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as with links to the counter intelligence community anonymous sources according to anonymous washington post source we may not even have those to rely on according to the new york times they've gone to ground gone quiet what's happened there could be a couple of reasons it's ok the times reassures us they've not been killed and aren't at risk yet although says the article putin is intent on killing traitors and the russians are willing to kill sources perhaps they say the assassination attempt on double agent so i guess scrap al has affected flows of intelligence as with the meddling accusations minimal evidence was also enough to expose the kremlin's hand in that case russia has long arms russia has lots of tentacles we imagine that they will continue to have an interest in our elections but also many other nations elections as well we continue to see a pervasive measures in messaging in pain by russia to try to weaken
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and divide united states intelligence blackout could also be down to a fall in u.s. operative numbers in russia the russians kicked out a whole bunch of our people laments a former cia officer a reference of course to moscow's retaliation after dozens of russian diplomats were first expelled from the united states the russian meddling saga even has the us president himself worried i'm very concerned that russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming election based on the fact that most president has been tougher on russia than me they will be pushing very hard for the democrats they definitely don't want trump. but those are named officials can explain the logic the kremlin doesn't want to specific outcome any more broad chaos is apparently the aim despite no hard evidence of meddling past or future it seems the narrative is getting old are named sources can only sound convincing for so
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long no no the rusher informants they were definitely in the u.f.o. crashed or was a meteorite this is so confusing what the media told us imagineer of france whisper in the ear of the new york times sources see your times makes up stories but what if as analysts anonymous sources allege russia isn't busy tilting elections sowing discord or spreading chaos what if russia isn't doing anything at all that would never make a thrilling read. french president emmanuel necron has set his plans for europe's defense speaking to the country's ambassador three underlined the region security can no longer rely so heavily on the u.s. . the problem it can no longer rely solely on the united states receipt curacy sent to us today to take responsibility and guarantee european security and
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consequently european sovereignty. let's go live now to our deep end ski who's in paris to charlotte good to see you can you tell us more about what prompted mccracken's words. well he was giving his annual big foreign policy speech to france's ambassadors who will now go off across the world to take up their positions hopefully be singing from the hague same hymn sheet news this speech do is to push some of these ideas which talk about a closer cooperation in europe and one of those things for closer cooperation that he believes is necessary is a clue said defense force here in europe something he's talked about several times before the reason he highlighted in this speech today is speak this he said that europe can no longer rely on the having its security from the united states now mr michael went to outline a number of crimes to the united states which are very similar to gripes that the
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european union has with the united states and particularly the trump administration this things such as the trade wars that we've seen in recent months this is the high king of steel in alimony and tariffs with countries around the world and big organizations such as the european union and also the fact that the trumpet ministration his withdrawal from the paris climate accord it's also withdrawn from the iranian nuclear deal and of course there has been doubts from the trumpet ministration particularly from president trump himself over nato itself which is the security force that binds the u.s. and europe now he's talked in the past saying that he thinks the u.s. is doing too much so all of these concerns have prompted mark can say we can't now rely on the u.s. the security we have to do some. thing about it ourselves what is that well he's talked about this closer defense cooperation here in europe but he's also said that europe needs to look beyond its borders and to look to other countries such as
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russia in the future. but for simply reinforce solidarity would imply revisiting the european architecture of difference in security by new new dialogue on cybersecurity chemical weapons conventional weaponry territorial conflicts security the protection of the polish zone sympatico with russia i want to launch exhaustive reflection with our european partners in a broad sense with russia as. well mr mcewan said that reaching out to russia would rely on one thing and that would be the full implementation of the peace agreement this is the conflict in parts of ukraine the kremlin has said previously that it is reason full implementation of the. peace agreement should be implemented what is interesting though is whether or not people will be listening to my speech he gave a very similar speech
