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journalist as published a new investigation exposing washington's efforts to interfere in the internal affairs of external countries around the world and to undermine rival governments most pivotal went to an event organized by the national endowment for democracy that is a nonprofit n.g.o.s founded in one thousand eight hundred three supported by both the democratic and republican party candidates currently and operates in more than ninety countries while the national endowment for democracy says its work aims to help non-governmental groups promote democracy in those places blumenthal couldn't help notice some parallels here but i covered the ceremony because these organizations are doing exactly what congress accuses russia funded media outlets control farms of doing in the united states to interfere in other country's politics and with foreign money. the only difference is they do it openly and in the name of spreading freedom. activists at the meeting were quite clear on their agenda as they explain to a maximum of. once again. i'd like to express our sincere
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gratitude to bipartisan. support and also u.s. congress people as well and u.s. citizens eventually we are doing this work with the u.s. citizens tax americans have no idea that they're funding an organization that's explicitly dedicated to meddling in other countries affairs interfering in elections toppling often democratically elected leaders and spreading public relations campaigns to sow chaos against countries that resist washington's agenda but here you have kind of open acknowledgement from this korean activist who is behind the transitional justice working group which is responsible for a lot of what congress states and knows about north korea's suppose it human rights violations so basically the united states is paying for its own findings to ramp up sanctions and hostility against north korea and what's really interesting about
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this event that i attended in capitol hill is that it was timed to coincide with the trump him summit it was essentially a u.s. government backed event undermining a u.s. government initiative to foster peace between north and south korea and that to me seems like almost and then a form of internal interference you think that the national endowment for democracy . if there is a peace treaty that they should cease funding civil society groups that seek a transition or regime change and i think i don't know that that's what they do but i do know that they promote human rights they and i mean for example if russia were funding civil society groups inside the us and that going into the hype i support the work they do i think it's pretty obvious i mean two things are going on there first of all you have. these activists and organizations that are funded by the national endowment for tomorrow. see the u.s.
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regime change arm in south korea who are dedicated to regime change in north korea really worried that the money's going to stop rolling in from washington if there is a peace treaty so basically conflict is an entire industry and it's part of this fake human rights and democracy promotion industry so pelosi wanted to duck that issue and then the other issue she wants to duck is the sheer hypocrisy of supporting an organization that funds civil society groups and opposition media to topple governments and so chaos and sovereign countries while complaining that for example this network r t does that in the united states and that's exactly what nancy pelosi and her colleagues in congress do every day when confronted with the issue there's nothing they can do but deflect and run away as palosi did a lot of what we do today was done covertly twenty five years ago by the cia it's even more the case since the color revolution model has been introduced. and what
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the ne d. does is what the cia might have done to salvador allende in she lay but they do so overtly and therefore avoid a lot of the scrutiny from congress it looks like they're funding democracy and legitimate protests but they're directing their resources exclusively against countries that resist washington's economic and political agenda it's an extension of the cia but it seems like it's pushing human rights and things that americans can get behind and that's why they receive so little scrutiny from the public it's very clever actually i want to go to international today coming up one of the most recognizable sports clothes brands in whole water of the release of the new trying to get what's the fuss about you find out shortly.
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what politicians to do something. to put themselves on the laws. to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure more some more want to press. on to the right to be prosperous like the falklands spectrum or can't be good for. the interest of all those in the waters in the. first six.
