i mean. new revelations on a controversial murder case of that sparked chaos in the german city of chemist's as a prison guard admits he leaked the arrest warrant of a migrant suspect. but. ten days ahead of sweden's general election anger flares at a rally where a parliamentary candidate claims that he was attacked by a migrant. from the power of dialogue washington d.c. classic five hours of secret conversations between former u.s. and russian presidents bill clinton and boris yeltsin. we have a full news update to with my colleague collin bray at the top of the hour but right now the experts on cross talk debate the future of the transatlantic alliance

stay with us. hello and welcome to crossfire where all things considered i'm teetotal about the parting of ways european leaders talk about the future without the u.s. what is in store for the transatlantic alliance and much much more on this edition of crossfire. cross talking some global trends i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bobbitt she's a political analyst we spoke nick international and in cyprus we cross to alex christopher he is the director. writer for the duran dot com are

a gentleman crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciate alex let me go to you first then in cyprus interesting trend going on we have european leaders speaking out about a future without the united states in terms of security arrangements specifically nato and with the impending sanctions visa vi the iran situation some europeans were thinking out of the box for a janes for example we have president mccrone of france talking about aggressive isolationism what's your take go ahead. no chance that they'll be able to do anything without the united states i think it's all talk by opinion i think that you're up to. two owned by the united states and to me this is just this is all about trump you know these these leaders. these guys these neo liberals what's been left of the obama crew so to speak they just don't like trump they

don't like to deal with trump they don't like his rhetoric and so you know they've got a little bit of trouble arrangement syndrome in europe but i don't think there's any chance in the near to medium term that europe can do much without the united states i think we saw that with younker i think you are went to washington and pretty much capitulated to whatever trump wanted yeah but mark i mean i agree with alex broadly speaking but there are very specific things like energy where the germans and the austrians in the italians etc are going to go down their own path when it comes to energy security they cannot rely upon an outside power here this is what the brass tacks of it all you know european leaders can say yeah we'll spend more money on nato but they probably won't do ok so there are important rhetorical areas but there are certain policy areas that are very real yeah i agree with alex i think that what we're hearing. right now is

a lot of impotent whining and hand-wringing coming from the e.u. leaders it is personal every other week they're begging the united states to resume the mantle of global military gemini and the transatlantic leadership as they don't have to do they don't have but they intend to wait trump out they think they can wait him out whether it's another year or two years however many years they think they can wait him out they're going to continue of course with nord stream the germans are not going to back down to that project has gone ahead too far and their energy security is a risk there is going to be no e.u. army that's a lot of hot air they can't even if it was a vision when it comes to north yeah when it sanctions when it comes to nordstrom is there as tested and i think they do not expect that to be carried through sanctions on e.u. companies when it comes to we run that they're having to deal with right now this blocking statue in from one thousand nine hundred six with cuba that reviving they

know very well it will have no effect whatsoever of the big european majors told tall mayors. alliance. danielle steel they're already pulling out and they're going to replace it and i could be that we could get russia and china russia and i they're going to replace it is this really all when we look at how the european leaders are reacting to trump because i would agree with you but really at the center of this i guess is the paris climate accord and importantly the iran deal is they see the united states is not a partner that they can trust because they can the u.s. can change its mind it can pull a lot of internationally agreed treaties and agreements i agree with. you know basically the respond point but i agree that you will do anything serious to cope with i mean the european commission has just mocked eighteen million goalposts. in support over a unicorn and this is

a new we are mending like you need to meet here now in a lot of small private enterprises huge amount of money right. so i don't expect it to be to be a significance all of the nordstrom to our kind of little disagree i think it will always be under threat because you need one of the european companies has already said it would pull out of the project if the united states indeed impose sanctions on any european companies participate in it in general i think if you take a broader look at all basically liberalism is that a goal would be in the european union that i do or would you can make alliances with extremist nationalists they made an alliance with the nationalists in ukraine they met in the lines with the nationalists in point no they're coordinating with them when the nationalism is directed outwards not and i think is largely. yes they're making alliances with nationalists who acted against russia against china

