the mediterranean we're on the english channel here and it's there is a direct relation of cause and effect and what we saw in two thousand and sixteen after hungary and and the other countries built fences to close off the balkan route is that national solutions are the ones that solve this problem not european ones and we are now i hope seeing the same result with the italians who are taking matters into their own hands nationally defending their national territory and it's only by doing that with because they have that the navy they have the ability to do it that their solution will end prior to the imposition of national solutions the habit was and it's a very bad structural problem in the e.u. it was that countries would simply let the migrants in like greece and italy and then send them north to germany in other words they were there were bigger the neighbor policies which is a structural problem in the you so i think we need to finish with this idea that the solution is european the problem is european role in the the arguments that the

left in the media have made is that it's already been mentioned this program think it was you demographics the need the need for workers new workers but i mean looking at the evidence i don't see a lot of these migrants particularly since two thousand and fifteen are employed across the european union they do take state benefits and in most of the country the european union have asked stared so you have very large youth unemployment so why the same polls to keep bringing in more people and less it just cheap labor go ahead roland. this is. especially. the current trend to work out some. large parts of the traditional labor force especially blue collar workers will be dismissed over the coming years and unfortunately malls. to europe do not have an indication do not tariffs. any chance of qualification and

a recent study of two european ministry of labor. that it was very difficult to qualify more than twenty to twenty five percent of all coming over the coming years to get the job and in fact the job acceptance rate employment rate of migrants and refugees is very low so this is indeed a problem and this is a myth in delhi's partly to being dismissed because it will always less correspond to the truth but let me just say something to my previous speaker. in many ways of his opinion that we need a dramatic change in immigration policy because we cannot go on like this and i think more and more europeans have understood that is as the recent elections all over europe have shown ok on the right gentlemen i have to jump in here we're going

to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on immigration stay with our kids.

but politicians do something to. put themselves on the line. to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. or somehow want to listen. to the right to be press that's like the local tree in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters in the. first city. to join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to a guest in the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. welcome back across the uk where all things are considered i'm peter we're discussing immigration.

ok let's go back to roland you want me right before we went to the rick you want to finish your point please do. you know i just wanted to say that i am not going into this of the same opinion i mean one crucial point which is i think we need more europe and not less europe to solve to crisis and to give you a practical example so they we have to harmonize the as the laws and it is the most urgent issue to solve today it is possible that a migrant that is not accepted in one country for example in germany can just switch country and restart applying in another country for example it meets a prince and if you doesn't succeed he or she doesn't succeed there they just switch on and go we have to how nice their laws to accept and see because we have to harmonize to reduce duration and of course we have to

harmonize that a collaboration of security can to suckle regions for example germany has the clear parts of afghanistan a secure country and doesn't accept that still i'm sick is just sweet street to leap in there accepted because italy has not declared parts of afghanistan to secure so we have urgently to find transnational european solutions to these problems otherwise we will not be able to stop the crisis ok i just can see in paris john is really disagreeing let me go to ralph well quickly it seems to me that roland you want to create the united states of europe and everything to date shows that's not what people want no one ever asked the europeans if they ever wanted that route let me go to you are not a very important issue there isn't being brought up here and this applies to the united states and europe is that there are criminal gangs making a fortune off of this scam ok bringing people in their n.g.o.s you know they do gooders but no they're blinded by ideology they're there pat they're ideologically

possessed they have a hatred for their own culture a hatred for europe they want to just wipe it away and fill it up with foreign alien people i'm sorry to sound so politically incorrect but that is. particularly the criminal gangs in south of the south of in the mexican border and all through the mediterranean you have a lot of people preying on some very weak people and i'd like to point out also that it's often forgotten the people that do want to immigrate to the united states and to europe they should stay in their own country and build their own country ok and set of having the west have to subsidize them in their own country where they left ok that's a lot said right there go ahead ralph. yes i do agree to a certain extent because i once raised a question that even when the press conference with mrs merkel and she made the same mistake that many people do it was also in our discussion here now that we mix migration issues the asylum you know to uphold the asylum the right of assad which

is a human right and we have to upload to those who need it we cannot make stepped issue with migration now what i do agree with is that what we see at the moment at the mexican border is probably a setup by deep state or by some people who want to make mr trump act and mr trump is not on your because he remembers what happened to two misses mark of an untreated suddenly at the refugees coming in and this was advertised as the bucket route by the media not to beginning up this year sometime in spring i watched a program on c.n.n. there was a colleague on the report a colleague on the on a bus tour from central america to watch the. u.s. border and reporting from it and advertising it kind of saying out as a way to go to the united states of course you can instigate and obviously this stuff trump is facing because now i'm not see these crying children and parents being arrested of all that i don't think that he wants to see that but it's now

