ok the names of all the citizens including their religion ok now the mayor's with some conscience destroyed those lists before the nazis get a hold of them the ones that wanted accommodate they said oh yeah well here are the jewish people right here and those people are taken off immediately to auschwitz and other concentration camp so that's what you get from secret lists those who are bad enough on paper on computer they're really mischievous another proposal he has it's been reported here is the first time this would be able to be done at airports in britain and all ports people who from the security services immigration offices would be able to question people who have arrived who they suspect osp eyes not for being terrorists but for being spies what do you make of that initiative well this is part and parcel of this draconian overreaction to. terrorist events now what you're going to do is just harass the general public to the point

where actual sensible regulations are completely discredited and disregarded it's quite amazing how people have lost all sense of proportion because of nine eleven because of seven seven because of terrorists acts and no one asks why is it always that that they do these things or do they come out of the womb shouting i hate great britain i hate america no it's not that at all look to the causes of the terrorism that's a much cheaper way to stop it and just finally pictures were beamed around the world of you being injured that you know as bulls hearing she says she won't torture people as boss of the cia what sort of would you say would be a chill the chill sent through nato counterparts of secret agencies here in europe now that she's in langley she was nominated by the president united. states donald

trump who says torture is wonderful torture works i'm going to do waterboarding and worse now. would trump have picked a person who would say oh no and i'm going to do that anymore i did that didn't work when i got there give me a break as for me you know there comes a time we have to take a stand ok if you can stick can't take a stand against torture what can you take a stand that gets i follow a fellow from actually from the west bank from bethlehem his name is isa in arabic a stood up against the authorities and he was tortured and i think that actually they killed him at least i escaped that so for right now go and thank you after the break. as the un's under-secretary general she's the ruler followed up his bestselling chronicle of mass murder in india by the british on but only some more coming up about two of going underground.

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welcome back former top diplomat and internationally one of india's most prominent politicians shas ether or has been in the news over charges surrounding the death of his wife the full statement from his lawyers can be found on our website but we can talk to him about an ongoing court case the former united nations under-secretary general however can talk about his new book why i am a hindu and he joins me now as he thanks for coming back on the great american great american writing del said the whole decline of the west can be attributed to the failure of pantheism or the loss of pantheism but you say in the new book that the hindu ism can mean no god after all so what is the end of his hinduism is we really of approaching our understanding of the cosmos which doesn't actually require us to believe in god in the personalized anthropomorphic sense in fact for

a thousand years the hindu idea of god was rather like the muslim idea that is that god cannot be given a shame of form or gender shape a bigger pardon cannot be touched the new imagine could be an idea could be a spark could be a puff of air we don't know what god is right so a god without qualities is what the hindus worshiped but they realised that in fact ordinary people needed more than that they needed something they could look to a they needed for example in the basic ear a lot of nature worship happened people worship trees and rivers and fire for example so they said no we better have an idea of god that actually boozer they are by the way the big sages the is the the thinkers and writers i mean you're talking about religion. about a thousand years into its existence of four thousand years so that's what i'm talking about and then came up with the idea of god in a more familiar sense issue or a big one but they said since no one really knows what god looks like let's allow

people to imagine god as they want and so there are three hundred thirty three. a million names of god with lots of forms you want to imagine god as a potbellied gentleman with an elephant's head going to show you men that's the image behind you as we started the show you want to imagine god as an eight armed woman riding a tiger you may do so as well but they're not all they're all merely different manifestations because the human imagination is so limited that we need to think of a god that we can worship strictly speaking god in hindu ism is brahman is the split as spirits that suffuses the cosmos there is everywhere and every one of us is united by the same so will the up woman which is in you which is in me which is in your pet dog which is which is in every living creature and each of each of us finds our seven a position where in western religions for example or the abrahamic feeds the body

