these highfalutin words like we're just trying to educate the population it's a knowledge economy we're all just going to be smart and wealth will really well grow enough writers you know in august some are bombing children in yemen you know that you don't want empathy ok so who's in the open up now open it up go ahead and listen to this opening up there. in it's. looks like i think of so i think that's cruz jeff smisek khrushchev that's that's that's that's a bad record i think that's actually jimmy carter right and brezhnev jimmy carter and and you. yes british. jimmy there are more in there and british so what happened during the president carter era cold war it was pretty hot at that time the cold war was hot and that was the days when a lympics used to be great now it's the opposite in cold war to point out the olympics it's all like you know it's not like oh boy caught in something like that

back then we used to be like it was like professional wrestling are professional wrestling which isn't really professional it's just fake it's all entertainment. with the bad just like you're in this period you had the famous hockey summit canada versus russia during this era you would know better than know this was when the philadelphia flyers started beating up russians on i want to ask putin when i interview him later this year about that series you hope yeah i heard this that i'm going to be interviewing putin about hockey detente ice hockey detente later this year again i'm going to quickly move to this final headline because you know an education might not be necessary it is certainly not necessary really for a soldier more than tariffs china sees trade war as a new u.s. containment tactic it's about time of course much of what the u.s. has actually done over the past two decades i would say since two thousand since two thousand and one the invasion of iraq that russia gate stuff is actually. all i

believe about containment of china now china is he says they don't see the trade war as actually being about the trade war that it's about containment of china they don't want china to grow anymore and this this opinion piece over is in asia and a hong kong newspaper is saying that basically they're both underestimating each other and their willingness to resort to military means america china america china that they both could start a hot war to their greatest ally america and case to go to war china russia that's the point of this new doll mature for. exercise you see america has always been you know some degrees. you know bodies like frenemies i say american russia or from the me we're frenemies right but because we only have forty seconds left i'd like to see who actually is in the final. seeming it's kind of the increase as it gets smaller their representation of these presidents really get more stronger so this is the worst one and you can. hard to see.

it's yes kennedy and i guess that's a truce true or not a good likeness of it yeah it's not a good likeness so that he has say that it actually looks like gorbachev but i'm thirty three so i think the chinese people who made this their order is wrong and they put gorbachev in kennedy put him twice as here's what christopher impression a member of the cold war there the bay of pigs cuba it all goes back to cuba and the cuban bay of pigs see that's the kind of poetry you don't see on mainstream media they only see it here on the cars report why because we're in love well we got to go to the second half don't go away much more coming your way.

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welcome back to the kaiser report i'm max kaiser welcome to the show the one and only the krypto kenya sinclair welcome thanks but i feel you know the first name now like madonna is just sinclair around the gun with whatever you call them claire skinner of bit mari is also at the black block chain summit the black bloc change summit i was coming up. look we're trying to take this amazing technology and solve some long existing problems in the black communities and we think this is a great way to do it so we're going to have subject matter experts in some of these particular topics be an education dealing with energy as well as having folks who are well versed in black chain technology we're going to put them together discuss these issues try to come up with some you know. actions you know that we can take from there and it will have a hackathon from that point in till november and i'm going to take all that energy from the hack a thons and hopefully next year we would have done something better and we're not

going to have a meeting after meeting to meet we're going to actually do like they did with the declaration independence they went out and start shooting folks so after we do our meeting what we're going to outshoot people the non-disabled kind of the what this is a conference on go another. driver as it finishes it up and people are going to get the declaration the end of it is a huge deal not because of the meeting but because of what they did after they declared independence they went out there is they're getting it i mean if you like shooting a film well not like actually shooting people's guns so we're not go shooting about were used technology we think is better than politics with things but in protesting we even things better in a philanthropy was ok this is an element of my focus on this project to sell the black struggle in america east think and you're position is that technology is another rail that offers emancipation. and not to be too you know fine a point on it is that a fair statement absolutely it could be an underground railroad or just another a

oh absolutely it's in dire need in a racism let me tell me if i'm wrong racism is as prevalent in american society today as it's ever been rice is systemic it is actually something is a part of fabric and we need to do something to change it i think technology wait for someone to come save us is not going to work so i sometime and jim crow is gone but the person does your complex is amazing is here and is our generation's actually felt the most like coming of age in eighty's you think about it you know prior to that it was a lot of prison population but we have all these other things and next thing you know we're in an even worse situation so i think it's it's time for us to use technology to wait for you know the cult of personality of people that we love as political office like obama or people that people hate like a tribe that's not a political strategy we need to use technology and not get caught up in these distractions and messing pounce is

