it's a square area twenty two mobs so it's very different for me where i live in terms of multiculturalism which is much more about monocultures who live in ghettos and showed it's a very different definition to the one that you might understand i actually want to discuss that but before we do that many of the three that you have posted have these hash tag putin brock's three yes which i find very ironic because here in russia you wouldn't be allowed by law to say or publish many things that you say about the muslims in particular because in this society we do prioritize social cohesion over the freedom of speech and that has been like that over many years i would even argue centuries and i think it only intensified under putin do you still think your rocks. and rocks in many ways mostly sounds contrary to most of your ideas i mean he he would be absolutely appalled by many of the things you're saying about spine as well i think you started out by saying you know do we live in a society where we can disagree but still sit in the same room i don't mind if

putin thinks many of my ideas of morally applauded that's absolutely his right to have his views i hold my views very clearly and very early for me i come from a country where there is an islamic takeover going on i come from a country where my dual to our daughters are targeted by islamic jihad this and that's not i'm not free to say any of the things i was very wrong i mean i understand why baguley wrote to me because for too long the west has painted him as a monster and i don't think it's acceptable any longer should he be back in the g. eight absolutely does he need to have sanctions against him no i don't i don't have a problem with putin in the way that other people seem to or maybe you have well i don't know if you follow statements but just last week he spoke again about the need to relax immigration rules and russia he specifically pointed out that you know people of all religious and ethnic backgrounds. should be welcomed especially

if they have some connection to russia or the so-called russian world hugh says to be far more bullish on the me gratian particularly muslim immigration than. may's government does i don't. know if you could down on you know if you could sort of cow submission to religion more than we have we have defacto sharia law in the u.k. right now we prevented a journalist from coming into our country on the basis of future hate speech as yeah unsaid that is a bizarre situation to live in so i think we have it much worse in this country also has a very peculiar understanding of the. bring back to the muslim immigration or any immigration for that matter. i think the difference is how our society is handling it. in this country it would not be considered advisable to put people in high density neighborhoods they would be agreed. not only required to integrate but

the state would actually facilitate that i don't know on that you and i completely agree you know i've seen multiple examples in the no go zones that i've visited across europe where migrants are all packed away into the suburbs never works it creates a situation where there's them and us if you go to sweden if you go to belgium if you go to parts of london those parts of london sweden belgium you can't walk anymore if you're a western woman and you have your hair uncovered you'll be spotted at and called white trash that's never going to work and if you have a system here where you are able to integrate of course that's going to work much better but we don't have multiculturalism is what i was explaining to you we have a system of monocultures living in ghettos that's very different thing now much of russia's immigration comes from the so called stance kazakstan to. stand and you're a famous or infamous for referring to london as london which you have to agree carries some pejorative connotation and majority vote. yes well it sounds. the

reason i called london last little of the star is because to me it's completely fallen to the control of the muslim air can he is spectacularly useless at his job under city can there are some statistics that i'm sure neither you nor i could argue about in the sense that our murder rate is now higher than new york in the sense that our staff rate is just going up by twenty five percent in the number of acid attacks that are happening sixty moped attacks a day with hammers and machetes that's life in london is stan under the muslim and what i see from that is the lack of control a lack of law and order and a political islam religion and politics are integrated and people vote according to their faith and that is not democracy for what you describe it in to have to be free of the. whole regime and your situation policies and yet the way

you express it is pejorative and then much broader sense because stance stands mean countries now on cities why because london is a country that a christian ideally why is that it is pejorative yes i'm making their faith and the you are mocking other countries rather than the u.k. authorities who are are not really valuable mocking the muslim man and the country that he's built there where eighty nine ninety five percent of some areas of i think about tower hamlets knew him eighty ninety percent muslim population that does not reflect multiculturalism that is not a multicultural country or city and when he speaks he speaks only for london and yet he appears to speak for the u.k. of someone like myself who comes from a place called the rest of the u.k. it's intensely frustrating but. i think you do understand that when you referred to londonistan people may draw conclusions about. without hearing your argument

