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while standing with their hands raised and later in the same week while leaning against the wall shot in the ankle and while rubber coated steel bullets are seen as not lethal the injuries they inflict can be severe particularly when fired at close range the forty three year old norwegian activist has been supporting palestinian protesters and what they described as occupation of their land by israel the israeli army told r.t. that force had been standing among rioters at the time who had been violent towards its soldiers and says it will investigate a force ourselves says that the palestinians are being subjected continually to violence i think is nearly one hundred people have been shot ribs in live ammunition over the years. hundreds have been shot by these bullets that i was shot with i've been to you guys they've had skunk water into their houses but they're not getting any attention the are here to witness what is happening and share it with the world and hopefully some someone will you know put some attention on them
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. the u.k.'s women's minister victoria atkins has been criticized by l.g. bt activist after expressing concern over the rising number of children now wishing to change their gender i read in the paper recently there has been a large increase in the number of teenagers who are identifying a search and i think we need to get down to the reasons why this is happening it may simply be a case of greater awareness in may be that they see it is an answer to questions they are perhaps not asking themselves. transgender issues are increasingly becoming raised in the u.k. with initiatives big laws to recognise the community's rights one recent example is at scotland's at a broad university where new students are being encouraged to wear badges with the words he she or they indicating how they want to be referred to the campaign is being run by the university's students' union is part of an effort to avoid
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so-called mis gendering however it says students should not use the term preferred pronouns emphasizing it's not a preference but rather a necessity we debated the issue with activist peter tatchell and radio talk show host john gaunt trans people do not choose to be trans they don't make this decision about gender reassignment career without very very serious long protracted thought and indeed is often agonizing they face often rejection by their parents being thrown out of home and very high rates of suicide and attempted suicide so this is not a decision that a young person takes lightly and if they make the decision but they feel that they are one gender or another i think we should respect that i don't think it's a big deal too it's about common decency just about being kind and compassionate to other people so i don't i agree with that but bought
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a same token they should respect our rights to have a different view and when you talk about this this is always brought the thing about trans and serious sides it isn't because they're struggling with the fact they think they're in the wrong body that they generally to the suicide it's asked when they realise they've made a dreadful mistake which is why the woman's minister or the education minister is right to say we need to look at why more and more young people are trying to go through this we need to look at why puberty brought king drugs are being handed out like small cities they don't know their own mind i agree with you peter it must be agonizing it needs time. i mean needs to be thought about and they need to be of an age where they know that they are in the wrong body not giving them out to six year old eight year olds and ten year olds and you know that's happening peter and it's wrong let's be reasonable if somebody feels they are you know being assigned the wrong gender they're in the wrong body i have enormous sympathy for them but we shouldn't be kind of i don't really want to use this word but encouraging it which
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is why edinburgh university is doing well no one is encouraging them and nor should anyone encourage them this is a call that's coming from the young people themselves whatever a university is doing. if they have said people can change once one day to the next that's quite clearly absurd but you know what if the purpose of these badges is just to raise awareness in particular to make transfusions and their friends and allies feel comfortable safe and accepted and as innocent terrible thing i think it's just a common human decency to become into i know that perfectly reasonable have made this decision what's not reasonable add on a minute where universities are trying to tell lecturers it's happened at university of toronto of course famously with jordan peterson where they told him he had should not use things like hello ladies and gentlemen hello boys and girls they had to fit into these new pronouns if they want to say today i'm
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a man tomorrow am a boy the next fridge freezer so they have but i don't have to fainter i don't want to get into a situation where i have to change pronouns i have to change the english language for a minority of very small minority they are attacking my freedom of speech my freedom of expression trans people our reality their existence since time immemorial who are throughout history i think the fact that there are more people coming forward is because there is greater social understanding and acceptance the stigma and guilt is fading away that issue has been discussed. more openly and that is why more people are coming forward and then to violence trans but it's still a tiny tiny minority a minority that is no threat to anyone and i think we should live and let live and except that people who are different for whatever reason including because their gender identity that they have a place in the human family i played more stories coming your way here on the
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program on r.t. international hope you can stay with us for one. let's say i'm not sure i get your. response. thank you for.
