her columns team the columns team then interacted with various people in the press pool and disseminate information to them so they could write about it i don't think that's ever been done under trump so you have presently people that sit around for doing their thumbs sitting and fuming going what am i going to do what am i going to write about i think i'll say that trump is a jerk and that he's disorganized and he doesn't do anything i mean because that's what's going on that isn't needed commas to me has twitter ok that's why it's added dear let me go to patrick because you know we've got a job i think it has got going on line hand you know we've gone back and forth on this program with all of us all of us here about twitter and and it's got those pluses and minuses here but again the traditional mainstream media lionel ok this is where it creates an opening for them is well ok so you know these different strategies they have their pluses and minuses patrick go ahead and claim it. yeah i think you're kind of talking about two different things here but let's talk about

social media for a minute because these are some of the you know same corporations that are now overlapping with broadcast media and with mainstream print and they're also working hand in hand with the first draft coalition all these sort of concepts to police fake news and so forth they're they're ideological you know in the united states and you know their ideological dependence is really on the state you know and i think this is the mainstream media's problem as well they need access to the state they need access to power they also need access to corporate ties and money and hence they become a tool of government where they become a tool of corporate propaganda the same goes for the silicon valley facebook might be democratic progressive in the united states but believe me they're absolutely colorblind internationally because they need access to all these markets so so i guess we're talking about media i think we can open up the conversation now a little. more but but in terms of the united states unfortunately even if as your

previous guest said they're going to be briefed by the white house team i think they would throw that briefing in the waste bin if they received it before from the you know the press pool received under this administration because they're hell for leather really just bent on you know having this president impeached yeah well that's and let me go to lionel before we go to the break here i mean you know i see ideological possession i mean it's demonic ok on and on c.n.n. and then and it's n.b.c. i mean it's you know it's the point of being irrational it's not even fun to watch anymore i used to poke fun at you know brian stelter i mean the stupidest guy on t.v. but even now that's not funny forty seconds before we go to the break first of all i love you to debt i give you a kidney not mine but somebody else's if you need it and i got it he wanted there are two things my friend amber when you're living in the past and you're living in the past you're talking about why the house new polls what they say is this is

where i've always got ever tell you hate trial. you can't get past it ok well you've grown old don't think you're going to hear you're going to say an example of of ideological possession you know ok i think that. kind of created a lot of them called me here's one sort of two years older than me. twenty seconds lionel keep going. but it's true this is no twitter is look they told f.d.r. with the fireside chat you can't talk on the radio the presidential need i say more we've got to wake up and smell the coffee kids it's a new day ok i'm going to jump in here guys we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on trumped arrangement syndrome stay with our to.

what politicians to do something to. put themselves on the line. they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. for something i want to. let you go on. to say what. are you people. i'm interested always in the water. became a camera. roughly once they showed some loose leaf for the. future videos and so on with the broken string of. down more on string i don't

really don't t.v. . you know world's big partners through things. and consumers it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door on the bad and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. welcome back to cross talk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing trump derangement syndrome. ok i want to go back to rob in new york and i want to ask you all the same question

a hypothetical rob hypothetical situation bladder me or putin in the kremlin. media ops they get together and they start attacking donald trump how long will it take this for c.n.n. and m.s.n. b.c. to join in all of sudden wow glad it was on our to slide now ok i'm asking this seriously ok go ahead what kind of a tag is this going to be your foot soldiers marching marching up our shores or as now know it all right no no no no no no no no i'm media taxing he's not a reliable partner we can't work with him we can't work with him ok ok that's what i'm getting at ok and i and i'm sure the left would be all over it in a heartbeat keep going rob. no i don't think that's going to happen think they're going to say see how how fickle they are now they've got her against donald trump and this is a key component hypothetical hypothetical well i don't. brian stelter is

not even going to put up for that as long as there is a story there or we're going to milk it ok patrick i just i think you guys are grasping at straws here no no no i'm trying to make a point here and i it's a valid point i think is well all right i'll come on line i'll have a little bit of fun you know you're acting like you know what was his name you're acting like you're acting like senator dole right now get off the grass ok that's right confounds me chattering let me go to you as hard patrick patrick again what i'm just saying is that anything i know no matter how bizarre and how you know out of the park it is they will pick up on this ok because they have picked up on every single else real false imagined and run with it like fools they would do it again patrick. russia versus trump does that hypothetical peter liberals love during

