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views ideas it can be anything apart from your friends if people flagged them as potential hoaxes we send those to fact checkers and if those facts are say that that is provably false then we will significantly reduce the distribution of that content why do you want to just say get off our platform will look as a porn to some of this content can be i do think that it gets down to this principle of giving people a voice eventually though the get off our platform way to sort things out still prevailed ok and now it's time to meet the fact checkers journalists have found them in a tiny room at these guys h.q. got it at the end of the day facebook's not so happy with that online policeman's hat so zuck and co are outsourcing the digital share locks i'm being serious that's what they call themselves who are let me check where they come from a. link to nato with their help thirty two suspicious pages have already
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been sorted out the big ship is not turned around overnight. but i think that the. no give them some opportunity to work with them and i hope that in a month when we have at least three other platforms in that we will see. a willingness to collaborate with us to come up with a solution bravo and it's not just facebook for doing just as great one question though since already most americans head to social media to get their news when will freedom of speech ring a bell we talked to tony brian logan a political commentator who told us that if you have known liberal views you could well end up censored. feels like the only people they have the right to speak out are those who agree with the leftist principles if you are against lefties ideology any kind of way they find a way to demonize you they call you a conspiracy theories they say it is you're promoting fake news we're coming more
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under the control of big corporations and a lot of these people who are in the government and corporations are kind of working together to colluding with each other any kind of extra regulation from the federal government will most certainly impact freedom of speech online it's going to be a battle to try and corral the internet back and kind of the mainstream media. form a where you get you news q.e.d. for you and you don't have any kind of dissenting viewpoints. according to a new poll the reputation of news organizations is in decline and found that more than a quarter of americans think the president should have the power to close media outlets deemed to be behaving badly so his kind of on the streets of new york. the american media just can't get over the anime of the people label first slapped onto it by donald trump a little while back anime of the people i think crosses a line i think it's reckless i respectfully ask that and this is a phrase that has
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a long historic provenance it goes back to the french revolution it goes back to stalin to now when the president attacks journalists we question his motivation at this point you could dismiss the comments simply as media oversensitivity or bias against donald trump however whether it's media partisanship or trumps behavior it seems pretty clear that public support for freedom of the press is stark now at this point less than half of americans say they believe the mainstream media is working hard to engage in honest reporting now what's more shocking is that twenty six percent of americans more than a quarter say they believe that the president should have the authority to shut down any media outlet. that is an gauging in what they call bad behavior now it's not surprising that most of these lidia's haters are republicans and it's no secret what outlets they want shut down. do you
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think that's surprising to you do you think a lot of americans agree that the media outlets should be shut down i do i think those smart if you're smart and you have a good mindset where you see different things then you would know things like that obviously should be shut down especially if they're not telling the whole story that's a joke that's a joke once again the school back to page one freedom of the press led to him appearing in those twenty six percent being that you know the constitution i'll be brought me i don't think the pressure be closed down but it doesn't mean we have to read it or pay attention to it i just block it out. i don't really know what their definition of bad behavior means if there is a clear definition of bad behavior i know maybe i'd agree with that statement more of course if they're imposing by always or inciting some kind of. emotion that i don't agree with them and then maybe they should be looked at more in depth. in terms of shutting them down off of you jerk reactions no i don't agree with it now
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seems that the first amendment is the first thing that many americans want to be amending. r.t. new york. the wiki leaks legal team has raised fresh concerns over the security of the whistleblowing site's founder julian assange that's off the u.s. senate committee looking into alleged russian interference in the twenty sixth and elections request to testify we can show you that letter that was sent to the ecuadorian embassy where a songe was holed up in fighting into a close to interview it says the meeting can take place at a mutually agreeable time and place but assad's lawyers are extremely cautious as the u.s. is still seeking to extradite him over his revelations and in case you forgot about those revelations here's a recap. i'm
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like a hostile intelligence sort of the talks like a hostile takeover the service. we discuss the issue with former m i five agent unemotional she thinks the us going after a publishing classified information creates a dangerous precedent. i'm sure that after seventy years mewed up in the ecuadorian embassy he wants to give his side of the story he does know exactly what happened he must be absolutely frustrated about the. the the lies and the missiles being created around russia gate so i can understand his temptation to give evidence even to a closed hearing which is difficult i mean the whole you know i thought ethos of wiki leaks is to be open and transparent and to bring information out to the public good so it's a difficult one for him i think but let's bear in mind as well that you know putting
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aside wherever this information came from wiki leaks is a publisher it is a high tech publisher but it is a publisher in the same way that the new york times the washington post and the guardian has been a publisher of similar stories so if they're going to go after him as a publisher of embarrassing information for the american government then surely they have to go after the old legacy media for publishing the very same information and this is what the old legacy media should be standing up and speaking out against the fighting against because if we can lease goes down because of these arguments then they are vulnerable to that is the end of our free media that's the end of our free speech and we are back in one minute.
