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not everybody is in favor of renationalisation transfers sixty crisscrossing thinks that's a very bad idea this is what he has to say in the house of commons. mr speaker i know i'm going to hear a lot today about nationalizing everything which is of course remembered with remembering we've heard today that the coast over a nationalized which companies would cost ninety billion pounds we've heard nothing about the cost of the nationalizing the railways not just losing the private investment for you was the truth but actually the billions of pounds with bringing those trains back home to the public books so we remain committed to success of a private railway and night to get some further perspective alex is joined by historian and political commentator. michael welcome to the alex salmond show good to be here alex let's start on the discourse like because that is a real way which was a private hands then public hands then private hands public hands

private hands and no back in public hands does that give us an insight into how best to run a real wit i have to say that whoever hands it's been in that particular line has never made much of a profit and it's in fact it's often made the last simply because there's not that much commercial and industrial traffic up the east coast of great britain the only real really profitable long distance line in britain is there is a line between london and glasgow simply because glasgow and clyde side in general was a producer of heavy goods of steel and ship and so on and they these are these kinds of activities attracted a lot of railway traffic and must have been true of these coastline but in recent years the east coast line seems to have been a success when it was in public hands then they went back into the pilots had almost been handed back to the public sector is that an insight there that evil or a difficult line to run may be better than the public said. well of course since

privatisation in the in one nine hundred ninety there has been a tremendous increase in traffic on that line the only trouble is it hasn't produced profits for the railway companies involved. this is because i mean the railways are a means of long distance mass travel and so the prices really have to be kept low. otherwise people won't travel on them on the other hand prices really have to be high in order to finance the investment for new technologies and various other improvements on the railways to keep those those rare railways running you know according to the latest the best standards available so we've had the paradox of an increase in traffic. amid deteriorate all your quite poor service and not earning enough for reinvestment are you saying that when it comes to real ways it's much easier to make money in short hole that is

a long haul one i think that's absolutely true of the you know the long haul. railways which seem to work on the high speed rail ways as we see them in europe you know from going from germany to the channel ports or eastwood's to to warsaw in prague is an absolute pleasure. you know high speeds high level of service and these railways are doing well but you're british quite a small countries so it's in in terms of area so it's quite hard to find effective long term or long distance railways stretches which will make profit i think probably london's a glasgow would be a good one to try but unfortunately you know the governments in their wisdom i'm not trying to they're they're trying only from london suburban which is bound to be a disaster but they're going to get to glasgow sometime in the next century or they're not or so they tell us but that's your high and i'm not sure railways are

going to going to last that long because you just interest on one thing before we go on to the future of the us. bill you know a well known privateer you are by by the inclination you're on the right of center you believe in privatizing folks never think so and you're in favor of privatizing always well you know i'm also being a right wing i'm also a pragmatist i'm not a dogmatist like many of the left so indeed i was in favor of all the privatizations of the thatcher era and of course some of them telecoms up to the huge success but railways have been a failure you know absolute privatisation really has been a complete disaster from beginning to end so what is about the real ways that make it so difficult. to run in the private sector well but as i say because you cannot generate generate the revenue in order to keep up with technological improvements as you obviously can in telecoms i mean that's what you know in the old days use

used to have to apply to the government for a telephone now you can just walk into a shop and buy the latest and you could get any color as long as i was glad. but really i don't like them railways are essentially victorian technology i mean they're on a par with the hot air balloon or the penny farthing bicycle that sort of the government's investing in perhaps fifty billion perhaps a lot more in this high speed rail that's a good take some table are you saying that investing all of that capital into technology which is essentially did well while yes there's there the technology is outdated i think it will twenty first century railways will die and be replaced by new forms of transport so how can you possibly say that when there's been one thing home almost a doubling of passenger numbers in the in the last there and the service is woeful i mean there you know if you if you go even on some long distance services you have stand away this is not so i think in the long run

