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thing about a crime. age in haiti is eighteen for maturity so although the media waltzes wants to make these under-age children prostitutes who really is the whore here who really is the criminal here so haitian parliament has learned that the majority of abuse cases don't get reported oxfam actually has been reporting requirements in place their stats are transparent other agencies don't have those requirements so do you have any information about their transgressions you know i head the free haiti movement which i founded in two thousand and four when the united nations lindt its uniforms to this occupation. where it's discriminatory in front is covering up the corporate plunder of haiti's riches i had something called the haitian lawyers leadership network which i founded in one nine hundred ninety four twenty four years ago and the purpose was
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to institutionalize the rule of law and to protect and defend the cultural human economic rights of haitians living at home you know broad now the question you're asking me is. is there reporting requirement with regards to the n.g.o.s and what they're doing in haiti the ngos do whatever they want in haiti remember there's a level of racism and a level of when you're under occupation and these n.g.o.s come in they're making so much more money than let's say a haitian lawyer in haiti a native haitian lawyer in haiti who is going to fight on behalf of let's say the victims. so you're talking about a disparity of power you're talking about this idea that these these white folks like oxfam's director who was who was. fired and the other i think they fired oxfam fired three executive and another for.
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me they let them resigned they let three resign and then they fired for gross misconduct three so but they never reported to the haitian government that says it's a crime to to have sex with minors they never reported that so they concealed it and they continued to conceal what was going on up until now eight years later we hear about it. when take a short break right now and when we're back we'll continue talking to. human rights lawyer discussing the humanitarian missions in haiti and the avs where they have been causing stay with us.
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the way to the united states is dangerous for most of the illegal immigrants. crossing the most. simple they want to become lost and i want to ask some just about what if many of them look for refuge in the so-called sentry sides of the drug used to share information about undocumented migrants with federal authorities the best person to ask banker mom. was you know no avail that person i get i'm in a lot less and the more that. they can watch as they all choose to stay in the country with donald trump in the white house all over for the cobbles. both of you the who can be bribed to do the job of the old said sit struggles of many couples won't. kill with trumped up what's the political sparkles both of you up of
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a few of the folks of the. same wrong but all roles just don't call. me old yet to shape our disdain comes to educate and in detroit equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. it's a very rough terrain of sorts rough climates and you have to win fights to be able to defend. it was gunshots on top of them and so very fresh to what happened in the morning and i've been in not. having will back up.
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you know i don't want to see a bit of what is in the true and is ready to participate in the good. old to new good will be different from if. you don't think about this if this old goes on no you got through it's like and you know the another patient. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer and it's meaningless in the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict respond innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying the is just no way to present and then we're even many of the times families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the
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death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't their way. in the. system. and we're back with the israeli don't owe. haitian human rights lawyer were discussing the controversy around eight missions in haiti so now the haitian president after an investigation is calling the ox them affair the tip of the iceberg but on the other hand count the haitian government really afford to poke into other aid groups besides oxfam president mention investigated mid-south some
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from chaff and other n.g.o.s what if more organizations are suspended can they manage without them can haiti do without n.g.o.s altogether you know i want your audience to hear me when i say this you can't develop a country which charity you cannot. the charities are there in haiti to assist with the symptoms of the problem not the root of the problem of haiti and that's symptoms like when you have no clean water no health care no infrastructure those are all symptoms of a greater problem in haiti and that greater problem is imperialism that greater problem is debt dependency and domination that haiti has had to deal with sense it became the first. free republic ruled by black people since eighteen zero four so we've had to deal with this. imperialism that comes in and takes out
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haiti's resources so here is the answer the answer for your audience to understand is not charity it's not these n.g.o.s it's not oxfam you can't you take someone's agency away when you bring in foreigners and you have those foreigners give you public services like. clean water like health care they're not accountable that's why you have the problem of oxfam that's why you have the larger problem of the u.n. troops and their sex rings and and their cholera has gotten to haiti and all of the travesties that we've had to suffer directly since two thousand and four when the un came in and they came in the u.n. came in after the united nations just made the united states france and canada and the western powers out through or we bush regime change in two thousand and four
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the democratically elected president of haiti which i used to represent so we're talking about the you win and the charitable workers who come in to cover that this is an occupation because if it was acknowledged openly that this is a humanitarian front to occupation then the public of these various nations would oppose it but if you say haiti needs charity and look at these haitians and all their problems and you say these things all the time this is what they say about haiti we are the poor some trial where his guys am out i don't understand it's not like they're there by force right someone certainly inviting them why can't you just be like we don't need you by what is a problem. as i said the un came in in two thousand and four after the united
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nations has made the united states france and canada in their deep state cia agents helped take down the democratically elected president what we have in haiti right now is an occupation a military occupation with the un serving as proxy military are you saying your government is in conspiracy with the united nations because no organization including that salute including the united nations can be on a territory of a country without a consensus of the government of that country after the earthquake we had bill and hillary clinton essentially take over haiti and take over that aid to haiti they were i do think there was no interest in haiti what what why such interest on behalf of the clintons and your country why i am so happy us cked because haiti lies between two nations that do united states want to become client states that they dislike that has not fall it into