a distraction but when you ok so she is black that's yes yes and that south talk a little bit about that. we talk about marriage was your idea who pleaded to love and i'd marry so i want to be this new i don't know what you want to ask me that question what is this about what is so black about max tell mum tell you i think it's about i think it's about you know liberation and the fact that this technology of blah chain and because i'm is is offering a way forward from our constructions in our restrictions and in our chains in a lot of ways you know racism hurts everybody go nuts as the victims of racism dinner out right there but it hurts everybody and this country as either ban it you know built on a cemetery of indigenous population and then made whole made possible through slavery you know that was the economic innovation of previous centuries was slavery

that was the block chain there on the chain gang there was a fricken chain of people you know that's how america got wealthy right seller and now you know we're all black in that sense when they bring in censorship now and when they bring in wholesale kind of sensory center ship on the internet that that's intolerable we're back to all fighting the same fight now you know i think you're i think it was a grid near she talked about when you look at victims of racism as canaries and they. it was occurring in a coal mine so because of this racial environment it's not the kineret is a fault but there respiratory system is more sensitive because of the things going on but they gas to kill everybody so i think what you do say does directly relates to the fact that many of the things we've seen from drugs being put in communities and the military industrial complex it may start off with one population but is let

me ask you this question you know i was familiar with the crack head and the nodder not not in the and there isn't jan or it and i get that man he's on he's on heroin ok now in the white community they say oh we have an opiate crisis. you know some of my brother is a couple years older than me he's been on drugs for most his adult life and he's talked about how to prison changes that we first got in early late eighty's if it was very punitive he said now they've got some little programs for folks to kind of like do good about. why people have opiate crisis and they're micro dosing right through to black people are strung out on terra and they're cracking animals then so that's the same again there's a way you practice on one population now it leads to the other problem in the

meantime by slavery you know it's hard to compete for fair wages when you've got one population they could be owned by one and yet you're we're trying to figure out i think you're right on the farms that accompanies a response of the opi crisis they ran out of people in the ghetto to mess up you know they had to go jump over to the white population to make money because they already messed up the black population pretty bad so they've got to jump over to the white population that's why we're all in the hood we're all black sensuous to tell his black now talk about technology let's talk about this the technology at it at it there's two schools of thought one is we heard safety and talk about his book to the bitcoin standard and it's a very western approach to money hard money and why bitcoin is a better source of money but in when i talk to you you know you come to it from a slightly different angle of there's a spiritual element to this that goes back way back way back before america way before western cultures it goes back thousands of years you know maybe even half a million years that there's something more critical at stake here there's an

essence here there's a spiritual quality to it ok speak on that yeah i think what we've seen a lot of these economists even in the blotching space their context to what civilisation starts in the very late stage and even when you're on must first principles we're looking at the conditions in the world to stop. just one hundred years ago or two hundred years ago in america through five hundred years ago those were still very recent i mean we've been civilized people for thousands of years and what existed before that you know european a so-called western culture is very late very young so there's been cultures in africa we still can't build pyramids so even when people talk about technical innovation we still can build a pyramid and have them in mexico and have them after so if a blace in a pickle is the perfect money we all say it is and if it disenfranchises central banks and banks and it puts family out of business and it takes us back as a culture as a civilization to one before we had that western notion of money all where are we

all a gone back to our african roots essentially like because i want to take us back to africa all of us the entire species of humanity of humans back to something that is primordial now in for a moment some things more humane more humane and that whole humanity comes out of a spiritual space is not the other way around and i think that the spiritual space allows us to exchange value in a way that is more than just transactional there's something else there's an energy there there's something more to it you see many of these analysis they leave that energy out as if these all it is a series of transaction there's more to how we got where we are now than just saying that which runs a cousin listen to say fifteen and he talks about economics starting with scarcity well it's octavo yeah and others who take it back spiritually thousands and thousands of years actually the economics is defined by abundance absolutely abundance so you again the people who talk about the people is an ice people but it

in a day if you look at many parts of the world people didn't have to worry about winter coming and run around being afraid to somehow something was going to be there if you look at your been some of these other cultures there was a real sense of scarcity that made people baby more confrontational if we look at many parts of the world if you were to say left the motherland. right i mean they felt they left africa which was abundant to go search for something else outside of the garden of eden not only did they lose a color but they started thinking about everything in terms of scarcity and they were already living in the garden of eden right sosa toshi is black they're here the successful will go back to eat in which is second africa thank you and i think if we all start changing that mindset we can create that space no matter where we are and i think that's where because we're amazing about the the global power of this technology it doesn't have a jurisdiction we all can start creating community beyond these artificial fake