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sixteen here now nike is facing a backlash in the u.k. after releasing a controversial garment with some they're saying the company's cashing in on gang culture because of it it's about a club there's got attachment that could be clipped away for easy transit the i'd suggest and it also has a pocket that some say could be used for is a holster for a weapon britain see in the backdrop here a surge in knife crime in recent years. so there's multiple stabbings every day around the country a massive gang problem that's getting worse by the day and night he has released this seventy pound balaklava are they dumb nike are using a black guy to promote about a club with straps and pockets where there is blood there is money now nike are
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endorsing gun and knife crime as well as enforcing racial profiling well done why exactly are you promoting a baloch lover in july if this was in winter it least it's hard to criticize as i say the backdrop to this there's been about thirty five thousand recorded knife crimes in the u.k. over the last two years that's the highest most is the data became available and for more than a fifth of those arrested for carrying a knife it's youngsters we spoke to social media comedian white posted a video on instagram about it bashing nike them for this controversial headgear. listen to midnight nike whatever we offer pronounce it listen to him yesterday starting away yeah so tell me a sad joke because right now it looks like you're targeting the young people who are involved in junk and with this recent stubbins that we've been seeing right now in london this is definitely something we know off to see these are serious people
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know we need to protect quit you watch and it'll explain the you know and i don't do it. even so you get me on the lots of these killings that have been happening recently i like tennant so we're from my hoax they came up with the wrong timing with this not only that is this something appropriate they should be making because yes this by the club was we noticed by the club was right there's many stories you can go into a bio by the club but this one just seemed to be more military look it i don't think this was a great idea you should get star why would we should just upgrade why you had better weeping what are you hiding from us army well good point or not we got a small public reaction to. could be sort of a sportsman like you claimed or. could be also a terrorist my immediate reaction is terrorists first so it's a bit scary. but at the same times i do scary might be just sports equipment to
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find a menacing no no the problem is i'm from canada so all i think of is someone being warmed to me it could be a good winter i'd outfit. it's not up healing to me at all i didn't think you'd be allowed in banks and. it's not just so much that what's going on. here is as if these could have i don't know you can see it was so severe them with weapons as weapons guns pulling something like that why the trying to cover the cats by. i don't see why you watch. you don't want to have a face out you know inviting is not like is going to make you to buy. you know the branded name i don't think it's really a fashion police i think they might have changed colors a little bit to charge for some. i think it's good to.
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make a profit on the back of that kind of image that is encouraged more gangsters and you think here of course there's nothing to do with nike if they don't get it from making they get it from something else it's nothing else to make up by way of being seen around the people wearing. the company says the new products available to multiple markets around the world adding that doesn't encourage gang culture really way and in fact has now removed the soledad item from his website use an anti-violence activist for mckenzie told us companies like nike though should bear more social responsibility they're warm by skiers and snowboarders i agree and i fully agree with that but they're also being warned by gangs in london and they're also being used to cover the faces of known gang members a lot of the young people i work with are now buying these baloch lovers and i'm actually seeing these baloch lovers on a day to day basis and i'm seeing the being worn by children who do not ski or do not snowboard they actually go out and use those in their crimes and the way that
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young people look at the use of about the club and now as part of this part of my opinion these brands need to be a little bit more socially responsible when your brand is so desirable and when there is a trend at the moment of young people killing themselves in london who are using figures like baloch lovers to hide their faces on a day to day basis. around two hundred fifty protesters at the university of north carolina at chapel hill pull down a controversial confederate statue monday night hundred five year old monument was known as silent sam had long been a symbol of white supremacy in the u.s. . i put up a nine hundred thirteen it came down last night to commemorate those who died fighting for the slave holding confederate states in the american civil war the monument had polarized opinion on campus for decades it had been vandalized in the past although many saw it is racist and offensive others argued that film was part
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of the cells heritage and therefore it should be preserved for the university for its part condemned the toppling of the statue as unlawful and dangerous but did acknowledge the monuments divisive nature at least one person was reportedly arrested during the demonstration and police are investigating what they're calling an act of vandalism the insta fold was a part of a much bigger growing backlash against confederate symbols across the country right now. i. i. i.
