am and while i ask to have a cold car mom a famous yemeni political activist and nobel peace prize winner. the civil war in yemen has seen a new bloody twist the next president saleh killed by his former allies the battle lines are being violently drawn once again what will bring to the ravaged country. an opening for peace. in the stalemate of war and the law and starving civilians have to wait before the guns fall silent. got among the many journalists an activist winner of the nobel peace prize welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us. yemen's former president has been killed by his former allies there who sees the alliance between them which fought the saudi led coalition is no more sallys deaths good for yemen or is it only going to make situation worse. first of all thank you so fans for r.t.

for. inviting me to this program. it's a really tragic and the x. rays event highly son. and we. wouldn't wish this and for him we made a great peaceful revolution and forced him to leave the city peacefully we gave him immunity we gave him all so we all know him to have the money billions of dollars that he toke from there also duty did during his thirty three years or so we did to him to leave the authority with this money but unfortunately he choose to have our lives with the mini shelf and pussy and as he always do he is dancing with the with the snakes and now the snakes killed him and now the question the

very important question what is next after i the sun the death this is a very important thing that situation in yemen well the to the rate will this who will continue will the wall will continue this answer should be this question should be unserved by the yemeni people yemeni people should be now the one who handled the solution the one that they stop the war and the one who'll stop that coup how come it's there is a lot of you know solution yes and lou is that we have many people should we will she talk about this in detail to our call so i want to be back to. president solace as a nation now that he is that. his loyalists have no more leader do you think they will start fighting each other and fight. more power. here is we still who we

are in the won't you know into the rule and also do you know room so the world isn't stopped. inside yemen and also inside yemen so if it will be worse than that. then what had been to now nothing was that that done what does it have been in the now it's how can we stop this wrong how can we stop the spiting between yemenis and also between saudi emirates and iran in our country and that needs a lot of things so let's not do this is done to speak about the past let's talk about future how can we prevent the need. to in the possibility hope you prevent the of this. ok of the escalation i understand for for example one scenario is what president hadi is proposing great now right he is

backed by the saudis and he has sat that he will declare amnesty for anyone who stops fighting. do you think this promise could end the war. no of course not i'm calling president teddy. who is the visit to mature is a dent i'm calling to the. government to open that dialogue to start to making because she think with me the show for those who see with all parties of him and they have to find solutions for yemenis they have to stop who under also they have to stop the world. and when we are with dialogue it's now we are now in the. other stead after the death of charlie son so there is a lot of chances now to make peace in yemen so a blizzard into how did i end this at the met the new government should start

a dialogue with the horses but also also who says no has to declare that they are redy to hand over the web as to the legitimate to also duty former president reached out to the saudis calling on them to lift the blockade on yemen with solace death now is there no more hope for the end of the glow kate. it's a bit and this is this is the duty. of the saudi and emirates early and none some did and emits. and then they are a hell of a hell being the visit to me to boot is a dent on restoring his also tedium and they can then that and they are they said that they are with the legitimate other thing with the president teddy but the kid that is the reality unfortunately the they are cute biting him and they are cute by

doing the. both the most important parts of this civility burson to earth liberated. provin says. that the poet says that. i did the airports and also they are can really sing under the militia. you know the loyalty to them special to him or its they are call ition has had young men under blockade for too we are so ready and the saudis say it is aimed at preventing arms smuggling to they who threw up those you want to saying it is creating an imminent catastrophe with cities running out of fuel clean water four hundred thousand children starving why are the saudis more afraid of arms smuggling that causing this huge despicable humanitarian tragedy that is through yemen now is suffering from

a huge fall from the worst humanitarian crisis is because of war because of who because of. that is a really good testified that is a real. suffering from yemeni people in many people i don't know suffering from disease from hang good from teh mean from local phoenix to city local food to cation like off axis to. lot of yes we are suffering from all this thing and this suffering should be staub should be and yes lou good to have this look at should be lifted to another then this is that look then there are two one just then there's another question imagine the located is lifted right now imagine and the aid is flowing to those who need it but what if that also opens up routes to yemen for more weapons and yemen will be over flooded with even

