well of discrimination after the journalist wrote about his experience on twitter a b. and b. was quick to respond it expressed regrets over the incident down stressed its opposition to all forms of discrimination we were joined in the program by political commentator nicolette markovitch and french lawyer husni mati who gave us their thoughts on the rights of owners to choose their guests i think there's a problem with. the foreign committee u.s.a. in the large sense today in france which has got a bad image and some people would rather not rent than rents to people who got this bad image and particularly within the north african community music giving some are jews who are racist people who don't want to see enough african post in their house and lot of people will the people coming from north africa crime and so the key to terrorism and unfortunately these are some of the reasons why we speak a lot of the north african community today i don't agree with the thing that we can

sum up the reality of people acting or having delinquent behavior just by giving this people but these have nothing to do this has nothing to do to explain the behavior again i'm not saying the anti or north african community there are a lot of as a citizen i work with their interests and they're nazis let me answer i'm to i'm just telling you there is a problem which has to be settled i have no people from the north african community who are ashamed of what other people in their community doing and you can see this unfortunate on a daily basis imagine the french person who has no contacts with the north african community who read the press on a daily basis and we read people who have been committing crimes who have been terror who are terrorists who are advocating death to france or that they hate tracts and every time to read this unfortunately again i'm the first to say unfortunately unfortunately they see that they're often associated with the name from north africa now if there are people who are considering that. the root the

origin the behavior the. nation or the faith on the moon faith is. good. to discriminate they are wrong on their own not respecting the moon this is what we have to remind him of in the states which is. low. in the u.s. state of louisiana for pipeline activists on the journalists have been arrested and charged under a controversial new law the remaining activists say they are not a facing increased police repression including the use of tasers here's the pipeline at the center of the story.

well the new law took effect in august the first on the lists pipelines of critical infrastructure which in essence makes trespassing on the ground that they're built on illegal those disappearing at risk a hefty fine or as long as five years behind bars activists say that the number of off duty police officers were also working for

a private security firm to protect the construction site they are no longer working in that capacity activist ted hall believes the new law goes against america's core principles. let me think of the right where it is data city as well as the desperation of companies as well as these legislators in trying to hide how pathetically an american this kind of a law is this privatization of unconstitutional actions that have not been held up in the supreme court and clearly don't measure up to the law of the land the constitution this needs to be understood as something that should be contained it is so that it doesn't spread throughout the united states and so it does not spread throughout the rest of the world yet ted hold the activists you just heard from also took part in the dakota pipeline protests you might remember that that's a project faced opposition over fears that drinking water would be polluted and

indian heritage sites destroyed it. on numerous occasions the protests there turned violent with state law enforcers as well as the national guard engaging in standoffs with the activists officers used force to disperse crowds on watertown and in freezing temperatures hundreds of people were injured some seriously police defended their actions saying the activists were trespassing and rioting the scribing the most very aggressive here's ted whole again with his take on not. you i believe that any kind of perceived violence if that would ever occur would need to be under incredible scrutiny because it's doubtful that seasoned advocates for farmers rights advocates for landowner rights advocates for safety and see in climate future are going to resort to that kind of to set it in

a civilized approach. just coming up to sixty minutes into the program and back after the break with morning clude ing the british immigration citizenship scandal about seeing a former nurse face deportation even though she's lived there since she was an infant her story has been told to our t. lots more besides in ninety seconds.

most people think to stand out in this business you need to be the first one on top of the story or the person with the loudest voice of the biggest raid in truth to stand out on the lose business you just need to ask the right questions and demand the right answers. question. welcome back to the program washington has hinted it could hit turkey with sanctions over its this isn't to buy a russian major earth defense system the u.s.

has also warned against other nato allies having similar ideas you know when it goes against our policy to have a nato ally such as turkey use an asse four hundred system part of the problem with that it is that it is not in iraq for a ball with other nato systems and so we are against the having some of our partners and allies around the world potentially purchase ask for hundreds trigger cats i'm not going to get into that but we have made very clear what could trigger sanctions for other countries and entities around the world the russian made s. four hundred missile system is capable of hitting multiple high speed aerial targets within a range of four hundred kilometers the deal signed by turkey russia last year is worth two point five billion dollars on the first systems will be delivered next year has been looking to bolster its your defenses since the u.s. withdrew its patriot missiles from the syrian border region back in twenty fifteen

