what about what profit prison industry those are two completely but i don't think it's a policy as there isn't simply different things if you want to talk about what's going on or rather have a long conversation like that and how it's actually take that further to haul it lee different thanks. guys as well i really hope for the program what they think about when we heard the program i said one thing equal time for everyone i've been listening to turn to you. the g.o.p. should love these democratic socialists because it's the fighting it's dividing the democratic party and you can tell from the very top they're scared of these people go ahead i would yeah i would say to the democrats that you know it's ok to have that wing of the party anymore the republicans and the tea party wing and but but it does make your candidate an electable in certain places now if they had the democratic party runs more conservative candidates in these places they may have a better chance of winning but i'm sure the party apparatus doesn't really care for

a lot of this talk about. you know free college education for everybody medicare for all because these are very expensive programs and nobody is figured out in the democratic party or anywhere else how to pay for these but of course you know the republicans have done this with their tax cuts that's what they do to get a lack of good ok i mean well and i mean let me living in fact let me jump in stead of the increase and i have to get we have to go to a hard break after a short break we'll continue our discussion on democratic socialism staying with our. most people thing to stand out in this business you need to be the first one on top

of the story or the person with the loudest voice of the biggest raid in truth to stand out in the news business you just need to ask the right questions and demand the right answer. questions. the future are laws that say that collapsed when the soviet union collapsed because of the u.s. meddling in boris yeltsin and all that's going on they had the skyrocketing alcoholism insall shoulder. here in the us because you have this enormous financial and reengineering to take all the money being printed and put in the pockets of a few folks and leave the vast majority in a state of zombification this is the collapse gap he was talking about the us and the soviet union both collapsed in the one thousand nine hundred ninety period it just took a stake in the us as he describes it you no longer are to realize that collapse.

but i. am finally into one also today and could have any now how is it going to land on thousand people point. line and if he would be would it be that easy to the point in time that i had in me. plus is that going to get the money to people who. didn't. vote but i thought it might have been my little bit going to do much of one of our little bit of start up that out of money good job out of much of the woodwork to mop up to get a job but it. exists if one does slowly move. somebody.

to see. you can be no problem. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing democratic socialism. ok let me go back to run here and. again i want to stress the issue of identity politics because when i look at some of the things i mean democratic socialists of america i mean i've been around for a while ok and i looked at some of their older literature and you're spot on they

looked at more and working people getting a fair shake that's fine but what i see now is this infusion of identity politics and i think that you know i can say pretty confidently given the election results over the last few years that doesn't work it doesn't work for the democratic party but they they don't you know that when you talk about transgender toilets and stuff like that it turns off the heartland i'm from the heartland this is something that people they want the factories to start opening up again they want their wages to go up and then you have these things you know this political correctness and and these pronouns all this nonsense and i don't have any patience for it because it doesn't advance my life or the people around me how do you address that run. well there is a world of difference between exploiting identity politics for just political jargon nonsense and addressing issues affecting different communities i would argue that the d.s.a. is doing the latter who's doing the former i would say that's what the democratic

establishment is doing so so i think i'll lot of the issues with identity politics as in using it for wrong and dishonest means i think that's something the democratic establishment is doing and there is again there's a world of difference between them and the d.s.a. and movements like it the democratic establishment they're the ones that like to point their fingers at people less powerful than them and say oh you didn't support hillary clinton well clearly your a sexist you're not a big fan of harris well you're a sexist and a racist that's where identity politics yeah floats in a dishonest way and there's a world of difference between that and addressing issues of different communities one is a good thing one not so much well steve would probably wrong just proved our point i mean in this identity politics it is it's a dragon that eats its own tail so obviously trump supporters are sexist and homophobic but it within the democratic party if you didn't support hillary then

you're just as bad as the trump people i mean this is insanity. right it's a way hillary will tell you if you're a woman you listen and you didn't vote for her because you were listening to your boss and your husband and your boyfriend and you're not strong enough to stick up for your own beliefs you were told who to vote for don't forget half the country is a basket full of deplorable zx and that's the mainstream democratic party look again i can't say this enough when you look at a free this free that. by the way let's look to latin american countries let's look at venezuela what's the inflation rate there forty thousand percent i mean please i beg i beg the democratic party adopt the leftist ideals here adopt the platforms to adopt the ideas here you'll never win another election never it's impossible in this country that and the fact that they don't see that really calls into question what they are what their goal is because they're not dumb they're not stupid people