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democratic. african-american. is generating a big debate political activist raj is right conservative radio host david perkins for to joins us to talk. the implications of the move and how society should deal with the vestiges of the confederation period everything that happens here in the public square and public view is political it's a political plan involving street activity designed to divide us because there is an election coming up in just a couple of months a midterm election here where all congressmen and one third of senators are up for
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reelection it is divisive because it is designed to be divisive because it's designed to activate the political base of the democrat party to get them out to vote in as high a number as possible to this it is forcing people to look at something to have two or three symbols of white supremacy when they're going to school they're abandoning the historical context or forgetting why those statues stand there who it was that put them there what the thinking was at the time and what the statues represent the history that led up to this or that person being remembered in a statute those statutes were not me this route they were made so called white supremacy it would be great to see more conservatives concerned about fighting slavery right here at home we have a president who is inciting violence against people of color whose dog whistles at racism. which have led to people like our sister i'm heather being killed in charlottesville last year we talk about where you're more concerned with the statue
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then you are and if players having the right sitting in need to stand up to racism or white supremacy that run this country the campaign against the statues as i see it as a way to get young people out and make them feel like they're doing something when they're really not accomplishing anything because they're ghosts that they're fighting against is disappearing more and more every year we have to know where we came from so we don't do what the young people are doing today which is look at the present and see all manner of unfairness and injustice and feel like they need to riot in the streets and destroy things to make things right if they just saw history they would. you how right everything you says it's a matter of perspective destroying history ruins your perspective and that leaves you subject to being told what to think and having to believe it because you don't have anything else as. well took a history of how it affects the present people in china with the decades once banned from having more than one child but now a big mutant in a further push to try to improve the country's demographics is
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a proposal to tax anyone under forty you'd only get one child or no children until it has provoked uproar. see i'm forty years old now i wanted to have
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a second child because i wanted my firstborn to have company. haven't had a second child. says that's what i'm saying politics as twenty years ago you were forced to pay because you have children twenty years later you're forced to pay because you don't like slaves or have to pay taxes. states. they
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plane to see plane even the number of planes . hello and welcome to cross talk we're all things considered time peter lavelle remember when the political left stood up for free speech and equality for all and how big life remember when the mainstream media called for the same tone and tenor of political discourse appears to be at a turning point if you don't agree with the left you face insults harassment and even violence is
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a new civil war on. cross talking political civility i'm joined by my guest rob in new york he is a political pundit and journalist contributing to the huffington post in west palm beach we have dr gina loudon she is a psychology expert and host of america trends with dr gina and in los angeles we cross to ron paul cohn he is a comedian frequent guest on the jimmy door show and the young turks as well as host of his own streaming show get your news on with ron all right crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate gina let me go to you because i know your political stripes pretty well and reflect upon what i had to say in the introduction to mean if you don't agree you face insults harassment and bile and ask representatives beliefs about what it means to be on the receiving end of violence it seems to me and i don't want to overdramatize things but over the last few weeks it seems to me that part of the political
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spectrum wants to normalize political violence in terms of speech at least go ahead gina in west palm beach it's discouraging because i think that my whole political life my thing has been that sometimes i'm wrong and i hold myself out to the fact that i may be wrong but i enjoyed the civil. course some of my favorite things to do have always been shows like yours where you can have a conversation and a civil dialogue without ridiculing the other person without calling them names without accusing them of some form of bigotry but the left has taken a tack you call it a civil war i'm calling it an uncivil war as a massive step away from the civility and then they tend to want to do this blame game and blame the whole thing on the fact that the president is somebody who hits back just because conservatives traditionally have never hit back and so i think that it puts conservatives like me in a in a really discouraging place and that we've always wanted somebody who would hit
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back the bully on the playground right i think that's a good thing because bullies in politics they shut down civil discourse but in this particular case i think the left has taken it far too far steve case one but there are a lot of other cases here that we're seeing almost every day now and the political environment you know. i used to remember is that ok i can understand you know the liberals used to be the ones that were taller and in want to dialogue and wanting to engage people and now we have a president which who can be quite vulgar at times so i think everybody on the panel and our viewers would agree many times he's a pretty he's a bit rough ok but why does the left now have to emulate that i mean aren't they supposed to be better they've always presented themselves as being the better part of the political spectrum it seems to me they want to get in the mud. and fight it out that way which is not really part of the left's tradition at least my reading
