only key positions on a party not electing the commission for example who are appointed not one of the team and the way that europe is developed is that the banker and the mountain national corporations have got very powerful positions and if you come in on their own they will tell you we're cannot do another acceptable ideas are today supposed to be given voice on the streets of the eternal city but italy which will be the third largest economy in the e.u. after breck's it has long been targeted for not being in line with washington in one thousand nine hundred the e.u. parliament debated nature collaboration with armed groups to define democracy as former f.b.i. consultant paul williams told sean stone's son of film director oliver about operation gladio on r.t. is watching the hawks during larry or one the years of lead in italy when the release of riffing bombings even the colonial bombing posited from time that they

were all done by really to stay behind units a gladder your units spurred on by the cia well a destabilization of italy is open to debate no one need to bait how a particular italian american actor is destabilize the arguable propaganda arm of the us military industrial complex hollywood her name is rose mcgowan and she's been in the news for bringing down powerful men like harvey weinstein currently on bail after being indicted by a grand jury for sex crimes that he denies roses appeared in scores of t.v. and feature films directorial debut dorn was nominated for the grand jury prize at sundance and they just work is brave tracing her journey from the children of god cult in southern italy to becoming a movie star she joins me now rose welcome to going underground so why do you think many people believe this part autobiography part manifesto about hollywood of the journey towards hollywood as well as only what is so rare. i think it's so rare because people don't talk back to hollywood people don't break rake and they don't

tell secrets even though this is definitely not a tell all and like i say it's a tell it how it is people don't really do that either is that because of the powerful interests stopping anyone from hiding the what's beneath it i think it is the powerful interest i think it's just because it's how it's always been done you know how we call things you know the best poirot for the job we have the same names we have the same schedule that they did from when they started hollywood don't deviate it just stays the same because these are the unwritten rules but you know i don't really believe in unwritten rules i don't i don't see the point and i i don't see the point in not saying it like it is really intimations of the horror and you name check one very famous. francis former. record for so i mean apart from the fact that the lecture shore is actually used later in the in the narrative what's the importance of francis for francis farmer

was a classic hollywood actress and she did very few films she was doing very well and the hollywood powers that be wanted her to continue being famous she did not want to be she didn't want to be an actress she didn't want that life for herself and. the studio head in collusion with her mother had her kidnapped and given electroshock therapy to force her to want to be famous and instead as i say in the book it left her just a husk of a woman and that is kind of i wrote that because that's kind of the message you get as a woman there just. they would love to be able to do that to me i'm sure of it it's it's just don't get out of line little girl don't get out of line with what schork was it you explained this quite funny actually so. was the united states. given that you left the cold in italy and you arrived in the united states which was a miracle truly was i don't know that i've ever gotten over being shocked when america

i tell you the truth on a daily basis is quite shocking. it is an incredibly beautiful land but it was very traumatic and i did have a big quibble with orange cheese and not understand it having never seen it before in into me it was just a perfect metaphor for. i mean imagine going to the food there in the eighty's in america it was going from italian food in tuscany to that was just everything was different was loud it was it was it was everything you think you cried over the denny's getit i cried over eating spaghetti a fast food restaurant i thought this is it i'm stuck when it comes to the classism wedding with and that's the word to use when food stamps are involved with school people ashamed people are shamed for that and it was interesting going back and forth between my father who at the time did have you know some money to than my mother who was putting yourself back to university so we were on

a very lean budget and it is it likes to pretend it doesn't have that class structure that it got free of it but that's who we were formed by you know america anyway and it's not free of it and how exactly do you think it manifests in different ways it manifests everywhere just from if you're for you go to the drugstore the chemist to get your face cream instead of you know the and in the u.k. would be so for it is for the fancy people but it's the same people behind say l'oreal making both products or. you know they follow you in places if they don't feel like you're quite right for it or they exist all the examples of it the subtleties the if you go into a wal-mart there which is you know store by and large it's a very cheap clothing store and i think they've just rolled out a big market here but it was interesting i went into one recently and all the clothing marketed towards people of a certain means were all fluorescent and i thought you're not going to go into