hypotheticals by the way. i'm just going to say yes peter one hundred percent really one hundred percent they would open up a shrine to vladimir putin outside cnn's offices in atlanta they would start rachel maddow would go to saudi and start doing fluff videos about what a great holiday destination it is that's what would happen because media. is colorblind the sense don't go to where the political with the political power is so you know i don't think i don't think i think they would pivot it would definitely because it was i don't want to get rid of trump and i think the right of trying to write enemy of my enemy that friend that is exactly right that's what i'm getting at here are i'd line up pretty please come out of your hole now and you can answer the question my friend. he's been so can reveal to you i know i know and you think he's in a good you know he's in a good mood today ok keep going on where you take a happy pill though you're a genius first of all you confound poor talib with their hypothetical you mean it's

not what's a hypothetical right listen what you're doing is terrific what you're saying i don't have any of that have you already is there on this really well that's that's really all you've heard this is ever heard says cross i just crossed off into saurus edition ok go ahead lie all right. that's what the policy of a ground war or the war of sorts of sorrows but i digress come on please you're what you're by your erosion of my time and let's assume this so that i'm reporting tomorrow comes out let's say worse than that leavelle might say he places facebook ads now imagine something that shows eight to say something negative against something now most people would say the left is the prototypical fascist corporate left would say wait a minute how can we agree with them now when we did the like of a week ago the enemy of my enemy is my friend are we going to be that craven that that that venal i go along with him or you must or you know he's lying only it

makes her do what time i hear again links it makes perfect sense because liberals used to believe in civil liberties two years ago they don't anymore paul man or ford ok i mean for tax evasion the average person convicted of tax evasion go to jail for a year now paul minor party faces three hundred years ok what happened to the liberals ok but you still believe in the civil liberties they gave him and i. all right got an ostrich coat i think i'm there so i how many aggie i'll tell you how you will hide it out of the guy the explanation line is very easy there ideologically possessed they've lost their marbles rob give me a hypothetical peter that the tickle of rachel maddow went to went to so she died mysteriously in some kind of viking accident that's what would happen if they disappear her oh yeah i just don't see it as a viable thing. you know but all

a lot of relief wouldn't be on the happy about it. rachel maddow i would sort of say i love it and i had a lot of that is the talk of it is hard patrick but you with your analogy back it up ok you get a break she could do a cameo in a pussy right video doing some toss ups are showing up and down and you know it but overt no pornography no pornography sorry and i don't know what's going on that would be as peter peter the point is you're right ten or twenty years ago they would have rallied around the president in that scenario but we we are not in that time anymore now there is a kind of a political ideological obsession a fetish if you will and a total derangement to get this rid of this president so what might have been true twenty years ago is not have wouldn't happen now in that sense yeah the media is completely out of it's out of history in that sense but i think the point is as well that you're not going to get any political objectivity from this mainstream

media and in a sense they're going to hand donald trump reelection in two thousand and twenty if they continue down this road i think it's wishful thinking that they'll be able to personally that they'll be able to impeach the president if they win the midterms but the media is just going absolutely nuts in the run up to the midterms with with all these are going to ramp it up and it's just going to go a nice high and unfortunately it's kept this russia gate nonsense going here go ahead lionel peter let me assume argue and go that i was going to ask you a hypothetical question or a rhetorical question watch todd's face now but do you think these democratic folks recognize that if for some reason under the rules if trump is removed mike pence is the president do you think that and they're saying that they're verily ok but you would never even fly out of here absolutely are successful you're absolutely right but this again kind of confirms i guess what most of us are saying here and most

viewers that are watching this program they don't think these. things through very well do they ok i mean that's why it's called trump to reign over the senate a mob was because well no i mean. mike my pants wouldn't bother me and i said it ok please do well first of all i'm going i'm going to kind of side with this with patrick and lionel here. the liberals have over promised and under delivered and then promising and peach meant they've been promising the end of trump every day and people are tiring of it. and it's beginning to make them look a little ludicrous where where is this impeachment where is this end of trump you've been telling me about for months and i see it more than anywhere remarkably on facebook with different journalists i know who shall go on named their one of the most rights q. the jaws theme all over killing the jaws of them so much that the cello guy's

fingers are probably broken by now and it's just not whether it deserves to happen or not it's not happening soon it hasn't happened and they've shot themselves in the foot in that regard you know so i don't know is this in agreement with lionel and i think i well yeah i think we're in broad agreement here with patrick the thing is though in the time from the campaign to inauguration to the president going to green with rabin i mean they've always looked for the end of something the end of the end of this administration you know impeachment but because they are so focused on that they haven't thought about anything else to run on and so they're going to run on hating trump and if you look at the public opinion polls i mean what is it eighty eight percent eighty to eighty eight percent of republicans are staying with the president you know after you know ninety eight percent of the airwaves a barrage against one man i've never seen it in my life i mean it's all about one