they know they can't win generalized elections and the good point made by ron earlier. democrats are running conservatives conservative democrats who are antipolo c. and to appoint pro trump on issues so when districts and you're talking about nationalizing democratic socialism it doesn't make any sense well cayman how do you explain bernie sanders then gudrun how do you explain bernie sanders and i mean peter you even said yourself bernie sanders is the biggest story here yeah do you guys if you think that it can't win and i mean we don't disagree on the corruption of the democratic establishment that's one thing where all of us will be in agreement but how do you explain bernie sanders a guy who was an open socialist who came out of nowhere and almost pretty much constant grassroots revolution probably would of had the establishment not cheated him is applauded in the heartland with

a true populist message how do you explain bernie sanders if you entertain the good he says the democratic socialism can't win steve if you want to play. because bernie sanders yeah because bernie sanders is a polished socialist he doesn't talk about any of the other issues all it talks about is income inequality it's unfair unfair unfair he doesn't get into specifics it is talk about the jails he doesn't talk about the the groups that you talk about transgender etc he focuses on one message and one message only which resonates with a certain percentage of the population a rather large percentage perhaps but when push comes to shove if you want to run as a democratic socialist or a socialist and you have to own the other policies that go with it and that will never fly ok i let me get i've been in washington i mean is is is this a pivot. transformational moment because you know in many ways you could see the trump is the same thing for the g.o.p. because a lot of the purists in the g.o.p.

still hate trump ok and and also what we have here in the democratic party you know we there's a huge split i mean i think all of us would agree that income inequality is a big problem and that is the single most important issue that can divide a society we can always have these other issues on the side income inequality is dangerous here. is the democratic party really being able to address that issue well i think we have to i think both parties. have noticed the income inequality even some conservatives have have started talking about it but the problem is the parties differ on the cars of course the cars to the democrats or the democratic socialists are you know big corporations and. you know pry excessive profits for corporations and not giving it back to the worker for the conservatives it's that the the very very opposite it's that the system has

become so bogged down with regulations and other things and big government that the market is not allowed. to you know all the regulations create essentially oligopolies and that sort of thing and that that causes income inequality so it just depends on which side of the fence you're on politically. ok ok well right you know ron i mean one of the it was brought up to me here is that you know this mantra you know with free there's free education free welfare free. education for everyone and they still want to have an open borders i so i want to harp on the open borders thing is i mean this is been amplified over the last few months here i mean if you want to have a big welfare state a super welfare state don't you think you should have a border to make sure the rest of the world doesn't take advantage of it i mean the

people on the inside the burger to say whoa whoa we want this for ourselves because we're paying for it ok so the open borders argument kind of deflates unless you want cheap labor go ahead rob. well i mean again the abolishment of ice and open borders are two different things it did soon no one is calling for just complete no nothing whatsoever but where everyone is calling for reasonable border security at least to the extent that i see it what people are against is the brutality of ice secondly it's not free stuff quote unquote what it is is a reallocation of resources we spend more on bombs in the military than pretty much the next thirteen countries combined just about we have more than enough resources in this country to have single payer health care nonprofit single payer health care which you know the community would pay for it's not free stuff it's a reallocation of resources of what we're already paying we already pay a higher g.d.p. for health care than most other countries and we get less because of

a broken for profit system same with education we could reallocate our resources to have to have to wish in free college in this country we choose not to same with the green new deal or an infrastructure program we have the resources to do all this stuff but we don't allocate it that way instead we just give bonus bomb money to the trump administration or whoever's in power ok omid do the same stuff steve you know education was meant. then that's another point for me i think that all in all government expenditures and almost all except for maybe preschool and kindergarten should be cut because all they do is teach an ideology this nonsense postmarks is post-structuralism and it brings up people into the world that can't do anything except for yell and scream about. a perceived victimhood ok i mean i was in the university of california system for a long time and they don't teach you much they distich you to be angry and teach