a store on you know rodeo drive with all these flora it was like so we can easily identify the poor people there's a lot of psychology that goes into this stuff and i i had a lot of time i suppose to think about it and your choice of rebellion like so many of the children all around the world was the only way that many of them have music and fashion music and fashion and just i didn't i was very ok with being different i was very ok i was looking differently and i was ok with putting out the message of i guess i'm not like you and it wasn't. they just knew that inherently the state of li you know when you're from somewhere else they love making you feel like you're the freak and i just but it's not me through the country of immigration in the book you say you hear the teacher saying we're trying to teach you the pledge of allegiance it might get the communist out of you and then you say that's

how you were fascists. they didn't even get that no no historical and you know not really and the books were really wrong and the books that they taught with and they still do. i didn't put this in the book or it got cut but i was very influenced by malcolm x. when i was eleven and i was your average eleven year old reading material but i was reading the autobiography of malcolm x. and he said something that really stuck with me at that time when i come to america and he said why would you let your enemies teach your children. and not just kind of really stuck with me in terms of realizing i didn't want the information in my head i didn't want the propaganda in my head i'll take what i want leave the rest and there was a powerful influence it was probably well malcolm x. very known for by any means necessary some that kind of power in any going to move of a justice if you answer it influenced me incredibly. i mean this is the story of the

autobiographical part of the story quite bizarre the story where not to being a drug addict a drug addict you end up in rehab you just. i mean stepdad you know really at the end of the day. but you're taught about drugs rehab i learned a lot about drugs rehab i learned about what they do how much street value was what they look like where the best areas are to procure them and i thought it was the most bizarre form of teaching and obviously they want to repeat customers in this particular rehabilitation center so i chose to leave it because drugs rife in. in hollywood as well would one would say the right fit in much everywhere but in hollywood i'm sure yes and the meanness you saw in the streets after that when you were homeless and so would you say in terms of meanness it was worse amongst the three thousand dollars it's far worse there was a lot more kindness on the street there's

a lot more kindness on and that is something. you kind of fall into a band of people quite quickly. and i i really i think fundamentally there came from people that did tell the truth and so i just naively assumed people were telling me the truth once i got to hollywood i couldn't understand why they would lie i would think about it not that they can't be lying because what would be the motive the motive is simply to live. and this is the studio executive system which what it didn't change is the one nine hundred thirty s. was an earlier comment earlier as a matter it hasn't changed and the. it's the same amount of directors in the directors guild of america talk about that in the book you know and that's those are all the directors that are making the product that you see that goes into your mind and worldwide and that statistic that ninety six percent males in that d.g.a. directors guild that hasn't changed one hundred forty six why is it being so able

to prevent anyone from storming the barricades of cults are very good at that are. unsupported by media as well with the raw specifically with me the role of the media is is very much and has always been you know hand in hand with hollywood. and the government's completely hands off obviously this government's not going to be doing anything about it but the government's always been pretty much hands off except for the blacklisting era after that stopped the original blacklisting you know joseph mccarthy in the fifty's it was cointelpro somewhere in between right of the twelve unsanctioned yeah but it was the black listing for mean media the way to speak about how media treated me was that they were in fact paid often has been proven to drag me to say bad things about me for the last twenty years fairly and you think you're just i mean in this story it is read read as until until the end about the ending i mean you had this one man to a brit cancer chrysalis records just describe his story and why he was one of the

one light in your life he was a light cancer was somebody who helped me out of a bad situation and i saw hope for the future and then he was murdered still unsolved and that was there's a point where i mean i say it in the book earmarked for weird sometimes and i look at that like the ultimate test and he was stolen and that was a really it was a seminal moment in my life and also it's just it was really dark obviously you know and that was a dark dark dark time and where things kind of went black for a while but like anything you survive it because there's no choice and not everyone does result stop you that more from reznor got off to the break.

to get. up and get. in the. school so you're talking to. each other. and then a lot of it i think about time out i skid but i'm about the same as art when i was up the money into. giving them up. my money. to leave. them. a long. long way but you meet. other people

whose life was on the. hour. welcome back i'm still here with actor director and activist rose mcgowan another theme throughout the book is the need for conformity not just in ideas but with the

way one actually looks the surface just tell me a bit about that hair color. particularly. well something i found really interesting and that had to do with you know by a female agent in hollywood talent agent directly telling me that i had to have long hair otherwise the men in hollywood wouldn't want to she said in nastier terms but sleep with me and if they didn't want to sleep with me they wouldn't hire me and the thing is i knew she was right nothing to do with the script writers nothing to do with the. nothing by it is again that conformity and i think we've all seen that that hairdo was just three to blow dry that with the three twirls on the and it's like kind of classic hollywood hair and i do wonder when i look will stop it is i kind of took matters into my own hands. if you up.