against big countries which acted in but which of their outer liberal ideology start again and then we can make and i want to is with american national just to my mind you know conservatives the so-called neo cons they are american nationalists and basically you can make an alliance with them again struck me let's say with the you know that's why there was no criticism over the u.s. sanctions against russia from the e.u. that criticism of the iranian sanctions but no group of them over russia's if you wrap up this point here alex to me again we are in broad agreement here doesn't it just end up being empty rhetoric and mean it is just as egg on its face because you can say one thing they can talk about developing a european wide swift system but if they don't they don't know if that's right but if they don't do it where's the credibility where's the credibility alex yeah i mean about current doesn't have much credibility at this point and i think when the leaders are talking about moving away from from the u.s. i think you're exactly right. i don't think there's much to it and i think it even

an even more important point is that inside the e.u. they can't reach much consensus so while you can have a motto in america saying one thing you have other countries that are opposed to north stream are opposed to france and germany as policies within the e.u. and that also stretches to my creation and other issues so the e.u. just just cannot act as a single unit to muster the strength to move away from the u.s. again because they can't even talk among themselves the muslim mark. please put into perspective what is going on surrounding syria right now because depending on who you listen to beyond and i don't i'm not talking about the mainstream media as i don't talk about it very much but there seems like a lot of rumblings going on right now go ahead ok so we're heading to a major watershed moment a flashpoint in the syrian conflict which is something we've been talking about the on the show for for well over a year now which is this is this province bordering turkey in the northwest of

syria it's a mountainous area that is almost entirely under their control of h.g.'s height to head off which even the u.s. state department recognizes is out or jihadist groups of various sundry alliances that are always fighting amongst each other under the umbrella of all who sues are and t. they've they've all recognized the syrian army has as finished the fight in the south and they're now moving to retake good live in libya supplied from turkey turkey basically hoped to turn it into another area of turkish occupation on its proxy role it hasn't worked so the syrian military or russian forces are marshalling their breadth of this storm this will be the largest battle of the syrian conflict so far there are somewhere between seventy and one hundred thousand jihad is under arms and a lot. a number of people that are close to the situation are given see this as

a proxy confrontation because we there are reports that elements of the u.s. navy are moving closer in to the onto the coast of syria the defense department denies it but at the same time says that they're prepared for any things like kind of want to have it both ways but is this a proxy attentional compensation i think it's something war basically what we can see in the next few days is a false flag chemical attack in syria which was the russian the ministry of defense actually russian and russian minister of the kind of defense has been growing in their politics during the last four or five days it got no traction in europe no traction in the united states pentagon said that we would strike if we if if we care about a chemical attack i can't comment that may happen but it may come from the rebels and the white counts are operate and activity on that so this is the first danger that it's not only the u.s.

ships operate in that two big russian military vessels have crossed the boss for a straight with. russian naval girl. in so the there will be more calming and this is becoming more and more dangerous situation but there is also another point that i would like to stress the russian foreign minister raised i think a very important issue there are documents in the u.n. security council which basically for bit the european and american allies to economically help those areas of syria which are under government control well the network sites here document entitle to parent to us and principals or u.n. assistance drawn by the director of political affairs geoffrey that particular affairs of united nations jeffrey feltman this is really cruel because when you are obsess we didn't destroy syria russia destroyed syria you know i read it in your mind it's items that. putin wants us to pay for something he destroyed oh this is

just a lie this is who says there are bad well we're going to do that's very orwellian we can have another or william story in this part of the program it's about john john mccain let me go to alex and finish up here owns on syria because it does look to me that this is some kind of final attempt by the western powers to make a statement to be we still have mattis believe or not the defense secretary talking about a future without assad i thought we got beyond that point but no they keep going back to that same point go ahead alex yeah they just they just can't let it go and i agree with mark in the media and to the point of going back on europe it's not only the united states that is making claims that they're ready to attack syria you have france and you have the u.k. jumping on board and saying that if there is a chemical weapon strike something that everyone in alternative media is screaming about for us to zero hedge everyone is saying that there is going to be

a chemical weapons false flag the mainstream media is not reporting any of it but if there is yeah and if there is that you can france have also said that they will get involved well they found that we're going to have to jump in here we're going to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some global trends staying with our team. joining me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us from the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. that i would have that how can i better not i am not out of the dugout at that not out of the mouth of the mahdi the day of the night i got out of germany. this was