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the story that's right. good of you to join us today at least five people have been killed and thirty three wounded in libya amid fresh clashes between rival groups local militias and tribal fighters faced off in the streets of tripoli with pickup trucks mounted with machine guns several residential areas were hit by a shelling the clashes involve groups linked to the u.n. . has. been following the headlines about libya
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you've probably heard a lot about post-war problems migraines human traffickers the french president's attempts to restore order there except the war never really ended. in just two days of violent clashes in libya's capital tripoli the health ministry confirmed five fake tallies and thirty three injuries but that's just another bloody footnote in a country plagued by the instability of a post nato bombing regime right well this time not quite two warring factions the so-called seventh brigade and another group of hostile local militias they began throwing serious firepower at each other on sunday in areas densely populated by civilians and the kicker they both support the current u.n. backed interim libyan government which for its part simply tried to distance itself
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from the whole mess we were in these gangs and groups that have terrorized civilians and residents there is no space for such lawlessness and chaos despite a shaky cease fire brokered on monday the situation is still on doubted lee tense but it's hard to imagine how anyone in any country divided between so many political lines could hope for peace first of all three rival governments all claim control over the country there's the u.n. backed presidential council the rival government of national salvation and the so-called tobruk government let's not forget the various tribes and militias in libya which are always looking for a power grab and the icing on the cake is still remains a significant force in the country just last week they attacked a military checkpoint killing at least four people with such lawlessness and lack of any power capable of reigning in the violence pockets of fighting have been bubbling up over across libya this for example is the town of sabah it's
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essentially been reduced to rubble and although the cease fire there has been in effect for over two months already people haven't forgotten the violence i swear to god and producer of the war it was a time. of terror shells in more. than one show hit my house and my family is now displaced in the end this is the outcome before you it is the view that speaks not me the houses are all destroyed no water no electricity some electricity and water has been restored thank god and life will settle slowly it wasn't too long ago back during the libyan revolution when we heard western leaders using those same old promises of spreading freedom and democracy. you would get rid of a dictator and you would choose freedom. thank god. that is supporting the people of libya. future that is free and democratic and prosperous.
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seven years on from the west's empty promises and tripoli continues to awake amidst explosions for more than just one reason sometimes it's fighting and sometimes it's even fishermen using dynamite my wife and i enjoy the peace and quiet of friday mornings in our garden by the sea but the explosions as early as seven am remind us of all that is wrong in this country. but it shouldn't be much of a surprise especially in a country absolutely saturated by weapons my whole house and my old windows shake with every blast and i have to reassure my grandchildren that it's only people fishing not nato bombs all over again. a german mother has sparked controversy by posting a video on facebook after finding out how son was one of only two german speaking
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children at the kindergarten in the city of aston in that she says he feels like a foreigner in the copper mine is almost influence and there are twenty five children in my son's group two of them speak german the others don't speak german at all is it integration of twenty three children have fun with each other while my son doesn't understand them and can find any way to connect with them is that integration of my son has to adapt to them my son and i feel like foreigners here is that what you want to do politicians is this integration that other children seemingly don't have to adapt because they understand each other and now my son has to adapt to these other children this is not integration do politicians the parents of muhammad ali or whatever they're called to do not have to complain. she also stressed that she's not blaming the children of the day care center or their parents for the situation later she apologized for her comments but decided not to
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delete the video because it did go viral. to have an intimate so i have course i didn't expect such a storm of reaction i made this video had a very emotional moment i just wanted to share my frustration and never expected two million people to watch it i can only speak for myself it's a big problem in my city but many people have written to me and i learned that it's a country wide problem not just region and of course i believe that integration is very important but my son has known pretty to develop he should speak more german adapt to our culture and it doesn't work when there are almost no germans in the city has set this group up and nixed the children incorrectly and as a result will end up with lost children no one speaks german no one can integrate and this loss is on both sides i can see it in my son officials from the us and kindergarten and said that this is a special additional group created by the city to the lack of places and other kindergartens and german they insist is still a common language and children just need more time to adapt we spoke to bridge on
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top of solving from germany's left party thinks that the woman should look at this from another way consider it as an advantage for her son she has a very narrow minded approach and i don't want to judge sure but i don't know whether she has experienced other cultures and i think that's where her son who's going to this cannot has an advantage because he gets to know other cultures and other languages and it early age that an opportunity that she apparently didn't get there's not only children who cannot go on this educators german educators as well and it's their role to teach the children german language and german culture but i think children can also learn from each other nowadays in germany we're not in a country where only one language is spoken on the streets and where we only have one culture and one presumes we have all different kinds of cultures and in twenty years when those children will be participating in the labor market. things will
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hello and welcome to crossfire for all things considered i'm peter lavelle is the corporate mainstream media fuel america's cultural wars do they magnify political differences it would seem so how else could it be if the only topic that is discussed and argued over is donald trump or journalist infected with trump arrangement syndrome.
