this fight between what we perceive to be fundamentals of reasonable support for pricing going forward versus this anxiety that consumption growth might get bark down which is causing the softness in prices right now this is so interesting we don't have much time to get a long answer but what are the major companies the major mining companies that produced copper what are the top two to report that report and then could delco chilean national company down a chilly chilly course excellent so insightful so interesting john marshall i.h.s. market thank you so much good to see you. and now we move to vaporing what was once seen as a great business with an unlimited future is now in question legal journalist molly barrows from national trial lawyer magazine joins us for the latest on the business and the dangers of baking molly it's so nice of you to join us we appreciate it

tell us i mean what are the big companies maybe the former tobacco companies and others were they sort of looking at bay figure as a way to to save them from reduced cigarette consumption. absolutely barton thanks so much for having me on boom bust today but certainly they're looking into that traditional cigarette products are taking a hit as more and more people are turning to these alternatives these electronic devices which is what a ping is essentially it's like cigarettes and it is extremely popular in fact they are looking at the success of one company in particular jewel labs they own about fifty percent of the east cigarette market and they are making money hand over fist in fact they made almost two point three billion so far this year and one year alone it was about one point three billion so of course following in those footsteps big tobacco companies are saying how lucrative that is in developing their own products but right now jewel labs has the market on that invading is extremely popular with people here in america as well as across the pond they don't

see that stopping anytime soon i think we reported the philip morris i forget the other one but the big tobacco is getting into into the act but now there is this new news coming out that vaporing is not necessarily you know granola healthy way to smoke i mean it's smoking without the ignition i guess what's the new data show. yeah it's interesting there aren't a lot of studies out on vague being but the few that are out there have mixed results one of the most recent is out of england and as a result of this particular test it has the public england or public health of iran which is basically like their public health department saying hey you know something easy carets vaporing it's not as bad for you smoking regular cigarettes but it's not like it's healthy for you either so when you smoke a regular cigarette you're inhaling some seven thousand toxic chemicals many that are carcinogens that can cause cancer well it's not like when you smoke east

cigarettes they also contain nicotine that's highly addictive that's been known to cause any number of diseases so it's not as if you're getting good stuff when you smoke this you're just getting lesser amounts of what's already causing problems and that's what this study in england found they actually recreated instead of just setting the chemicals that are in the z. cigarettes they recreated what it looks like when you smoke it into your lungs and what they found is that it causes inflammation in your life and it also hinders the ability of healthy lung cells to filter out the bad stuff that comes in with stuff like cigarettes and just regular day to day moving about so it's not exactly a safe or healthy alternative but it's better than smoking cigarettes and that's basically the advice of this study is they said hey if you're going to smoke or if you're trying to quit smoking this potentially be given as a prescription aid to help people get off regular more damaging more dangerous cigarettes but it's not i mean it's like playing russian roulette if you will there may not be as many bullets in the gun but there's still a bullet in there yeah that's really super interesting and you know one of the and

i don't know if this is anecdotal or part of a study but also some folks who are taking the bait ping up are actually turning to sugar a recording of a ping they one of them the real stuff just real quick i mean do you think this is a viable business for the future. absolutely they are investing more and more in the next generation of products in fact british american tobacco one of the bigger more traditional big tobacco type companies expected to spend nearly seven hundred million this year on developing those next generation products and as a result of that they expect to double their revenue actually that's next year they want to spend that kind of money you know not as this year but they expected double their revenue from those next generation products is well so the future is certainly an alternative giving people tardive to giving them what they want which is nicotine but again don't be mistaken and think that this is a safe alternative they don't really know what the impact is going to be and investors are still a little sketchy on it simply because the f.d.a. has said you can't sell it to minors in the united states and oh by the way because

these studies are conclusive we're not recommending it as a quit smoking aid unlike some other folks like the public health agency in england barrow's little journalist for the national trial lawyer magazine thanks mel appreciate your time thanks bart. and some companies are catering to people in a new and unusual way our correspondent ashley banks tells us interesting innovative way that some folks are getting their gasoline. if you're not from new jersey or oregon like me i'm sure you've grown accustomed to pumping your own gas however some people have become so busy that they're hiring others to fill their tanks some are relying on a start up company called based in silicon valley the company acts as a mobile gas station the company refers to itself as for gasoline members pay a twenty dollars monthly subscription fee plus the cost of gas but in the last year the company has spread from three to six hundred cities nationwide and clued in

boston chicago atlanta houston los angeles and now washington d.c. one of you she's the biggest challenges is convincing the big cities with public transit why the subscription is worth it being that most residents in large cities commute to work using buses trains cabs or over you know she delivers gas to parking garages and high rise buildings which may be nice for some however others are concerned with the company carrying around tanks of flammable liquid greg anderson a division chief in the california state fire marshal's office told the guardian if they're going into the basement parking lot of a high rise that actually is a large concern shore's the public and skilled technicians are hazmat certified and have not had a spill in the three years the company has been operating adding technicians carry small fuel tanks spitting in the back of their pickup trucks conforming to local laws and the tanks are certified by the u.s.