has a soul in hinduism the soul has a body the soul exists it adopts your body or mine for a finite period of time then it discards our bodies and moves on the ultimate goal of the soul is to be able to move into god into brahman and that is what we consider salvation in the philosophy of course what most critics and people who praise the book have been talking about and that is. the tolerant version of india is a given it verse is obviously what has been seen as intolerance associated with the current indian government. you you say that hindu ism clearly accepts the possibility the abrahamic religions ups are all fine judaism christianity and islam so weak on the perhaps the greatest modern hindu preacher who in the late one nine hundred century made a very famous speech in chicago to the world parliament of religions said the just

as all sorts of rivers flow in different parts crooked and straight into the same sea so also always of worship lead to the same god he said that i'm proud to speak of a feat that has taught the world not just tolerance but acceptance and so profoundly important idea because tolerance we are taught is a virtue but it's ultimately rather patronizing it says tolerance says i have the truth you are in error but i will make none i'm mostly indulge you in your right to be wrong very different except where is accepted and says much more it says actually i believe i have the truth you believe you have the truth i will respect your truth please respect my truth and by that logic hindu ism is willing to see the merit in every way of worship what it doesn't accept as the clip of any other faith to be exclusively right and it doesn't make any such claim itself hinduism has no equivalent of saying there's only one way of reaching god or salvation it

says always are equally valid ok what about what about this criticism of hindu ism that it it is based around the cost class system and are you tackle the subject in here the very idea of progress is there is hurt somehow by this version of universal acceptance well the thing is as far as the caste system is concerned many good hindus like myself i'd like to think devout in the us can find plenty of justification for. rejecting caste altogether for saying that this is not it's maybe part of a social construct of the way it has evolved in society as practiced in india but it's not intrinsic to the faith and i can assure you as i've done in the book scriptural examples anecdotes from history parables from our our great old epics and other poor honors would say that you should not pay attention to superficial sternal distinctions such as cost hierarchy but it's true that many hindus still

practice it and particularly when it comes to discrimination against people because of their belonging to supposedly lower caste that is actually illegal in india it's against the constitution where we have an affirmative action program for the so called federal costs and tribes from the lowest street of society the most the most unfortunate members of our society but discrimination prohibiting people entry into temples for example on the grounds of their cost that's illegal an action can be taken against you if you practice caste and that's what some would argue it is of a scale of say racism in the united states is the only difference is where is reese's visible castors not you can look at somebody and say oh that's have as new yorkers to look at somebody else and say he's up for the fact is that that's why cost is eroding with urbanization you've no idea of the cost you're of the person you're rubbing shoulders with on the bus and with affirmative action that's come a democracy you may be an upper caste person go to an office and take orders from

a lower caste woman that's life going too far to say and i know you touch upon this in the book and your previous book that the british entrenched the existing india car system was a way of organizing in people in the colonialism well look the question of organizing the indian people in some of their communities i think attempted other bearded unable to do but you're right categorize control classify this was important to the brit. certainly the map the census the museum were all instruments of colonial domination and showed it and they love him to his and we will use this really can use exactly so they actually did take we had castle we don't have a car system in the rigid hierarchical ossified sense that it became under colonialism so are you against party politicization of religion generally whether it be political islam or political hinduism that's what i'm against identity politics generally whether you want to keep up political fervor mobilize voters on

the basis of cost of creed of religion i think identity is the least interesting way to organize political contention we should have it's very powerful about ideas we should have arguments about ideology we should be have arguments about economics who's going to do most to give us a better life who's going to improve the education system who's going to defend our borders better those are legitimate grounds for argument but to say vote for me because i'm hindu or for me because we have the same caste i know it happens but doesn't mean i need to like it i don't and. so basically the way the entire hindu religion is organized could be under any political system whether it be capitalism feudalism or communism it doesn't matter it or any of it it should matter in fact the point is precisely that's true of any society on earth that the wind which you organize your soul should be distinct from hindu ism in any case could be fascist it could exist under fascism yeah but hinduism you see actually seized religion as