a fact that they want to carry him over the red tape like did it with mrs merkel and ben was the only two time state and the government in the last twelve years one decision was less about of a magic process and she pumped billions into banking banking systems aiding banking systems the second decisions he made during the twelve iran was in two thousand putin to say ok these people sleeping on train stations stick and column but after that she lost control and this is what people are voting for right wing parties and leftists do make to mistake especially in the army i see that they do not have an answer to the sentiments of people we are able to take many more refugees it's a. the problem because we're a rich country but we have to take care of people who are already in germany first and then we can say become so much worse but asylum should be separate from that because there's no limit to that's a human right you know john a lot has been said since he last spoke there and i can read your mind this far

away that more europe is not the solution juxtaposition when our friend roland had to say go ahead john. yes i wanted to come back to that point in response to the question you asked about the economic rationale you rightly put your finger on the paradox that immigration is justified economically because it keeps wages down and gives a supply of cheap labor and so on but that in reality of course many of the migrants end up being out of work and in any case there's a lot of youth unemployment in europe by asking that question peter you have highlighted the point i made in my first answer namely that the ideological reasons that i referred to which are european are not motivated by economic good sense we can have a debate about whether or not you need cheap labor britain by the way is an economic model for that because britain has imported millions of low cost workers from

poland and romania since two thousand and four and we've seen the effects of that on the economy an increase in g.d.p. and a collapse in productivity but that's not what's driving the immigration ideology it's it's precisely not economic rational it is instead ideology you know it's important to recall that one of the founding fathers of the european integration is movement richard from couldn't move in one nine hundred twenty five called for the races of europe to be mixed with other bloods for the european race to be mixed with other bloods in order to create a new european of the future he had a sort of racialist if you accept the other way around from the nazis who wanted racial mix city racial diversity and this idea which he first published in one thousand nine hundred five he's a big figure he was the first president of the of the council of europe for example this idea remains alive today in the minds of european leaders particularly

incidentally german ones. now president of the. for many years the german minister of finance. said in an interview indeed sight in two thousand and sixteen that if we didn't have migrants and we kept them out then europe would descend into incest he used the word incest and similarly the german president york in the dark said we needed migrants to get rid of the idea that me being german means being white and being christian so there is a very clear ideological drive here to inject new populations into europe in order to change the structure of those populations and that is part of the european dream it's part of the post national europe but just goes very very far as a giant and that's why our in europe is not the how would that make europe better i don't get it ok i travel through europe all the time i don't see it's improving i see it's declining rapidly go ahead finish up john peter peter the bolshevik

revolution didn't make russia better but that didn't mean that people didn't believe in it they believed in it because it's an ideology it's a post national ideology which these people want to implement by replacing the population in their crazy minds that's what they're doing ok we're all in it you know italy has been here very hard by this immigration crisis we can use that word i mean shouldn't italy on its own be able to decide what happens with inside its borders i mean why is it waiting for merkel ways and waiting for brussels why is it waiting for this summit that's going to happen in the weekend i mean italy's a sovereign country care it should take care of its people first particularly the unemployment a bit so you think it's critical right now go ahead roland and it and tell you have to decide for themselves go ahead well i did that is exactly what is happening now after the last elections of march for. the biggest issues to do right and we were

in. need to lead and in fact the new government is blocking. ngo ship saying they're not democratically controlled the new government he's seeking it but there's a patient of spain and he's putting merkel especially in german chancellor under strong pressure to find a different solution only solution is needed in europe is to control the out of borders we have to retake control us in council president donald poland stated already and for and we have to regain control of for up to borders yes but what of the what about that i'm sorry all right what about italy's borders what about italy's borders isn't that the first thing you should be thinking about first and italians or yeah the sad thing is that in this point you're absolutely right italy is forced to take control over its own borders many more or less alone

why i give you an example from official agency of border protection in europe is in washoe and teaches four hundred four collaborators to protect the whole of. europe and has total budget of two hundred eighty one million which is one hundred of work germany alone spent a year for the refugees which is that these proportion that cannot be upheld weir's known portion that yeah that's an understatement my friend that's an understatement ok amazing let me go to rouse here i mean ralph if we could put put aside all the ideology and all the virtues signaling what so what some concrete things to do in the united states i think there should be built a wall then there won't be any children torn from their parents ok it won't happen what can your do as a first step in your mind a practical step. but i own i would probably ask for