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a year ago where he called very similar things but at the time he was still riding high in the popularity stakes we know that here at home in france at the moment he sees some of the lowest polls of his presidency and we're also seeing more and more people not happy with this idea is of course you're up as the feeling that he is not necessarily representing the views of the people across europe so many people may in fact look to ignore this speech. solid thank you for those details are solid speaking to us live from paris. now to u.s. nationals in vietnam have been sentenced to fourteen years in prison over an attempted coup they were among twelve people sentenced all of them members of the provisional national government to vietnam which was just declared a terrorist organization but the country's authours he's back in january the war in vietnam ended more than four decades ago but apparently for some the struggle goes
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on. the vietnam war one of the world's bloodiest conflicts and the american army's biggest defeat to ideologically opposed blocks in two decades of fighting came at a cost of fifty six thousand u.s. troops in a bid to overthrow the communist regime of north vietnam but the casualties among civilians were much greater at least two million people died in the wall. after hopes of tightening a democratic grip across the vietnamese state slipped away and up to one hundred forty one billion dollars was spent on military operations the us folded to what had been an exhausting rule at home and abroad. in one nine hundred seventy three thousands of antiwar protesters would later contribute to the end of u.s. military involvement and two years later the south surrendered with vietnam forced to unite under
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a socialist flag. however it would take years for vietnam to heal from the wounds of the us campaign. napalm bombs and toxic herbicides left the country scarred. and its citizens suffering. fast forward to twenty eight and us finance relations have turned a new leaf. even prospering. however there are some people who can't let go of the past among them the provisional national government of the third republic of vietnam most of them share one thing in common they all supported or fought for the south vietnamese army and had to flee when the war ended in one nine hundred seventy five they dream of a regime they never had a chance to see. and they're proactive about sharing their agenda they have their own prime minister and even newspapers about their cause printed in japan malaysia and thailand recently they've caught the attention of more global audience is. the
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ministry of public. security should announce the organization of the provisional national government of vietnam as a terrorist organization. they planned to buy weapons in an attempt to carry out terror attacks but their plots were uncovered and they were arrested by vietnamese security forces. twelve members were charged with subversion attempting to broadcast anti state messages described as a coup two of those behind it were american nationals of vietnamese descent. has been revealed they open the pan letters to the u.s. president with a even based in california it may be almost half a century since the end of the vietnam war but under the surface there are still rumbling with some still willing to fight for a cause they never saw come to fruition. but for just one of the two u.s. nationals sentences hung james knew and the u.s.
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embassy in vietnam has released a statement saying it will continue to provide him support some locals say the queer people almost too just doesn't understand times have changed. only. this reactionary group which carries out acts of sabotage against the vietnamese government is deplorable the government is determined to maintain peace and stability so that the country can develop and prosperity be brought to the people the group's members should not delude themselves into thinking what they do is right what they don't understand that times have changed they don't understand the position of they put themselves in when they conspired against a country that i think the sentences were too lenient. what about this very shot back.
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you know world big partisan movie lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bats and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. with all make this manufactured consensus seem to have public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. with the famous merry go round lifts only the one percent. we can all middle of the room sick. in the real news room.
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welcome back the german foreign minister says the e.u. to review its policy is towards the us and not have washington sanctions against a number of foreign states. we must adapt our politics to fit the new reality we must take in washington is a new attitude into account that formulating our foreign policy this means that europe must take more responsibility for its own security we have to be ready in case europe and america go their separate ways. where the us crosses red lines we as europeans must counter-balance as hard as that is it is indispensable that we strengthen european autonomy by creating payment channels that are independent of
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the united states the european monetary fund and the independence with system the global payments network known as swift is used by eleven thousand financial institutions in two hundred countries they claim is political neutrality but has apparently caved in to american pressure in the past after washington done to the iran nuclear deal and reimposed sanctions swift had a clear choice cut off iranian banks from its systems or face an asset freeze travel bans and restrictions on its business in america but the e.u. has said it still committed to be a rainy and deal without the us we are determined to protect european economic operators in legitimate business with iran this is why your opinions updated blocking statute enters into force under seven of august to protect e.u. companies doing legitimate business with iran from the impact of u.s.
