can you work cannot do another acceptable ideas are today supposed to be given voice on the streets of the eternal city but italy which will be the third largest economy in the e.u. after breck's it has long been targeted for not being in line with washington in one thousand nine hundred the e.u. parliament debated nature collaboration with armed groups to define democracy as former f.b.i. consultant paul williams told sean stone's son a film director all over about operation gladio one r.t. is watching the hawks during larry or one the years of lead in italy when there were these horrific bombings even the lone you bombing posited from time they were all done by really to stay behind units a gladder your units spurred on by the cia well a destabilization of italy is open to debate no one need to bait how a particular italian american actor is destabilize the arguable propaganda arm of the us military industrial complex hollywood her name is rose mcgowan and she's

been in the news for bringing down powerful men like harvey weinstein currently on bail after being indicted by a grand jury for sex crimes that he denies roses appeared in scores of t.v. and feature films a directorial debut dorn was nominated for the grand jury prize at sundance i just work is brave tracing her journey from the children of god cult in southern italy to becoming a movie star she joins me now rose welcome to going underground so why do you think many people believe this part autobiography part manifesto about hollywood of the journey towards hollywood as well as only what is so rare. i think it's so rare because people don't talk back to hollywood people don't break rank and they don't tell secrets even though this is definitely not a tell all and like i say it's a tell it how it is people don't really do that or is that because of the powerful interests stopping anyone from hiding the what's beneath it i think it is the powerful interest i think it's just because it's house. been done you know how we

call things you know the best poirot for the job we have the same names we have the same schedule that they did from when they started hollywood don't deviate it just stays the same because these are the unwritten rules but you know i don't really believe in unwritten rules i don't i don't see the point and i i don't see the point in not saying it like it is probably intimations of the horror and you name check one very famous. francis former. record so i mean apart from the regular lecture sure there is actually used later in the in the narrative what's the importance of friends for francis farmer was a classic hollywood actress and she did very few films she was doing very well and the hollywood powers that be wanted her to continue being famous she did not want to be she didn't want to be an actress she didn't want that life for herself and. the studio head in collusion with her mother had her kidnapped and given

electroshock therapy to force her to want to be famous and instead as i say in the book it left her just a husk of a woman and that is kind of i wrote that because it's kind of the message you get as a woman there just. they would love to be able to do that to me i'm sure of it if it's just don't get out of line little girl don't get out of line really i want schork was it you explain this quite funny actually so it. was the united states we knew given that you left the cold in italy and you arrived in the united states which was america truly was i don't know that i've ever gotten over being shocked when america i tell you the truth on a daily basis it's quite shocking. it is incredibly beautiful land but it was very traumatic and i did have a big quibble with orange cheese and not understand it having never seen it before in into me it was just a perfect metaphor for. i mean imagine going to the food there in the eighty's in

america it was going from italian food in tuscany to that was just everything was different was loud it was it was it was everything you think you cried over the denny's getting i cried over eating spaghetti a fast food restaurant i thought this is it i'm stuck when it comes to the classism we're dealing with and that's the word to use when food stamps are involved at school people ashamed people are shamed for that and it was interesting going back and forth between my father who at the time did have you know some money to than my mother who was putting yourself back to university so we were on a very lean budget and it is it likes to pretend it doesn't have that class structure that it got free of it but that's who we were formed by you know america anyway and it's not free of it and how exactly do you think it manifests in different ways it manifests everywhere just from if you're poor you go to the

drugstore the chemist to get your face cream instead of you know the and in the u.k. that we sell for it is for the fancy people but it's the same people behind say l'oreal making bows products or. you know they follow you in places if they don't feel like you're quite right for it or they exist all the examples of it the subtleties the if you go into a wal-mart there which is you know store by and large it's a very cheap clothing store and i think they've just called it a big market here but it was interesting i went into one recently and all the clothing marketed towards people of a certain means were all fluorescent and i thought you're not going to go into a store on you know rodeo drive with all these floor it was like so we can easily identify the poor people there's a lot of psychology that goes into the stuff and i i had a lot of time i suppose to think about it and your choice of rebellion like so many other children all around the world was the only way that many of them have music

and fashion music and fashion and just i didn't i was very ok with being different i was very ok i was looking differently and i was ok with putting out the message of i guess i'm not like you and it wasn't they just knew that inherently the stink of lee you know when you're from somewhere else they love making you feel like you're the freak and i just but it's not me through the country of immigration in the book you say you hear the teacher saying we're trying to teach you the pledge of allegiance you might get the communist out of you and then you say that's how you were fascists. didn't even get a no no historical and you know not really and the books were really wrong and the books that they taught with and you still do. i didn't put this in the book or it got cut but i was very influenced by malcolm x.