man all of the time it's really exhausting because i like you i'm a policy guy the rest of it is kind of like tinder to entertainment ok go ahead patrick you know the problem is while they're going crazy trying to come up with the latest sort of gotcha for donald trump and there's like one there's multiples story lines every day that are being invented along those lines while they're doing all that the world's turning the world is moving on the united states has business to do is a country. and i'll extend this i think the mainstream media are going beyond partisanship and sort of the democrat party and sort of the never trumpets for that matter they're undermining of the actual business of the united states i can't imagine more of an unpatriotic thing they might think that they're saving the world from a russian invasion or something like this but the fact the matter is they're undermining the u.s. credibility internationally they're keeping the u.s. from from doing its business internationally and on a diplomatic level and also on and other levels internationally in international

relations so that's the real damage that i think i think i'd like you said peter you said the begin to show that domestic politics is shaping international politics and they used to not be the way it is now and that's really dangerous you know line and it's getting censured of what patrick was saying there is that this whole obsession here it's destroying the institution of journalism it's destroying the faith people have in the democratic process and they and it's their faith in destroying their faith maybe even in the democratic party rob i'd like to have you back on and talk about that you know this you know the bernie side of it the this a young woman from this alexandro. has i mean you know this is a direction here the donors are terrified palosi is terrified schumer is terrified . and it's all because this is an obsession with ending the political career of a man that was duly elected go finish up on the program finish up go ahead lionel.

peter let me just remind everybody do you remember in recent history any president at his or her well his rally that was ever able to invoke and inspire this frothing frenetic excitement ever when you saw all. these did you ever say yeah one was a smoother presidential and obama was this and that but this president has tapped into a sizable portion of this country that the a leader is fascistic corporate ted baxter sockpuppet media have never been able to compromise it's a different case and by the way journalism is dead all right and i got a job in here for seven or eight and i could do an entire program to selecting the last three sentences you just said here that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks to my guests in new york and in plymouth and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember crosstalk rules.

it was you know provision on my back when i wanted to. ask but i. just i go hide oh i lost his boss because i just you know got the. resources you know. any of those it doesn't but that's honest i don't mean any of them. so i said you know what i was you know i got you know just i mean my most wanted i'm already but it was sped up out of me just going to the media and even i mean it was the lord we're going to. give it up as i might you know i mean that he was i just don't get it i'm getting letters but those were the almost. all of this but i

was just this by the support of his i'm with. my family posse you could've had a bomb i just but that's already yes it will be and he thought if you think of it i think with you you're seeing him in ticket. for man or sitting in a car when the fifth gets shot in the head. all four different versions of what. one of them is on the death row there's no way he could have done it there's no possible way because the list did not shoot around a corner. and . that.

journalism finds itself in the media spotlight in the us after c.n.n. refuses to retract that trump collusion story so even after that the network source backtracked on his most serious claims. in europe over the immigration issue as the french president says he's now the main opponent of the hardline anti margaret leader's hungary. and with a decisive battle looming over the last rebel stronghold in syria the russian foreign minister warns that the u.s.

prefers regime change removing terrorists. here in moscow welcome to r.t. international live. wherever you are thanks for joining us this hour. c.n.n. is under fire after refusing to retract a breaking news story on collusion between donald trump and russia. the news channel's source publicly withdrawing a significant claim the whole story was based on franco has more. a quick look at some of the nuts and bolts of russia collusion storytelling we've gotten rather used to the media running since ational headlines because a number of anonymous sources said this or that well what if the anonymous source reveals his identity and says the story's not true or that he's made a mistake perhaps you'd expect the outlet to take

a step back consider some skepticism possibly make a correction or take the story down altogether not if you're c.n.n. we stand by our story and are confident in our reporting on it and here's their original bombshell story from a month ago sources with knowledge tell myself and call that michael cohen claims then candidate donald trump knew in advance about the june twenty sixth beating a drum tower crucially these sources tell us that cohen is willing to make that assertion to the special counsel robert muller so the sensation was that the president's former lawyer would tell investigators mr trauma had known about the infamous from tower sit down featuring his son and the russians sure that counts as a sensation as many would take it as proof there had been collusion well a few weeks later a man called lanny davis michael cohen's own attorney comes out and says he was the

source for c.n.n. a b. he's made a mistake and c. is inside into this complicated matter has been misinterpreted mr davis eventually even appeared on c.n.n. several times to reiterate just that the reporting of this story got mixed up so michael cohen does not have information that president trump knew about the trump tower meeting with the russians beforehand or you know does not is that your understanding now that the senate has. been told no michael cohen stands by his testimony he did not know of the trump tower meeting beforehand that's correct and the reporting was a bit but c.n.n. did nothing to warn its audience the story could have been false in fact it even began attacking the man who it once used as a source blaming him for changing his mind as often as the wind however when c.n.n.