a good time to. try to move there i'm doudna mom. no not that i want to get my little money not why not act and then again why exxon and the whole people we believe just a little bit here. are a lot of my kids i don't want them up a soldier not even a lot of the moment i've got a mother how do it all the kids are there a lot of them out i'm a little like a might be old enough to go out to the people i don't want to put out a look at my work party when i don't know them of the blood it. just. doesn't financial survival john that it was all about money laundering first to visit this business in the three different. oh good that's a good start well we have our three banks all set up here maybe something in europe

something in america or something overseas in the cayman islands or do we do all these banks were complicit in north of congress to decide if they didn't fold to their money to do some serious wounds or ok let's see how we did while we've got home got a nice laundry watch for max and for stacy oh beautiful jewelry and how about the puck on luxury automobile again for max you know what money laundering is highly illegal here for a bunch of guys record. welcome back to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some global trends. but let me go back to alex and cyprus here aleksey you and i few days ago i had a long conversation about what's going on in south africa and then lo and behold

again our conversation was about the. reported murder of white farmers and the the seizure of land without compensation and how the south african government is dealing with it grappling with it politically and internationally and then a number of sources particularly tucker carlson over at fox news talked about a few other people that well known you tubers you and i talked about it and lo and behold the south african government seems to be pulling back your thoughts. yeah there they are taking notice and you noted in our discussion peter that it's the p.r. part that the south african government is very worried about and president trump's tweet brought a lot of attention to what's going on in south africa it's a very complicated issue but what we're seeing now is south africa trying to explain how the how the land expropriation what other people are calling theft is going to take place and in their comments they're saying that they're not to be taking all the land from farmers they are going to leave the land that is owned by

zulu tribe members intact and then they're just going to be moving on other land they're about to take a very big piece of property with the first land seizure from a guy named yohann steenkamp and the funny thing about his lead is that he bought it twenty years ago at all after the massacre of governments right after apartheid sacked after apartheid they're not going to compensate him whatsoever and he said that he will defend he will defend his lead well so things are really heating up so much for the rule of law thoughts on this mark. it's a complicated issue to say seventy two percent of farmland in south africa is owned by whites and they are ninety percent of the population the land restitution act was originally in the acted to restore land that had been seized from black farmers during the decades long rule by the a part of the u.s. and u.k. backed apartheid regime it seems there have been some excesses towards that and

a lot of it is has actually happened a lot of it has simply been political rhetoric from within some of the more extremist members of the african national congress and that is what maybe has been walked back more than anything else trump has blown this all out of proportion in an attempt to rally his the white nationalist part of his base meanwhile. maybe speaking up for the rule of law mark i think that goes a bit too far but i think well there is no way that there are so many people that if we just lost exactly and you need to have a conversation about that you can't it's not what how do you start it's complicated well i would like to point some of our attention to the police she told the european union a vote because when the land seizures where underway in zimbabwe it could point and the e.u. who created that there was a lot of noise about it in the media no there is bad anything and what is very

important talking about human rights violations you know africa david cameron when he wasn't polish several years ago suggest that stolpe in any economic aid to those african countries which do not recognize single sex marriage which is a cruel decision because a lot of african countries are mostly him and again africa doesn't have to be on the same standard with the u.k. you know you can jump to a condor three hundred years but came out and did it he enforced it i don't know thirty. that me and i would go america there at the same time tour in africa right now and they don't even mention it they just see that the you know there's a maid is very proud. to zero point seven or their budget for help to the developing countries huge amount of money right and then i want to talking about quality a lot of africa and they don't respond to questions the african union was against.