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here with us today give back what you stole over a hundred years ago a tribe living on easter island one of the most isolated places on earth wants to negotiate the return of a sacred statue originally taken by the british navy and presented as a gift to queen victoria the statue ended up in the british museum where it still remains today he's honest i asked the visitors to the museum if it should part with the rock. hosting an estimated eight million objects the british museum is one of the world's best known collections of art history and culture and often the subject a fiery debate about whether all chicks sourced during the british empire as colonial times should be returned to where they came from.
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the latest dispute ironically involves a statue called lost or stolen friend a fitting name to the indigenous people of easter island or trying to recover a unique figure taken one hundred fifty years ago and given to queen victoria who then give to get to the museum this is reportedly being negotiated as we speak. the circumstances have changed and we heard that there's a possibility to discuss the stones are trying to chile with the museum and the british government the british museum attracts scores of tourists so it's not surprising the museum is putting up a fight claiming they're better preserved under its own watch sometimes offering temporary loans as a compromise but what do the visitors think let's find out through it early speaking i would say it should be returned i think it's a heritage says to stop history i can see both sides of the argument i can see
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arguments for taking away but i can also see the argument for just played by guns be bygones i guess because it's all a kind we all kind of share the same history you ultimately rule interconnected we thought over this whole kind of colonialist british empire thing and stuff nice theory but it's rare and this museum is very well operated and very well known and so i think like staying here would be at infante church what do you think about the people who say well the argument is that you know the regional places where they come from those people need to try. all the way here to be able to see some stuff that's you know sort of there is we took what they had in history and then we're now showcasing it but i think they're there's also no two in history here for people to come together and not to just see what they had in history but also what other countries have with people being able to see these things and maybe get them interested to maybe even go there to see them in person especially if you only have
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one here and there's so many that are just roaming around in the surrounding right . after announcing plans to change the constitution in order to strip white farmers of their land some south african politicians are looking for more black emancipation in the country and your party has made headlines after banning whites and foreigners from becoming members auntie's correspondent paula picks up the story. after the death of nelson mandela there has been an increase in racial politics and incitement here in south africa and now as the country starts preparing for elections to be held at the beginning of next year one new party has emerged that only for black people the muslim african congress says that its goal is to restore the ideals of african people it's gone as far as to say our membership is not open to anything that looks white this is a far cry from how mandela saw the rainbow nation have to look to it in the cities and so i don't think it's a good concept i don't think it's something that will work here though going
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backwards obviously i just like it had to share in the low the news out of it you most parties are fighting for is unity in south africa but not having a party that now takes only black people sort of like promotes racism it's become popular in south africa particularly among the white community to talk about reverse racism in other words discrimination against white people whereas once people of color who deny jobs education and political power the tables have now turned and many whites complain of being overlooked because of black economic empowerment hunter sees i think we can actually discount a party. and was we're asking congress for quite a small party and i doubt they'll get much support in the next elections but i do think a party like that if is something should be more concerned with even though that an explicitly forbid what people from or indian people from joining the party they are a trick that does lead to an increase in racial tensions and they do seem to to
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a degree be scapegoating whites and indians for a lot of the problems that we do have in south africa glacial tensions on particular do you think there are increasing but this is because of rhetoric from parties like the if if and even to a degree. i do think we are quite where nelson mandela would have liked us to have been a pleasure having you with us today here on the show when r.t. international can have more of your world might have. lines at the top of the hour hope to see. it's only natural that baby boomers were vote for policies that he helped found i house price booms the stock price and disenfranchised the bottom you know age