and kind of i do i do i talk about it in the book i just i broke up with the world in a way the idea of the preconceived notion of what you're supposed to look like as a woman and i was she would look good or to call me this film director really. funnily enough. and you still believe that this is continuing today actors in hollywood if they're female have to conform to that there is very little leeway specially for anyone starting out well that's the whole thing there's a lot of leeway there's so much leeway but they don't know that they're trained out of thinking there's any leeway this is how it's been done is how it's always been done this is how we should do it and i just think. it's not even a good system they're not even great businessman they could be making so much more money it's not even if you can tin you to take what's special about people and massage it away until they're just an atomic time until they no longer know who

they are what they are then what are you selling you're selling what you think someone should be and that person behind the scenes might not be somebody you want in your head. so it's not even capitalism or it's the fact they themselves are in the cold but internationally billions of people are influenced by it that's the thing and people say you know do you hate hollywood. i hate that it goes out to the world i hate that that thought doesn't stay local you know and there's there's obviously been seminal amazing films and cinema and all these things and it has done some good but i think overall i think on the balance it's a whole lot of harm and obviously in the in the newspapers across the media we know about certain studio directors you just mentioned an agent but what is exactly the rule of a hollywood publicist people wait in new burt lancaster in the sweet smell of success what did they do an influence the billions of people in what they then may

want to emulate aspire to and see in people what's usually somebody a publicist is meant to get you press or media or work usually with other higher ups to sell you to make you palatable and a lot of these people have just seen movies where they see publicists in the movies acting a certain way so they come and they act that way because they think that's how they're supposed to be so it's just kind of like this on and on the people in hollywood have seen movies about people in hollywood so they continue to behave that way even though there's no reason to not just be a person there's no reason to not be. free but the threat is you'll be dropped if you don't take their orders. it's not a threat they do it they they do it you don't want to get any reputation it's worse than you know high school girls sleeping with the boys it's like you don't want to reputation whatever you don't want

a reputation so you do everything you can to not step out of line and and that eventually just again it strips what's special about away i mean friends some journalists who try to interview some straws big surprise the publicists are in there pretty quickly to stop short questions particularly ones of politics i should say or issues of war and peace. i don't know israel gaza or do you mean does that why i wanted interviews are so boring. tell you that control they don't want even stars don't have an opinion do not have an opinion no matter what you know do not have an opinion and i why not we're sorry but you get people on twitter that will say shut up and act or shut up i'm saying shut up and dance and i would say. no we are people too and i think the more that people in front of the camera really understand that they have a voice also and people often get quite jealous of those i have

a platform without realising they worked very hard for that platform i worked very hard to hang on to be sitting here today i work very hard at that why. some actors might have no thoughts on the matter some might have starts. their very infantilized and you get used to being coddled and told what to do where to sit how to look what to be i don't cotton to that kind of. direction. clearly. how big this will have to be before it gets the freedom natalie portman recently said she was supporting gaza robert redford has always been a big name and always talked about the military industrial complex warren beatty you have to be really concerned you have read that big to really have any kind of freedom or even they have strictures a place i think. well i mean i'm sure that the men get

a lot more leeway susan sarandon i think. by hollywood standards was kind of branded you know kind of kooky that's what they like to do if you have a personality or you have a specific point of view you're a kook or you're kind of unhinged. when it's ok to just be a person and have have a point of view it doesn't have to be anybody else's but it can be yours and i think if you're young and you're up and coming in you're making noise about gaza all of people above you will get very nervous because then you're going to get put in celebrity time. because not only is that you in the corner at lincoln so absurd is what magazines liberties i know i mean i mean you get you're like a little kid you get your face in the corner until you get better it's the proverbial time out it's it's quite asinine to tell you the truth so fans of two people you mention in the book if we are if we get away from the level of things

maybe disappointed to know that robert rodriguez going to terra to you know seen as independent filmmaker is not that much different really to the corporate film because not. you know they are there are men with power. and in fact. i would think the corporate ones might have more oversight but. their oversight committee was harvey weinstein. to which of course there was the powerful will say well justice was eventually people often have to just wait quietly and they had a hand and. quantum even so they all know you know he knew about me he said in an interview. you know they say the complicity machine is huge there. there's talk about an industrial complex is one of complicity.