a standalone service which people are going to accept but we can't say her no wait for her newest star trek transporter to take us to me to be in the meantime surely well fast real comfortable real is the best option but who's going to pay for it i mean there's no money to you can invest you know several several billions of pounds in a high speed service as the government would like to do from london's burning i'm going to see this is going to reduce on yourself is so in the relatively short term before other means of your smart cars or whatever smart electric cars it ought to be for the environment come into being how would you think the best thing could be done to run the real we right now there is no solution to this problem as i said. it's a legacy of the nineteenth century i do not believe there is an easy way of running british railways at least in and efficient and profitable way. with

a guarantee of comfort for all passengers i don't believe this this concept is capable of realisation therefore we just have to drag along until the whole environment is changed by new means of transport with good of a speed to develop the fifty billion pound plus going into this fast rule from london to burgle and perhaps elsewhere to making the couple services more efficient we're comfortable spacious with modern communications like wife lie and chill for a child's life would be a fine thing chance of i mean that scenario or what we're told that the railway at its best will provide us but it's still a very patchy performance and on the whole i would say the rail services in this country are still poor as anyone who's to travel in the former it was we will be able to tell you michael for you give us some trenchant views going back through history looking and some somewhat alarming future predictions where you regret the

demise of the of the real it was a big mistake the other night mail crossing the border that sort of stuff one of the yes i used to love riding on the railways before they were ever privatizing at least in first class they they provided an absolutely excellent service with smooth clean women and there are a silver cutlery and you can sit and have your or have your morning bacon and eggs while the sun rose over the north sea and it was an absolutely delightful experience one of my was decisions of fuss mr scott was to order of the new sleeper kalitan which had just being about to be introduced at the present moment though could that recapture one aspect because the sleeper service. from london to scotland the skull to london used to be eleanor mistake you went up to play golf or in northern days for the shooting will be less in the old days actually. a nice

thing that would make that aspect of travel with a proper cabin from sweet facilities the less could that mean a revival in the sleeper service yes i think so because that was a huge convenience also for people who are from scotland who had to do business in london and there's as you got as to send you off to sleep in edinburgh or glasgow you could order a dram or two from the carriage attendant. and then you would drop gently through the months and a week refreshed in london so it is that level of service that are free privatisation the opana dock sickly killed privatisation was supposed to produce improvements in service and they did precisely the opposite michael the e.u. say the railways are a thing of the past but look at the opening the borders lou railway i'm in the long stretch a lane which i think carries the over a million passengers sure that's been an outstanding success yes i'm not sure how much money it makes or. a new news for the boat or as good news for the world as

the borders people are very happy although when they start getting new housing estates and lots of commuter traffic i'm not sure they're going to be remain so happy but you know that line has particular drawbacks it doesn't go all the way through the strict cio of the it doesn't go from one side of the borders to the other it's all your single track it could be make money as let's say going scenic railway because it's an hour of doma from the law to station a scone waverley station in edinburgh many of the see that real with the world to shoot well aware you have to travel for long distances to get there and but yes surely that could be the making money of yesterday and it is a scenic route because the rail itself runs on a higher level along that kind of tree top level so if you've been used to driving down that road the trees obscure of thing but no the vistas open up so it's actually a very fine line of all in favor of it for them might be a future for the railways after all. if it is yes but you have to take each project seriously i mean there also been drug double tracked on that line and it also gone

all the way from edwards a carlisle official hesitation you know the civil servant saying oh have you thought of this minister have you thought of that minister you know cautious pussyfooting investment is not the way to go now i have to ask you michael your best and admirable conducting this interview london how did you get down to london for the interviews were you in a plame are we on real i was on the railway yes but this is because i'm a bit of a railway buff and i will always travel by railway unless it's absolutely unavoidable well let's not i surely got you here i can see that i'm sure they'll get you back and in the meantime so you can celebrate and comfort your journey collectors that you with them examine quick i don't have to tell you that little bit as you know only scotch absolutely and of course they do. and there was the moment they do serve scotch though i must say of a rather inferior blend well i expect you to pass that on your fellow passenger hospital he won't go very far out. there what michael thank you alex. what