first because i think this point that you were making about important monoculture is yet to exist in isolation this is a very valued value under discussed point in my. it's a real sociological issue that has to be studied and yes that's that issue seems to be brushed under the table because people take a fancy to you don't you think that this style of your presentation undermines the very valid argument you're making not for mine money because you know there is a part from the kind of social study of monocultures that i think is so imperative and that's why i've done the work i've done in sweden insistently in all of the no go zones that i visit i do actually want city come to be out i want him out of office i want to champion getting even referring to london and i think we spend far too much time to toeing around issues these days i think it's one of the reasons i think your line of questioning is good because you come straight to the

point and it's very much the star that i use with my commentary specially if you use a format like twitter you haven't got forty five minutes to check around the subject you've got a few words to make the result you expect i would never compare anyone to cockroaches i think you can find a more. expressive metaphor i mean i know there is this whole controversy about the i think it was very fair i think i think you're undermining the column which still stands today twenty fourteen if you bring it up i'm going to talk about it twenty fourteen i wrote a column that compared migrants across the med to cope with it to give it reference cockroaches i said they're like cockroaches because they haven't in june they seemed to be able to survive no matter what we were taught in schools the only creature that nuclear holocaust is cockroaches that still applies today still the question is are you hearing about the right you know it's a more it's rather than the issue you were trying to raise as we stop the boats know this now. nine hundred thirty two my reaction is well i'm going where that

using cockroach was a nice way i mean i mean while you are right which is where me resilience fish al gore well you could compare them to wayne letter on my question elz and miles that would be a bizarre way of writing copy and very poor english but let me ask you a question the aquarius with i think it's six hundred thirty two it could be nine hundred thirty two i apologize for not knowing let's say six hundred thirty two migrants on board it has nowhere to dock it's really just said no we won't have you tell me what would you do about that if you broke it you own it it was in part western and primarily u.k. policy that created the mass and we pay it and if you created that mess in those neighborhoods you should expect certain representations for yourself to someone you know. which court was really won't. you guys have to chip in as well. but that's no solution so why is it why is it not solution just i guess a kind of foreign country or to send a special forces there to brown hold

a live there and then refuse to accept them we shouldn't be rolling ferryboats across the med that said no you know you were in congo and sleety and what you're trying to tell me is that causes don't have consequences here simply trying to wish them away and i don't think that's a commonsense solutions serialize i think your overlooking this idea that people say they're running from something they're fleeing something in my opinion and it seems surprising to me i would think as a moment suggest uprising to you why is it these young men of fighting age are running away but if it's that terrifying why do they have you know women have and children i've been on the coast of southern italy trying to get those and i can tell you did they i did they leave their women and children behind if it's so terrified of that look at lots of my question well because of first of all many of them are not married that most of the people who migrate into europe so just the young men come here as it's so scary libya they leave the women behind really yes or they manage to bring their mobile phone really yes they were really yes because it's. we completely disagree well we certainly disagree on that but don't you think

that i mean i understand your point of it on immigration but don't you think that by arguing this line of argument you're also absolving your own government of its responsibilities because it didn't contribute to the mass and you recognize that and the argument on syria for example you don't know this is the way the usa government policies and this illusion is not to bring people on ferryboats run to buy run but you aren't seeing some of the men is the solution to their country solution just as in syria and other migrant camps we've suggested facilitating in country solutions because of course you don't want to go down the money for the happy even you came here in about allocating money where that did give additional monies i don't know the ins well it's not enough to avoid bills that the n.g.o.s are setting not to bring those people to our countries and i think the boat like the aquarius and n.g.o.s that are running the ferry service i think it's utterly irresponsible and all that it does is encourages more people to come and potentially lose their lives on the meds and that seems to be the opposite of what

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welcome back to worlds apart with katie hopkins british journalist and media personality katie just before the break we were talking about multiculturalism and i want to repeat the point that you made earlier that you believe that the u.k. hasn't been able to achieve with what you have as you know ghettos of individual cultures times rather than you know true diversity be into the mixing of various cultures. and yet you also wrote in your book and you made that point over and over again many of your interviews that you wouldn't let your kid play with anyone who isn't called. nigel don't let alone one hundred fifty isn't that the very attitude that terrorists cultural gathering. this was less of a cultural thing in the sense of different ethnic backgrounds this is my experience from going to a state school in the u.k. and you could tell i had this kind of idea as a mom during the school run you could tell what a kid would be like by its name and i still stand by that so names that i hear