what's up but what's the u.s. did not do it to some extent that you know the whole mantra is that you accept western values and you accept. a western tradition when it comes to racism being anti-racist the rule of law eccentric cetera that's the reason why do they don't want to talk about it ok because all these issues in south africa are in play and as mark said it's complicated as well i would say that you have to be a part of a fashionable minority whites insult for minority but they're not fashionable hell they're not victims enough for liberals to care about this is a big topic i'm going to say on and alex i want to go back to you talking about human rights i'm reading a title. from the from the the washington post by a woman a woman named jennifer rubin the human rights community lost a champion. who is she talking about oh there's a picture of john mccain your thoughts

a picture of john mccain standing next to all of china bach the neo nazi leader of you who form the social nationalist party and then went on to form some abode i don't want as one of the three big leaders that mccain who even the ones who are in mainstream media grudgingly admit ok it's a neo nazi alex jump and a picture is worth a thousand words and i think. it's ridiculous to see everyone left and right from hillary clinton to lewis to bernie sanders. cause you know cortez raising job mccain as as a peacemaker as a man of peace. i do people have people for god in libya syria ukraine iraq bob bomb iran i mean it's it's comical at this point you know it's you know the demon is you know john mccain was an exemplar of of american

foreign interventions military interventions around the world and the interesting thing is that just about every single intervention john mccain supported and it up in failure and misery what you have is you don't you don't see that in the washington post just don't see the voting fulcher see also david to get a shift who is praising mccain for being against climate change and he quotes of mccain a sane voice thing i can do is still sell my soul to the devil i won't do it even for the public and him and he well you know because i don't back that statement out of snowfall of the people killed in vietnam and i can never be pent up for that and he did not sell his soul to the devil and now i think there is a very interesting story about that i think we should all thank mccain for not inviting mr. mark has just mentioned down who called for at the exodus jules

in to create mccain didn't ask him to carry his question but he asked some moves up a prominent liberal anti put an activist who suggested all of the reach businessmen even on the porch and regime i understand you know in the united states and europe he will be carrying mccain's coffin one mccain's personal way to teach and i saw that it's like about twenty people you know how can they carry all of that i thought it would be the way i have it i have it for you ok so. who thought of the song of the. bin ladin mentor had this to say twitter he paid tribute to mccain and said that his death is very suspicious cummings right now i am considering the honorable stance he has taken towards the revolution of al-qaeda in syria. yes funeral for several months really

and as we all know that donald trump isn't going to go there all right i want to change gears i want to talk about north korea. we've heard from media reports that a belligerent letter came from north korea to the state department about what motives and and questions the administration may have about pursuing this peace process here where it's a very sketchy media reports and interpret ing it seems to be a bit murky as well go ahead alex yeah the meeting the letter was interpreted by reuters who kicked it off by calling it belligerent and i was in their title they have since retracted the word belligerent from their title because the real contents came out and it was anything but the ledger and basically north korea was just asking the trumpet ministration we have three points that we agreed upon what . going on with these three points how are we moving forward and so this was this was a really poor attempt to frame the narrative that north korea was threatening the

united states you know. mark it's as if the media and the left don't want a peace process to be put into place and i guess the deep state is that want to lose all those contracts that it's had for decades pouring money into the korean peninsula yeah i think part of this is simply because this is seen as trump's admission and even bucking his own administration that at this point the democrats have called so far in bed with the neo cons that you can't even tell even on which side of the bed at this point but what north korea asked is simply we've agreed on three points following the singapore statement and the power. between north korea and south korea that we start improving relations we signed a priest three d. finally ending the north korean war decades later then we start talking about didn't it clear a zation of the peninsula the whole putting the whole peninsula and then you know

this is predictable the trump administration wants to drop this because you know again i saw this is trump's initiative that his own his own neo con administration wasn't behind but what's important going forward is how south korea and moony reaction to this do they madison announced that u.s. military drills will wreak amends on the peninsula is south korea going to play along that's what i want to know. when i. make a split it said that the united states right now at over twenty eight you know and they said was. known from. the vice chairman all of north korea and that there's been a different kind of the u.s. america show us some of the korean media tree exercises every year. right we've kind of thousands of troops with the most sophisticated weapons task

that you know weapons that can destroy you on the on the in several minutes this is not but he didn't just to let the problem here but i think what's really until going to finish on this point i think what's really interesting what we've said on this program from the very beginning really it's what's at the what's most important here is how the two koreas engage each other keep your eye on that that's all the time we have many thanks to my guest here in moscow and in cyprus this is the end of our broadcast segments stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember cross talk groups. you know world of big partisan movie lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to

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