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cross talking trumped arrangement syndrome i'm joined by my guest rob taub in new york he's a political pundit and journalist contributing to the huffington post also in new york we have lionel he's a legal analyst and a news decoder at lionel media dot com and in plymouth we cross to patrick endings and he is a journalist and writer and founder of the news website twenty first century wire dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rolls in effect means you can jump in anytime you want lionel let me go to you you're also referred to on this program as fella my first question is here does the do the corporate mainstream you remember that program did that do they do the corporate mainstream media. do they contribute to the cultural wars it is divided and is everything is contentious as it really is or are they dismiss for their own political purposes go ahead lionel yes no yes no and sometimes the corporate first of all correction my dear friend it is not the mainstream media used to be that mainstream media used to be mainstream they're not
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this is the mainstream media social media different platforms that's mainstream they are an existential fight for their life so within the particular parameters of their working environment yes they. they mix it up and people describe the does the rest of that country mainstream heartland mainstream america care oh there you go so ok but ok but rob i mean i get we all can't linus' point but they still think of themselves as the mainstream and representing. the population what they really do is represent power particularly on the left i would say but i want to stay with this magnification here because if you look if you watch c n n n m s n b c and then you watch fox on the same evening you think you'd be in parallel universes i mean you really would have a sense that both are in some kind of never never land and having nothing to do
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with the world outside go ahead rob i was one of the token liberals on fox and at one point i think i made over two hundred. ten appearances on there over the course of a couple of years. there they were pursuing back then i think more of a fair and balanced attitude but now well i was always like the washington generals the team that never beaten the harlem globetrotters you know i was going in the know that and five other people were going to beat up on me but i was allowed to voice my opinion i don't really get that sense anymore i sense that the people that they pick to to give a liberal perspective are speaking of outrageous claims and comments and policies and they're taking an extreme so they can say hey look at this kooky liberal he is just like bernie sanders but but we also have a divisive president who has really that acrimony throughout the country and we
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have politicians on both sides that are taking more extreme points of view and you're going to have news shows and stations that are going to be representative of those those policies and beliefs and then those that those bases are going to go. and watch those particular stations and channels ok lionel doesn't agree but i'm going to go to patrick first here i mean rob brings up a really good point i mean donald trump by any any measure is a very contentious president i mean i i watch all of his towel his stadium appearances i mean he goes out there ok and his base likes it ok but he does give the mainstream of the liberal mainstream media or this c.n.n. and some b. c. the people like that he gives them a lot of cannon fodder to walk to work with patrick you know i think earlier your point it's essential crisis that the mainstream media is going through it's not just an existential crisis it's a financial crisis so what you have now is they've been forced to basically run
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click bait and if you talk about broadcast television it's one crisis after another or one sort of trump derangement crisis after another with the print with the washington post i get the daily alerts every day and michael cohen said this michael cohen said that steve benen is gardner heard him you know whatever singing russian in the shower so this is the daily sort of fodder because they can't they have to attract the audiences they have to get the clicks the very thing they accuse the independent media of the very thing they decry on social media they themselves are the worst offenders now so they need a crisis this is the sort of recurring theme with the mainstream media ok it's actually always been like that for many years to get a crisis if it's not political to be the way out but good but patrick going to let me go to lionel but i get what you're saying but what about a real crisis because a. sensibility stormy daniels isn't
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a crisis for me i could care less ok a creepy porn lawyer i could care less it's in one ear out the other and those are minutes of my life that i will never get back that's why i don't watch those stations here lionel you were disagreeing at some point go ahead jump in to my dear friend. the intellectually sapient mr tague i disagree in one respect what roger ailes di fox news as we knew it died absolutely die next with a d.c. fox merger does the right thing to me fox merger even though they swear that the news division is different you are seeing a watered down and the dying saccharin version of what was once fox at its and you can argue about this best and the like with all due respect also my dear friend peter what you like has nothing to do with what these people are interested in this is a twenty four seven runaway train that you want to be run away you have to keep