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and later russia as different a mile of the chains of capitalism it has long been seen in the west as one big treason ruled with an iron fist but when you've spent almost half a century documenting the lives of its people as my guest today has done you'll find that the reality is different from the ideal or ideological cliches what is cuba really like to discuss that i'm now joined by john alpert the american journalist and documentary filmmaker so it's good to see you in our studios think you're much for coming thanks for inviting me i appreciate it now you are here in russia to promote a documentary called cuba and the cameramen reach i think is a very straightforward and a very honest title because you really show cuba as you've experienced it over what is it forty five forty five years and i think this is very unusual for a western north american journalist because most of them believe that you need to cover stories from the position of either neutral observer and so often from a position of judgment rather than experience or emotion of why did you break that
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tradition i wanted american people to really experience what the cuban revolution was like and it's complicated and i don't think you can understand this in a ninety second news report i don't think you can understand it in twenty ninety second news reports i spent forty five years following three families and castro when you watch the revolution and you watch these people age and you learn a lot about cuba and i think it is also very obvious in your film that this kind of emotional involvement that you develop with your character is also allowed to you not so not only gain trust but actually gain. unprecedented access to some of them including fidel castro you go the extra mile to show him as a human being rather a historical figure the way you show came up to really how you remembered him. that's the way i remember him fredo trusted me. and with you he considered me to be
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a friend and. took the risk. in my camera into places it had never been before into his bedroom into his kitchen. taking his shirt off for me. that he is not a bullet hole but is this it's a feel that nobody had ever seen even the cubans had never seen a feel like this before but i've seen some reviews especially in the american press and they were very very critical of. the interviews that i saw i saw there were about three weeks after the really right wing people who obviously i don't think it even seen the film decided they didn't like it but up to that particular point of resetting the review was positive positive positive outlook and i think the accusation of the claims that some of the review writers made was that you were. way too friendly and not critical enough but pam how did you i think about it there
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are some very very critical moments in this film special period in cuba when the economy collapse when the soviet union fell. and they withdrew their support in cuba the negative impact on the cuban economy was like an eighty five percent contraction of their economy no electricity no transportation food shortages and because the people trusted me the people who are suffering i film things that the cuban people never filmed and that nobody else was filmed and so. the room reviews that i saw understood that. more gratifying was it and i still get them today the hundreds and hundreds of e-mails from all over the world especially from cubans and because i think you cheated them really as a human being rather than you know a foreign they're coming into their country and passing judgments about how flawed various systems really is and i think this is what many people experience with western journalists including in this country when somebody comes to your house to
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your country as flawed as it may be and tells you you know how flawed do you really are and i tried really hard to be honest. the. gratification i get is when the cuban say that when their children ask them these are pro castro nandy castro when their kids say mommy daddy what was the revolution like they're going to take my film out and show them my film now it's like to close this famous saying by a british historian lord acton that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely and i'm not sure you would put it in quite those terms but. i think being in power for so long as fidel has been in power and being hunted for so long because i think he survived more than or around six hundred assess a nation at times that would change your personality have you noticed any character changes in him over time well i think i was the last journalist. the last american to be with fidel before he died. and he was always very open and friendly with me i
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think in terms of his relationship to the united states. he had a he needed a strong defensive posture because the aggression focused on him was really really very severe i think it hurt the revolution and i think that the revolution needed to be more flexible and he to be more flexible with the human rights that needed to be more flexible economically. and. to some degree pushed into inflexible position that he didn't come out of you saying it was a matter of. personality aging or was because of the pressure that his country was subjected to i think it's both. i think it's very very important to have a very very strong feedback loop when he was young was all over the island he was playing baseball with everybody. you know he certainly couldn't do that towards the end. but every country needs to be corrected my country