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of it go ahead. well there is an old expression that you don't get into a peeing match with a skunk and i think it's been a huge error on the part of democrats but i'm going to make it clear donald trump has set the stage for all of this and if there were sixty thousand people in yankee stadium and everybody cheered for him except one person he'd be tweeting about that one person that doesn't like him but i don't think that the democrats are doing the right thing my fellow democrats and in the attacks that they make against trump against his allies just in general i think maxine waters is is the biggest enemy to the democratic party is look like an idiot saying the things that she says and does and i i find it repugnant i've been attacked because. i'll speak and i'll say well as a democrat and then i get blasted on twitter from people saying you can't say that you're not a real democrat you're a phony you're you're you're a plant you're
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a bob and so it's like oh i can have any kind of dissenting opinion i have to just have an automaton o'clock response and you know all the drama will be oh i mean rob let's look at me and with all due respect what do you expect from identity politics ok if that's exactly where it goes you're not fitting the mold you know then you're an enemy that's what identity politics does let me go to ron ron what does the left hope to achieve by this strategy i mean you know you don't have the leadership speaking out against that schumer said something and then he got attacked for it again identity politics comes into play it's a losing proposition i don't know what the democrats hope to achieve by going down this path go ahead ron but you know i don't want to split hairs on optics here but i think when you're in the in the topic of this conversation when you say the left
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. really referring to is the democratic establishment good in the corporate media and i would argue just for optics sake that's not the left one could argue that something like m.s.m. b.c. and the democratic establishment that is in fact the liberal establishment but when your say liberal you should be using it in the field loek sense percent to the left in the best of times and are sent to the right on it affects them a very severe the question it's actually wrong there's nothing actually progressive i agree with that ok but in the end the questions that i set out to everyone here i said stablish mentor left so kind of procreation and ok but let's but my question is what does the establishment left want to achieve by taking on this strategy all it does is increase you know it just increases the volume in the temperature of political discourse when we have no to the point where we don't have any ok go ahead ron. oh i agree with you and i think they really thrive on creating this
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am the dichotomy of hey we're not trump and trump's awful and we're not that when it comes time to talk to policy they really don't have any ideas you know we live more than ever before we live in a two party system lewis black said it best the republicans have bad ideas the democrats have no ideas so when you have a absolutely no ideas and when you have this president that's kind of a knee jerk reactionary you know that says you know some outrageous things sometimes what else can you do but then get in get into the match yourself and gauge in the hyper partisan click bait culture that were a part of and try to run with it and hope that maybe you beat a republican or two and twenty the third priority of the democratic party is winning their first priority making sure progressive policies don't happen their second priority which those two things kind of go hand in hand is pleasing their
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donors their third priority maybe beating a republican or two but engaging in just partisan bickering you're getting all three of those things accomplished while you get in those top two things accomplished any ads at third want to maybe maybe not so rep a recipe for disaster ok. reflect upon the fact that recently over the last week or so it's been conservative women particularly that have been attacked in public we don't have to go through all the names there's so many of them out i mean i thought the democratic party loved women and respected women go ahead gina. yeah we had the whole when they go low we'll go high thing it looks like when someone goes low they're going to go lower the whole war on women thing they've turned that into a war on any woman who disagrees with their politics i would really like to get back to a time where we can have a conversation a little bit like we're having right now frankly where probably the three of us
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wouldn't agree on policy matters much at all but we can definitely agree that civility and conversation are much more intelligent way to go about establishing policy that works for america and slinging insults and especially as you pointed to peter it's the identity politics i would argue not the president the identity politics that have brought the democrats to where they are in what is amounted to a truly uncivil war that is really among the left in this i mean they're right we're getting along pretty well not perfectly but pretty well i remember a few years ago when i thought the republican party was imploding but at this point i really think that identity politics is imploding the left that they have got to get some issues to stand on and to work together frankly because even if the three of us four of us sat down and discussed policy we could agree on we could find something that all of us are passionate about and we could fight together on that but rather than that the american people and especially the traditional democrats
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out there they're watching this lunacy go on the left and thinking i don't know but i know that's not what i want and they'll lose in the midterms because of it i feel quite sure at least at this point if something doesn't change fast you know why can't the establishment democrats rein these people in are they afraid or do or they're worried to be their bases drifting to more progressive socialist we could look at what happened in new york i mean what what what what still lack of reaction because it seems like the lack of reaction shows the huge splits within the party go ahead. it's a completely fragmented party right now there is no leadership who can you see is the leader of the democratic party not seeing any sense of booker. maxine so you know and here's the here's my proclamation for the democrats that they better that they have to get the sky is always blue water is always wet and donald trump is always going to be donald trump.

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