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ations that in march the russian federation violated international law on british soil the story has led to sanctions and some of the worst london moscow relations since the end of the churchill stalin roosevelt alliance joining me now is the russian federation's ambassador in london ambassador and xander yak of anchor the master thanks for coming on the show why did russia. now it's a case of killing since the press conferences you gave of the summer why did russia kill you case it is resorting to question is not correct we didn't kill anybody in the territory of the u.k. unfortunately the russian citizens and sergei's groupoid were poisons as it was reported by the british press and since that time we didn't receive any evidence. what happened there but the next day after the incident in seoul very the prime minister to resume immediately blamed russia for doing this five months passed since that time and we don't have any evidence and the british authorities are
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refusing to talk to us we cannot see. that's why the british are violating the international law the vienna convention and we're really disappointed with the policy of the united kingdom on that violation of the convention that you're alleging there the british government presumably think that their lives of the russian nationals would be put in danger if they had consular assistance know because you know we want to talk to them and understand whether the talking under the pressure or not and this is written in the vienna convention and the convention is signed by the united kingdom so they have two full few its international obligations ok it true that there's no. conclusive evidence the british ambassador to the u n karen pierce said your country has the means and the motive that seem to be critical and the foreign office say that when you when
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you when you speak against these an allegation you are engaging in denial distraction and disinformation. i think this is according misleading statement because for example i want to quote the president of czech republic who said that certain amount of so-called novi joke was produced in june. republic and if you read the german press you will find that most of the leps in europe capable of producing chemical weapons in the small quantities so basically the major argument of the british government that only russia is capable of producing this kind of poisons is. simply is not correct but you would obviously we have. here in britain because otherwise we wouldn't have it retested again it's true that's exactly what we're talking you know concerning in connection with the porton lab but they're denying that right but porton down in
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fairness to the laboratory said they're continuing to refuse to blame russia former foreign secretary strong tonight if you promise over that what about the amount of a drug that you have in russia because there's a deadline now the united states can impose even more sanctions if you missed this deadline on the o.p.c. w being allowed to come to moscow to investigate your chemical weapons program i stated officially to the foreign office and person to boris johnson that russia never produced movie choke and never developed a new joke and for the times it was in the soviet union you know it's in the soviet union but russia is the continuing state that's why we took all the big asians of the soviet union on us i mean international obligations and russia. eliminated all the chemical weapons in october last year after the all the procedures and by the way the united states the stupas as the chemical weapons and
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they are delaying and delaying the elimination of the chemical weapons now it looks like that they are planning to do this twenty twenty two maybe later you see britain is now saying our defense minister governor williamson says your response of regression if you're in the atlantic there's been significant increase in russian submarine activity the royal navy has had to respond to rational. ships approaching territorial waters that he three times twenty seventeen you're not frightened of our defense secretary when he says to you to shut up and go away well actually. i would suggest to compare the military budget of the u.k. and russia. under the figures you know on the report of the international is to go through the studies in london the budget the military budget the year of the united kingdom is fifty six billion dollars and the russian through budget is only forty six and who is aggressive what do you make then of when the british government says international leaders agree there is no plausible alternative
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explanation it is highly likely russia was responsible for this attack well we prefer you know to do with effect for example if somebody comes to the british court you know he has to present the case. in the in the situation with the souls very nothing was presented we look really now would be mostly would be leaks in the newspapers there are no official statements and there are no proofs and today the foreign office is not answering to our diplomatic notes with all the questions with almost sixty diplomatic notes still no answers so we don't have evidence and the british government is not ready to present anything to us and to the world community perhaps they aren't producing the evidence but according to have to say going to media reports media is a big part of this story extradition what did your embassy in london how did it
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react when on the front pages of britain's newspapers it talked about an extradition formally being made for russian suspects over the script well first of all we don't know what we're talking about because you know there were no official statements there were leaks in the press and they were talking about the two people allegedly suspicions. but we didn't get any official requests and. we will be here to cooperate with the british side but we want to see the evidence and we want to see the proofs and we want to see something that will support the british position you have had no extradition request formally from the british government from the russian national we don't know even the names whom there want whom they want to extradite well certainly no. leaks were admitted by the british press the press reports the sources say sources of course sources but nothing is basic sources like that well we had of course the pulitzer prize
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winning an expose of the my lai massacre seymour shown he said that people at the pentagon knew that this was nothing to do with the russian federation say. if it's not your government how do we know it's still not under the aegis of your government and it's the russian mafia the people who got rich in the is very simple first of all five months since the time of the accident in seoul's barry and we opened a criminal case in russia and we offered the corporation for the british to the british just to understand maybe together what happened there but. we cannot talk to these groups we cannot talk to the doctors we cannot talk to the people who are in so in soulsby i mean in general one way or another engage in the police appear ration and of course nobody is rated to talk to us in the porton down of course in
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this circumstance it's very difficult to understand what's going on here there are widely reported. stories by mainstream reporters who may be better connected than i am with the british secret services who say that surrogate a script would never want to come to russia because he was frightened of the russian state and now we hear the team may have contributed to the famous steel dossier which donald trump has been fighting against and it's been discredited you know anything about gay script was cooperating with the former may six agent via orbitz business intelligence which was. commissioned by fusion g.p.s. . i really have no idea because. no i'm following but since i mean since the fourth of march we counted almost a hundred different versions in the media what could happen what we know.