but russia has long time military trade partners from all over the world as the head of the state arms exporter explained this to us that arm of the s four hundred is the most advanced missile defense system in the world countries are already lining up to purchase we have gained a firm food hold on the arms sales market to arab countries there is a traditional partnership with india and china our allies in the collective security drew two organization also work with military industries on more denies and forces. of former us the boom of jim jones is the opinion washington's angry over turkey buying the s four hundred because it undermines u.s. attempts to damage russia. the people behind these policies do not look at russia as a partner at all they look at it as an adversary and that their goal is essentially regime change in russia buying russian weapons is not bad because they are

a competitor for business they're bad because there is essentially a full scale political warfare being carried on against the russian federation by the agencies of the american government i don't know that this is nationally what president trump wants but it certainly wanted hartman of state department of treasury and other organs of the government want and the purchase of russian weapons is bad because russia is bad i think that not only with regard to arms purchases but every other excuse we can think of we will find ways to put new sanctions on russia or countries and companies the deal with russia. a former nurse who's lived in britain since she was a baby is facing deportation sharyn fatalis who was originally born in the car at the end and his father served in the er force is one of hundreds caught in the so-called windrush scandal a government policy which wrongly targeted commonwealth citizens immigration status

charan's being telling us her story. i had to stop working i lost my job i was a registered nurse i went into financial difficulties i lost my dad in twenty two or my brother to suicide i ended up stealing money as one patients. have it ended up in person getting a prison sentence everything just accumulators it was just like a knock on effect people are guide people have literally died off stress people have committed suicide because of this it's been a tough road for sharon a former n.h.s. nurse who speccing deportation despite having lived here most of her life while waiting for an update on her status she was told she could no longer work and was advised to seek charity help in order to feed her kids if they can just allow me to go to work at least i'm not allowed to claim benefits and the person said not you're not allowed to claim any benefits you have no status so i said to her home i

suppose to feed my child he's twelve he didn't do anything wrong and she said well go online and seek charity the forty six year old was born in germany while her father was deployed during his service in the r.a.f. her family moved back to the u.k. months after her birth i mean our family has been connected to to england for years everyone was proud of him being a soldier i saw because of my dad service i shouldn't work my challenge of stuff and i should be pushed into destitution that's it and i should be proud that he was serving the queen in the royal air force. that's a punishment has siblings who were born in the u.k. have never faced problems with their status but sharon has been told she is not british on the grounds that she was not born within the nation's boundaries sharon believes she has rights to citizenship because of her father's service there's a document called the queen's rules and regulations of the armed forces and this

control is everything you do as an as an army personnel wherever in the world you are and it says in black and white any children children should not suffer from their citizenship nationality problems anything were when they were born they should be treated as born on british soil if there was one the home office said inaccurate legislation summary of legislation so history in the queen's document is wrong one of the girls said well i'm not nationality trained i said so wear away you dealing with me but you give me a british but at the cricket so you have me on your numbers that i was born in britain but then i'm not british the home office has previously said that there is no guarantee for children born abroad to non british citizens to claim british nationality even if their parents served in the armed forces sharon now has no choice but to wait for an appeal decision on october the fourth sharon is just one of dozens of descendants of the wind rush generation who have had their lives turned upside down by the government's hostile environment policy to clamp down on

illegal immigrants i just think it's a racist thing i don't like to preterism but. who is it happening to is a minority groups because i met my mother to group then i put it on to. some francisco golden city known for its baby views and stunning landscape is apparently a wash in human waste the problem has got so bad but special teams are being deployed to clean the place up to. the worst i will. saying that there is more there's more. on the sidewalks and i've ever seen you know growing up here that was something that did not wasn't the norm but the worst thing i've ever seen for sure.

san francisco city where you needed three hundred fifty thousand dollar income to afford a median priced in a city that has just announced a patrol to clean up the streets instead of telling people to use a bathroom san francisco is going to send a patrol to pick. a six person crew that goes around the city to clean up how much would you have to make to do this job. nobody wants to step in feces i have children i don't want to do that either i don't like finding use needles but there are approaches in the city is trying but we actually need some federal help in this case in my opinion. you've got to get your hands dirty if you can. all

staying stateside will twenty u.s. election be a direct slugfest between conservative. and democratic socialism crosstalk the possibility. the features are laws that say the collapse gap when the soviet union collapsed because of the u.s. meddling in boris yeltsin and all that's going on they had this skyrocketing alcoholism and so shoulder tasher fee and here in the u.s.