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extraterritorial sanctions we believe that it is and it has to be up to the europeans in this case to decide with home to treat. all are joined by big john to have a thoroughly member of the deal and party who's in hamburg germany mr thomas early thank you for coming on the program for us now hike on mars his words were far stronger just a few days ago what does this change in rhetoric tell us. well i would be among the first to applaud him if it was more than just a change in rhetoric but so far we have seen little sign of it because he has been talking about it in alliance with canada and european union countries but if he were to really challenge us hagin money then he would have to include other european countries such as russia as well. i want your opinion about the ways out of this crisis suggested. well of course if you
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could build a new monetary system then you would have the way to challenge the power off the u.s. but that can only be done if you include russia if you include china and other countries and so far he has not been willing to do that. if we were to create an alternative to the swift payment system i mean first of all is that a toll possible and is it possible to do it quickly enough to minimize the financial risks it would be tough because right now most of the transactions in the world are going through this with payment system but if you could include major countries then in a short timeline you could at least take some of the transactions off and by doing so it could take some of the pressure from countries such as iran and from
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companies that are doing countries doing business with countries such as iran. one of the possible options does the e.u. have to protect the iran deal now. i don't think there are any options i think the deal is in a very critical phase right now if you look at the situation in iran then the government is split whether to continue with the deal or whether to renegotiate with other countries or maybe even to restart the nuclear program so i think the european union is in a bind and it has to consult with its allies such as russia and china who have been part of that deal do you think they will confront the u.s. with physical action and not just words. i'm very doubtful on that because as my cherished colleague d.m. has said has in the past only been a well paid prosecutor of nato and i have nothing to add or substract from that
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comment so what does this mean for the future u.s. relations well if that were to be followed through then we could see different states of relations but we are now in a very early stage and my pocket is of course very much in favor of such a realignment john to have a soul a member of the dealing capacity is a gemini thank you for joining us on the international today thank you we can have your say on all of our stories by following us on social media and even your comments so if we can follow the latest in about thirty minutes we'll see that. venezuela's got a lot of oil but there are a refinery and this is tanks of oil you know they're trying to levers our oil
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position and throw the machinations of a crypto currency you know my suggestion is you know maybe build a few refineries you know sell a higher end product and put that money back into the economy in this way may take ten or fifteen years but you're not going to be now taken over by some cia operative. has been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten thousand dollars more in tamping each did. eighty five percent of global will you want to be rich eight point six percent market saw thirty percent minus one is your home with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and one rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need
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remember it's one one distance showed you know forward to miss the one and only boom boom. welcome to. not say hiroshima suffered the horrific a consequence of a nuclear blast and not a chilling a global struggle to abolish the all clear weapons altogether will it succeed or talk to him to his governor of japan's hiroshima prefatory. seventy three years off to the world food the devastating effects of nuclear weapons the global new cure all small group with. warheads ready to wipe civilization off the planet can humanity afford to rely on field of mutually
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assured destruction to keep peace is the drive to get rid of nuclear weapons realistic and all the mysteries of the regime are remembered well enough today. and exactly really great to have you on our program welcome to thank you very much so. a lot so relevant issues to discuss with you. so far your country is the only country that has suffered from the use of the nuclear weapons so it is understandable why japanese people are so adamant on abolishing nuclear arms. but you say that those advocating nuclear disarmament are realistic. you really think so i mean how realistic because nuclear states including your biggest partner united states opposed that well i say. realistic because. or argument or. you know the
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goal for abolishment of nuclear weapons is based on the reality of what happens to beings. it's use when it's actually used so we know the reality of the use of it and sometimes. you know deterrence or strategy they're all discussed on paper you know there's certain assumptions there's certain assumptions. this number if we have this number you know two. actions in sitra. you know other two. but. mostly it's perception idea based. no standing there
