welcome to sophie and co i'm sophie shevardnadze as former again money president killed by his once a country's civil war takes an unexpected turn. and that is while a saudi imposed book a threatens hundreds of thousands with starvation what is official hold for yemen well i asked karma on a famous yemeni political activist and nobel peace prize winner. the civil war and you see the new bloody twist with president saleh killed by his former allies the battle lines are being violently drawn once again what will bring to the ravaged country. an opening for peace. in the stalemate of war and the law and starving civilians have to wait before the guns fall silent. got among the many

journalists an activist winner of the nobel peace prize welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us. yemen's former president has been killed by his former allies they who face the alliance between them which fought a saudi led coalition is no more sallys death good for yemen or is it only going to make situation worse. first of all thank you so fans for r.t. for. inviting me to this program. it's a really tragic and the x. rays event highly son. and we. are young and we didn't wish this and for him we made a great peaceful revolution and forced him to leave the authority peacefully we

gave him immunity we gave him also we all know him to have the money billions of dollars that he toke from the also duty during his thirty three years so we need to him to leave the authority with this money but unfortunately he choose to have allianz with the militia often who see and as he always do he is dancing with the with the snakes and now the snakes kill the him now the question the very important question what is next after are the sun the deaths this is a very important thing the situation in yemen well due to the rate will this who will continue will the wall will continue this answer should be this question should be unserved by the yemeni people yet many people should be now the

one who handled the solution the one that they stop the war and the one who'll stop that coup how come it's there is a lot of you know solution and yes who is that the many people should be will she talk about this in detail to our call so i want to be back to president solace as a nation now that he is that. his loyalists have no more leader do you think they will start fighting each other and fight. for power. here is we still who we are in the won't you know into the rule and also do you know room so the world isn't stopped this side yemen and also inside yemen so if it will be worse than that. then what had been to now nothing was that that done what does it have been in the now it's how can we stop this was how can we stop the spiting

between yemenis and also between saudi emirates and iran in our country and that it's a lot of things so let's not do and this is done to speak about the past let's talk about future how can we prevent any attempts in the possibility to kill you prevent the of this conflict. ok of the escalation i understand for for example one scenario is what president hadi is proposing great now right he is backed by the saudis and he has at that he will declare amnesty for anyone who stops fighting. do you think this promise could end the war. no of course not i'm calling president teddy i'm cool with it with who is the visit him it's president i'm calling to the. government to open that dialogue

to start to making because she think with me the show for those who see with all parties of him and they have to find solutions for yemenis they have to stop cuckoo and also they have to stop the world. and when we are within dialogue it's now we are now in the. other stead after the death of charlie son so there is a lot of chances now to make peace in yemen so brizard into how did i end this it demented new government should start a dialogue with the forces but also also who says no has to declare that they are redy to hand over the web as to then is it to me to also duty former president reached out to the saudis calling on them to lift the blockade on yemen with salis death now is there no more hope for the end of the locate. it's a bit and this is this is the duty. of the saudi and emirates

allianz none some do and emits indians and then they are held hell being of the visit to me to boot is a dent on restoring his also tedium and they can then that and they are they said that they are with the legitimate other thing with the president teddy but the kid the reality unfortunately the they are cuba in yemen they are to cuba gooding the. about the most important parts of this event to bursa it also liberated. prevents is the good the bad the posts. i did the airports and also they are the curious thing i did the militia. you know the yellow to to then special to him or its they are polish and has had young men under

blockade for too we are so ready and the saudis say it is aimed at preventing arms smuggling to they who threw up poles you want to saying it is creating an imminent catastrophe with cities running out of fuel clean water four hundred thousand children starving why are the saudis more afraid of arms smuggling that causing this huge despicable humanitarian tragedy that is through yemen now is suffering from a huge flow from the worst humanitarian crisis is because of war because of who because of. that is a really justified that is a real. suffering from yemeni people in many people all know suffering from disease from hanged good from teh mean from local phoenix to city local food to cation like off axis to. yes we are suffering from old this

thing and this suffering should be staub should be and yes lou good to have this look at should be lifted now then this is that look then there are one just then there's another question imagine the blockade is lifted right now imagine and the aid is flowing to those who need it but what if that also opens up routes to yemen for more weapons and yemen will be over flooded with even more military weapons. what is the solution that we can we are calling for so if somebody and him and it's revealed they are really with yemen and they are really want yemen to go. to seoul to experiment and to face the truth and this is a very subverted the legitimate president they should alone i want to brizard intended to return to yemen to rule yemen. inside the city there

