tv Cross Talk RT August 28, 2018 11:00pm-11:30pm EDT
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the incident occurred last friday in a city less than fifty kilometers from san francisco a local place responded to the call of a fourteen year old go who said a man was holding her in a car against her well when officers arrive to twenty two year old man tried to escape but was detained place put him face down on the pavement and ordered him to show his hands the man was hiding one of his arms into the body motivating officers to use force as fellow place explained to the local press the incident has provoked a wide range of reactions the police are not judges or juries nothing just defies that abuse don't know what that good deed but she didn't deserve to get all window or hope someone gets whatever the issue ees a was and once he comes there is no reason to keep being him he kidnapped someone's
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child his intentions toward that girl are far worse than being beat up by police and his statement to the media a valet a place captain explained his colleague's actions were appropriate for the circumstances he added this off to handcuffing the suspects offices refrained from using extra force. or we can now discuss this further in cross live to michelle gross from communities united against police brutality michelle lovely to have you on the program first of all what's your reaction to these police officers actions where they appropriate to new opinion. i don't believe they were first of all every police department virtually every police department in the united states has that you are not to use a flashlight as an impact weapon it's really outrageous to hit someone with a flashlight because the kind of damage that those large mag lights can do is
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tremendous i mean they could have fractured his. backbones they could have fractured his ribs things like that those those are really dangerous weapons and no police departments in the country as far as i know allowed those weapons those flashlights to be used as impact weapons and so i was really quite perturbed by that i was also very concerned about the fact it looked like some of the hitting continue after he was handcuffed they also you know it looked like he was hurt pretty badly because they literally almost had to drag him to the car like he was having difficulty getting out his feet and being able to walk so i don't think i think it did look ok excessive force and i know one of your. what are your listeners. you know what he might have been doing with that girl or whatever but we don't know that that he is the person and be we don't know that he did
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anything wrong i mean he gets to go to trial he needs to be arrested and get the opportunity to go in front of a judge and go to trial to find out if you did something wrong we don't just discipline people in the streets that we think are not people we like or whatever it's not the way we do things well why do you think cases of using excessive force by police seem to be on the increase. you know a big part of it is the fact that there's no discipline or cow ability when these incidents do happen virtually every officer has something like this go on gets let off scot free there's little accountability and you could already tell in this case that the police chief is defending these officers and so we know in this case again there will be no accountability for this conduct even though this almost certainly has to be a policy violation minimum well we also saw in the video that the detaining did
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resist arrest but what do you think would be a proportionate response by arresting officer if. well they could have use a taser on him they could have used a night stick they couldn't use their own hands what they shouldn't have been doing is hitting it with a flashlight to get those flashlights are dangerous and we have worked up a number of cases in which people have actually sustained permanent brain injuries from being hit in the head with those flashlights those are dangerous objects they are not to be used to to apprehend a criminal i mean they're they're they're what they're what they're for is you know to shed light in a situation where officers go into a dark space they can use a flashlight to see but they're not supposed to be used as impact weapons and again virtually every police department has country has a policy against that and i'd be very surprised if this vallejo department doesn't have a policy i tried to look at their policies online they didn't have them on line but
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i'm certain that this must be a policy that they have as well and you know it's that is about a lation thank you for sharing your thoughts on the issue that michelle cross from communities united against place for telling me thank you thank you for having me. protests in chairman ia continuing following a right wing march in kenneth's which scandalized the country around six hundred to for demonstrations and eighteen members of far right groups have faced off in cologne and over two thousand people marched through the streets of how big demanding a stop to fascism and racism in germany. could .
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some three thousand and ten pray migrant types of s. have clashed in the past two days in the german city of camden it's leaving twenty people injured as the unrest was prompted by the arrest of an iraq and a syrian following the stopping of a local man on sunday but paid to all of the reports from the latest from germany. well the state of saxony in the city of camden it's a firmly in focus across germany across whitey europe and even across the wider world this follows. a night of violence that we saw on monday evening thousands more that were expected. right wing demonstrators took to the streets of candidates and they were confronted by counter-demonstrators now that resulted in some violent scenes there. was.