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that he was a double agent and he was sentence. for c. years for six years and he stayed in prison in the russian prison he was poured. and he decided to choose britain to leave so basically that that's the factual story and he became the british citizen but he didn't refuse from the russian citizenship because it could be done only on the good will so basically he's so-called he has the double citizenship so that was hugh's choice and this is where we are as far as the different stories in the media i'll tell you it's so difficult to follow because the british media very is very good on the on the different stories now ok with what would you expect the russian security operators to to monitor vaguely people that have. been given
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a defacto asylum i mean they said alexander litvinenko is no he doesn't he doesn't have any any problems with the russian law because you know he spent in prison for almost seventy years and then he left for britain you know why we should have any problems we have to say within the context of britain now considering spending three billion pounds on these new p.c. eight a war planes to fight russian submarine activity. how do how do you view these remarks then which get wide currency here in the british political establishment that well i'll tell you it's just. it's it's certain military strategy as i said fifty six billion dollars will be spent and we see the british airplanes you know in the black sea which is quite far from britain and from my point of view is the wrong policy or wrong military doctrine instead of
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developing relations britain is going to spend more and more money on so-called deterrence of russia so this is the wrong way of doing things were you surprised by . attempt unsuccessful attempt by the british government to get a u.n. resolution about the fact that the o.p.c. doubly should now find who committed chemical warfare. convention contraventions well first of all i want to see them oppose it. because we believe that it doesn't reflect the substance of the convention and it's not only russia it's almost half of the countries of the. signatories of the convention is it not fair to find out who committed a but lation of the chemical weapons it's a fair story but this is the prerogative of the un security council and it's the switching this. video from the un security council. this which to be or p c
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w it's wrong movement because this will undermine their d.v.d. over the very technical organisation which is supposed to call the samples you know to make certain conclusions but the political decision who is guilty is the prerogative of the un security council and we believe that the united kingdom like a permanent member of the security council should council should work in support of the un security activity not by undermining its activities i should just very briefly mention of course the allegations of collusion as regards our brics it referendum. any new allegations against your country that you are now and make you more aware of your continual defense as an ambassador for your interference in our breaks a different this is the favorite subject of the most newspapers and i just want to state this for the record that russia has nothing to do with the choice of the
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british people but i was always joking that. if you read the british press we're in a good company with boris johnson and as you had to go just stop you there more from russia's ambassador to london after the break as well as. abdel bari atwan on some stories making headlines around the world. i am. we have no idea what so if he's doing on vacation but she will be back on air in september.