you to be a big tim go ahead steve well well look at what the attorney general sessions said the other day talking about the universities calling some of them out by name that you know they're raising a bunch of snowflakes they have safe rooms and quiet rooms in places you could run to and you can't offend people perceive the fences and blah blah blah the whole thing is becoming a total joke look again all this talk of free stuff at least i think ron acknowledge it's not free everybody pays for it and it is a reallocation of funds i mean that so to say that ice is brutal is insane to say that without ice you're not you're not advocating open borders is insane the public is already the polls show they did and we didn't. know what limitations. there was no i don't think we did but they were elsewhere and i'd like to know who you would keep out i'd like to know who you would keep out on the what circumstances i dare you to name what the circumstances would be and who you would keep out look the public is again. one note pony today because the public would never go for these

radical leftist ideals proposals policies so plays somehow let your candidates run on these policies and you will suffer worse defeats then you did under obama whose candidates all throughout the country state local government leverage level got slaughtered and now we lost over a thousand cans now that we lost over a thousand can see all over all in the nation so you want to make it two thousand adopt these policies ok i'm the new i mean obama the guy who ran on a center left platform and won twice didn't deliver on it by the way but yeah but yeah but ronnie didn't have didn't have coattails ok and that's undeniable ok ivan you know what we've. run in. concert here what we've seen on this program is not really a policy difference it's a cultural difference and i think that's what the election showed and i and then

unfortunately this cultural the vision people are not talking to each other we did a pretty good job in this program last thirty seconds go do you have anyone in washington well i would just say i think you know we need to stop the stereotypic yelling and talk about the issues when we talk about all these expensive programs that cut the defense budget the numbers just don't add up i'm fall for cutting the defense budget naf but it's not going to pay for single payer health care or a university education for everybody we're twenty one trillion dollars in debt we've got one hundred trillion dollars in deficit and i think both parties stone address the facts ok gentlemen all i can say is to be continued that's all the time we have many thanks and i guess in washington new. org and in los angeles and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on r.t. see you next time and remember.

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hundred fifty. five. washington releases its latest list of anti russia sanctions saying they will hit on monday to look at what difference they might make on top of the existing restrictions. must be aware of being a news channel as trumped rush of collusion stories again. headlines t.v. channels are now being caught in the crosshairs often this hour. a rift forms at the top of the scotland's governing party over sexual allegations levelled against former first minister alex salmond he talks r t about why he's taking legal action against the government and. it's an extraordinary situation when the scottish government starts to put it is for the confidentiality after the

shooting everybody connected with this that that was going to be absolutely protected from the process. a very warm welcome to the program to you from all of us here at our th q. in moscow thanks for joining us this hour the united states has confirmed that its latest sanctions against russia will kick in on monday the restrictions will target russia's financial sector as well as arms sales reporting from washington d.c. here some america. now the new batch of sanctions will come into force on august twenty seventh and will prohibit russia from importing secure u.s. goods and technology related to national security but there were also a few waivers first the foreign assistance act which would have terminated all aid to russia except for urgent humanitarian assistance is waived second the prohibition on arms sales that was introduced in two thousand and fourteen will

also be waived determined on a case to case basis a state department official said that these waivers are essential to national security third arms sales of financing which has been in place already sanctions that will deny u.s. government credit and financial systems ban exports of secure goods and tech a few days ago president putin said that these sanctions were counterproductive let's take a look. regarding the sanctions those actions are counterproductive and meaning this especially when it comes to a country like russia it's not just about the u.s. president's position it's about the position of the so-called establishment the ruling class in broader terms i hope the realisation that this policy has no future will come one day and we will cooperate in a normal fashion these sanctions were announced earlier this month over russia's alleged involvement in the script paul poison in which there still is no evidence for russia has repeatedly denied its involvement and has even offered its assistance to the quay and investigating the incident but this was apparently

ignored now as russia gets slapped with sanctions it's very likely that we'll see russia respond with to for tat measures political journalist john white believes washington's focus on sanctions is an attempt to divert media attention from troubles at home. i think there is the discord in washington over the circusy or the sanctions clearly i think key members of the tribe or ministration would be opposed understanding that there counterproductive and they also have to pay attention to the increasing disquiet in europe over the sanctions especially in germany which has of course a long standing economic ties with russia so it's to be expected that some of them would be waived but i think this is just an attempt to confuse the public maint and united states to try to distract from the growing problems within that country of problems of ratio and justice social economic injustice that tend to force and

