so fast why can't the establishment democrats rein these people in are they afraid or do they bill or they're worried that the their base is drifting to more progressive socialist we could look at what happened in new york i mean what what what what's their lack of reaction because it seems like the lack of reaction shows the huge splits within the party go ahead rob it's a completely fragmented party right now there is no leadership who can you say is the leader of the democratic party no i want to see. booker maxine so you know and here is that here's my proclamation for the democrats that they bet that they have to get the sky is always water is always wet and donald trump is always going to be donald trump so stop complaining about what he says and what he does because he's always going to do that why do you throw some policy at us and tell us what you were going to do democrats to get rid of them or why should

we vote him out what what is your plan as a democrat i can't speak to any policy i've heard other than donald trump is a creep and a jerk ok i agree so what are we going to do. ron you're agreeing there now that my point is this it's ever been ever since the campaign not even the election is that the more you go after this guy the mainstream media the more you push him up and it's free advertising what in any any and so much you know you have seen him go out on the road i mean all he does is attack these people and they love it ok they were giving him all his material run yeah you're absolutely right and i'm sorry guys i missed a little bit i was having a tech issue on my end it's called got it at first i thought it was like why was it something i said i don't know if i don't have a good discussion but that everything just kind of went out for me very second so if i'm not totally caught up i apologize but yeah i think rob i think i've heard

you're going to they don't have any policy ideas i don't think that's an accident though and that's why again i'm very disenfranchised by the two party system right now because i don't feel that there's anybody with power in politics with the exception to bernie sanders that represents any of the policies of the right going to jump in here i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on political stability stay with r.t. .

to begin to. open up a bit. in the. midst of this so we're talking to. you. and then a lot of it i'm about to come out i skid but i'm about the same as art when i was up the money into. the long low oh my god how much. so you'll be. there when you go to the ok a long. long way but you made. other people might go from zero zero zero zero. zero zero zero not that. i. feel.

so. sick. welcome back to crossfire all things are considered. disgusting political civility . ok let's go back to ron and. right before going to the rec you want to finish up a point please go ahead. yeah i mean i mean i was just getting at you know rob brings up that e's not seeing any policy ideas from the democrats he's absolutely right i think this is by design i think that really the united states is ready to

go in a more populist direction if the four of us you know the four of us sat down and said dr gene it was same if the four of us sat down and really talk policy we wouldn't agree on everything we seemed to kind of be all over the spectrum we have different points of views on different things however there would be some really big paler that i think we would all have in common i think we would all want to end the wars and invest that money back home i think we would all want to see a populous where on employment is in better shape we might have some different ideas on how to get there but it's something that we would all want to see happen there would be some big crucial for instances where we would be on the same page who does that not benefit that doesn't benefit the establishment that's right ron let me go to gene and you know why all four of us can have a civil conversation because we don't have to worry about donors really that's reason why ok yeah it becomes more of a health care and that's right that's right you know geno one of the things that

really bothers not even those a rumor. that one of the things that really bothers me about what's going on here is that my first incarnation professionally i was an academic historian and i taught courses at the university of california and i really really hate it when people start using the term nazi and calling someone hitler because i know the history of the twentieth century in europe extremely well and the people on the left throwing those terms around are so abjectly. incorrect and without knowledge they don't know what they're actually saying it's a very terrible those are terrible terms and you have to use them very sparingly go ahead gina because that's what gets on my. nerves well that is discouraging to me too for exactly the reasons that ron cited when i believe that there are productive things we could do if we would actually work together and for all the criticism of this president he has been someone who is willing to work with his political

enemies and he's willing to sit down with democrats and he's willing to ask their opinion and that's one of the things i like best about him it's even willing to call himself off once he's really decided somebody is a bad person and to stop and listen and if we had a little more of that particular element in our society i think we'd be better the democrats have themselves in a real position and here's why their money is coming from the far extreme left those in hollywood and the progressives in general but their votes come from places like the rust belt the unions where the jobs are drying up because of illegal immigration and other sorts of policies that the democrats have passed so the democrats can't figure out how to get both the money and the votes and that's their delimit they're going to have to start to develop if they're going to survive in a two party system as ron referred to they're going to have to develop some sort of policy that can appeal to a broader base and pull from republicans not that i'm here to advise the democrats

