very large youth unemployment so why the same polls to keep bringing in more people and less it just cheap labor go ahead roland. this is a new especially for it took into account the current trend toward out some of the station. large parts of the traditional labor falls especially blue collar workers will be dismissed over the coming years and unfortunately most of those who cross you know a girl or ways to europe do not have an indication do not attach any kind of qualification and a recent study of to european and ministry of labor. that it was very difficult to qualify more than twenty to twenty five percent of all coming over the coming years to get a job and you tracked the job acceptance rate employment rate of migrants and refugees is very low so this is indeed a problem and this is

a myth and daddy's partly to being dismissed because it will always less correspond to the truth but let me just say something to my previous speaker. in many ways of his opinion that we need a dramatic change in immigration policy because we cannot go on like this and i think more and more europeans have understood that is as the recent elections all over europe have shown ok on the ira and i gentlemen i have to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on immigration stay with arcade.

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finish a point please do. you know i just wanted to say that i am not going into this of the same opinion in one crucial point which is i think we need more europe and not less europe to solve to crisis and i give you a practical example today we have to harmonize the as the laws and it is the most urgent issue to solve today it is possible that a migrant that is not accepted in one country for example in germany can just switch country and restart applying in another country for example it meets a prince and if you doesn't succeed kiyoshi doesn't succeed there they just switch on and go we have to how nice their laws to accept and see because we have to harmonize to reduce duration and of course we have to harmonize that a collaboration of secure. the region for example germany has the clear parts of afghanistan a secure country and doesn't accept this in i'm sick is just sweet street to leap

in there accepted because italy has not declared parts of afghanistan to secure so we have urgently to find transnational european solutions for these problems otherwise we will not be able to stop the crisis ok i just can see in paris john is really disagreeing let me go to ralph well quickly it seems to me that roland you want to create the united states of europe and everything to date shows that's not what people want no one ever asked the europeans if they ever wanted that route let me go to you are not a very important issue there isn't being brought up here and this applies to the united states and europe is that there are criminal gangs making a fortune off of this scam ok bringing people in their n.g.o.s you know they do gooders but no they're blinded by ideology they're there pat they're ideologically possessed they have a hatred for their own culture a hatred for europe they want to just wipe it away and fill it up with foreign alien people i'm sorry to sound so politically incorrect but that is true.

particularly the criminal gangs in the south of the south in the mexican border and all through the mediterranean you have a lot of people preying on some very weak people and i'd like to point out also that it's often forgotten the people that do want to immigrate to the united states and to europe they should stay in their own country and build their own country ok and set of having the west have to subsidize them in their own country where they left ok that's a lot said right there go ahead ralph. yes i do agree to a certain extent because i once raised a question even when the press conference with mrs merkel and she made the same mistake that many people do it was also in our discussion here now that we mix migration issues that asylum you know to uphold the asylum the right of assad which is a human right and we have to upload to those who need it we cannot make stepped issue with migration now what i do agree with is that what we see at the moment at the

mexican border is probably a step up by deep state or by some people who want to make me stop trying to act mr trump is not on your because he remembers what happened to do as mark of an untreated suddenly had to refugees coming in and this was advertised as the fuckin route by the media not to beginning up this year sometime in spring i watched a program on c.n.n. there was a colleague on the report a colleague on the on a bus tour from central america to watch the. u.s. border and reporting from it and advertising it kind of saying out as a way to go to the united states of course you can instigate and obviously this stuff trump is facing because now i'm. crying children and parents being arrested of all that i don't think that he wants to see that but it's now a fact that they want to carry him up with red tape like did it with mrs merkel and ben was the only two times government in the last twelve years one decision was less about

a financial crisis and she pumped billions into banking banking systems ending banking systems the second decisions he made during the twelve iran was in two thousand fifteen to say ok these people sleeping on train stations stick and caught but after that she lost control and this is why people voting for right wing parties and leftists do make the mistake especially in germany i see that they do not have an answer to the sentiments of the book we are able to take many more refugees it's a. the problem because we have a rich coming but we have to take care of people who are already in germany first and then we can say become so much worse but asylum should be separate from that because there's no limit to that's a human right you know john a lot has been said since he last spoke there and i can read your mind this far away that more europe is not the solution juxtaposition what our friend roland had to say go ahead john. yes i wanted to come back to that point in response to the