because you have this enormous financial it reengineering to take all the money being printed and put in the pockets of a few folks and leave the vast majority in a state of zombification this is the collapse gap he was talking about the u.s. and the soviet union both collapse in the one thousand nine hundred ninety period it just took a stake in the u.s. as he describes it you know longer to realize that collapse. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murderer i would prefer need me to win the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people was terrifying lose just move hasn't been that we're even many of victims' families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's

what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace and it's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite you know we've been through this and this isn't the way. hello and welcome to crossfire we're all things are considered i'm peter logo is democratic social. some of the future of the democratic party the future of america is moving to the left a winning strategy to take on donald trump's vision of conservative populism one thing is undeniable mainstream politics in both parties are under pressure to evolve and become more accountable.

ross talking democratic socialism i'm joined by my guest steve malzberg in new york he's a conservative political commentator in washington we have ivan eland he is a senior fellow at the center on peace and liberty at the independent institute and in los angeles we cross to run a cone he is a comedian is a frequent guest on the jimmy doris show and the young turks as well as host of his own streaming show get your news on withdrawn all right gentlemen crosstalk rules and effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate i always go to the person that got up early is for the program so that means it's you ron in los angeles god bless your soul. we you know we hear a lot about the the rise of democratic socialism. that turn to the left in the party though the donors don't seem to want to go there what is democratic socialism because i'd like to remind our viewers i've lived in communist eastern europe and

they call that democratic socialism ok and they didn't have a lot of birkenstocks and they didn't have a lot of capital to point out so what is it in a nutshell go ahead. well democratic socialism in the contemporary american sense i mean you know whenever people throw around these terms you need to factor in you know the snapshot in contemporary time but democratic socialism is certainly not authoritarian socialism or anything like that democratic socialism as the d.s.a. is presenting it basically just gives more rights to the workers it still allows enterprises stuff like that however workers have more rights and they have more of a say and they see more of their product and what that d.s.h. mission is in particular is to try to get away from the economy that instead exploits workers and is focused on destroying the environment and war they're trying to get away from all that to occur in an economy that is more sustainable

that workers have a better seat at the table and where everybody has health care ok ok steve i mean you know socialism tends to become authoritarian if you don't keep an eye on it i'd like to point out in a move in the country that had a pretty disastrous experience with it but steve you know when i listen to a lot of people talking about democratic socialism ron pointed out on workers' rights i don't hear that so often when they talk i hear about abolishing ice having open borders. you know cultural relativism that's what i hear i hear identity politics and that makes what they hair on the back of my head stand up go ahead. absolutely all you have to do is go to the democratic socialists of america website and find out what the democratic socialists of america are really all about everything you just alluded to plus guaranteed income whether or not you're working when when you talk about the workers having more rights they want the end of capitalism and workers to run the show workers would own and run everything there

would be private ownership by corporations stockholders would go to you know where and let me let me just if i may hate reading thing but this is very important the disgraceful use of prisons to regulate behavior would be replaced with a system that decriminalizes a wide range of offenses and provides victims victims are the ones in prison provides victims with mental health care and various forms of counseling to help people find productive ways to move forward after committing serious crimes so you commit a serious crime no more prison you know get counseling these people are loony bins ok let the democrats run on this employees ok steve what you just described is good mo in one form or another let me get i've been ill and in washington here. i hate reading things too but i will a harvard university study. published a study in april that found fifty one percent of those between the ages of eighteen

and twenty nine dislike capitalism with a majority prefer and socialism as a political system is socialism a political system that's what i'm worried about when ron talks about workers i'm all yours i'll listen to workers' rights i don't have a problem with that ok we need a healthy left in the united states here but people are talking about a political system that is socialism go ahead ivan well of course the technical definition of socialism is nationalizing industry nationalizing the means of production and i'm not sure i hear anybody really talking about that i see straight . king similarities between the right in the left that we have now i wouldn't consider trump a conservative i would consider him a nationalist he's been for quite a big a big government that we want to talk over measure in all its forms i think you know he was he passed in the republicans went right along with them three hundred billion dollars budget meanwhile cutting taxes and yawning the deficit and the debt