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are you talking about those who are actually supporters of the terror but i mean we didn't have a war for the last seventy years thanks to terrance you don't think that's reason enough to think that that's a good thing you know well deterrence no this war no having a war or no having a large number of casualty is not necessarily just because. u.s. and russia you know as a country has. nuclear weapons there are so many other factors that. deter the war. well i'm talking about you know. nuclear deterrence in deterrence is something that's probably necessary. but i'm talking about nuclear deterrence what. i did the value of nuclear
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deterrence. you know to conventional deterrence in other deter so all of this fact that it should never ever take place because it's so horrid that no one would ever want to have that ever happen again but done is based on the assumption that there is no mistake there is no misjudgment there is no accident you know there are a lot of assumptions that current. you know deterrence is based on. historically actually it's been proven wrong you know there has been many accidents. many misjudgments almost lead to actual nuclear war which is really risky situation so this nuclear powers that the global powers at this point they're all very wary of each other that's why they
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don't really want to give up their nukes how do you see this technically happening if they were ever to happen like they all should give it up at the same time. well of course the process need to be carefully designed and i don't think it's going to happen tonight that horrible night. so what we need. to seriously look into. and of course the situation is very different in regions deterrence against what you know already did turn against him where. is a very important question and you have to. you know dig into details and try to come up with the process. in each situation to reduce nuclear weapons and finally eliminate it you've said it yourself what is
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different they all have their reasons and yet nuclear weapons are only a manifestation of global political problems that each country has can you really sickly get rid of the nuclear weapons without addressing those problems because you know they're intertwined together i mean pakistan is afraid of a bigger india and doesn't want to be the next i'd say israel is surrounded by hostile arab states so unless you address those political problems you can't really talk about getting rid of nukes well no i don't think so. first you know deterrence is nuclear deterrence is different from deterrence so we're talking about nuclear deterrence and the added value of nuclear deterrence and if you carefully look into each. you know situation.
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we should be able to find new equilibrium. you know strategy strap stability is equilibrium in game theory. and there is a multiple. possible multiple equilibrium usually and based on conditions or assumptions. and. if we could find the way to move that you know equilibrium to other position which is less costly or namely equilibrium with a nuclear weapon. much more economical. probably this risk so what i'm saying is why. not we just say all because we have this conflict. having nuclear weapon is
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something. that you've taken granted taken us granted but this look for ways. with or you know the ways to move the seeker leaving them to a new one you know and of course i say it's easy. and there are some measures probably. multiple party. needs to agree upon. but i don't think you've seen possible we just have to make the air force what do you think of the nuclear weapons ban treaty adopted by the united nations can it ever go beyond declaring intent to actually have an actual impact but it's true that nuclear weapons countries must be involved in the process otherwise i mean it's only the nuclear weapon countries that can reduce or
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. eliminate nuclear weapons so finally they have to be involved and it's you know about the process again you know how we involve the nuclear weapon states so you have this in this. global peace plan in motion and i looked at it and i have to say that i admire the idea of it. as your devotion to. do you have my doubts about how to promote what you stand for i mean conferences and rock concerts you know i cover politics a lot of wars a lot and no peace doesn't come through concerts and conferences so. how do you make sure that. in fact through this program. you should be aware that something comes through music concerts to you that i agree so you know those
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activities. you know there's some activities that are targeted at public you know like increasing public awareness or is some of the. more experts. like round table talk we have been here a few months. talk among experts and polish policy makers. about what we can do so. we think. the final goal of course is to eliminate nuclear weapons but. who. eliminates it. is actually the leader of the new good working country in the structure that supports the leader. like the bureaucracy in the expert system and also
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public. the basic foundation for the system so we are trying to. find ways to reach in each you know how effective each action. we have to try many things is you know this is very complicated and very significant issue so it doesn't happen. again you know. so we're trying to do. whatever we can in the find more effective way. to achieve a goal we're going to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to governor you jackie will discuss more who is right to be high.

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