question you asked about the economic rationale you rightly put your finger on the paradox that immigration is justified economically because it keeps wages down and gives a supply of cheap labor and so on but that in reality of course many of the migrants end up being out of work and in any case there's a lot of youth unemployment in europe by asking that question peter you have highlighted the point i made in my first answer namely that the ideological reasons that i referred to which are european are not motivated by economic good sense we can have a debate about whether or not you need cheap labor britain by the way is an economic model for that because britain has imported millions of low cost workers from poland and romania since two thousand and four and we've seen the effects of that on the economy an increase in g.d.p. and a collapse in productivity but that's not what's driving the immigration ideology

it's it's precisely not economic rational it is instead ideology you know it's important to recall that one of the founding fathers of the european integration is movement richard fun couldn't move in one nine hundred twenty five called for the races of europe or to be mixed with other bloods for the european race to be mixed with other bloods in order to create a new european of the future he had a sort of racial if he first published in one thousand nine hundred five he's a big figure he was the first president of the of the council of europe for example this idea said in an interview indeed site in two thousand and sixteen that if we didn't have migrants and we kept them out then europe would descend into incest he used the word incest and similarly the german book said that we needed migrants to get rid of the idea that me being german means being white and being chris. so there is a very clear ideological drive here to inject new populations into europe in order

to change the structure of those populations and that is part of the european dream it's part of the post national europe but just goes very very far as a giant and that's why our in europe is not the how would that make europe better i don't get it ok i travel through europe all the time i don't see it's improving i see it's declining rapidly go ahead finish up john peter peter the bolshevik revolution didn't make russia better but that didn't mean that people didn't believe in it they believed in it because it's an ideology it's a post national ideology which these people want to implement by replacing the population in their crazy minds that's what they're doing ok we're all in it you know italy has been here very hard by this immigration crisis we can use that word i mean shouldn't italy on its own be able to decide what happens with inside its borders i mean why is it waiting for merkel ways and waiting for brussels why is it

waiting for this summit that's going to happen in the weekend i mean italy's a sovereign country care it should take care of its people first particularly the unemployment a bit so you think it's critical right now go ahead roland and at talian have to decide for themselves go ahead well i did that is exactly what is happening now after the last elections of march for we have the biggest issues to do right ever in. world war two history need to lead and in fact the new government is blocking and geo ship saying they are not democratically controlled the new government. is a patient of spain and he's looking merkel especially in german chancellor under strong pressure to try and determine solution only solution is needed in europe is to control the out of borders. we have to retake control us b.

and council president of poland stated already in two thousand and fourteen we have to regain control of four of the borders yes but what of that what about the it i'm sorry all right what about italy's borders what about italy's borders isn't that the first thing you should be thinking about first and to the italians or yeah the second thing is that in this point you are absolutely right italy is forced to take control over its own borders many more or less alone why i give you an example from fishel agency of border protection in europe is based in washington and teaches four hundred four collaborators to protect the whole of. europe and has total budget of two hundred eighty one million which is one hundred of work germany alone spent a year for the refugees which is a disproportioned it cannot be upheld weir's known portion that yeah that's an understatement my friend that's an understatement ok amazing let me go to rouse

here i mean ralph if we could put put aside all the ideology and all the virtues signaling what so what some concrete things to do in the united states i think there should be built a wall then there won't be any children torn from their parents ok it won't happen what can you hear or do as a first step in your mind a practical step. but i own i don't progress for a moment i know how it is to live on that island surrounded by a wall and we don't want to see walls anymore but i understand that in the united states it's a different start and of course the wall that we have to keep people from stealing from dare not in a country so it's a bit different of course to compare those two was generally i think to be better as europe. commonly discuss how we can be. i live in countries where my friends have to leave their country because they feel not safe the second point is