first broke the news based on a tip off from sources it mentioned that attorney davis declined to comment on the matter now we know that mr davis and the source are the same person unlike these guys other influential outlets the likes of the washington post came up with follow up reports or included corrections they weren't saying the original story was false for sure but at least cast some doubt this was the time when journalists went to c.n.n. but c.n.n. and only answer to their question was we stand by our story it's still right because we had multiple sources did c.n.n. name any of these sources no this is out sometimes work and there could be a much bigger issue behind this kind of news climate one congressman from the republican party has claimed serious people from the likes of the justice

department could leak sensitive stuff to the media on purpose he says this could be a tactic to trigger and the surrounds of probes we know that some people at the department of justice to the f.b.i. actually gave information to the media then the stories were reported then they use those reports to justify further investigations could that point to some other form of collusion don't you dare even think that russia gate is the coin of the room here if you have a story no matter how false you're out with it before anybody pays any attention to this. sourcing we have a sleazy bunch of lawyers and i'd have to. pundits and reporters who now are caught in this web of misinformation. speaking all kinds of euphemisms for lying i would suggest that if they do have another

source that to defend what's left of their reputation they need to serve up some information about this source or but as i say they have no imperative to do that because and at c.n.n. on and this n.b.c. and the cable and also the other outlets this story will kind of peter out and what people will remember is the first impression namely trump lied again. the french president spilled himself as the main opponent to the hard line anti migrant politicians currently holding power in italy and hungary and saw for the past united to fight existing e.u. migration policies and vow to take power into their own hands in the next elections for the european parliament china devinsky for ports from the french capital. we're seeing clear signs developing as we head towards the european elections in twenty nineteen and what we're seeing is the big divisions between the leaders of e.u. nations where the manual might go the president of france declaring today that he

would be in opposition to the leaders of italy aren't hungry for that's what they wanted and he would stand up against their policies. just because it is indeed clear that today there is a strong opposition between nationalists and progressives and i will not give anything away to nationalists and to those who deliver this hate speech and so if they wanted to see me as their main opponent they are right well that's what a president to say of that meeting on tuesday between the leader of hungary viktor orban and the deputy prime minister of italy mattel yourself we need now they met yesterday in a phone did very well one of the issues that they were discussing was the migration crisis to the single europe over the last eight years and that you said that they would look to work together to solve that crisis. so the current situation is like that there are two sides one is led by matter on who is supporting migration we are

on the other side trying to stop illegal immigration in this issue is strongly debated inside the european people's party and we want all aligned to be accepted. we're asking for collaboration first of all from the large countries the countries that share a border with us like france the first person who should show his sensitivity and solidarity is the french president by reopening the border at ventimiglia and he can do so even tomorrow morning well the two you have not always seen one hundred percent on the issue of migration we know that much of the ne in italy has talked about italy burdening too much of the responsibility of the migrants want some to be dispersed of course you. which is what we've seen from hungary's prime minister viktor orban as well as leaders of countries such as poland and the czech republic is a point blank refusing to take any more likely end of the two have come together because

they believe that they can form the best and main opposition to the current status quo in the european union quiz look at some of the figures now of the migration crisis in two thousand and eighteen the figures show that so far around eighty two thousand migrants have come to europe across land from the sea in addition to that fifteenth fifteen hundred people are feared to be missing or have died in the crossing in the mediterranean. this migration crisis continues to cause

a huge rift in europe and it looks like it's once again going to be one of the biggest platforms coups in division in europe as we head to the elections just in eight months time the question is which saw it is going to win out respect to reinsert and political commentator john bricmont who feels good sentiments becoming more and more popular within the e.u. . we michael should be worried about fees at celgene is far more popular than it did in my colonies in france and of course all banning hunger is in the mud i mean old opposed to that in the election sure that well expect a large block of until my you and they pities to get elected you seem friends the high. i mean not the five but the very the republicans are already taking the opportunity of having a very in and i mangle a discourse which is between the can is because the family friends is not going to bring the right answer.