italians who are taking matters into their own hands nationally defending their national territory and it's only by doing that with because they have that the navy they have the ability to do it that their solution will end prior to the imposition of national solutions have it was and it's a very bad structural problem in the e.u. it was that countries would simply let the migrants in like greece and italy and then send them north to germany in other words they were there were bigger the neighbor policy which is a structural problem in the so i think we need to finish with this idea that the solution is european the problem is european role in the the arguments that the left in the media have made is that it's already been mentioned this program think it was you demographics the need the need for workers new workers but i mean looking at the evidence i don't see a lot of these migrants particularly since two thousand and fifteen are employed across the european union they do take state benefits and in most of the country the european union have austerity so you have very large youth unemployment so why

the same poles to keep bringing in more people and less it just cheap labor go ahead roland. you know this is. especially if we can go count the current trend to work out some of the station. large parts of the traditional labor force especially blue collar workers will be dismissed over the coming years and unfortunately malls. to europe do not have an indication do not have any change of qualification. a recent study of. a ministry of labor. that it was very difficult to qualify more than twenty to twenty five percent of all coming over the coming years to get a job and you track the job acceptance rate employment rate of migrants and refugees is very low. so this is indeed a problem and this is

a myth and then he's partly to being dismissed because it will always less correspond to the truth but let me just say something to my previous speaker. in many ways of his opinion that we need a dramatic change in immigration policy because we cannot go on like this and i think more and more europeans have understood that is as the recent elections all over europe have shown ok and i gentleman i have to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on immigration stay with our kids.

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ok let's go back to roland you want me right before we went to the rick you want to finish your point please do. you know i just wanted to say that i am not in this same opinion in one crucial point which is i think we need more of europe and not lesser europe to solve to crisis and i give you a practical example today we have to harmonize the seal of laws and it is the most urgent issue to solve today it is possible that a migrant that is not accepted in one country for example in germany can just switch country and restart the blinding in another country for example it needs a leader in france and if you doesn't succeed he or she doesn't succeed there they just switch on and go we have to how nice their laws to accept and see because we have to harmonize to reduce duration and of course we

have to harmonize that a collaboration of secure. regions for example germany has the clear parts of afghanistan a secure country and doesn't accept the salem sea because they just sweep streets a league in their accepted because italy has not declared parts of afghanistan to secure so we have urgently to find transnational european solutions for these problems otherwise we will not be able to stop the crisis ok i just can see in paris john is really disagreeing let me go to ralph well quickly it seems to me that roland you want to create the united states of europe and everything to date shows that's not what people want no one ever asked the europeans if they ever wanted that route let me go to you are not a very important issue there than being brought up here and this applies to the united states and europe is that there are criminal gangs making a fortune off of this scam ok bringing people in their n.g.o.s you know they do gooders but no they're blinded by ideology they're their power they're

ideologically possessed they have a hatred for their own culture a hatred for europe they want to just wipe it away and fill it up with foreign alien people i'm sorry to sound so politically incorrect but that is true. particularly the criminal gangs in the south of the south in the mexican border and all through the mediterranean you have a lot of people preying on some very weak people and i'd like to point out also that it's often forgotten the people that do want to immigrate to the united states and to europe they should stay in their own country and build their own country ok and set of having the west have to subsidize them in their own country where they left ok that's a lot said right there go ahead ralph. yes i do agree to a certain extent because i once raised a question movement a press conference with mrs merkel and she made the same mistake that many people do it was also in our discussion here now that we mix migration issues that. you know to uphold the asylum the right of assad and which is

a human right and we have to upload to those who need it we cannot make step issue with migration now what i do agree with is that what we see at the moment at the mexican border as problem is set up by deep state or by some people who want to make mr trump act and mr trump is not on your because he remembers what happened to two this is mark of an injury suddenly at the refugees coming in and this was advertised as the bucket route by the media not to beginning up this year sometime in spring i watched a program on c.n.n. there was a colleague on the report a colleague on the on a bus tour from central america to watch the. u.s. border and reporting from it and advertising it kind of saying out as a way to go to the united states of course you can instigate and obviously this stuff trump is facing because now i'm not see these crying children and parents being arrested of all that i don't think that he wants to see that but it's now