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really needs to be corrected and you know that's the that's our work that's the work of false reporters some people say we're not patriotic. i would like to say that maybe that's quite a high form of patriotism when you point out the things that are wrong with your country because you want your country to be better well i agree with you but i think it also depends on how you say it because i think sometimes and that's my personal issue of the day american journalism and american or western criticism in general is that sometimes critical things are being said to put people in countries down the rod to. show them deficiences in the systems and. i heard you say in some of the other interviews that you believed that cuba was never really given a fair chance to run its social experiment to the fullest do you still believe that i sure would have liked to have seen that happen you know when the revolution began
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free health care free school housing guaranteed jobs literacy campaigns the point everybody how do we were you know we were fighting for these things in the united states at that time and the fact they were going on in cuba was very very exciting. but there was always so much tremendous pressure economically politically militarily against the regime you know would have been let the cubans experiment so we don't have to try this if it doesn't work we can look down there and all gosh it didn't work in cuba let's forget about having universal health care. but they never had the chance the problems with the communist systems in general is that while they are striving for bigger things they tend to forget about the little comforts of life and i think you put it well in one of your interviews when he said that it's good to have free education free health care it's also nice to have a hot shower shower in the morning if cuba hadn't been pressured so much if it
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hadn't been sanctioned so much do you think they would have figured out how to provide both to their population you know that they had the internal debates they were about the economy and sort of the individual is a i don't think they were resolved i think is one of the reasons why che guevara left the country because he was in conflict with some of the other people that have more power internally and the tragedies will never never know cuba is now in the process of having a pistol transition of power and the united states department of state has already described it in pretty derogatory terms. they said it wasn't free it wasn't fair it was dictatorial in nature. they also believe that this is not really a change of power after all and you know just a change of a figure had but. there's no way of knowing what i'm going to ask you at this point of time. given their way of making it an educated guess but i'm going to ask you
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still. how do you think the relationship it's been transamerica and cuba under this new president is going to develop over the next few years how do you see it i would like to see it continue on the path to normalization that was started in the previous administration i think it was healthy look at the blood. caden the animosity for fifty almost sixty years did it change the regime in cuba no it was a completely unsuccessful policy if you get in your car to go see your bush every day and your turn to key in the car doesn't go anyplace when you get in that same car every day for fifty years no you go to the metro you take some other route to this the united states had a talk about cuba's inflexibility we had a really inflexible policy too there was totally unsuccessful cost a lot of suffering on both the united states can afford to be inflexible when it comes to little neighbor now and then miles there's no point.
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that's going. to the retrogressive miami community that is every day more and more a minority unfortunately that's back and forth again the last administration realize that the majority of cuban americans want to normalization a normalized and when you normalize you can talk. and i want to tell you from my experience in cuba when the united states use sugar instead of a hammer things change in cuba in the way that the united states wanted them. were like i can't go backwards fast enough in the future to show you what what's going on in cuba now. it seems that in order to protect lection prospects in florida there is a little bit of a game that's being played with a very very very reactionary cubans who are disrespected more and more every day by the cuban community i've seen some western commentators compare this new president maybe l.d.s.
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now to now gorbachev and i know that you visited the soviet union during its reformist years of glasnost and perestroika reach as inspiring as they may be now in hindsight it ultimately led to the collapse of not only the system to the soviet system but also the collapse of the country do you think that's likely a likely scenario for cuba if the new president indeed pursues the reform agenda or if he doesn't so that was a question. that i was asking myself and i was very very curious because of the half a century that i spend cuba because of my love for the cuban people i wanted to observe this firsthand but i didn't want to preserve it from the back of the pack and so i had. asked the cuban government to allow me to come inside as they were making their deliberations as they were passing the power in to observe this basically like a fly. and. they don't answer me
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i have a choice but to be in cuba or be here in moscow for some very important thing this past week and i chose to come here to moscow instead of going to cuba well we are very happy it's you welcome a year in this country but for the time being we have to take a very short break we'll be back in just a few moments station. first .
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