an intensely personal matter my father would pray every morning very development never obliged me once to join him the idea is that it's everything about religion is between you and your maker or whatever image of form of human could you wish to worship or not that amount of choice is intrinsic to hindus so that kind of hammer all of that in into some sort of narrow street jacket of uniformity that's not something that's truly hindu or tall and that's where the political movement called hindutva which is. the ideology of the of the ruling party today and those forces supporting it that dismays me a great deal because in fact you can take such a vast capacious accepting diverse all encompassing religion and reduce it to the team identity of the british football hooligan which is what frankly some of the goons who are the federal travellers of the hundreds of movement today are doing some studies say that comment on violence is up thirty percent under and or modi do

you see any signs of optimism in recent months lessening of this identification of in do with whom. and the hindutva movement central tenets with the ruling of india political the problem unfortunately is that communal and identity politics seems to get turned on and off when it suits those in power when the economics is doing well they'll talk about that when the government's doing badly they'll turn up the volume as it were of the common a loudspeaker in order to polarize voters on the grounds of religion so i can't be complacent or even optimistic the battle stopped happening those who are in power today started off very much on the hindutva bandwagon mr modi won the last election with a significant upper layer as it were of economics of saying i will permit willems word or absolutely but but but it's also true that the economics has not been well

managed and as a result the country is not as well off as the dreams mr moody and his colleagues manage to sell to the voters the big risk therefore is it may turn around and once again we pump communal sentiment in order to compensate for the deficiencies of their economic performance in what is going well we invite the indian ambassador on to. give a challenge that thank you very much as you are thank you i should talk. about it for one of your favorite shows of the season will continue to show your favorite episodes and the way back for season one wins if there's a template to lead the country about by a social media user. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would

prefer and it means to win the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict just found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying the is just no way to present and that we hear even many victims' families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victim's families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't their way. out what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line. to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president or injury. or something i want to be

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local who says your money doesn't. give us all that. it should be but still. i know we're going to this. was the cut was also topping me in my life. i seen long have to die. and the a nazi rally in causes that rage in store comin is met with counter protests it does come just weeks before sweden's general election in which the issue of immigration has taken center stage meanwhile the latest polls from brazil to the former leader leaders to silva return to the presidency that despite him being in

jail than fall doldrums appears intent on when you try talks in china beijing has reportedly decided to blights until after the midterm elections amid all the current tool of impeachment. oh well it's good to have you company watching r.t. international now with a general election on the horizon in sweden tensions have been growing on the streets of the capital on saturday hundreds of members of an e n r c movement rallied in central stockholm and were met by outraged counter protesters refreshing or was there. we are in central stockholm right now in sweden at the gathering of nordic resistance movement in the tabloids and nordic organization but here in sweden it's

also a political party and they are running for the upcoming elections here in the country as sad that this gathering is a chance for them to make their message heard our message today is that we want to take back to conquer from the traitors in the parliaments in twenty and thirty percent of the inhabitants of us europeans twenty and thirty percent it's already too late for just stopped immigration we must take them back the politicians within the government today they are traitors towards our people because among many all their fairness they open our borders sign for. for a year millions of me and you're. holding the long wrong. road we will become a minority in our own the don't forget that even longer on that we will cease to exist as a supreme just meters away from where nordic resistance movement that is gathered

there around there is another gather rancor. you can see there are just three things citizens who came here to challenge to. protest. this shouting right now no not so now it's three. zero zero zero. zero zero zero zero zero. why did you gather here today. because we are against this we're against the nicest men racists and so. we think this is really really all for this is happening stuck on now they. are about in a closed society but they take they shown the. in the open society. incredible i just had a chance to speak to the leader of the nordic reasons movement and he told us that larry did a great thing for german people. there was definitely a very very good person for the german people definitely. the free germany it's