the kind of course groups things in those countries fighting negotiating to do your in partnership agreements of africa i've spent a lot of time out of africa at the moment and we you know you see you know small route well if we're almost out of time but one thing the west could do is stop bombing those countries so these people won't flee ok that would be a first good practical step we've run out of time gentlemen many thanks to my guests and parents and we've got to end thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember crosstalk. you

know world a big partisan movie lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. when we all make this manufactured consensus instead of public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. when the final

merry go round lifts only the one percent. in the whole middle of the room signals. to leave the room for the real news is really. what politicians to do something. to put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. for some want to. have to try to be for us this is what the four three in the morning can't be good that. i'm interested always in the waters in the. city. became this national camera. roughly once they showed some movie you for them.

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america we call from the streets we've got to deal with why this is the reason i have to ride like this is the reason. the way to the united states is dangerous for most of the illegal immigrants. crossing their fingers to us but the little sympathy i want to make on most of enter and i've learned the lessons from this about what if many of them look for refuge in the so-called sentry sides of the drift used to share information about undocumented migrants with federal authorities i mean best person to ask than. listen to more you know i've ended up actually not that i'm in a lot of class and i want that. to happen and they have to watch as they are actually. to stay in the country with donald trump in the. book or pull the gravels . also if you could it be that the. struggles of many couples

won't. do with the push to political both of you out the popular old. twitters fake news mail the social networks accused of boosting december mation as it's revealed funds diverted from our t.v. ad revenue encourage false stories about so-called the russian box. also this hour washington gets a cold shoulder for imposing sanctions on middle east nations as iran says there will be no negotiations with the u.s. and turkey calls the move a stab in the back put together in nature and then you seek to stop your strategic partner in the back. and newly declassified cables reveal cia director gina haskell's past involvement in the agency's torture program giving gruesome details .

a very warm welcome to the program from the whole crew here at r t h q in moscow thanks for joining us this hour. twitter's fake news crusade seems to have backfired it's emerged that funds are verted from ad revenue earned from r t before we were banned from advertising on the site actually boosted the spread of false stories about suppose aggression bots and france went over the details earlier with my colleague. it all started with twitter as anti dissent from a sion campaign and that was where it funded research organizations to collect fake to collect information on fake news outlets and one of these in for one of these organizations was belgian ngo disinfo lab following when you police during the twenty sixteen u.s. campaign which involved the purchase of commercials by russia today in sputnik committed to redistribute the one point nine million dollars to organizations

fighting this information. received one hundred twenty five thousand dollars in january twentieth this info they received the phones back in january what i've been doing with a lot of they come up with sits well they formed a list of twitter users which who are writing a lot about what was called the but now a case and that was one french president macron his bodyguard was labeled a so-called rusa file now these users were also branded groups of files and some high profile people on the list didn't take too kindly to that hey stupid spook i'm not a russian but it's just me who tweets against you if you need to leave me to remember is that you're even dumber than you look so i number one four four five two. richest ration number one four eight zero two database censorship manipulation of information the secret service nice new world but then how did the story of a kremlin twitter plot against the money will appear which it did how did that come

about well the mainstream media took this to a whole new level there were people talking about a russian plot and even disinfo lab itself was surprised at this interpretation we did not modify the conclusions of our study a lot of media reported that we studied and identified that there had been russian meddling that the russian state orchestrated interference in the banal a scandal we never said this the fact that lumet is all the government spokes person immediately exploded this for political ends created this sort of hype that was never the object of our study but here's the kicker our team paid twitter one point nine million dollars for advertising and ironically after they blocked our team and sputnik from advertising on twitter part of that money was used to fund this disinfo lab research project and now this research is being used by the mainstream media to slander russia itself. iran's supreme leader has