a fact that they want to carry him of red tape like did it with mrs merkel and ben was the only two time state and the government in the last twelve years one decision was less about of a magic process and she pumped billions into banking banking systems ending banking systems the second decisions he made during the twelve iran was in two thousand putin to say ok these people sleeping on train stations stick and column but after that she lost control and this is what people are voting for right wing parties and leftists do make the mistake especially in the army i see that they do not have an answer to the sentiments of people we are able to take many more refugees it's now . the problem because we're a rich country but we have to take it in germany. in germany first and then we can say. my purpose but asylum should be separate from that because there's no limit to that's a human right you know john a lot has been said since he last spoke there and i can read your mind this far

away that more europe is not the solution juxtaposition with our friend roland had to say go ahead john. yes i wanted to come back to that point in response to the question you asked about the economic rationale you rightly put your finger on the paradox that immigration is justified economically because it keeps wages down and gives a supply of cheap labor and so on but that in reality of course many of the migrants end up being out of work and in any case there's a lot of youth unemployment in europe by asking that question peter you have highlighted the point i made in my first answer namely that the ideological reasons that i referred to which are european are not motivated by economic good sense we can have a debate about whether or not you need cheap labor britain by the way is an economic model for that because britain has imported millions of low cost workers from

poland and romania since two thousand and four and we've seen the effects of that on the economy an increase in g.d.p. and a collapse in productivity but that's not what's driving the immigration ideology it's it's precisely not economic rational it is instead ideology you know it's important to recall that one of the founding fathers of the european integration is movement richard fun couldn't move in one nine hundred twenty five called for the races of europe or to be mixed with other bloods for the european race to be mixed with other bloods in order to create a new european of the future he had a sort of racialist if you accept the other way around from the nazis who wanted racial mix city racial diversity and this idea which he first published in one thousand nine hundred five he's a big figure he was the first president of the of the council of europe for example this idea remains alive today in the minds of european leaders particularly

incidentally german ones. now president of the board for many years the german minister of finance. said in an interview indeed sight in two thousand and sixteen that if we didn't have migrants and we kept them out then europe would descend into incest he used the word incest and similarly the german president york in the dark said we needed migrants to get rid of the idea that me being german means being white and being christian so there is a very clear ideological drive here to inject new populations into europe in order to change the structure of those populations and that is part of the european dream it's part of the post national europe but just goes very very hard john and that's why our in europe is not the how would that make europe better i don't get it ok i travel through europe all the time i don't see it's improving i see it's declining rapidly go ahead finish up john peter peter the bolshevik revolution didn't make

russia better but that didn't mean that people didn't believe in it they believed in it because it's an ideology it's a post national ideology which these people want to implement by replacing the population in their crazy minds that's what they're doing ok we're all in it you know italy has been here very hard by this immigration crisis we can use that word i mean shouldn't italy on its own be able to decide what happens with inside its borders i mean why is it waiting for merkel ways and waiting for brussels why is it waiting for this summit that's going to happen in the weekend i mean italy's a sovereign country care it should take care of its people first particularly the unemployment a bit so you think it's critical right now go ahead roland and a towel you have to decide for themselves go ahead well i did that is exactly what is happening now after the last elections of march for. the biggest issues to the

right. you know. need to leave and in fact the new government is blocking. ngo ship saying they're not democratically controlled the new government is seeking to put this information of spain and he's putting merkel especially in german chancellor under strong pressure to find a different solution only solution is needed in europe is to control it out of borders we have to retake control us be in council president donald bull and stated already in two thousand and fourteen we have to regain control of four of the borders yellow what are the what about that i'm sorry we're all right what about italy's borders what about italy's borders isn't that the first thing you should be thinking about first and italians or yeah the sad thing is that in this point you are absolutely right it really is forced to take control over its

