes go ahead lionel yes no yes no and sometimes that corporate first of all correction my dear friend it is not the mainstream media used to be that mainstream media used to be mainstream they're not this is the mainstream media social media different platforms that's mainstream they are an existential fight for their life so within the particular parameters of their working environment yes they mix it up and people are scraping does the rest of the country mainstream heartland mainstream america care no there you go so

ok but ok but rob i mean i get we all can't lionel's point but they still think of themselves as the mainstream and representing. the population what they really do is represent power particularly on the left i would say but i want to stay with this magnification here because if you look if you watch c n n n m s n b c and then you watch fox on the same evening you'd think you'd be in parallel universes i mean you really would have a sense that both are in some kind of never neverland and having nothing to do with the world outside go ahead rob i was one of the token liberals on fox and at one point i think i made over two hundred. ten appearances on there over the course of a couple of years. there they were pursuing back then i think more of a fair and balanced attitude but now well i was on. it's like the washington

generals the team that is never beaten the harlem globetrotters you know it's going in the know that in five other people were going to beat up on me but i was allowed to voice my opinion i don't really get that sense anymore i sense that the people that they pick to to give a liberal perspective are speaking about outrageous claims and comments and policies and they're taking an extreme so they can say hey look at this kooky liberal he is just like bernie sanders but but we also have a divisive president who has read that acrimony throughout the country and we have politicians on both sides that are taking more extreme points of view and you're going to have news shows and stations that are going to be representative of those those policies and beliefs and then those that those bases are going to go and watch those particular stations and channels ok lionel doesn't agree but i'm going to go to patrick first here i mean rob brings up

a really good point i mean donald trump by any any measure is a very contentious president i mean i i watch all of his town his stadium appearances i mean he goes out there ok and his base likes it ok but he does give the mainstream the liberal mainstream media or this c.n.n. and some b. c. the people like that he gives them a lot of cannon fodder to want to work with patrick you know i think earlier your point it's essential crisis that the mainstream media is going through it's not just an end existential crisis it's a financial crisis so what you have now is they've been forced to basically run click bait and if you talk about broadcast television it's one crisis after another or one sort of trump derangement crisis after another with the print with the washington post i get the delia alerts every day and michael cohen said this michael cohen said that steve bannon's gardener heard him you know whatever singing russian in the shower. so this is the daily sort of water because they can't they

have to attract the audiences they have to get the clicks of the very thing they accuse of the independent media with the very thing they decry on social media they themselves are the worst offenders now so they need a crisis this is the sort of recurring theme with the mainstream media ok it's actually always been like that for many years you know crisis of it's not political to be the way i have been going to go to lionel but i get what you're saying but what about a real crisis because. sensibility stormy daniels isn't a crisis for me i could care less ok a creepy porn lawyer i could care less it's in one ear out the other and i don't those are minutes of my life that he will never get back that's why i don't watch those stations here lionel you were disagreeing at some point go ahead jump in to my dear friend the intellectually sapient mr cobb i disagree in one respect what roger ailes di fox news as we knew it guy absolutely die next with a d.c.

fox merger does the right thing to me fox merger even though they swear that the news division is different you are seeing a watered down and the dying saccharin version of what was once fox at its and you can argue about this best and the like with all due respect also my dear friend peter what you like has nothing to do with what these people are interested in this is a twenty four seven runaway train that you want to be run away you have to keep feeding the boiler then you are pouring everything into it you have a newsroom with twenty something i'm sorry to say per d.m. folks who i have no journalistic ability know no experience of any kind of t.v. or whatever they're just there to click and just feed ok i'll sit but now you know there's no room for correction you know but if i could narrow but the point is here is this dividing the country. i mean i understand how it's made and why it's made

and i understand the bottom line here but it is dividing the country i mean jim acosta i mean what a disgrace to journalism ok i mean and they probably think he's doing a great job rob if you were nodding your head go ahead he's not he's not defied ok ok go ahead go ahead rob jim acosta is not dividing that ok i'm sorry i'm sorry it's all right let's go ahead rob lionel consider this ok i'm going to start at the top with our esteemed president donald j. trump when you have a white house press pool they usually normally interact with the white house communications director who for quite a while was hopes his hope picks the way it used to run and i was not a huge fan of president obama only voted for him once jen psaki who was a communications director disseminate that information to her columns team the columns team then interacted with various people in the press pool and disseminate information to them so they could write about it i don't think that's ever been

done under trump so you have pressed people that sit around twiddling their thumbs sitting and fuming going what am i going to do what am i going to write about i think i will say that trump is a jerk and that he's disorganized and he doesn't do anything really because that's what's going on that doesn't need it comes to me has twitter. added you're going to go to patrick because you know we've got to. i think hang on hang on line him you know we've gone back and forth on this program with all of us all of us here about twitter and and it's got those pluses and minuses here but again the traditional mainstream media line oh ok this is where it creates an opening for them is well ok so you know these different strategies they have their pluses and minuses patrick go ahead and claim it. yeah i think you're kind of talking about two different things here but let's talk about social media for a minute because these are some of the you know same corporations. now overlapping