since provence is that is liberated that is very important so this is the bad deal with the army can make you know the solution all on controlling you know i would visit that you know that is that is that how it's isis sent received for all. we need for with the host is and with all you know grooves it's a very important the most important thing now is to hand it to do with drove the weavers from militia so we should as him and these help others were selves we should solve ai with problems and we can do lives of people i mean how can you solve their own problems how can you solve you your own problems as you have a nice if you're under a bloke eight and you're always three can't solve the problem fully by yourself because a lot of pencil saudi arabia right now and i know you're calling for this location

bill if it missed me this did it must be lifted but my question is and my question is lifted who do you think saudis will listen to your calling for the leave to other. you know public speakers and women and men who are actually for peace are also calling on saudis to la louve to split case you and it's calling on the saudis to lift blockade other humanitarian organizations are actually calling on the saudis to lift the blockade they're not listening to anyone. what tale or dialogue are you talking about as there is no i'm fortunately there is no enough brush or. four years old and in merits i want to hear the international community should do that they international community should as saudi why do they lose do like that i think now it's just a statement if they've made some statements the something and by the way you are asking me about the blockade that is led by saudi and in it but you don't ask me

about the blockade that is by the by this is backwards from here on they are sister cells at fourteen they are on makes easy in being in being in big government at this mission and does so now we are real the yemeni people suffer from to locate internal rules could look at it there is a special but are led by cyber by by a militia for hosting and the like and home of the blue kids were led by by saudi and immunity and this one took a look at should be lifted now while i was brzezinski now under. house arrest in. his in the house like a house of justice is we have one our president how did didn't return to london why it's a limits city why is it cool buying the most important. lands i learned the parts of the airports in the south and in the seventy percent of fear

many liberated going to his wife why do they carry it to me she does. why so many of them as i throw the enemy now i called out of one nation i know coalition they had to buy soda and in minutes then we should let our bridges of the return to ident and to rule and then from yemen. ok total goals how are we going to take a shot of that great right now i did important we're going to take a short break right now if you don't mind and when we're a back we'll continue talking about this we'll continue talking to tom cole carr manet yet many political activists who won the nobel peace prize and we'll talk more about the tragedy and unraveling in the country statement.

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get off on getting the rest but those were the old vilest beatle songs those people are going to respect damn all of this but i was just this well is one of these i will ask him i want my family fancy car bomb i just got that already yes equestrian he thought of getting up there calling us implemented. yeah but a lot of problems just going to go. over when you are in charge of. your financial transactions or so.

they were back when to tell of our mon yemeni activist and the nobel peace prize winner talking about the civil war and humanitarian catastrophe in the country so i will call on now you are a noble peace prize laureate you got the prize for your role in the twenty eleven revolution in yemen five years have passed and the revolution hasn't brought any peace your country is being devastated by war a power struggle which all started five years ago was it all worth it. it's worth it absolutely yeah many people started a peaceful a great peaceful revolution in two thousand and eleven millions of fear many people

left their weapons more than civility million piece of wood bins in their houses and went to the street with roses in front of all the violent or highly southern. forces so yemeni people did a great work on stop listening in you country based on democracy based on human rights because the only rule of law we did the great work in the transitional period we gathered only in many parties even with the militia for who's the even with that without any solace allianz in one table and we did a great national dialogue outcomes and we wrote a great draft of could a situation we were just a step forward making putting this constitution for a friend but the cool head bent the killers had been so the coup the chaos the order isn't the result of the peaceful revolution is the result of the counter

revolution and it is the result of conflict that is you know conflict so it is not our fault but still we are in our revolution and we will you know that continue i wonder where and dream for change and we will when absolutely no you have blamed the hearses for this crisis. amongst others who are and they're fighting for one side in this yemeni conflict but you also speaking against the saudis who are fighting this is for the sake of president hadi is there anyone inside yemen you would want to work with. do you think that yemen is divided between a group backed by iran whether by somebody and. emits no yemeni people they have they are they they are their own best their own district easy they own vision floated someone to see if i want to continue for democracy if