own borders many more or less alone why i give you an example from official agency of border protection in europe is based in washington and features four hundred four collaborators to protect the whole of. europe and has total budget of two hundred eighty one million which is one hundred ths of work germany alone spent a year for the refugees which is a disproportioned it cannot be upheld we just need one portion that yeah that's an understatement my friend is that's an understatement ok amazing let me go to rouse here i mean ralph if we could put put aside all the ideology and all the virtues signaling what so what some concrete things to do in the united states i think there should be built a wall then there won't be any children torn from their parents ok it won't happen what can your do as a first step in your mind a practical step. but i own i would probably ask for

a moment i know it is two lives on the island surrounded by a wall and we don't want to see voids anymore but i understand. in the united states it's a different started of course the wall that we had to keep people from stealing from chip in to a country so it's a bit different of course to compare these two was just going to be i think to be better of. europe. coming to discuss how we can bank live in countries where it might have to leave the country because they feel safe the second is weak and of course things in those countries fighting negotiating to be added to your in partnership agreements of africa i've spent a lot of time now in africa at the moment and you know obviously you know. we're almost out of time but one thing the west could do is stop bombing those countries so these people won't fully ok that would be

a first good practical step we've run out of time gentlemen many thanks to my guests and parents know and we've got to end thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember. what politicians do you should. put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected . so when you want to be president. some want to press. you to go right to be approached this is one of the four three of them will be good . i'm interested in the war.

america was never great was founded on the rape in the murder. nothing changed so we said no response to these situations that we're dealing with. people just sad every day she is just sad people kill each other blood for killing children. how to swim is just no way that people are going to just sit back and allow children to be shot down law enforcement. this country doesn't work for us it doesn't function for us. this is can't be happening in america we call from the streets we've got to deal with why this is the reason i have to ride like this is the reason.

the way to the united states is dangerous for most of the illegal immigrants. because you've got an artist that's not the little sympathy i want to take on most of enter and i won the last post on this topic but i have many of them look for refuge in the so-called sentry sites the draft used to share information about undocumented migrants with federal authorities how to best friends and i asked ban commom. most you know no i've ended up next time i get i'm in a lot of class and i want to that. they have that water they all choose to stay in the country with donald trump in the white house all of the political rivals because it's both of you who is the who can be brought to the loop with both a sense it stumbles of many couples won't. kill which at the push concluded will spawn both both a point of view of the poor the hope of the. the

taste is good. food is good. the lifestyle is good. good food russia sharing goodness. twitter's free news failed networks accused of boosting this information revealed photos diverted from our revenue encouraged stories about so-called russian vaults . even u.s. allies are rallying against washington over its moves to impose sanctions on trade measures. and the talks with donald trump to improve relations.

newly declassified cables reveal cia director gina hospital's past involvement in the agency's torture program giving gruesome details. from moscow to the world this is r.t. international my names you know neal good to have your company top story. fake news crusade seems to have backfired it's emerged out. of revenue earned from r t before we were banned from advertising on the site actually boosted the spread of stories up but suppose said russian balts in france going over the details earlier with me quarter. well it all started with twitter as anti dissent

from ation campaign and that was where it funded research organizations to collect fake to collect information on fake news outlets and one of these in for one of these organizations was belgian ngo disinfo lab following when you police during the twenty sixteen u.s. campaign which involved the purchase of commercials by russia today in sputnik to be committed to redistribute the one point nine million dollars to organizations fighting this information. received one hundred twenty five thousand dollars in january twentieth this info will they receive the phones back in january what i've been doing with them what the they come up with sits well they formed a list of twitter users which who are writing a lot about what was called the but now a case and that was one french president macron his bodyguard was labeled a so-called rusa file now these users were also branded groups of files and some high profile people on the list didn't take too kindly to that hey stupid spook i'm