with broadcast media and with mainstream print and they're also working hand in hand with the first draft coalition all these sort of concepts to police fake news and so forth they're they're ideological you know in the united states and you know their ideological dependence is really on the state you know and i think this is the mainstream media's problem as well they need access to the state they need access to power they also need access to corporate money and hence they become a tool of government when they become a tool of corporate propaganda the same goes for the silicon valley facebook might be a democratic progressive in the united states but believe me they're absolutely colorblind internationally because they need access to all these markets so so i guess we're talking about media i think we can open up the conversation now a little bit more but but in terms of the united states unfortunately even if as your previous guest said they're going to be briefed by the white house team i

think they would throw that briefing in the waste bin if they received it before from the you know the press pool received under this administration because they're hell for leather really just bent on you know having this president impeached yeah well that's a lie let me go to lionel before we go to the break here i mean you know i see ideological possession i mean it's a daemonic ok on am based on c.n.n. an end and i say b.c. i mean it's it's the point of being irrational it's not even fun to watch anymore ice to poke fun at you know brian stelter i mean the stupidest guy on t.v. but at the even now that's not funny forty seconds lionel before we go to the break . first of all togged i love you the day i give you a kidney not mine but somebody else's if you needed it and i got it he wanted there are two things my friend ever when you're living in the past and you're living in the past you're talking about white house new polls when they say this is where paul wake up and over till you hate trial. can you get past it

ok well growing old girl you're going to hear you're going to say you an example of of ideological possession you know. created peter a lot of those called me kids one sort of two years older than me. twenty seconds lionel keep going. but it's true here to me there's no twitter is look they told f.d.r. with the fireside chat you can't talk on the radio the presidential need i say more we've got to wake up and smell the coffee kids it's a new day ok i'm going to jump in here guys we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on trumped arrangements and drum state with our to.

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welcome back across the uk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing trump derangement syndrome. ok i want to go back to rob in new york and i want to ask you all the same question a hypothetical rob hypothetical situation or putin in the kremlin. media ops they get together and they start attacking donald trump how long will it take this for c.n.n. and them to join in all of sudden wow glad it was on our side now ok i'm asking this seriously ok go ahead what kind of attack is this going to be your foot soldiers marching marching up our shores or is that all right no no no no no no no no i'm media taxing he's not a reliable partner we can't work with him we can't work with him ok ok that's what

i'm getting at ok and i and i'm sure the left would be all over it in a heartbeat keep going rob. no i don't think that's going to happen oh think they're going to say see how how fickle they are now they've turned against donald trump and this is a key component hypothetical hypothetical well i don't. brian stelter is not even going to put up for that as long as there is a story there or we're going to milk it ok pat i just i think you guys are grasping at straws here no no no i'm trying to make a point here and i it's a valid point i think is well all right i'll come on line i'll have a little bit of fun you know you're acting like you know what was his name bob you're acting like you're actually in fact senator dole right now get off the grass ok time passed i could see that he had changed let me go it is hard patrick patrick again what i'm just saying is that anything i know no matter how bizarre and how

you know out of the park it is they will pick up on this ok because they have picked up on every single else real false imagined and run with it like fools they would do it again patrick. russia versus trump does that hypothetical peter liberals love during hypotheticals by the way. i'm just going to say yes peter one hundred percent really one hundred percent they would open up a shrine to vladimir putin outside cnn's offices in atlanta they would start rachel maddow would go to saudi and start doing fluff videos about what a great holiday destination it is that's what would happen because media. is colorblind the sense don't go to where the political with the political power is so you know i don't think i don't think i think they would pivot it would definitely because it was i don't want to get rid of trump and i think it's right of trying right enemy of my enemy that friend that is exactly right that's what i'm getting

at here all right lionel pretty please come out of your hole now and you can start to answer the question my friend. he's been so can reveal to you i know i know and you think he's in a good you know he's in a good mood today ok keep going on where you take the happy pro level you're a genius first of all you confound poor talib with their hypothetical you mean it's not him what's a hypothetical right listen while you're doing is terrific what you're saying i don't have any of that have your answer on this one. well that's that's really pretty this is ever heard his cross-eyed is crossed often saurus edition go ahead line right here that's where the pa was a lot of a ground war there were sorts of sorrows but i digress come on please you're what you're by your erosion of my time and let's assume this so that i'm reporting tomorrow comes out let's say worse than that leavelle let's say he places facebook ads now imagine something that shows eight to say something negative against scott

now most people would say the left is the prototypical fascist corporate left would say wait a minute how can we agree with them now when we did the like of a week ago the enemy of my enemy is my friend are we going to be that craven that that that venal i go along with him or you are you know he's lying only it makes her do what time i hear again me it makes perfect sense because liberals used to believe in civil liberties two years ago they don't anymore oh man are for it ok i mean for tax evasion the average person convicted of tax evasion go to jail for a year now paul minor party faces three hundred years ok what happened to the liberals ok but you still believe in the civil liberties they gave him and i. oh i got an ostrich coat i think you're so i how it may i can tell you how you will hide it out of the guy the explanation line and it's very easy there ideologically