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feeding the boiler and you are pouring everything into it you have a newsroom with twenty something i'm sorry to say per d.m. folks who i have no journalistic ability know no experience of any kind of t.v. or whatever they're just there to click and just feed ok alison but now you know there's no room for correction but if i could narrow the point is here is this dividing the country i mean i understand how it's made and why it's made and i understand the bottom line here but it is dividing the country i mean jim acosta i mean what it describes journalism ok i mean and they probably think he's doing a great job rob if you were nodding your head go ahead he's not he's not defied ok ok go ahead go ahead rob jim acosta is not dividing that i'm sorry i'm sorry it's all right go ahead rob lionel consider this ok i'm going to start at the top with our esteemed president donald j. trump when you have a white house press pool they usually normally interact with the white house
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communications director who for quite a while was hopes hope picks the way it used to run and i was not of your trip to president obama only voted for him once jen psaki who was a communications director disseminate that information to her because. team the comms team then interacted with various people in the press pool and disseminate that information to them so they could write about it i don't think that's ever been done under trump so you have pressed people that sit around twiddling their thumbs sitting and fuming going what am i going to do what am i going to write about i think i'll say that trump is a jerk and that he's disorganized and he doesn't do anything read because that's what's going on that isn't needed comes to me has twitter hey that's my job to dinner let me go to patrick because you know we've got a job you can hang on hang on line him you know we've gone back and forth on this program with all of us all of us here about twitter and and it's got those pluses
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and minuses here but again the traditional mainstream media line oh ok this is where that creates an opening for them is well ok so you know these different strategies they have their pluses and minuses patrick go ahead and claim it. yeah i think you're kind of talking about two different things here but let's talk about social media for a minute because these are some of the you know same corporations that are now overlapping with broadcast media and with mainstream print and they're also working hand in hand with the first draft coalition all these sort of concepts to police fake news and so forth they're they're ideological you know in the united states and you know their ideological dependence is really on the state you know and i think this is the mainstream media's problem as well they need access to the state they need access to power they also need access to corporate money and hence they become a tool of government when they become a tool of corporate propaganda the same goes for the silicon valley facebook might
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be a democratic progressive in the united states but believe me they're absolutely colorblind internationally because they need access to all these markets so so i guess we're talking about media i think we can open up the conversation now a little bit more but but in terms of the united states unfortunately even if as your previous guest said they're going to be briefed by the white house team i think they would throw that briefing in the waste bin if they received it before from the you know the press pool received under this administration because they're hell for leather really just bent on you know having this president impeached yeah well that's a lie let me go to lionel before we go to the break here i mean you know i see ideological possession i mean it's a daemonic ok on am on c.n.n. an end and i say b.c. i mean it's it's the point of being irrational it's not even fun to watch anymore ice to poke fun at you know brian stelter i mean the stupidest guy on t.v.
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but at the even now that's not funny forty seconds before we go to the break. first of all i love you to dead i give you a kidney not mine but somebody else's if you needed it and i got it he wanted there are two things my friend and i want you living in the past you're living in the past you're talking about white house new pools what place is this is where paul wake up and over till you hate trial it can't you can't get past it ok whole grain old girl you're going to going to see you're going to say you know example of of ideological possession you know ok i. finished reading a lot of those called me kids once about two years older than me. twenty seconds lionel keep going. but it's true business is no twitter is look they told f.d.r. with the fireside chat you can't talk on the radio the presidential need i say more we've got to wake up and smell the coffee kids it's
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a new day ok i'm going to jump in here guys we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on trumped arrangement syndrome stay with our to. someone else still seems wrong but don't we all just don't. get to see palin just come out to. and it gets me you close to the trail. when something you find themselves pulls apart when you choose to look for common ground.

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