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welcome back we're still with russia's ambassador to the u.k. alexander ambassador the. story of syria seems to have left the headlines in britain and britain not planning but not in the world. so they are not planning to bomb syria in the near future but it will be no second do more where britain lead to the international law with respect toward with respect to the statements that there were some kind of using that the syrian government use the chemical weapon and that's why britain together with the united states and france the duma and that wasn't supported by the or p c w and all the parishioner was staged by the white helmets and it was documented and the people who were part of
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this staging be made a press conference in hog which wasn't reported in the united kingdom but it was we'll report it in the world all right so all of the white helmet was on this program told me it is the russian warplanes that are killing civilians to resume says that britain is the second biggest humanitarian aid donor in syria of course some of that money going to the white helmets and of course the way helmets claimed continued russian atrocities throughout this i think this is a very misleading statement first of all it's very interesting that the white helmets only in the areas where the territory was held by the in the isis they never ought to retreat in the areas where there was a moderate opposition or the government forces so that's where the aid was needed to protect people from those as it was forces really from the north from least from his forces because you know in the left syria together we did you just wanted to see no one not to help the. in government they say they had a choice because they were afraid of reprisals by the syrian government is not true
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the the let's see the the jihadists you know lay down their weapons they're not afraid in the world hellman say afraid i think this is some kind of a contradiction in this well i understand that obviously your boss the foreign minister lavrov he was in turkey to discuss syria so there's going to be a summit evolving russia turkey germany france germany france ways britain in all of this big a donor i know you're alleging there's a good question for the new foreign secretary because the the the position of britain is a little bit different from the position of the world community so we want to bring all the refugees back to syria and stop the normal life in this country so what the british government is saying that first we should start the political process and then bring the refugees back to syria but the political process already started and
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that's exactly what we're doing in a some other place including the geneva so basically the british government a little bit late with its activity on bringing the refugee hine journey in for us of course by the way fronts but dissipated in the humanitarian operation together with us just a few weeks ago to bring you humanitarian aid to syria and they were when i asked my colleagues in the foreign office whether they are ready to join russia and france on this humanitarian. mission i didn't get their answer. well i mean i guess new reality is sorry about that well the u.s. certainly did come up to scratch in supporting britain over the script putting on harsher sanctions than britain without any evidence by the way when the minister consul was summoned to the state department and ask you know. could you support let's see you thesis was something tangible with some kind of evidence and they
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told us they can and support and they still does this is the matter of the national security. ok secret secret secrecy but we don't know whether he discussed with i mean was it britain or sanctions to and we don't know whether any of that was discussed between the trial tell you can you read you know something that you're hiding from the world i mean if you have something in the hands you have to prove it or you have to present it and almost five months we have all these conversations hundreds of leaks and nothing in their hands well given the relations between london and moscow are so poor we have to rely maybe on drum putin talks in brazil where we have to rely on international law. and war. trump are certainly overseeing this increase in sanctions. when it comes to turkey obviously british jets of launched bombing missions or into lake airbase what is russia as they say which made stream media here or american media playing at your four hundred missile
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defense is a terrifying to think tanks within a mile of this studio and monsieur to one no saying this is i mean we have medvedev the russian prime minister saying this economic war coming from the sanctions which you heard about in turkey saying we may start looking for a new friends and allies and a lot of horror here about a poll in the past twelve months seventy percent of turkish citizens favorable to political economic and security alliances with russia are you actively trying to turn turkey from being a stable good nato ally of britain's into a course in order of course not first of all turkey is. in the fighting of the terrorists in syria and i think they took you made a great contribution you know just to eliminate the judges from syria ninety six percent of the territory is free today this is first as far as the. systems see four hundred they're simply better than the american system and one
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ought to choose the best. the way. well i'm just telling you it. just so you will see that but of course britain is a contributor to the bank it gave fifty million dollars which may right raise some eyebrows because i think you can buy talking about the agent being yeah the bricks . system as it were that is emerging a country like turkey it's going to go to washington still rather than brics bank be china because it's china and russia the debate in the newspapers is a big. scary enemy to two western edge of morning. do you think or do you think bricks in a i really have a chance in the short term of being a force in this world well i was always against the politicizing the economic relations unfortunately this is the facts of the fact of today but speaking about