force consensus when it comes to the ability of the u.s. ruling class to wage wage domination in a world this position in a world. meanwhile trump russia collusion stories are again gaining momentum but now one t.v. channel is under fire with it even suspected of being in cahoots with the kremlin that hearkens looks into the claims. we've all heard about trump russia election collusion you know the great scam that brought the u.s. president to power he was asian of collusion collude passably smells a whole lot like collusion there was ample evidence of collusion but where is the closure you know there's still looking for collusion where is the closure finds a delusion little did we know the conspiracy goes deeper now it's in the media it started with a trump tweet on proposed land expropriations and alleged murders of white farmers in south africa covered prior to this by fox news president of south africa posed

has begun and you may have seen this in the press seizing land from his own citizens without compensation because they are the wrong skin color that is literally the definition of racism it's a story that's been making headlines for quite some time in different outlets and multiple countries but there's just too many coincidences here our coverage by r.t. to that list throw in russia and things get heated i'm simply shocked shocked shocked that r.t. has also been pushing a story line similar to tucker carlson's about threats facing white south african farmers including this family they claim sought refuge in russia. thanks for pointing out i did know that threats to south african farmers was a major story on r.t. there must surely be a link here of fox news reports trump's twitter feed or t.v. there's a clear pattern if of course we ignore the fact this shuttle has covered related

issues in south africa for quite some time the south african parliament has voted in favor of new legislation that could see land from white farmers seized. so africa's government has vowed to tackle violent crime a problem that is theirs poses an equal threat for all races living in the country . just outside south africa's capital stands the statue of the man who was behind the earthly policies of apartheid it's a whites only enclave which allows black visitors only under special permit. the discrimination of the apartheid in south africa has long come turn and all the evidence is obvious trumps been talking to the russians again and are to you collude with fox or what to cover when and how it all adds up this u.s. administration just loves putin and next time you see reported in russian media that's also covered by other media that's also been tweeted by trump you although

what's really going on. a rift in scotland's largest political party is emerging as the country's former first minister is being investigated over accusations of sexual misconduct salman is accused of two cases of sexual harassment and the current first minister nicholas sturgeon a close ally of salmon said the situation is incredibly difficult for her party. for my party this will be extremely upsetting to members of the s.n.p. up and down the country is a difficult situation but what is important is that completes our treaties seriously regardless of who the person complained about is i can confirm the scottish government received two complaints in january in relation to and examined mr sam and was notified of the complaints in march and forms to sam and the people involved on wednesday august twenty second of my conclusions and that i was considering the public interest in making the fact of the complaints and the

investigation publicly known scotland's police have refused to confirm whether an investigation has been opened the allegations of sexual harassment date back to two thousand and thirteen are examined denies any claims of misconduct and says he is taking legal action against the scottish government we spoke to him about the allegations he faces. i think few to the complaints that were made against me and i have sued deny any semblance of criminality so when you have such things you need a process which is both confidential and fair and most reasonable people will understand and what i am not frightened of going to the highest court in the land to establish that it seems the scottish government looks a bit shaky in their position or anything like this depends on having a fair show having a feel opportunity and i'm afraid the scottish government process doesn't do that he don't get to see the evidence you don't get to present your own case i was

barred from speaking to any civil servant many of whom incidentally have texted me today saying why didn't you come to us to support your position well the reason is i was banned from doing that by miss leslie evans the family secretary the scottish government i wasn't allowed to contact them directly so if you can't present your own case you've got an unjust process. these investigations dependent could vent today that confidentiality if you don't have that then how and there are people good have the confidence to complete in future because not just the person complained of oh it's the confidentiality of the complainants and the scottish government would break you that cover then gelati so we told them to not make that statement because we were taking the action in the court of session but there's an extraordinary situation when the scottish government starts to break its order confidentiality after the shooting everybody connected with this that that was going to be absolutely protected for the process. well let's

understand the unique about the scottish government process of talking about events of many years ago when i'm not a serving scottish government minister i'm not even an m.p. and m.s.p. at the present moment and therefore it's really important if you try and introduce such a retrospective pursue. you make sure that the passon who is being complained of it has the opportunity to properly present the case the scottish government's been making the position look the should apply to everybody including former first ministers i absolutely agree and everybody including former first minister ever the body in the line that is intitled to a fair process and a chance to state the case fairly what could be wrong without that no you know would say the only good i can see coming out of this is we're on our way to the court to session that's a real court of real judgment with fear process is they'll meet with decision and then.