more military weapons. what is the solution that we can we are calling for so if saudi and immigrants really they are really with yemen and they are really want yemen to go. to seoul to experiment and to face the truth and this is a very subverted the legitimate president they should i want to brizard intended to return to yemen to rule yemen. inside the civic better sense provence as that is liberated that is very important so this isn't how i deal with the i don't mean make you know the solution all on controlling you know i would visit that you know that is that is that how you. send receive for all. we need for with the whole with these and with the old you know grooves it's very

important the most important thing now is to hand it to do with drove the weavers from militia so we should as him and these help others were selves we should solve ai with problems and we can do libs i mean how can you solve your own problems how can you solve you your own problems as you have a nice if you're under a bloke eight and you're obviously can't solve the problem fully by yourself because a lot of pencil saudi arabia right now and i know you're calling for this location to lift it missed me this did it must be lifted but my question is and my question is lifted oh do you think saudis will listen to your calling for the leave to other . you know public speakers and women and men who are actually for peace are also calling on saudis to la louve to split case un is calling on the saudis to lift the blockade other humanitarian organizations are actually calling on the saudis to lift the blockade they're not listening to anyone. what dale what dialogue are you

talking about as there is no i'm fortunately there is no enough brush or. four years ago the end immigrates and did the international community should do that their international community should as saudi why do they do it do like that i did not it's just the statements they've made some statements the sad thing and by the way you are asking me about the blue cage that is led by saudi and in minutes but you don't ask me about the blockade that is by the by this is backwards from iran they have a sense too so that fourteen they are on makes easy in being in being in big gov this mission does so now we are really yemeni people suffer from to locate a terminal growth good will kids think there is a special but then to buy sell or buy buy buy have been the show for hosting and. hold the book at the buy buy soda and in minutes and this one took

a look at should be lifted not one i would brizard until now no under. house arrest in. his in the house like a house and this is why our president had did didn't return to london it's a limit its city why is it cool during the most important. i learned the parts of the airports in the south and invincibility percent of thier many liberated centers why why do they carry it to me she does. why so many of them as i throw the enemy now i called i don't go on they should i don't go in the sink they had to buy soda and in minutes then we should let our brains of the return to ident and to rule and then from yemen for the. ok time to call us how are we going to take a shot of that great right now i don't important we're going to take

a short break right now if you don't mind and when we're back we'll continue talking about this we'll continue talking to tom i called car manet yet many political activists who won the nobel peace prize and we'll talk more about the tragedy and unraveling in the country statement. a parting of ways european leaders talk of a future without the u.s. what is in store for the transatlantic alliance and much much more on this edition

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and we're back with a time up call caramagna a yemeni activist and the nobel peace prize winner talking about the civil war and humanitarian catastrophe in the country. you are a nobel peace prize laureate you got the prize for your role in the twenty eleven revolution in yemen five years have passed and the revolution hasn't brought any peace your country is being devastated by war a power struggle which all started five years ago was it all worth it. it's worth it absolutely yeah many people started a peaceful a great peaceful revolution in two thousand and eleven millions of fear many people left their weapons more than civility million piece of wood bins in their houses and went to the street with roses in front of all the violent or highly salles. forces so many people did agree to work on

a new country based on democracy based on human rights because the only rule of law we did the great work in the transitional period we gathered only in many parties even with the militia for who's the even with that without any solace in one table and we did a great national dialogue outcomes and we wrote a great draft of kind of situation we were just a step forward making putting this constitution for a friend but the cool head bent the careless habits of the coup the chaos the order isn't the result of the peaceful solution is the result of the counter revolution and it is the result of conflict that is you know conflict so it is not our fault but still we are in our revolution and we will you know that continue i wonder where and dream for change and we will when absolutely no you have blamed the

hearses for this crisis. amongst others who are and they're fighting for one side in this yemeni conflict but you also speaking against the saudis who are fighting there who says for the sake of president hadi is there anyone inside yemen you would want to work with. do you think that yemen is divided between a group backed by iran or by somebody and. it's no yemeni people they have they are they they are their own best their own strategic they own vision for the summer the seat of our country for democracy of our country for peace of our country for human reported limit of our country so it is not. it is not under challenge to be with this part or with that's a plus look and that. prevents is and the other i'm sure