a moment i know it is two lives on the island surrounded by a wall and we don't want to see voids anymore but i understand. in the united states it's a different started of course the wall that was to keep people from falling from dare come in you look country so it's a bit different of course to compare these two was generally i think best to be better as european speech should come and discuss how we can bank live in countries where my friends have to leave the country because they feel not safe the second point is weak and of course proof things in those countries fighting negotiating d.e.v.'s d. your in partnership agreement of africa i've spent a lot of time on africa at the moment and you know obviously you notice. if we're almost out of time but one thing the west could do is stop bombing those countries so these people won't flee ok that would be a first good practical step we've run out of time gentlemen many thanks to my

guests and parents know and we've got to end thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember. when i was still seemed wrong. why don't we all just don't. let me. get to sleep out this day comes to. an end game because the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.

america was never great was founded on the rape in the murder. nothing changed so we said in. response to these situations that we're dealing with. people here is sad every day she is just sad people kill each other blood for killing children. so it was just no way that people are going to just sit back and allow children to be shot down law enforcement. this country doesn't work for us it doesn't function for us. this is can't be happening in america we call from the streets we've got to deal with why this is the reason i have to ride like this is the reason.

the way to the united states is dangerous for most of the illegal immigrants. because you have got an artist that's not the little sympathy i want to become lost a mentor and i've learned the lessons from this about what if many of them look for refuge in the so-called sentry sites the drifter used to share information about undocumented migrants with federal authorities only best person to ask than call mom. was you know you know i've ended up my son i get i'm in a lot of class and i want that. they had water they all choose to stay in the country with donald trump in the white house all of the political rivals because both of you what if the if you beat up to the loop of the offense it struggles of any couple won't. kill which at the push concluded bills and spawn both both from both of you up of a few hope of the. the

. white nationalists and the anti are fascists and rally in washington d.c. on the first anniversary of the deadly charlottesville riots. moscow says it will view any further u.s. sanctions as an economic war after washington announces new penalties over the poisoning of russian double agent sergei screwed paul and his daughter in the u.k. . and that we need a russian woman who faces imprisonment for terrorism after following her husband to syria where he joined islamic state. i told my husband that i wanted to go back that i couldn't live there but the moment i started talking about it we had fights he told me if you want to leave leave but i will not let you take the kids away.

or broadcasting live direct from our studios in moscow recapping the week's top stories with our weekly program this is our team international. a far right groups have held a rally in washington d.c. a year on from deadly unrest in charlottesville virginia they were met by counter-demonstrations last year's unite the right margin charlottesville left one woman dead and a bit of a warning you might find the video of those events disturbing.

the terrorism is is the use of violence to incite terror and fear and of course will stir this egregious display of hatred bigotry and violence on many. many sects. the head of sunday's anniversary of rallies a republican congressman tom garrett claimed that russia was behind the events in two thousand and seventeen. i sat in a closed session briefing probably two months ago about charlottesville with the director of the f.b.i. amongst others and asked if russian intermeddling had to do with fomenting the flames of what happened in charlottesville i was told yes it did but he says he got it from an f.b.i. briefing which was not classified and look if he has information if the f b i has

information i'd love to hear it so what erica but it seems kind of bizarre to me that a congressman who says he's not running for reelection because he's having personal problem all of a sudden with a couple of months left in his term takes the opportunity on c.n.n. which will do anything to bash trump and to accused russia of anything like used to even the food in a restaurant he knows something that nobody has ever heard of until this point that was russia's quote last year well then what's the where's the information if it's not classified tell us everything you found out so i don't i don't believe that it's information let's see it but until i see it i'm not going to go on on congressman garrett say we're so i think that's ridiculous. crowds were rallying outside the white house throughout sunday on to scale up and was their force. so we're here in lafayette park and as you can see we're surrounded by a huge anti-racist demonstration a crowd of thousands is denouncing the twenty four or so white supremacy white

nationalists whatever you want to call them that have gathered directly in front of the white house now there are thousands of people here representing a very broad group of organizations that we've got church groups that are out here black nationalist groups marxists far left is anarchists we've seen the antifungal a lot of them assembled actually a lot of anti fine folks assembled wearing gas masks helmets almost as if they're ready for some kind of confrontation now we're also hearing the sound of police helicopters that are flying above however at the moment it appears that no scuffles a broken out we have not heard any reports of injuries now the. the white nationalist white supremacy what i'm going to call them that assembled in front of the white house neo nazis klansman. they seem to have assembled in front of the white house and a lot of them were wearing the hats make america great again supporting president trump they had a lot of american flags we did not see the confederate flag that is the symbol that