when i was eleven and i was your average eleven year old reading material but i was reading the autobiography of malcolm x. and he said something that really stuck with me at that time when i'd come to america and he said why would you let your enemies teach your children and not just kind of. really stuck with me in terms of realizing i didn't want their information in my head i didn't want the propaganda in my head i'll take what i want leave the rest and there was a powerful influence it was probably well malcolm x. you know i'm known for by any means necessary some that kind of power in any kind of move of justice it wants a correct influence me incredibly. they i mean this is the story of the autobiographical part of the story quite bizarre the story where not to being a drug addict a drug addict you end up in rehab you just. i mean stepdad you know really at the end of the day. but you're taught about drugs rehab i taught i learned

a lot about drugs rehab i learned about what they do how much street value was what they look like where the best areas are to procure them and i thought it was the most bizarre form of teaching and obviously they want to repeat customers in this particular rehabilitation center so i chose to leave it because drugs rife in. in hollywood as well where would one would say the right for the much everywhere but in hollywood i'm sure yes and the meanness you saw in the streets after that when you were homeless and so would. you say in terms of meanness it was worse amongst the three thousand dollars suit far worse there was a lot more kindness on the street there's a lot more kindness shown and that is something. you kind of fall into a band of people quite quickly. and i i really i think fundamentally there came from people that did tell the truth and so i just naively assumed people were telling me the truth once i got to hollywood i couldn't

understand why they would lie i would think about it not that they can't be like you because what would be the motive the motive is simply to live. and this is the studio executive system which what it didn't change since the one nine hundred thirty s. was earlier and earlier as a matter it hasn't changed and the. it's the same amount of directors in the directors guild of america i talk about that in the book you know and that's those are all the directors that are making the product that you see that goes into your mind and worldwide and that statistic that ninety six percent males in that d.g.a. directors guild that hasn't changed one hundred forty six why is it being so able to prevent anyone from storming the barricades of cults are very good at that. and supported by the media as well with the raw specifically with me the role of the media is is very much and has always been you know hand in hand with hollywood and the government's completely hands off obviously this government's not going to

be doing anything about it but the government's always been pretty much hands off except for the blacklisting era after that stopped the original blacklisting you know joseph mccarthy in the fifty's it was cointelpro somewhere in between rather than twelve unsanctioned yeah but it was the black listing for mean media the way to speak about how media treated me was that they were in fact paid often has been proven to to drag me to say bad things about me for the last twenty years really and you think you're just i mean in this story it is read read until julianne's about the ending i mean you had this one when to a brit cancer chrysalis records to describe his story and why he was one of the one light in your life he was a light cancer was somebody who helped me out of a bad situation and i saw hope for the future and then he was murdered still unsolved and that was there's

a point where i mean i say it in the book or earmark for weird sometimes and i look at that like the ultimate theft and he was stolen and that was a really it was a seminal moment in my life and also it's just. it was really dark you know and that was a dark that was a dark dark time and were things kind of went black for a while but like anything you survive it because there's no choice and not everyone does result stop either war from resume going after the break.

when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer and it mean when the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict just found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying the is just no way to arrogant and that we wouldn't even many a victim's families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victim's families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in

and say. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way. seemed wrong but all we're all just all. get to shape out this day comes to educate and in detroit because the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. welcome back i'm still here with actor director and activist rose mcgowan another theme throughout the book is the need for conformity not just you know ideas but with the way one actually looks the surface just told me

a bit about that hair color i had links particularly well something i found really interesting and that had to do with you know by a female agent in hollywood talent agent directly telling me that i had to have long hair otherwise the men in hollywood wouldn't want to she said it nastier terms but sleep with me and if they didn't want to sleep with me they wouldn't hire me and the thing is i knew she was right nothing to do with the script writers nothing to do with the plotlines nothing by it is again that conformity and i think we've all seen that that hairdo was just three to blow dry that with the three twirls on that and it's like kind of classic hollywood hair and i do wonder when i look will stop it is i kind of took matters into my own hands. if you up. and kind of i do i do i talk about it in the book i just i broke up with the world

in a way the idea of the preconceived notion of what you're supposed to look like as a woman and i think she would look good or to call me this film director really. funnily enough. and you still believe that this is continuing today actors in hollywood if they're female have to conform to that there is very little leeway specially for anyone starting out well that's the whole thing there's a lot of leeway there's so much leeway but they don't know that they're trained out of thinking there's any leeway this is how it's been done is how it's always been done this is how we should do it and i just think. it's not even a good system they're not even great businessman they could be making so much more money it's not even if you can tame you to take what's special about people and massage it away until they're just an atomic.