disgusting and he i i would say that i'm almost lacking words here not beleaguered to say doctor to close it i mean that must be cause for the police to intervene. took ninety five percent of my family to guess and burn so we go in how mentioned elections in two weeks are hard time for any country and as they say here everybody wants to be on the streets these days to make their voice heard preproduction and r.t. from stockholm in sweden. and as mentioned there another rally was held on saturday to a march by workers unions to find out more to go to his twitter feed and also for updates from sweden the head of the election. but it's not only protests that have shaken sweden of late because the string of arson attacks rocked the country with authorities describing them as organized and also prepared police said that up to

one hundred cars were damaged or destroyed earlier this month most of them in sweden second biggest city of gothenburg. thank. you well police have so far arrested three suspects over the motives for the attacks is not known some media reports politicians to blame the social democrat party suggesting the incident would benefit the party's anti immigration starts. while brazil's presidential election is about a month away but the man leading the polls there does face

a big hurdle that's because little silver the former president is currently in jail with more on this is within a quarter of a. brazil's presidential election is looming and the latest polls to show one clear favorite and he is a familiar face lula da silva is can paint has all the regular features rallies full of adoring supporters was. merchandise branding his name and the must have contained ads set to traumatic music. show but he's going to refuse. to discuss it. if you think that becoming educated but here's the twist mr silva is currently serving a twelve year sentence for corruption still that hasn't stopped his ringing political aspirations and his party registered him for the race days before his

imprisonment the law told r.t. about his intentions will but did ok you'll phrase it my party wants me to run for president they support my candidacy and i'm ready to do it and win the election. before handing himself over to police in april two thousand since the former president supporters formed a human shield around the building he was and claiming the charges were politically motivated he was convicted of trading feet first with a construction company in exchange for the promise of a beachfront apartment a former metal worker himself leila became a hero of the working class as the economy soared during his eight years at the helm finishing back in twenty eleven. i although for sound has become associated with the barrage of political scandals that have hit brazil corruption was rampant all over people in the workers' party were corrupt that used again very flimsy trumped up charges of being corrupt but it was the

entire political system so yes the population obviously. ever meant in power when there is rampant corruption but the corruption was all the political parties and looking at his present selves busy visiting schedule taking his plans seriously just this week he was reported to you visited by the had of brazil's most powerful trade union and his face presidential running mate brazil's thirty fifth president currently occupies a fourteen square meter room and has reportedly allowed to wear his own classing his sad to have his own t.v. and attract mail where he jocks for miles daily still it's a long shot even full low level convicted felons are banned from running for office and electoral court is expected to declare him in alledge of zero in coming weeks lou is not going to be able to run what he's trying to do is to increase as much as possible support for the workers' party and then so he wants to keep that alive his

candidacy is live for as long as possible and then at the last minute or when his no longer possible transfer all of that support that he is building up currently so his vice presidential running mate running mate which is his favored candidate to replace him if he can't run and again that fernando who was a the mayor of san pablo and is not popular at all while things look unpredictable now one thing a certain election season and brazil has an incentive twist just yet and in a question now r t o x presents lloyd to tell us that litter the silver is it ching to get back on the campaign trial. it is hard of course he's in prison. during the weekends for instance using nice elation because there's no contact even with any of his lawyers he's not allowed to have contact with his family there and he's only allowed. visitation sprue week. friends it

is hard but he's writing a lot he's sending directions in writing of course it is hard because he's not he's doesn't have access to interviews he's not able to answer any of the exemptions that other candidates may make against him is not able to defend himself to tour the country which is what he really desires to be with the people and to explain his age and he's you know new ideas of for the future of the country. then other news them i can cry sis is once again causing divisions within with italy now threatening to halt its payments to the broke it does come after a sleeve refused to allow a migrant ship to call a to dock in sicily while demanding. more of the burden because the e.u. does not respect agreements and does not meet its commitments we as a political force are no longer.