that if i were to return to do that of a provision says it's the said that they are. the same things like the militia for which the both of them are the same both of them they don't want my country to be democrats what both of them they don't are our peaceful revolution when. and if you also there is this other provisions that isn't. with. that with who sees and also with the saudi and iran like for example murder but unfortunately i will not be able to go there because there is no plane that's gonna make me you know free on my movement outside yemen for pressuring for the yemeni freedom and for telling the world about our you know issue tackle i've seen you give many speeches and receive honorary doctorates in the west so it's good to see

the western audience informed about the situation how exactly are you helping the yemenis themselves right now i mean do you have contacts on the ground through whom you can do something for the people. yes of course you know i yes i am in exile now but the still am in the yemen a lot of people in yemen who i'm working with inside yemen everywhere in yemen the people is there the peaceful people that if we should have people is tell them the people who are against the cube ational few minutes and so he is there and the people who are against the cool of militia for who see the previous signal bryza that allison is there i am with them inside and i am with them outside and the most important thing that i carry the hope and the dream of people for making peace for my cancer now back in twenty eleven you spoke out against the out for

interfering in yemen's affairs but according to a cable leak released by wiki leaks you secretly arrange meetings with a saudi official back then and ask for help i want to ask you directly is a true. yeah of course through of course through i don't i i and it's true about that we can this didn't lead to said that i also visited the russian embassy and also i visit that i want to get in to see and i visited that british embassy french embassy cut to the embassy kuwaiti embassy on monday embassy i visited all the embassies in the security council in the new york calling them to see to the yemen and to know a lot about a human peaceful revolution and to help me in many people on facing the stated idea of the last sunday and to listen to our numbers but you also said that the leaders of this out a coalition will be prosecuted for the crimes stay committed in yemen how do you

imagine that happening when the coalition is backed by arab states like you said and that they're also backed by their western allies so who will prosecute saudis i call for the international justice to follow all those raters of the crimes against humanity all over the wound so i call the international criminal court to full old those perpetrators against the no human rights. that the one who are committed to the crimes against humanity so yes i'm i'm calling international theater criminal court to do its work and unfortunately the international community didn't do its work its duty is through responsibility. with those people who suffered from their dictators from their

rulers who are suffer from the massacres not just in yemen in yemen in syria in may on mount or in every really any where around the world as one coalition is fighting a rebel. and the rebel in itself is fighting its own allies at the same time al-qaeda has been given an opportunity to take advantage of the chaos does yet men in your opinion risk falling to the jihadi sua it's busy fighting al qaeda and any terrorist group if you want to really do face of them to fight them it is not just scammed by the security solution not just done by the rebels there is another solution the other solution is supporting democracy. way supporting peaceful movements supporting the development supporting the just as that is very important so in yemen people are you know facing all this is extremism

extremists feeble during down his son experience or if they will appear you know this time but also because of the solution for that how can we face them remember the full fee when we made i was peaceful revolution in two thousand and eleven during two years of peaceful missile two years there wasn't one spot on the tide so we give the alternative which is peaceful the struggle is full movement the struggle of don't behave to rid the son still this is the end of it says a citizen bibi being set up. in front of the voice of peaceful people a voice of chanting the blows of peaceful sacrifice for freedom. do you saying there should be a military intervention in your country can u.n. peacekeeping mission save the day. of course no of course no i'm calling. i'm calling god willing in many ways to start solving their issue by themselves

yemenis against this wall and eyes as i said before with the how can we stop that's the thing and other things there is grow out of correlation saudia and images should that equal basis in yemen and they have to let's i want to preserve that to return to yemen and that you will help me and many to to to to to build their country without in the you know armed intervention i call sank you so much for this emotional interview i wish you all the best all the best of luck in all your future endeavors and above all i wish peace for yemen for your beloved country thank you very much for being with us we're talking to tell all called karma on your many political activists and nobel peace prize laureates discussing the tragedy unfolding in yemen and the future of the country that is it for this

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