they are most well known for displaying now this crowd here is out there we are seeing the display of signs saying black lives matter and support of african-americans around police brutality issues we're seeing denunciations of donald trump calls for his impeachment where we did have an opportunity to speak with some of the people who had assembled here at the white house and we were here to talk to them and a lot of these folks who came out to do to counter the ku klux klan to counter the white nationalist a lot of them had different ideas some of them buy into this idea that russia is responsible for divisions in the usa but others do not you buy in the idea that it's russia's fault of the people having the rally over there somehow the fall of russia russian bought tacker facebook yet not even a little and why do you think that's so big in the mainstream media why are they pushing that so hard. that suggestion i don't know i think it a kind of it's comforting to hear that this is russia's fault and not something has been clean wrong with america since the foundation of this country it's nice to say

it's russia's fault go and it's trumps fault and that once trump is gone and once you know the elections are more secure and all races never fade away because the russian bots or the russian hackers are no longer influencing people to be racist but that's not true it's just a nice story you can tell yourself say this racism and this is the white supremacy the united states is not the fault of the united states the fault of rush hour you know whatever else the media is kind of using the russia stuff as a way to. go after the laughs s. they're saying all these left wing activists are being. you know misled by russia or russia is behind it and you know even. so there are genuine grievances to be had with you know all sorts of things that in russia plays a minor role if any and you know on the internet do you buy the idea that all this racism and all this division and all these protests are all caused by russia. no i honestly think it's just what i want to highlight is the intersectionality of what

happened like there were a small amount of white supremacists here but there are a lot of people who are coming to counter protest them so i don't blame russia very wide variety of causes represented here in front of the white house says thousands of people that come out the other night unified around much but when it comes to opposing the ku klux klan opposing the white nationalist that is one thing that has brought all these people together caleb mopping archie washington d.c. . russia's prime minister has warned that if the u.s. goes ahead with sanctions against russia's major banks it will be viewed as an act of economic war that was after a first wave of measures was announced over moscow's alleged role in the poisoning of russian double agents sergei screwball and his daughter back in march and the new sanctions that banned russian state owned firms from buying certain american electronic devices on security grounds a much tougher second wave which has yet to be passed into law could prevent

leading russian banks from obtaining credit on the international markets and he said he takes up the story for us. when it comes to global disagreement sanctions that the u.s. weapon of choice as russia's number two at the u.n. put it let's us welcome the united sanctions of america well russia is being on the receiving end of plenty of them they stem from allegations of election meddling military aggression human rights abuses all cyber crimes take your pick and the latest well that's of the souls we're poisonings washington says it has determined that russia used a military nerve agent to attack form a double agent sic a script paul and his daughter where are you getting the conclusion that her she's behind the screen poisoning i would leave it to others to characterize the current state of our understanding of the screen but others haven't given any evidence either just various grades of highly likely is highly likely that russia was responsible to the poles russia culpable culpable culpable culpable for the

attempted murder and this been uncertainty from specialists investigating the case . as analysis of the p.c. w.'s repeat what i did to find the country. of origin of the agent used in this attack and we continue to see a sort of a series of corporate baggers here of insinuation that russia is involved which basically is a mood music which isn't feeding the population in the west with the idea yes it is the russians despite the evidence just a constant constant stream of these. people just accept oh yes it must be the russians therefore that's ok we all must import more sanctions it's time that we did get all the evidence but my suspicion is that as going to happen although that seems of little interest to washington which is found guilty slapped it with new sanctions and strangely given its ninety days to prove it wasn't involved or it

will ratchet up the penalties to a whole new level with even talk of branding russia a state sponsor of terrorism that regardless of trump. wanting russia as a partner in his fight against terror and dettol say it doesn't seem to matter that the us itself is has a long history of consulting with groups branded as terrorists for instance america's support for the union movement which techie label to terror groups organizing and attempted yet sooner or later the united states will make a choice either to. either the bloody ok so. walk or see. or how about the american officials here they are a in extremist group then wish i had seen a coke who bombs the heads courtis of public policy there is a viable opposition to the rule of the ayatollah was and that opposition is centered in this room.