tyler it'll be destiny that all of these kind of names you know no mention of any mohammad well mohammed if you think about it in the u.k. and it's shocking to me the number one name in the u.k. is muhammad the number two name in the u.k. so much. and i find that from a demographic perspective it's very frightening that actually by twenty fifty they'll be more muslim in the u.k. than there will be a british person i find that actually quite distressing you know i have a kid who is born into a muslim father he's four years old called moment he his name is different it don't know how many it is a muslim name but is it a homage it is not one hundred but it is a muslim name i wonder well i mean i would have called him mohammad there but that everyone is called mohammed so how do you know who's your mom. i think in the rush i would have left her problem finding mohammad you a question if you have a muslim house but first let me ask your question would you ban your kids from

playing with my cat because he has. as long as he had i mean it wasn't really done on names alone i could tell what a kid would be like with their names but it was about the fact that they were maybe would turn up to school without a home what they turn up without the right uniform they don't have the mamas that i prefer for my children and i am. muslim families are not as. it was never about muslim families it was about the types of families that i met. school playground and the types of moms i was a particular keen on whatever we say we all know the mums that we like and the mums that we don't like i was just really honest about it but regardless of whether you were referring to a british kid or a muslim care isn't that a fundamentally anti-christian thing to say because you know you talk i don't know how many things in my life i am not too good. for the christian religion and i think that a lot about christian values and a painting there you know i'm just criticising my size because like if you see any of the stuff that i've done i mean i think many christians would want to distance

themselves from me entirely but what i noticed about people with strong beliefs particularly here in st petersburg you know it's a joy to be surrounded by so many christian churches by the also docs people that believe so strongly ninety percent of people here and you know that i that's key thing i've finished the second thing i really think about the christian faith and what people in south africa are being persecuted is there's a real belief in god in the land and people need something to believe in and i really respect that even though i'm a bad for christianity let me correct you a little bit because going to try creates that this is one of the most atheist you know about that so you want well i'm very christian feeling city well let me ask me why do we want the irish or the beholder but if you actually pull people out here is that your question so you have a muslim husband right yeah let me ask you a question. for him a profit islam is so fantastic why did muslims always flee to christian countries i want to hear why because christian countries or western countries to be

more precise tend to send troops to their countries destroy their falls down economy them out of their neighborhoods that's why because why come to christian countries why not go to saudi or another muslim country well because saudi does saudi arabia actively prevent. that muslim neighbors from going there and are they even who doesn't over the years. why he decided to prevent migrants going look i'm not an ambassador for the for the saudi government but i was very very wise i give a shit america it is a repressive governments that because christians are free and tolerant and open and this is not the very thing that muslims try and change when they arrive in our country that's my question in my challenge in the u.k. when you when you say that i don't have an answer i don't see all around or when when you actually open tolerant welcoming and they'd like people to practice religion and then they try and take over and here you actually we and publicly advocate for the rejection for the shining of children for the ostracizing and of

children based on then me yes and you called a tolerant and open door i'm not saying i've said a million times i'm not a great ambassador for being christian but i'm asking you why do muslims always seem to come to christian countries and then want to take over what i thought they're actually trying to ask her because so many western countries wage wars on muslim goes out that why not go to saudi why not go to another country where it's when you know how little you know those problems in the home when you have a kid on your hands and you try to find any refuge literally you would go across the back mediterranean even if you don't know how to swim you would do anything possible for you. and your although we don't see any women and children on the boat we deceived even though i would agree that the primarily sixteen and twenty something on the eleven children we don't see many women and children i promise you . i have reported extensively from the ground both and we've been serious and believe me i also i think you could afford me some credibility and there are i'm

not where they'll show the children in desperate conditions but it is more difficult for them to move around that's for sure now. i want you long enough to conclude that there are some issues that are very close to your heart that i think you believe in passionately and yet there are those things that you seem to be if they're out there out there for controversy just simply propel your argument can you yourself tell one from the other i think it's trite to imagine that i say things just to be controversial and you would not withstand the level of attacks of police harassment of detention of having my passport taken of social services being called on my children of my family being under threat of having to jihad these plot to behead me in nov twenty seventh i don't believe you would withstand those levels of people trial trying to silence you if you didn't believe what you set amount may convince you or not i'm not seeking to i'm only trying to give people an