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the financial capabilities of the brics countries it's more than half of the world and of course the economy of chinese bigger now than the economy of the united states if we're talking about in the purchasing power and by the way you know that most of the. projects that were. launched by russia in the european bank for reconstruction and developing which is in london most of them i mean all of them were stopped and going from london and it's moving from london and so all these projects moved to the brics bank so basically we want to finance our activity now in the asia not in europe so this is just the fact of life and this choice was it was for everybody and any country could deploy we're now supplying you know with the money f. rekha asia some other countries so why because these bank is not politicized i must
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thank you. now to go through some of the papers. bill berry out of an editor in chief of rye aluminum thanks so much abdel for being in a season finale show no time to talk about some era i mean the greatest gyptian intellectual of us today on sunday let's go straight to this tweet which has dominated the news coverage in this country arguably the legal but he thought by german corben on the graves of the terrorist who perpetrated the munich massacre and his comparison of israel to the nazi deserves unequivocal can diminish in the from everyone it is outrageous to be honest i was there when yasser arafat hit kocher in tunisia was bombed by the israelis and many people were massacred because of this to eat and jail because been was there. just to
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commemorate those martyrs killed by the israelis so they were not terrorists so why all these campaign against him we should actually condemned their aid itself the people that this israeli leadership which sent the walk to the war please don't try to assassinate arafat who just left beirut according to the international agreement and who was you know stayed in tunisia he was in a hotel by the beach and that israeli warplanes bombed him and killed those people so why the diversion from that story which is there is a massacre of other fat people in that part of the world this is this is the this is the question where major media journals obviously try to conflated with a completely separate incident involving the munich olympics now a car crash will arguably have taken some of the shine of this story let's go to our next story which which was going on while this corbin business was bubbling in the newspapers this from a strong incorporation yemen bear is children killed by strike insist that
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legitimate in the beginning they said it was legitimate and it was according to the international look fifty children were massacred by this read by the saudi if sixteen warplanes that's that's that's it's outrageous you know those most of them under the age of fourteen and they were in a school trip we did the interview on this and obviously the saudi press agency sources were telling us that using human shields and this was before they announced the probe human shield the no comment from the prime minister is ok of course britain but him achieve the bus school bus taking those people to work you know the to celebrate the summer holiday and also surprise. surprise tourism is made no comment given the britain is of course saudi arabia well you know it should be a shame to be honest you know to send arms to severely been ordered to be used. to kill children in one of the poorest country in the world so i think this how they
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are shooting himself in the foot or oil that's going to the next story from the murdoch was street journal journal which is echoing across the city of london because of huge a fund and now nato itself need to should give turkey the boot and car helped by china and russia and vandalizing interests after i'm surprised actually you note. i'm shocked techie a member of nato. since nineteen fifty two and the gave a lot of service to need to you know turkey participated in actually putting the foundation stone of need to nine hundred fifty two and it was criticised by many people in the middle east as a muslim country to parts of the need to to it and. there he suffered a lot because of this membership now when turkey actually wanted the nato to stand
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by them when they should down israeli war russian warplane they said no it's not our business you know you have to deal with it and they never intervene so this is the problem so turkey was extremely i mean the president. was very bitter of this but now turkey is suffering because of the war the economy war against their currency their leader they want actually to destroy the. exit of a dog which is that economy growth now he is the trouble with the city of helping turkey as a member of the need to you know there are work trying to keep the out to put it out completely from me to is this actually a need to which you can't rely on are those of our allies which you can actually rely on and if you think they will come to help you when you are in trouble they are trying to seek you not actually to help you and that's that's that's extremely
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bad saying in the region there's going to mainstream could be back to agency door because there was talk about the joining me to a world where they have a look at the what about the who is the prime minister of iraq about the iraq will continue to do business with iran but not in u.s. dollars when he was the first. to say that we will actually stop all kind of business with iran you know export equal to six billion dollar of goods to market every year half of the electricity of iraq is coming from iran iran actually sided by the by iraq to defeat islamic state. and kick it out from mosul and other now it's bag and drop sanctions now you know he is or no it isn't i don't know this one is they said you know in the beginning he said he will respect the sanctions and he will stop business with iran and win the emmy and he's
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supposed to visit when there is have you are not will come we don't want to have to come you'll betrayed us you betrayed your people so now he changed his point of view saying that ok we will continue business week we'll continue to read with but i believe he is completely finished and if we hit him he was a struggling tool for the second term i believe he lost as his chances completely and he actually you know made many people upset in and the whole region not only in iraq and they had a very alan thank you. that's over the show the last show of the season will be replaying your favorite shows and this is from saturday beginning with award winning journalist and filmmaker john pilger keep in touch with us about social media season.
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