borders that never were very helpful anyway and if you think about it we start talking about you know decentralization and africa rio they still are two thousand languages and it was already decentralized it was it went to the colonize it came in carved up spaces they had nothing to do would actually create a better space but it was actually done to that subdue people so i think we can get to that space now not just with the internet with actually with this next layer would transactions and being exchange value in a very powerful way through the blood letting network do it again we're lame second layer second layer we're doing lightning right now we did it yes we did our first remittance transaction from a node in nigeria to a node in zimbabwe back in march so tell people a bit mari is so big mari is a pan african blood chain while we hold big korean big corn in cash and we're going to be coming up some additional services in one of the big things that we've been

doing is or allowing people to cash out of crypto in zimbabwe we have a bank particle agra bank that we've been working with that allows people to cash out and we're now expanding to other african countries one of the big things is dealing with regulators you know one area might not be is warm is the other but if we have an expansive offering we can be in more. african countries and our target is trying to decolonized they did it today you know barclays and a lot of these banks made their money off exploiting us we don't need them anymore we actually can exchange value peer to peer and use this amazing technology but we know the blocks in technology and the peer to peer applications are exploding in africa much probably the most adopt of place in the world is it probably because there's just already a natural tendency to think in this way i think that after tends to be the problem with most of these developing countries those not the local people most of these african countries as well as latin america are still you know neo colonial states

where they still look to the west for approval so if you're a banker in africa and you're trying to do business in europe you're still going to unfortunately be manipulated by the swiss bank or the other systems that are out there so i think this is a great opportunity though to use technology to change it up ok so it's a black block changed some it still may be the tenth and eleventh why howard university historic our university historically black college amazing place in d.c. i'm speaking a thank you max for speaking and we thank you for us it's so she is black then of thanks for being on the kaiser part yet let our life out of. our. own for the guy we were really just thinking would play and i got to say guys are still oh i got to start off saying clap ok calm down or let me get down to get through with this like this that hey we've got to go and that's going to do it for this edition of the cast reportedly nice guys are safe here and i think our guest

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on a welcome twelve a part of much of the twentieth century rising levels of organization it came hand in hand with rising incomes moving to a big city more often than not a key kid to a better life that still holds true but everywhere the majority of people leaving for big cities in the global south particularly in africa may actually see their fortunes worsen rather than improve is a run a station turning from a blessing intercourse well to discuss that and now we're joined by robert buckley

senior fellow in international affairs at the new school in new york mr barclay it's a pleasure talking to you thank you very much for your time thank you now almost every country in the world has a version of the breakfast at tiffany's movie about a young man or young women moving into a big city attracted by its opportunities but i understand it from your writing that it is a rather mythologized perception. what are been a station is like more and more people are moving to bigger cities not because they want to not because they're attracted by big lied to but because they have no choice is that right that's right no let me qualify that it's not. the general phenomenon or how it started of is that indeed cities grow more rapidly and urbanization happens as incomes increase and so in some countries and particularly in sub-saharan africa we've witnessed a phenomenon in which people move to cities because the conditions in the

countryside are to their conflict or drought and so they're moving to cities in a situation where their income is an increasing but that doesn't mean their situation isn't improving relative to where they were they were in dire straits in the countryside and came to the city so urbanization is not correlate it with increases in income but it doesn't mean that it's causing their situation to cure i heard you say that many cities are now. prepared for the kind of and the flocks of new residents and their planning. making planning changes only after the occupants have arrived rather than before as was the case with let's say new york or barcelona in the nineteenth century. and that in your view leads to the proliferation of slums i wonder if you consider slums a kind of c.d.'s in the in the broad sense of the world i think the sense of. kind

of the mythology of how urbanization fits into an economy was generally the notion that as urbanization increases societies become richer and that people coming to cities would often come particularly poor people and say in a slow as a way station on their way to becoming integrated into the city but no we're finding that in many african countries this is the third generation of families living in the same slum and they're now. integrating into the society and slums or increasingly according to u.n. data in most african cities a majority of the population indeed lives in slums without taishan facilities and often without clean water you said before that moving into a bigger city it does not necessarily mean that doesn't mean at all that your life fortunes are going to worsen but i think. at least here in russia we associate living in a city with higher living standards down in the countryside high levels of hygiene