possessed they've lost their marbles rob give me a hypothetical peter value of rachel maddow what went to so she she would die mysteriously in some kind of viking accident that's what would happen if they don't disappear her oh yeah i just don't see it as a viable thing. you know but also how to really wouldn't be unhappy about it. rachel maddow i would sort of say i love it and i did a lot of that is the talk of it is our patrick but you with your analogy back it up ok i get a trick she could do a cameo in a pussy riot video and some costs are showing up and down and you know it but over no pornography no pornography sorry and i don't know what's going on that one is peter the point is you're right ten or twenty years ago they would have rallied around the president in that scenario but we we are not in that time anymore now there is a kind of a political ideological obsession a fetish if you will and

a total derangement to get this rid of this president so what might have been true twenty years ago is not have wouldn't happen now in that sense yeah the media is completely out of it's out of its tree in that sense but i think the point is as well that you're not going to get any political objectivity from this mainstream media and in a sense they're going to hand donald trump reelection in two thousand and twenty if they continue down this road i think it's wishful thinking that they'll be able to personally that they'll be able to impeach the president if they win the midterms but the media is just going absolutely nuts in the run up to the midterms with with all they're going to ramp it up and it's just going to go a nice high and unfortunately it's kept this russia gate nonsense going here go ahead lionel peter let me i assume argue i know that i was going to ask you a hypothetical question or a rhetorical question watched face now but do you think these democratic folks

recognize that if for some reason under the rules if trump is removed mike pence is the president do you think that and they're saying that they're verily ok but you would never even fly a lot of their absolutely are successful you're absolutely right but this again kind of confirms i guess what most of us are saying here and most viewers that are watching this program they don't think these. things through very well do they ok i mean that's why it's called trump to reign over that senator bob was because well no i mean i do think mike my pants wouldn't bother me and i said it ok please do well first of all i'm going i'm going to kind of side with the with patrick and lionel here. the liberals have over promised and under delivered and been promising and preachment they've been promising the end of trump every day and people are

tiring of it. and it's beginning to make them look a little ludicrous where where is this impeachment where is this end of trump you've been telling me about for months and i see it more than anywhere remarkably on facebook with different journalists i know who shall go on named their one of the movies rights q the jaws theme all over killing the jaws of them so much that the cello guy's fingers are probably broken by now and it's just not whether it deserves to happen are not it's not happening soon it hasn't happened and they've shot themselves in the foot in that regard you know so i don't know is this in agreement with lionel and i think i well yeah i think we're in broad agreement here with patrick the thing is though in the time from the campaign to inauguration to the president going to agree with rob here i mean they've always looked for the end of something the end of trump the end of this administration you know impeachment but because they are so focused on that they haven't thought about anything else to

run on and so they're going to run on hating trump and if you look at the public opinion polls i mean what is it eighty eight percent eighty to eighty eight percent of republicans are staying with the president you know after you know ninety eight percent of the airwaves a barrage against one man i've never seen it in my life i mean it's all about one man all of the time it's really exhausting because i like you i'm a policy guy the rest of it is kind of like tinder to entertainment ok go ahead patrick you know the problem is while they're going crazy trying to come up with the latest sort of gotcha for donald trump and there's like one there's multiples story lines every day that are being invented along those lines while they're doing all that the world's turning the world is moving on the united states has business to do is a country. and i'll extend this i think the mainstream media are going beyond partisanship and sort of the democrat party and sort of the never trumpet for that matter they're undermining of the actual business of the united states i can't

imagine more of an unpatriotic thing they might think that they're saving the world from a russian invasion or something like this but the fact of matter is they're undermining the u.s. credibility internationally they're keeping the u.s. from from doing its business internationally and on a diplomatic level and also on and other levels internationally in international relations so that's the real damage that i think i think i'd like you said peter you said to begin to show that domestic politics is shaping international politics and they used to not be the way it is now and that's really dangerous you know line and it's getting censured of what patrick was saying there is that this whole obsession here it's destroying the institution of journalism it's destroying the faith people have in the democratic process and they and it's their faith in destroying their faith maybe even in the democratic party rob i'd like to have you back on and talk about that you know this you know the bernie side of it the this a young woman from this alexandro. has i mean you know this is

a direction here the donors are terrified palosi is terrified schumer is terrified . and it's all because this is an obsession with ending the political career of a man that was duly elected go finish up on the program finish up go ahead lionel. peter let me just remind everybody do you remember in recent history any president at his or her well his rally that was ever able to invoke and inspire this frothing frenetic excitement ever when you saw all rallies did you ever see one was as smooth a presidential on obama as this and that but this president has tapped into a sizable portion of this country that the a leader is fascistic corporate ted baxter sockpuppet media have never been able to compromise it's

a different game and by the way journalism is dead all right and i got a job and here are seven eight and i could do it entire program distracting the last three sentences you just said here that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests a new york and in plymouth and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember cross talk rules. the philippine city of angeles when the u.s. military moved out the six tourists moved in. and now a whole generation of fatherless children is growing up here. my dad an opinion one

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