although that sounds like that's just what i did but i kind of watched some of these problems happen within the republican party not all that long ago and i honestly and you may not believe me as i am on the right and i don't deny that but i've landed here honestly and i'm willing to admit when i'm wrong i honestly crave a government where we have a strong opponent that comes up with good ideas so that that makes my site yet or idea that publishes all of us when we're all on is a very smart observation and i think that's really good in that makes the political debate brings it up to a higher level here who are going to this historical thing that i think it's i think it's really important i mean when we have people you know there's like the n.t. for people that you know this really. the french people there are saying that you know. making comparisons to nazi germany well i would say that there is a historical analogy and i would volume our germany where germany was collapsing in the one nine hundred twenty s. for a whole wide variety of issues but there was that during that time there was the lack

of respect in the breakdown of public discourse that's one of the reasons why the nazis was able to come to they were able to come to power and i think that this is a critical moment that that's a history lesson is if you continue down this path yes you could create a very very disturbing future but we're not there yet and i think people need to step back and and all of us here of a like mind policy policy and more policy i'm tired of the emotions go ahead rob. well first of all as a jew i don't like the word nazi thrown around so arbitrarily and easily i think i'll make it clear i think he's despicable i don't like him he demonizes immigrants but that's not the same thing as what took place in nazi germany and i agree with you peter we have to look at things historically it's it's like what happened in iran with the ayatollah khomeini and we were so upset about that as americans well

why did that happen who did we support we support of the shah of iran what republicans used to complain so much vociferous lee when when from el castro took power but we had multinational corporations in cuba paying workers two cents a day there some course there was a revolution so i we have to look at what leads up to things and things donald trump didn't just pop out of nowhere and invent himself and just get elected by magic there were things that upset infuriated people and he had a you know voters that came in and elected him and so we have to look at the why instead of again complaining about donald trump oh he's this he's that he's terrible he's a jerk. and tom landry had a great sign when he was coach of the dallas cowboys that said what if there is no what if. so let's let's deal with reality and what's happening right now and again

i'm going back to policy policy policy you know ron we had a supreme court justice kennedy announced he's stepping down i'm really worried and they mean if we think the political atmosphere is bad now wait until his successor is announced and before he goes or she goes before congress i mean this is going to be one hell of a storm ahead of this here because it's already started i mean the ink wasn't even dry in the document and the. war really started flaring out i'm really worried. about how this process is going to work go ahead ron oh i mean you know i'm also worried about a hyper conservative supreme court i understand i understand that and i understand i understand but what i'm saying but what i'm saying is is that i'm more worried right now is the process because what it does is it taints the entire process it taints the court and now you have people on the left extreme left doubting the constitution itself now there's a lot of things that need to be done but if we don't have the same playing field in

the same laws then then we can even further away from communication there is going to be a come from ation process and now the democrats want to get their act together and ask good questions and said destroying their arms up in the air ok that's not going to help anyone go ahead ron. and we'll see what they do i mean when it came to no gorsuch they certainly just kind of threw their arms up in the air and in i think that one of the things that this does for the democrats is it really kind of strengthens their argument of blue no matter who hey look what happened look at the supreme court for all you people that want to actually change within the party for all you people that wanted to run as progressive straw you people that went to joel stein this is your fault it's not the fault of barack obama who just kind of let his pick go and didn't do anything about it it's not the fault of the democratic establishment who propped up a flawed candidate in arguably the only candidate donald trump was capable of

beating it's not the fault of our political lack of any type of hardball whatsoever and just rolling over to the republicans because a lot of the democrats just go along with the republicans anyway it's your fault the whole supreme court thing just kind of strengthens their blue no matter who argument meanwhile you know we're facing a potential hyper partisan hyper conservative supreme court for years and years to come and i respond to something gina said i don't think the problem with the. the democratic money is necessarily hollywood now this is coming from somebody who the president of show business still will not take my phone call maybe there's a little bit. there but i think it's you know they're bought and sold by the same people you know their donors are the pharmaceutical industries their donors are big oil so of course they're not going to come out against fracking because big oil gives them a lot of money of course they're not going to come out. of wall street thank you