department of transportation according to the national association of convenience stores you know she comes at a time when gas stations are becoming harder to find between one thousand nine hundred four and twenty fifth team and the number of retail fueling sites in the u.s. dropped twenty five percent you know she is offering customers other options to get them to buy in offering things like oil changes tire tracks car washes and brake pad replacements on top of this when you she delivers gas to vehicles during the work day whether it. in parking lots or and residential driveways the field technicians communicate with customers be a smart phone they carry a tool with them that will allow them to open fuel tanks when they are want also the technician accidentally scratches or causes a miss how with the vehicle at service a he or she will take a picture and send it to the client that way they are aware of what happens in addition you she's co-founder brian a frist says quote if we notice your passenger side wiper blade is broken then you get an email and a push notification on your phone and with one button you could schedule to get

every place you know she see oh is claiming that the company is saving the average driver on hundreds of dollars by offering gas and a lower price the c.e.o. is hoping to expand the company to nine more cities by the end of this year and washington actually banks are t. . that's it for this time thanks for being with us you can catch boom bust on direct t.v. channel three twenty one dish network channel two eighty or streaming twenty four seven on you know t.v. that's the free t.v. channel one thirty two or as always you can find us at youtube dot com push boom bust archie catch a later. finally

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from sanctions to syria russia's security chief meets with his american counterpart for talks in geneva but one issue seemed to interest journalists more than others when john bolton addressed the media afterwards whether you ever concerned the. president's security that's of course i mean that's a silly question for. us at the democratic party cries foul over another suspected hacker but the answer turns out to have been much closer to home. facebook bans

hundreds of pages of groups and accounts a link to iran and russia for alleged political meddling. by broadcasting live from our studios in moscow this is our international. plan to have you with us. the u.s. national security adviser and russian counterpart have held more than five hours of talks in geneva but john bolton didn't give much away to reporters any short news briefing afterwards. i think we made a lot of progress we identified certain areas where lines of communication could be restored there were some where the areas of disagreement remain we didn't see. much utility in resuming discussions there are going to be

some things where we're going to consider inside the united states government consider more fully what our position is and then decide to proceed from there well this meeting of national security advisors was well the groundwork was laid for it when the president met in helsinki last month today they cover the whole range of pretty much what had been touched a poem in helsinki they talked about nuclear nonproliferation they talked about cyber attacks they talked about the situation in syria in afghanistan and in ukraine as well and this meeting of course comes when relations between moscow and washington are at a particularly low ebb with sanctions from the united states against russia looming over the poisoning of said in the united kingdom earlier this year russia denies any role in the attempts on misguided piles life when it came to the iranian sanctions in the iran nuclear deal john bolton unequivocal he's saying that the

will be sanctions put in place against iran bush doing business with iran and that the sanctions all coming into november and he's in the russian side didn't ask for any exemptions during the meeting today and that the u.s. side on expecting to gave many exemptions at all i think this whole notion that sanctions also are a weapon and the how we as a country america's i can't you know threatening even more severe sanctions and i think that's the wrong way to go i think sanctions are an early rehearsal for war i think people have been just blown away out of purport. they also talked about a rainy in troops in syria mr bolton saying that he wanted to see both as he put it regular and irregular rainy in troops removed from syria pulled back from syria the russian side going into this it already said that they were sabine support of this

book that this wasn't something that was going to be happening immediately as with any of these meetings when it comes to senior figures within the the trump white house and within the trump of the trumpet ministration there were questions about russian meddling and this quote this time while it was no different whether you ever concerned that iran's president is a security risk of course not i mean that's a silly question. and i just spoke to him literally a few minutes ago and. we have performed here in exactly the way i think the two leaders would have expected us to and you know i honestly have a little faith in the american people who elected him president thank you very much we waited hours in hours for mr bolton to coleman and speak to us it was very short .