a way to run a real way and next week we turn to another hot issue fast rail or chess two is that the future of rail is an all solution to twenty first century problems the done that before it's even built we speak to the people and the community is at the sharp end of fast rail union or your lady wife running at how long i was in there are only what did it mean to you when we boarded it was called the valley gardens and my wife and i sadly lost one of our twins named bree louise back in two thousand and three so we asked camden licensing if we could change the name of it and for the thing they granted is that permission and it's been the breweries ever since it was more than just a business as a huge emotional attachment you had in these premises are and it was a house in our own for fifteen years as well so the chemical ability was cool but still are unbelievable honestly so what are we laughing today about the real was first the proponents of the present twin track system and that's an ever

diminishing band that is public ownership of infrastructure private operation of the trains they say with some merit rail traffic is increasing faster than any other country in the world safety has improved and under the old british railways board the specter of dr beecham stop the land that was a long time ago another that is no problem getting people to use the trains the problem is squeezing them all into the trades the momentum for an integrated public ownership model is no very strong but whatever happens is it too much to expect in the twenty first century britain we can work a system of how to make the trains run on time with seats for all the passengers. i know from taza me i don't like saddam still it's good bye now.

because you know provision of my bike when i want it. or not. but i. just i go hide oh i lost his bus because i just got done you just got to go he. doesn't have any money in my thumb on those it doesn't but that's honest i don't think there's been any of that. so i says you know you're not. you're not just i mean my point is i'm already but it was sped up out of me just a lot of the media in the i mean the law we're going to go with. this one up as

well i must admit that he was i just don't get off on getting letters but those were the old they're just beautiful sounds the people are going to respect i'm one of those but i was just this by this one of these i'm going to get my will my family if i see you could a car bomb i just got that already he said whiskey and he thought a thing of it but i think with you you're simply meant to carry out my thought aloud but let me just quote to you. you know world of big part of the law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now for watching closely watching the

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last so i'm not touching me in my life. i soon long have to die. pranking gave americans a lot of job opportunities i needed to come up here to make some money make me twenty five thousand dollars as a teacher or i could make fifty thousand dollars a year truck. drove truck people rush to a small town in north dakota was an unemployment rate of zero percent like gold rush is very very similar. but this beautiful story ended with pollution and devastation a lot of people have left here i don't know too many people here anymore slow down

so much they lost their jobs that laid off the american dream is changing that's not what it used to be. it's a tough reality. you know it's all about getting along in the greatest ally and friend russia you know. but there's other things in here saw. proceed here in the first half hour to see what.

has a decisive battle looms over the last rebel stronghold in a blue province in syria the u.s. discards russian intelligence on a possible chemical attack being prepared by terrorists that. was the scene that afore. so you try to put the blame they try to put the onus on other groups and we don't buy into. a video of a young palestinian girl scaling an israeli build fence to get home in the west bank goes viral we speak to the activist to fill me in to the. germany struggles to deport an undocumented migrant who faces over five hundred criminal charges you should with illegal migration overshadows chancellor merkel's tour of africa. we need outspoken british rock star roger waters who's in russia for a set of gigs he's got plenty to say about the world's biggest issues and where he

gets his news. the guy who's producing who were producing this record started telling me about how far to the how it was. just pure propaganda nothing but a pack of lies when i worked. there ten am on thursday here in moscow i'm calling bright with your world news from r.t. international the united states is ignoring warnings that terrorists are preparing a chemical attack in italy province in northwest syria a state department spokesperson simply said that they don't buy into that when asked about the intelligence provided by moscow the russians are claiming now and this one other groups are stockpiling chemical weapons and planning an attack so you know i think that's more false flag type reporting from going to be this is enough for when they try to put the blame they try to put the onus on other groups

and we don't buy into that russia says it has information on the delivery of toxic substances to italy province they claim to go up there with the help of these self-styled rescue group the white house that has to be used in a false flag attack russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov says it's aimed at keeping elmos are terrorists in the country to be further used against the syrian government. the chemical weapons provocation which is being prepared is aimed at keeping al nasra they're counting on using it against the so-called regime as they call it following the alleged goot a chemical attack russia's warning that rebels will try to stage as similar incident indeed live to draw the u.s. france and britain in get them to hit as sad again russia says an incident is imminent especially after the u.s. and allies jointly stated that they would act if it looks like as had launched another chemical attack that's almost an invitation to do so says moscow.