you so it's like when you have two parties that are just kind of bought and sold by the same people one party is allowed to represent those people want to apologise to clique because they were on the right this is what we do the other party is just a little more subtle about it ok gina you know i really like deniro film sees a great actor i think he made a complete fool out of themselves by making a spectacle lot of themselves and one of these award gatherings here i mean will it's really time for hollywood to kind of simmer down and you know we give you a few ball actually a lot of bucks to watch your films but i don't need to hear your political opinions to be honest ok because i don't see how anyone reading hollywood except maybe clint eastwood i can show my prejudice but i don't see that they're particularly well informed and i don't know why they should try to get involved in the political process go ahead yes for example when they're saying you know destroy ice it's only

existed for fifteen years that's not true it's just called a different name before so when hollywood comes out on these some of these issues they sort of they make some mistakes because they don't have the historic knowledge that you're talking about and and that doesn't look at either but i think that ron illustrates a really keen point here that should be punctuated and that is when when both parties were both listening to the same tune right at the wall street you know whoever came up whoever had the big money because they needed it to be. reelected that right there is what i think that people like me who like civility who like you know i am a conservative bona fide as best i can tell again i keep an open mind but i think i am but that's what i liked about donald trump and that's why i elected and worked hard to elect a donald trump it wasn't because he was like me it was because he didn't need or seemed to want or even seem to have a lot of regard for those same groups that had always controlled you know in

particular big pharma particular wall street some of those groups he didn't have a need for them he didn't seem to care or give them much regard or even respect and i wanted somebody who would answer to me and i think that the average democrat out there right now they want the same thing they want to politician who's not bought and sold who will answer to them and they can't find that in the democrat party like now and that's the conflict i'm going to jump in here i think the political establishment needs to calm down and i would give the same advice to the president of the united states that's all the time we have many thanks to my guests in new york los angeles and west palm beach and thanks to our viewers for watching us here to see you next time and remember crosstalk rules.

when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer and it be no in the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict just found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying there's just no way that hasn't been that we hear even many victims' families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have just to get help here is because that's what murder victim's families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't their way. out what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or

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doldrums presidency appears on shaky braund after two former associates plead guilty to. federal crimes especially. initially to investigate alleged collusion with russia so far only expose for all. violation. where is the. you know they're still looking for where you're trying to. force. going to respond congress is also mulling even more aggressive measures against. this also ahead.

seven police. trying to stop hundreds of african migrants from entering spanish territory. i run the clock across the world this is your r.t. international from the team myself you know me welcome to the program our top story there's been plenty of talk this witness the over donald trump's presidency which now appears to be in a precarious position less than two years to the president's former associates have pleaded guilty to federal crimes it's put trump in hot water and his ex lawyer has

implicated him as the or traitor of campaign financial violations the media is already getting in a spin over his possible impeachment. going to be impeached with this i think the beginning has to be set and mark right now and wolf we're in a watergate moment but there is i think a lot for the president to fear impeachment then list discussed in mainstream media discourse today it seems became a little more realistic for trump although it's not exactly what you might think nefarious links to russian agents or collusion with the kremlin something far more mundane as his former lawyer michael cohen pleaded guilty to bank in tax fraud he also admitted guilt in campaign finance charges allegedly paying off former mistresses of trump for their silence on the orders of the now president in a double whammy trump's former campaign manager pulled out of fort was also found guilty of numerous personal fraud charges potentially facing years in prison but

what about those russian links after all that's what the attorney general authorized special counsel miller to dig up coordination between the russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of president donald trump they found buying ten tax fraud evasion lies to the f.b.i. hush money but no russian collusion fake do the right hugh do it count we got our big. where is the crow loser you know there's no looking for collusion where is there to lose your finds a delusion it's a day of embarrassment for trump and bad timing too with midterm elections approaching and democrats looking for any i mean if they can find the president though will view this as a vindication a year and a half later after several investigations the russian leak story still seems dead in the water although who knows what else the ongoing investigation will find the