rejected holding talks with the us following president trump's offer of a meeting to improve bilateral ties and they bluntly worded tweet ayatollah khomeini railed at u.s. officials comments about iran and for mentioning talk of war to which the ayatollah stated there will be neither war nor negotiations there have been months of increasing strains after the u.s. reimpose sanctions against the country those had been suspended as part of the two thousand and fifteen nuclear deal which the u.s. withdrew from in may now under the new us sanctions iran's barred from buying american dollars and also from trading metals including precious ones besides that it limits the overall flow of iranian currency and targets the country's auto industry had every imposing sanctions on iran trump threatened dire consequences only to backtrack days later offering an olive branch to iranian president rouhani never ever threaten the united states again or you will suffer consequences the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before we are no longer

a country that will stand for your demented words of violence and death be cautious so i believe in meeting i would certainly meet with a round if they want to meet i don't know that they're ready yet preconditions no they want to meet only anytime they want as well as iran they're similar anger from neighboring turkey this president described the new have to trade tariffs against a fellow nato ally is a breach of trust. you act on one side as a strategic partner but on the other you five bullets into the foot of your strategic partner together in nature and then you seek to stab your strategic partner in the back. the tariff slapped on turkey come in the wake of a dispute over the detention of an american pastor aluminum duties have been raised twenty percent while turkish steel is now subject to a fifty percent increase tariff it sent the turkish lira plummeting in value hitting a record low against the us dollar turkish stocks have tumbled as well we heard

from political experts in angara and tehran for their take on the u.s. penalties and i don't mean by literally but also in the context of nato and we have the cries of problem because if you were to increase the reaction is the very strong public in turkey is under. the do consider this. it gives the turkish national interest and it is considered as an economic war where the american money play to the economy the. crisis between america and turkey will have further consequences for the regional and global developments i think donald trump is playing with fire there when trump behaves like that towards towards turkey then obviously iranian leaders say that. talking to trump is useless when trump speaks about negotiating with the iranians the

iranians say well first. show that you are committed to a peaceful solution and show that you are prepared to abide by american commitments and then we can start thinking about the notion of negotiation one day. iran with. death and destruction and a few days later he speaks about. i'm conditional talks his secretary of state says one thing he says something else so he's reliable he's untrustworthy he's. and he's not someone that the iranians can deal with. new revelations have emerged on cia director gina housefull past involvement in the torture of terror suspects the files were released by the national security archive and date back to two thousand and two when housefull ran a secret cia detention center in thailand they describe torture sessions run by psychologists working as contractors for the cia techniques range from physical

abuse and psychological harassment to isolation in boxes the joes included who did confinement of machinery in the large box forced nudity adjusting his shackles and slamming him against the wall in. interrogators covered the subjects head with the hood and left him on the wall to. shaking and asking god to help him repeatedly. interrogators were going to get the truth out of the subject eventually. these are the details on the interrogation of an al qaeda terrorists captured in two thousand and two he spent four years in cia black sites including the one in thailand under do you know how schools watch he was subsequently transferred to guantanamo bay where he is now his case was highlighted back in two thousand and fourteen up by the senate intelligence committee the committee released a report saying interrogators had obtained no useful information from him on the

shiri however when questioned by the senate before taking office housefull insisted that intelligence gained from al qaeda suspects had proved vital the president has asserted that torture works do you agree with that statement. senator i i don't believe that torture works i believe as many people directors who have sat in this chair before me that valuable information was obtained from senior al qaeda operatives that allowed us to defend this country and prevent another attack former cia officer ray mcgovern says war crimes were perpetrated at that black site in thailand gina has to go but was not was playing fast and loose with the truth at her hearing and she was allowed to do that she was allowed to classify a derogatory information on herself before the hearing she supervise the torture to see the graphic senator tale don't run the in terry walling does nothing short of

banging someone's head into a wall in the water treatment that's waterboarding condemned by all manner of nations because it was practiced by the japanese during war two war crime and so to see this kind of thing revealed in gory detail clearly shows so you get from this is the fact that our system of law sometimes works and that is that the national security archive that did a freedom of information request for this got these details. donald trump has turned on a former aide on twitter after she revealed the tape which she claims is a recording of her being sacked omarosa manigault newman also accuse the president of having no clue about what was going on in the white house trump though says she was just a bad employee she begged me for a job tears in her eyes i said ok people in the white house hated her she was vicious but not smart i would really.