understanding of what it's like to try and speak freely and openly with my views which are known for being very strong so you would have to really question yourself why would i do this if i didn't really believe what i say and i believe my country to be better i believe in donald trump but i believe japan russia and america are going to be the three leaders that fight back against the globalist so that's my kind of part of my fuse yes of the putin here as well you mentioned the silencing of dissenting view yeah i totally hear your i personally have been looked into by a couple of times but i would at least agree with you that there is a political censorship pro-labor all political censorship going on in a number of western countries but when i hear certain views again and postulating that children could be mistreated because of that names that's that's that's not that is not a fair summary of what i've said i don't know that it's not

a fair summary of what i said i said i would invite certain children to my house if you know it's not me. i don't know when you are feeling rejected if ill rejected is a pretty painful for a child i can tell you from my own experience i'm pretty sure you had that experience yourself in your life so when you say that certain children are not to be engaged families are to be looked down to and you know healing that point. there's plenty of other arguments we could have apart from the child children's names anyway when you raise an issue like that some people may indeed support the argument for a certain degree of censorship don't you think that by laying out something as controversial as we just discussed you actually provide a motive i just i think it is really i mean it's really a new political arena really fast and i think the reason i have so much support the reason i have a close to a million followers on twitter the reason the articles i put on most read and most

viewed is because people identify with the things i'm saying because what we no longer have in the society of people that will tell the truth to power and i'm not a tool front of that i'm not at all frightened of saying we need my country back we should not be bound down to people who try to see if there is no different those things really are a difference about between criticizing your government on irresponsible migration policy or size aren't talking about children oh i don't know there is just not in discussing this not is on they are instead to serve to be parents that they aren't good enough parents also but how it be true you are just taking offense on behalf of other people many people agree with me and disagree with you that's also ok we can be relaxed about it and but i don't understand why do you have to because you're only ever seriously very passionate why do you have to mix your various i don't want it in my mouth i'm a wife i'm a pretty poor christian i'm a traveler i'm an anti immigrant kind of personality i believe in politics i'm many

things i'm not just the kind of person that sits in front a camera a big part of who. am is a mom and the moms who don't really deserve to be moms because they don't bring their children up properly since our time is running out i do want to ask you one more question about censorship i know that you are very concerned about the tommy robinson case a very swift sentencing and jailing of a person for their reporting on a politically sensitive case in defiance of a court order and a majority pakistani muslim. from what i know of the british system has a long tradition of legal precedents do you fear that you yourself with the views that you hold may find yourself in a similar legal situation i imagine are probably on top of the list now for being imprisoned for my views and what concerns me about tom ronson not people say well he was contempt of court he shouldn't be reporting now i understand all that i

think the two key questions are or where was the swift justice for the majority pakistani muslim paedophile gangs when tommy robinson was sentence in five hours to thirteen months and secondly i see it very much you have the scriptural case here or there was an alleged to have poisoned individuals on u.k. soil i don't see any difference between this cripple case with putin and what our government has done to tommy rope and they put him in prison he will not survive in prison one guard let the muslim gangs into his cell he's done so i think the british government is no better than putin in any regard because it silences political people that it doesn't like to hear just in the same way that it's alleged that putin did it so we are no better than russia if you are concerned that you may be next is that going to change the way you know not at all your authority if i am imprisoned for my views then it seems to me it's not the truth teller that

will be in the wrong it will be the also rootie and i would hope that there. will be a new legion of of the outspoken individuals like myself that will come and fill my shoes and i will write a new book i guess the truth behind bars well it's been a pleasure talking to you thank you very much for your time and i think you encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and for me hope to see you again same place same time here and also part of. our.

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have no idea what safe is doing on vacation but she will be back on air in september. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer an it be in the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying the is just no way to parent and that we're even many victims' families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families want to that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite you know we've been through

this this isn't the way. the russian embassy in the u.s. that phase maria bhutto know who was jailed on charges of being and then registered foreign agents is being subjected to conditions there are tons amounts of torture we speak to her lawyer. whole situation particularly for someone like her someone who i don't think ever envisioned spending a day in jail or a wife to be in jail what's a pretty tough facility. the standoff between the u.s. and turkey escalates with ankara saying relations have almost ceased to exist. and other stories that shaped the week one of the city's worst hit by the conflict in syria aleppo is undergoing extensive reconstruction after years of war.