we also have him putting on tariffs protectionist tariffs which isn't conservative and then bailing out the farmers with twelve billion dollars worth of aid which doesn't really cover the problem it's not going to cover the losses that he's cut off the terrorist he's also said he's not going to do away with security in medicare now my purpose here isn't to attack trump i'm just saying that he's a more nationalist republican and i think bernie sanders followers have a lot in common with him to some extent now of course that's left populism and he's sort of a right populist in the case of the president so you're seeing encroachments of big government and you know we have all these terms for democratic socialism right wing populism but we may end up sort of all at the same place with more government encroachment on our freedoms you know ronnie it's seems to me the in looking at some of the races that it's still been a more of

a rejection of the status quo and some people move to the to the right and some people move to the left but everybody seems to have a problem except for people in the center and they want to keep everything the way it is and i did mention just off the cuff donors don't want to big change here too and i'm not to i'm not just at tacking the democrats here you can easily as i've been did do it to the right but republicans as well go ahead ron. absolutely so first of all we have border security we had border security before i suggested it's not like anybody who calls for the abolishment of ice is calling for open borders i'm in favor of abolishing ice i think this country is a lot like espresso in that regard better without ice however that doesn't mean open borders that just means a rejection of this organization that is being authoritarian and brutal so that's the first point and also yeah the democratic establishment is not a big fan of the d.s.a.

or anything of their about that this is their first priority. but yeah i mean their first priority is stopping progressive policies from happening and policing the donors their priority further down the list is maybe beating a republican but that's not that big of a deal because whether that happens or not the gravy train keeps a roll and. we are seeing a rise in populism now i would make the argument i know of some you guys on this panel see things differently that's fine but i would say right wing populism isn't really a thing that's kind of an oxymoron so i think trump ran on this kind of idea of that and a lot of people latched on to it i would say largely he hasn't delivered on that and i don't think he's going to but i think that the time for true populism is at are at the forefront right now and if history in the united states is any indication we're kind of due for a sharp turn to the left or right now we're mirroring the great depression in the

anyways ok but what happened after that was f.d.r. ok ok let me go to stay here because i mean again it's you know i mean ron you've been on this program before and we've discussed this you know left in progressive in this stablish mean and all that that's fine but steve you know every since two thousand and ten the democrats you know have lost over and over and over again because i keep running on the same message over and over again and. one can make the argument that trump appealed to the people that filled the disaffected i mean a lot of white men a lot of white people in general voted in two thousand and sixteen because they finally found a candidate that they could they could see that would consider their concerns ok so i mean you know a lot has been said here but i mean i do i do think that this is a lot about insurgency and it's all about bernie sanders i think that's going to be the most important event remember not the trouble is elected but what was done to bernie go ahead steve well first of all let's also point out that donald trump got

the higher percentage of hispanics voting for him only and did mitt romney or john mccain which i think is something that goes overlooked and really should look the reason why the donors don't want the you know the socialist democrats influence and and policies and platforms is because they can't win i mean that's why someone like me is begging you and begging the democrats to run how do you explain to let ensemble or know where you stand keep. the lid on so cool and a little first of all this a very very very small percentage of people voted and she happens to live in a district where where the message appeals but even she isn't honest when she is pressed on what she she believes as a democratic socialist she says oh i don't think we should have labels i don't like the label if that if the word got out that she was for abolishing prisons abolishing prisons abolishing capitalism so not good for the nations as well as

being about what are often prison industry those are two completely valid it's a policy as there is simply different things if you want to talk about what's going on or rather have a long conversation like that and how it's ok to have further to fall and lee different thanks. guys for the program what they think about where the program i said one thing. well time for everyone i've been limited to turn to you. the g.o.p. should love these democratic socialists because it's the it's dividing the democratic party and you can tell from the very top they're scared of these people go ahead i would yeah i would say to the democrats that you know it's ok to have that wing of the party i mean the republicans had the tea party wing and but but it does make your candidate an electable in certain places now if they had the democratic party runs more conservative candidates in these places they may have

a better chance of winning but i'm sure the party apparatus doesn't really care for a lot of this talk about. you know free college education for everybody medicare for all because these are very expensive programs and nobody is figured out in the democratic party or anywhere else how to pay for these but of course you know the republicans have done this with their tax cuts that's what they do to get a lack of good ok i mean well and i mean anything in fact let me jump in stead of the increase and i have to we have to go to a hard break after a short break we'll continue our discussion with democratic socialism staying with our team.