fact that they haven't come up with anything and that the all they've managed to claw back with paul metaphor is mis firings and some bank fraud charges in. the same with cohen in violation of campaign. regulations finance regulations that proves there is no russian collusion or they've wasted two years to find fairly pedestrian violations sure if you went into any of the campaigns including hillary clinton's and spent two years with an investigation team in the grand juries i'm sure you'd find a lot more than ms filings and maybe some violations of campaign finance laws well donald trump has given his first direct response to his former associates allegations against him the us president went on twitter praising former campaign chief paul munna ford for breaking under pressure while at the same time accusing x. lawyer michael cohen of making up stories in order to get

a plea deal. russian president vladimir putin has slammed washington's latest sanctions against moscow being contra productive he made the remarks during a joint press conference with the finnish president in sochi. it's a song regarding the sanctions those actions are counterproductive and meaningless especially when it comes to a country like russia it's not just about the us president's position it's about the position of the so-called establishment of the ruling class in broader terms and i hope the realisation that this policy has no future will come one day we will cooperate in a normal fashion. let's go through what is speaking about the first batch of the latest u.s. sanctions against russia are set to come into force this whedon's they have focused on exports of american made elektra mix used in the urban nautical and space industries moscow says' the measures will not affect the russian public by the way in november moscow could face a second wave of restrictions described by

a us state department official more draconian now this could include more limits on trade and banking and cuts to diplomatic relations the measures under consideration may also russia's state earline from entering u.s. or space well washington say the new sanctions are in response to the poisoning of a russian double agent and his daughter in britain earlier this year the investigation into the case is still ongoing no hard evidence of russia's involvement has been made public besides about congress hearings have focused on all their questionable accusations again thrown up moscow. ongoing efforts to interfere in our sacrosanct election process seize and those of our allies are just some of the unacceptable behaviors of the putin regime putin wants to break apart the american republic russia's attempts to interfere in the two thousand and sixteen u.s. presidential election are well and widely known russia has undertaken

a campaign of malign activities in its attempt to compete with us our allies and our partners and cats up to thirty one gives us more tools with which to respond to the bread and brazen nests of russia's malign contact demands a firm and vigorous response our actions are imposing an unprecedented level of financial pressure on those supporting the kremlin's malign agenda and on he said stairs of the russian economy well a recent gallup poll indicates fifty eight percent of americans the public think it's more important to improve relations with russia instead of taking strong steps against moscow which as you can see there is by by just over a third of those asked veteran journalist jill noria believes u.s. politicians are using the so-called russian threat that destruction from domestic problems the whole thing is quite a conundrum for me why they continue to try to politicize this issue and use sanctions of some way to help them domestically except that they're trying to cover

up their own shortcomings their own short changing of the american people and to try the blame our divisions and our economic crisis in our racial divide here on and on an outside power which is the oldest trick in the book going back to the beginning of civilization if the democrats lose or do not do as well as they hope in the november election having used rusher again as their as their main talking point they may have to readjust and realize that the progressive wing of the party is growing and that the american people don't give a damn about russia and that they have to finally address the real issues here and leave this russia issue alone and get back to normal relations with this country that is a that is imperative for. for world peace essentially. trouble housebroken aren't on the border of a spanish enclave in morocco where hundreds of african migrants attempted to storm the coastal city of sway to in their attempts to reach europe the resulting clashes saw police officers attacked with us it. was you that was

nice and i don't jam i thought it was well police say seven officers suffered burns from a seed or a similar substance thrown out it's the second time in a month that migrants have attempted to breach the border of the spanish territory inside morocco in july we know around six hundred migrants trying to break through into sewage. on mainland europe meanwhile staff one migrant center near brussels claimed they were being regularly abused then threatened by migrants re if a national has more on the story from belgium. when workers signed up to help at a migrant center near brussels they knew the challenges they could face but now there are green allegations of abuse and violence as stuff come pour in with their

stories they have no respect for their role in tears they take drugs in the morning and some say they might attack the women working at the center as soon as something happens everything is done to protect the refugees they always have an excuse because of their difficult past many refugees and sold to threaten the stuff but nobody says anything on condition of anonymity workers also complained to local media that a colleague was attacked with a chair leg when we reached out to police brussels for clarification they confer and they'd been called by the center but stopped short of giving any details we. yes indeed we have already intervened at this center the response teams were called three times over the past week in situations like these there are issues either between migrants or between the migrants and the organization itself they do not respect the rules or that sort of thing and that sparks conflict the angio run.