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a line with manifest destiny and the one road doctrine and so on that's cuba and venezuela we are right in between we are that weakest link in their horseshoe also so so they unite this is what we say at the haitian lawyers leadership which i lead we say that the moon i did nation forces in haiti are the africa calm of the western hemisphere they are the u.s. western military army training latin american instrumental american soldiers. for on behalf of the western powers and they use haiti as a training ground that's number one number two. haiti has massive oil the head of venezuelans oil is in haiti's waters number in terms of riches haiti has they say now twenty billion in gold haitian geologist says it's one hundred billion in gold
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doing the earthquake. bill and hillary clinton put in through fake elections and you can see this just google it michel martelly who is a former carnival singer if you look at the e-mails from the hillary and bill clinton they show you that they created this this fake election and now in two thousand and sixteen we have just made two thousand and seventeen we have this new president job mel movies job no more yes was handpicked by michel martelly who was put into office by bill and hillary clinton under the obama administration and now the aid groups and you and agencies they always stress that they're doing a lot of good they do outstrip the bat that happens but good rarely makes for a hard news story that always goes unnoticed so all the good work they could be
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doing because i'm sure they are doing something good emergency aid medication shelter supplies etc will that always be outweighed by the bad behavior by the by the scandals by the overall problem of the occupation that you're you're talking about yes ok so so no matter what they do even if sometimes they're really actually reaching out to housing people and that that is also an undeniable fact. well as i said before sophie no matter how how well intentioned some of these n.g.o.s are and some of them some of the charitable industrial complex folks. are not predators no matter what their intentions are we're talking about an occupation we're talking about imperialism we talk about the people of haiti being disenfranchised by fake elections run by the un right now on behalf of the united nations me of the united states and it's and it's and it's you know european allies but i just want to ask you about the
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technicality does the humanitarian aid that they bring in to your country actually reach people on the ground those who really need it do they get it i think the figures were. thirteen point three billion dollars that was raised after the earthquake. and i think they said that less than one percent of that went to the haitian government most of that money went back to the donors to their hands most of it stayed in the donor hands to to to to what to bring employment to their people to make money off of it is that what you're saying to bring employment to people like the world lim hamann whatever his name is yeah head of the oxfam person yeah are you going to by the way as to why you already ait's i think you know that foreign foreign aid cripples most african nations
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i think you already know that the stis district say that the world bank puts out a lot alone but the corporate plunder. is greater than the aid they ever a give to the black nations or to the global self i want to be able those if i actually spoke to afghanistan's former president and he thinks the same way to you he feels like the foreign aid in the long run is ruining his country because it never comes with no strings attached. so you know this rapper i'm sure you know because he ran for your countries present. his charities reported to have spent twenty five percent of money donated on expenses like travel conferences accommodation salaries how can people who want to help donate be sure that their money goes where it has to because you don't necessarily need to be a part of u.n. or i'm it's also important yeah or other n.g.o.s who want to help write there are
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a lot of philanthropist who want to help you know you're sitting in your house you are sure there's an earthquake you want to donate money how do you make sure that it gets where it has to be very well you see i'm still thinking that we're having the wrong conversation here charity cannot develop a nation it can't give it infrastructure health care it can only allow for dependency and you mentioned one charity which which is why clip shot. you know i could show is like a tiny little bit of so small compared to the clinton global initiative. and the big n.g.o.s and what they're doing in haiti the red cross the red cross raised half a billion dollars in haiti after the earthquake and only built seven homes and left no infrastructure and we need. clean water just
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basically water they could have given us with that thirteen point three billion dollars that was raised because the u.n. in two thousand and ten as you know brought us cholera which has killed over ten thousand haitians and made sick more than they say a million i say three million haitians so we don't even have clean water so what do these forty two thousand n.g.o.s have to show except the fact that they are used as a smokescreen i was immediately ferrying to it you know right now i was just talking about people who want to help do i understand you correctly that your message to my odeon says that anyone who is watching t.v. and there are calls to help haiti they shouldn't. is that what you're saying haiti yes what i'm saying is if you hate haiti cannot be developed by charity if if anyone wants to help haiti you need to help us get rid of the u.s.
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occupation hidden by u.n. mercenary guns fake aid fake election fake charity that's what we want as haitians and for instance after the earthquake we started my organization the network because we were not getting help because the people were being given dirty water by the n.g.o.s we started a program. which gives clean water it's a very tiny project but it is a haiti led haiti one and a transfer of skills to haitian without a middleman those a type of projects that people who are interested in helping haiti can do assist and ended digit is haiti led haiti capacity building organization now an organization that's built that's that's building up the capacity of the ngos all right it was really interesting insights to hear from you as really actually thanks
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for this interview i have never heard someone speak so passionately about the country and speak the way you speak about the country i wish you all the bass in your future endeavors as a leader until we were talking to you the haitian human rights lawyer about the u.n. and other groups humanitarian efforts in haiti and why they have drawn so much criticism that's it for this edition of sophie and co i will see you next time. thank you.
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