i want to continue full piece of our country for human for didn't if i want them to so it does not say that. it is not under challenge to be with this part to read that's a plus look you've been exe exiled from the who see occupied parts of the country but what's stopping you from going back to the areas not controlled by them after all you've sat yemenis not just divided between a part back with iran another part that's backed by saudis it's all about yemeni people so why don't you go back. as i told you seventy per cent of the liberated. prevents is human from the brazilian the booted from the coup led by horses and the former president allison that is controlled by saudi and interests and i am against them and they are creating militias and that. prevents is

and the other i'm sure if i were will return to to that of a provision says it's the said that they are. the same things like the militia for which the both of them are the same both of them they don't want my country to do to be democrats what both of them they don't are our peaceful revolution thirty when. and if you also there is this other progress is that it isn't. with. that with who sees and also with the saudi and iran like for example murder but unfortunately i will not be able to go there because there is no plane that can make me you know free on my movement outside yemen for pressure and for yemeni freedom and for telling the world about our you know issue tackle i've seen you give many speeches and receive honorary doctorates in the west

so it's good to see the western audience informed about the situation how exactly are you helping the yemenis themselves right now i mean do you have contacts on the ground through whom you can do something for the people. yes of course you know i yes i am in exile now but the still am in yemen a lot of people in yemen who i'm working with inside yemen everywhere in yemen the people is there the peaceful people that if we should have people is tell then the people who are against the cube ational few minutes and so he is there and the people who are against the cool of militia for who see the previous signal bryza that allison is there i am with them inside and i am with them outside and the most important thing that i carry the hope and the dream of people for making peace for my cancer is now back in twenty eleven you spoke out against the out for

interfering in yemen's affairs but according to a cable leak released by wiki leaks you secretly arrange meetings with a saudi official back then and ask for help i wanted to ask you directly is that true. yeah of course through of course through i don't i i and it's true but then we can this didn't lead to said that i also visited the russian embassy and also i visit that i want to get in to see and i visited that british embassy french embassy cut to the embassy kuwaiti embassy on monday embassy i visited all the embassies in the security council in new york calling them to see to the yemen and to to know a lot about in yemen peaceful revolution and to help me in many people on facing the stated idea of the last sunday and to listen to a number say you also said that the leaders of the saudi coalition will be

prosecuted for the crimes stay committed in yemen how do you imagine that happening when the coalition is backed by arab states like you said and that they're also backed by their western allies so who will prosecute saudis i call for the international justice to follow all those raters of the crimes against humanity all over the wound so i call the international criminal court to full all those perpetrators against human rights. that the one who are committed to the crimes against humanity so yes i'm i'm calling international theater criminal court to do its work and unfortunately the international community didn't do its work its duty is to responsibility. with those people who suffered from their dictators from their rulers who are

suffer from the massacres not just in yemen and in yemen in syria in may on mount or in every really any where around the world as one coalition is fighting a rebel. and the rebel in itself is fighting its own allies at the same time al qaida has been given an opportunity to take advantage of the chaos does yand then in your opinion risk falling to the jihadi s. while it's busy fighting al qaeda and any terrorist group if you want to really do face of them to fight them it is not just can by the security solution not just done by the weapons there is another solution the other solution is supporting democracy. way supporting peaceful movements supporting the development supporting the just as that is very important so in yemen people are you know facing all this is extremism extremists see both during his son experience or

if they will appear you know this time but also there is another solution for that how can we face them remember sophie when we made i want peaceful revolution in two thousand and eleven during two years of peaceful missile two years there wasn't one spot almost died so we give the alternative which is peaceful the struggle this whole movement the struggle of build the hatred the small strokes of the love that says citizen bibi being set up. in front of the voice of peaceful people a voice of chanting the blows of peaceful sacrifice for freedom. do you saying there should be a military intervention in your country can i un peacekeeping mission save the day . of course no of course no i'm calling. i'm calling god willing

in many ways to start solving their issue by themselves and yemenis against this wall and eyes as i said before with the how can we stop that's the thing and other things that is go out of correlation saudia and images should that equal basis in yemen and they have to let's i want president to return to yemen and that you will help me and many to to to to to to build their country without in the. armed intervention thank you so much for this emotional interview i wish you all the best all the best of luck in all your future endeavors and above all i wish peace for yemen for your beloved country thank you very much for being with us we're talking to tell a whole carm on your many political activists and nobel peace prize laureates discussing the tragedy unfolding in yemen and the future of the country that is it

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