now when the u.s. is steering the situation around we want to know how can damascus have chemical weapons if the u.s. france and great britain destroyed them last year you know what the u.s. answer is we never said that france did it's do or dive for the jihad ists rebels nowhere left to run nothing left to lose and their sponsors the west the gulf which have pumped billions upon billions of dollars into a cause that's on its last legs the mascot's and moscow a trying to work out a deal to reduce perhaps avoid the bloodshed but the job for it syria russia adamant these swamp of terror and zealotry has no future. group which are this is the last place for the terrorists so from all points of view this abscess should be removed of course what everybody's fearful of is escalation given the us russian military buildup in the region everyone has

a gun pointed at each other and given that this is it the final act of the syrian war the urge to shoot might just be overwhelming the united states doesn't believe that the rebels have that capability whereas the. tremendous documentation to show that they do have the capability they've probably been storing it for months if not years in the province and they have used it in the past they have that capability and it is a last ditch hold for them so it cannot be ruled out and it's not it's not beyond the realm of possibility that the u.s. is trying to get assad out they're going to continue trying and and even though donald trump wants to. get the u.s. out of syria there are elements within the u.s. government that don't want that to happen but the concern specifically about the

white helmets the group being accused of delivering a large supply of chemicals to a province i think been linked with terrorists several times before political activist and outspoken british rock musician roger waters from pink floyd been sharing his thoughts about it with r.t. he's currently in russia on tour and spoke at length to sophie shevardnadze. if there is a grassroots footy called the way home is of volunteers. separate for the people who actually started to stumble it didn't start it was started by an english soldier. in istanbul if that body exists. and they and they go and help people. in a salad or the russians or somebody else just drop bobs of them then i support them whole heartedly with the fiber of my being. put.

all the evidence points to the fact that that is not the reality i don't know if you did you did you see the the documentary that won the oscar. i mean have you ever seen anything so obviously scripted and carefully shot. now for this book and google when you choose but whatever the way that most people get their news and they use those. social media you know or in order to educate themselves or find out what's going on nothing but it's being it is being the content is being censored by the corporations that earn it. so it so so it it won't be free and it's not free now but it's and they're very are targeting. i wouldn't be surprised if i

disappear because i'm anti war. when i was making this this record i just made this is the life we really were. the guy was producing the record producing this record with me started telling me about . how our t.v. was. just pure propaganda nothing but a pack of lies while i worked churchy so i've said that you can't see a documentary about fracking on american television because they weren't interested in it in time and telling you anything about anything if you want to watch the full interview with roger waters it airs here on so if you go on september seventh only on r.t. . next video of a young palestinian go climbing a security fence erected by israeli forces in the west bank has provoked outrage

online the girls apparently trying to get home after israeli security forces closed the gate there and painters say it's becoming a daily routine for palestinians we spoke to from hebron freedom fund who filmed the video. of the army. you know do that every day and the distinctions are there if the students from the neighborhood use me in. a few minutes only in order to leave the school we have a give the school a boy to school only you know two or three minutes from the neighborhood but the solution policy in the submission policy. of the creation makes them. walk around and sometimes they climb the gates and they climb the fences let's illustrate few where all this happened is in the south of the west bank in hebron in a district in the old city where israeli authorities erected that one hundred fifty

meter long fence which you can see outlined here and blown up palestinians living there have two ways to get to their homes the checkpoint and also the gate that you saw in the video the barrier was put there for security reasons after an israeli man was stabbed to death last year but last thursday it had to be blocked. several hours for a pass when a number of palestinians sabotaged it the i.d.f. says residents were able to pass from a gate through a gate which is just a few meters away although back in may israeli forces kept that gate closed for six days and around punishment for stone throwing as they put it.

again describes what's happening as segregation the fence. neighborhood around seventy seven families from the schools from the. from the universities from the other neighbors we call their gate and they're all going to get it and equal it all because that road. from the main street is that. they walk on the mean street and living there they walk on the side of that old you know we have twenty two checkpoints one hundred movement in one kilometer square in the city center of people on. the issue of illegal migration is shaping chancellor angela merkel top of africa germany sheltered a vast amount of migrants and is now struggling to resolve the problem of failed asylum seekers because mack basic identification papers are europe.