high levels of health care but from what i understand living in very high downs communities like slums for the proper access to health care are sometimes felt knocks us to health care at all what actually increases your likelihood of contracting disease it sure. is that do we understand at this point how those communities even function how do they address those kind of challenges you know not extremely well for example. one of the issues that. a continuum of tension two is the vision of said taishan and one reason i did is that in sub-saharan africa for the past twenty five years which has probably been their most rapid period of economic growth there's been almost no improvement in access to urban said haitian it's forty percent of the population has access so when you have figures that low the evidence suggests that no one benefits from the provision

if you increase from forty to forty two no one benefits because you still have people desiccated in ellie's and you still have feces everywhere and so the sense of the health effects of something like that could be extraordinary and then if you compare it with many african cities are in dire straits already and there urbanization rates are some of the highest levels ever so you're compounding a problem that's already severe with an influx that. could create really nothing short of the catastrophe i think well i think the one of your fears or did describe it as a looming catastrophe on our hands do you think. the world community at large is well aware what's going on i don't think why not i don't know i think there is attention to it but i think things like sanitation it's a topic that a government official wants to discuss it. something that you don't get a lot of ribbon cuttings for opening up a new sewer system you know that you would with redesigning the bolshoi or

something like that. that's one conjecture about why that's the case but frankly i don't know but there is don't let me overstate it there is attention to it but i don't think the resources correspond to the need the argument that is often used to persuade donor countries to. provide resources for that kind of effort is the theory for migration if you don't want people coming into your cities you need to spend some money on making bad lives more livable do you think that is a persuasive argument. and it's one that as you say it's i think. a myth that's been held by many officials in. public officials and indeed international agencies that the sense that you can prevent people from coming to the cities i know in some countries they in fact subsidize people to take a bus back to the countryside and they get on the bus and they go back and visit

their relatives and then come back to the city and so it goes to my earlier point the one the way you were to queue laid it is the cities throughout history have offered bright lights and learning and occupations cities are a great thing and it's just how do you deal with this demographic movement is has always been a difficult process but i think right now in some countries it's a particularly difficult process i heard you say that almost all of the world's next two billion people will leave and they celebrate islam saturated. communities given the scope of their problems already do you think they have the problem of slums will ever be resolved is that even possible given where we are this point of time well. you know. i think you know there's a joke in economics where people said this is unsustainable and if it's. sustainable it indeed will stop. so i think. given

the potential problems here you could get people not moving to cities at nearly the rate that has been interested you could get a reaction from government. and so economists tend to be cynical and they tend to believe that in the long run things work out and so that's one view but i think there is a need to prompt people to react to you react before the problems occur but i mean the problem of migration especially from the south saharan africa is i think has been in the making for over a decade i mean it precedes the war in syria and if you think about billions of people moving to very poor conditions regardless of whether they provide sanitation there or not it seems that the only way out of that situation is not the op not. to build more housing there but actually it's you going to.

and you see you know the thousands dying crossing the mediterranean into europe and the world probably hasn't had this many migrants. in fifty years since world war two i mean it's it is an incredible situation in that we see a lot of the news about international migration but the same thing is going on within countries and there's a rapid movement to cities in the same kind of phenomena now if you're alluding to the fact that not many. politicians are policy makers. very key in. that problem or perhaps do not take it as the first priority and. there is a i think a very romantic. urban circles that c.t.'s will find solutions to all the world's problems since these no nation state is that will do that do you subscribe to that point of view so i don't think they care and i think cities have been far more innovative the national governments and i do think there's

a sense in which cities are becoming politically more important and the ideas that are generated in the world are you know i think so much of our culture and ideas come from cities and it comes from just one writer jane jacobs talked about the only place where you can see a stranger of the or other traveler by going to a city and so there's just so much going on ideas are generated and so cities are i think are fulcrum of change like that but nevertheless central governments are still important very important in terms of addressing larger issues like income distribution and climate change you know what makes me concerned about this kind of discourse is that is the fact that they have long seen a gap that in politics and policies and you know ideally politics is supposed to be a facilitator of policies but i think they're increasingly diverging especially in the western countries and my concern is that if we think this way of cities you

know leading the way we will essentially leave all the major issues of life you know war and peace of life and to the politicians. do you have that sense and i wonder if you believe that politicians. care enough about the things that you supposedly care i think there's an awful lot of politicians talking . about ideas that are clearly not only not evidence based but based against evidence and that to me is i don't fully understand but i do observe it a lot and it's quite distressing and it's i don't know how to explain it but it is a it's a real danger and i think measures to. enact policies that are shown to not be effective is but create political.