not a russian but it's just me who tweets against you if you need to leave me to remember is that you're even dumber than you look so i number one four four five two. purchased ration number one four eight zero two database censorship manipulation of information the secret service nice new world but then how did the story of a kremlin twitter plot against the money will appear which it did how did that come about well the mainstream media took this to a whole new level there were people talking about a russian plot and even disinfo lab itself was surprised at this interpretation we did not modify the conclusions of our study a lot of media reported that we studied and identified that there had been russian meddling that the russian state orchestrated interference in the banal a scandal we never said this the fact that lumet is all the government spokesperson immediately exploded this for political ends created this sort of hype that was

never the object of our study but here's the kicker our team paid twitter one point nine million dollars for advertising and ironically after they blocked our team and sputnik from advertising on twitter part of that money was used to fund this disinfo lab research project and now this research is being used by the mainstream media to slander russia itself. to another headline stories this hour iran's supreme leader has rejected holding talks with the u.s. following president trump's offer of a meeting to improve bilateral ties and a bluntly worded tweet ayatollah khomeini wrote real u.s. officials comments about iran and for mentioning the talk of war to which the ayatollah stated there will never be war nor negotiations there have been months of increasing strains after the u.s. reimpose sanctions suspended as part of the twenty fifteen nuclear deal. well there

have been several fiery exchanges between washington and tehran ahead of re imposing sanctions on iran mr trump threatened dire consequences only to backtrack days after that to offering an olive branch to iranian president rouhani never ever threaten the united states again or you will suffer consequences the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before we are no longer a country that will stand for your demented words of violence and death be cautious so i believe in meeting i would certainly meet with a round if they wanted to meet i don't know that they're ready yet no preconditions no they want to meet only anytime they want well as well as around there's similar anger from neighboring turkey at the united states whose president described then you have to trade tariffs against a fellow nato ally us a breach of trust. you first become a strategic partner then you shoot your partner in the food there is no plausible

explanation for taking such an intel units to stumps towards a street that is how you have the tool is a need to well. turkey come in the wake of a disputes over the detention of an american. all the many i'm being raised to twenty five percent while turkish steel is no subject to a fifty percent tara it sent the turkish lira plummeting on currency exchanges hitting a record low against the us dollar. let's go live now. experts on middle east politics and research at the university of essex in britain good to have you on the program we've seen trump try this formula before with north korea first threatening then extending the olive branch how can we why isn't the working of a round so far do you think well

firstly thank you very much for having me i find this very fascinating because i think i strongly believe that the iranian supreme leader. does know that the renegotiations will put iran at a disadvantage this is part of the diplomatic and political game that they're playing is that you know to be honest with you both parties are trying to show the fact that they are willing to negotiate yet you know as long as it's on their terms so i think here. the supreme leader understands that and it's very interesting that . it's the supreme leader that said it rather than the president because. in the power structure in iran. the supreme leader really has the most

or has the power all all operated as all power really leads to the supreme leader so i find that very. interesting and it because it gives a more. a more accurate stance on the current psyche of iran now they're very suspicious of any kind of renegotiation by the united states yeah a run accuses the us of not being trust worthy quite direct without language slamming donald trump for being predictable with that in mind how can buy lots of talks even begin to get off the ground from here. well. firstly the we have to understand is that the public by lateral talks could probably be we don't we won't see any public bilateral talks this does not mean that there are any not any kind of box channels that could

happen now whoever looks at the literature of uranium in an american relations understands very well that most of their relations have been through back channels in very. private and. tacit way and in very official way so in terms of the public discourse they won't do anything unless there is a clear understanding to avoid any kind of an bear summit so i don't see that happening anytime soon and if you do see that happening it will be of the result of the. discourse and the negotiations and the kind of exchanges of communication through these back channels because that's really where the consensus is built yet it looks like as we look at this overall as the there seems to be no escape from trump's targets or sanctions whether you're friend or foe what's your take what's

the russian now behind essentially winding everybody up a broad with punitive policies. well i think this is to be honest with you i really can't there's a lot of people that try to understand president trump but what i do find very interesting here and what i'm very confident in in explaining is the what this shows whether they're you know whether. there's a rationale behind it or not whether it's a good move or not oh or productive for the united states or not this shows truly that the united states still maintains its agency in the world. and in particular the middle east now during the time of president obama there was my.