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going up because we have seen afterwards is something that has no place in the constitutional state we've seen the videos the show has become a witch hunt a mobbing that there is hate on our streets was a car. that you should just and i was at the demonstration in chemist's on monday and the scene there was alarming what happened yesterday is that over a thousand demonstrators registered but it turned out that there were about eight thousand protesters in kemet. was. so decent. it was assumed from the beginning that there would be twice as many demonstrators as were registered but it turned out that there were about four times
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as many rightwing demonstrators as english the planet or those scenes were all sparked following the killing the stabbing to death of a thirty five year old man encampments in the early hours of sunday morning two men in their early twenty's one from iraq and one from syria were taken into custody we've heard from prosecutors that they've ruled out self defense in stopping in fact they're looking to pursue a charge of culpable homicide is. case now the scenes that we saw they really left people in the city of came that shocked at what it unfolded before their eyes between the people for immigration and. immigration. and that's a problem for our country or thirty years i have never seen any while in suggests refugees or have experienced anything like that. until the recent events
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here for it a bad situation my parents save don't go into city stay at home a lot of rubber trees came not from pantries there are wars that came from our locals they came from tunisia and that is a problem and that makes a crimes of twenty people including two police officers were injured in violence we also hear from the police that they're investigating ten people for having given the straight nazi salute during those clashes that is illegal here in germany. really monday night's violence really bringing the whole situation in the splits in german society firmly in focus as the right wing and the left wing of german society clashed in saxony. a scottish university set to hand out badges to its new students to spell out the pronoun they want to be named by the hay she or they tags are part of an effort to avoid so-called gendering the
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initiatives being proposed by a democracy university student union however it warns students should avoid using the term preferred pronouns arguing it's not a preference but an assessor. the issue of youngsters wanting to change gender has been increasingly staring controversy the u.k.'s women's minister. has expressed concern over the bribing number of minors now wishing to go through reassignment. i read in the paper recently that there has been a large increase in the number of teenagers who are identifying nest transgender and i think though we need to get down to the reasons why this is happening it may simply be a case of greater warn us he may be that for some they see it as an answer to questions they are perhaps not asking themselves we debated the issue with algae beatty activist pay to touch show and radio talk show host jon bonet. balik the
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purpose of these badges is just to raise awareness in particular to make transfusions and their friends and allies feel comfortable safe and accepted i don't think that's a terrible thing i think it's just a common human decency to become into i know that perfectly reasonable have made this decision what's not reasonable add on a minute where universities are trying to tell lecturers it happened at university of toronto of course famously with jordan peterson where they totally had should not use things like hello ladies and gentlemen hello boys and girls they had to fit into these new pronouns if they want to say today i'm a man tomorrow arm a boy the next hour my fridge freezer so bad but i don't have to fainter i don't want to get into a situation where i have to change pronouns i have to change the english language for a minority of very small minority they are attacking my freedom of speech my freedom of expression let's be reasonable if somebody feels they are you know being
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assigned the wrong gender they're in the wrong body i have enormous sympathy for them but we shouldn't be kind of i don't really want to use this word but encouraging it which is why edinburgh university is doing well no one is encouraging them and nor should anyone encourage them this is a call that's coming from the young people themselves whatever number of universities doing. if they have said people can change once one day to the next that's quite clearly absurd but here trans people do not choose to be trans they don't make this decision about gender reassignment really very very serious long protracted thought and indeed is often agonizing they face often rejection by their parents being thrown out of home and very high rates of suicide and attempted suicide so this is not a decision that a young person takes lightly and if they make the decision but they feel. or that
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they're one gender or another i think we should respect that i don't think it's a big deal to it's about common decency just about being kind and compassionate to other people so i don't agree with that part of same token they should respect our rights to have a different view and when you talk about this this is always brought than about trans in suicide it isn't because they're struggling with the fact they think they're in the wrong body that leads generally to the suicide it's aster when they realize they've made a dreadful mistake which is why the woman deserve minister or the education minister is right to say we need to look at why more and more young people are trying to go through this we need to look at why puberty blocking drugs are being handed out like smarties they don't know their own mind i agree with you peter it must be agonizing to needs time ministry thought about and they need to be of an age where they know that they are in the wrong body not giving them out to six year old eight year olds and ten year olds and you know that's happening peta is wrong
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trans people are reality they have existed since time immemorial who are throughout history i think the fact that there are more people coming forward is because there is greater social understanding and acceptance the stigma and guilt is fading away that issue has been discussed more openly and that is why more people are coming forward and of violence trans but it's still a tiny tiny minority a minority that is no threat to anyone and i think we should live and let live and except that people who are different for whatever reason including because the generosity that they have a place in the human family. a u.s. presidential candidate an award winning war correspondent and former trump advisor the u.k. opposition leader and a rock star on the face of it they went to pair to have all that much in common but according to one blog that all supporters of so-called aside of them john off
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explained. labeling people as in fashion has been for the past couple of years in fact populist mainstream deplorable blip or when it comes to syria and a scientist like a sadist a but it also supports the syrian president at least that seems to be the logic behind an index of names recently claude together i chose primarily this term rather than the narrower term pro assad because some of the public figures in this list explicitly deny being pro assad but still persistently repeat core lines of regime propaganda narratives steve bannon and glenn greenwald boris johnson norm chomsky let's say the chances of coming across any other list banding these people together are slim you public.
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