and it's one of continually protecting people that aren't even that great in the first place so they're not. just clean out the crap so great things can come just cut off the head of the rot and let other things florus because we know it's all there we've all worked in those places where it would be so great if it weren't for that one person get rid of that one person. the attitude comes from the top down and the attitude of permissiveness imagine if your boss is a known rapist where you get to get away with pretty much everything right which is something of the malcolm x. in this targeting of the talk because obviously you talk about hollywood functioning as propaganda the billions of people going to the movies when you were promoting them on that level people arguably feel that they can't do as much but it is at the top that things have to change yes it is at the top fundamentally

biting ankles of power does not work. i wanted to show people that you could go for that but of course some people saying that they're there quite a few people still still there other definitely are for legal reasons we got misread and you are the people i mean the how would you see how the law serves them as well in terms of media being able to cover stories like this well i mean if you look at harvey weinstein got to turn himself in on a friday afternoon to be arrested on a long weekend that means his story won't be running all week in the news and already be old news by the time the next week rolls around after the bank holiday you know that's all orchestrated that's all orchestrated in the media by not covering it and the week following necessarily falls into that we've got a great save the police acted like a cd or promotional system of staggering events in his case he has people high up

on his side which is a sad side to be on and it is symptomatic of this probably again to the people you seem to preempt the criticism in the book towards the end saying people will think i should i only would rather than all he would it was me for what element of it is done to. you know i think i get to say to you know i don't know hollywood anything you know why i don't see many people that do you know people like me the ones that are marketed as sex symbols they don't and i talk about this in the book they don't generally get out of their life or they're kind of driven crazy and live off in the desert somewhere and they don't come out the other side it's very hard to come out the other side near an interviewer asked me if i was person on god and hollywood and i said no their persona non-grata was me i get a sense i get to to say. i count and in terms of trying to change things

you talk about emailing tweeting social media because she will boycotting it isn't the world timidly it is to do with mass action and i suppose that in the me too was a big degree of mass action whether it be through regular trade unions the real decline in the united states is that the way forward because presumably even you think this is just one success you haven't been totally successful well i think it has changed a lot i've heard of their reshooting a scene right now on something i know about a project i've heard of where it was too sexualized to rape so they're taking it out entirely people are they are starting to see things with different lenses it's whether they fully understand it or not. who knows but they understand that it's bad and that's a start you know i was sent a script a while ago and every single time the female character appeared she had a laundry basket for no apparent reason and she never did the laundry she just liked her laundry basket. is that kind of stuff i want people to start seeing these

movies and. and the television and picking apart what they're telling you pick apart like what message are you sending me with this female character with this male character with the toxic masculinity this is not just about how women are represented it's man and of course of his men running something they're going to be defined as the men but in a way that i think puts a trap on a lot of men and also i feel like the little boys you see it so young with them when they get to know your so brave you don't cry my heart breaks for them cry it hurt you'll be done in a minute it's cool you're ok but people are so quick to stick you in the box aren't they at that kills me people think they'd do everything for women i think i'm more of a humanist now i want to get out of these rigid structures because they're killing us i mean if you look at the state of the world i think arguably could say it's. having some troubles toxic masculinity can only bring you so far and then it will

cave in on itself but i think it i hope it caves into freedom for everybody because i want everybody to be out of these rigid structures or in because they're just not necessary you know i've been lucky enough in a lot of ways to live a fairly free life even while in different cults at least a life of the mind and i got mine back it was close i kept i kept all the money i got that but i didn't break and i see that so many men i see them like kind of not knowing or being taught how to process things or or just and there's so much you know violence towards women and it stems from it stems from this idea of ownership for one thing of women and the other part i think is not being able to process emotion i mean there are people that are social class and sick there's just that but what about the others you know i mean and and that's where

like i know it sounds really weird but my heart almost breaks par for the man. reza we're going to take. the trip for what are your favorite shows from this season look at your favorite search engine way back for one reason i went because if there's a troubled look at the top of my official. we

have no idea what safety is doing on the vacation but she will be back on air in september. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murderer i would prefer it be killing the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying is just no way to present them that we want even many a victim's families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the get tell here is because that's what murder victim's families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way.

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