being of long said but has nine eleven been forgotten by us politicians president assad of syria tried to explain to c.b.s. is charlie rose now in the news for other reasons that u.s. military action in syria was linked to nine eleven and not in a good way before you begin the interest of the ninety one called to through the war that's going to support. and the theme people the. american indian of and. what country would defacto support those who attacked it as trump's pick for secretary of state has said the u.s. is exceptional unlike a perceived enemy like russia this is a this is a unique exceptional country russia is unique but not exceptional the usa is surely exceptional seventeen years ago after the nine eleven attacks al-qaeda was the enemy it was also the enemy of britain and some might say britain is exceptional in supporting those who have attacked it too they are bound together by the single evil ideology of islamist extremism that preaches hatred so stiffish it

promotes sectarianism and yet as the international community including russia and china now work with president assad of syria to destroy al qaeda affiliates that are nice is diane what is treason maybe in saying up until even she's a taxpayer funding of those said links to al qaeda we need a political transition to a syria without assad but that tourism has long been a party on the wrong side of history for mandela to a end and it is on nine eleven tomorrow that salvador allende and all those the disappeared as a result of u.s. and british backed fascist cool be mourned well one man who has campaigned ardently against western interference in foreign powers is a drama is a former u.s. green party vice presidential candidate and joins me now via skype from colombia in south america jamie thanks for coming back on the program what happened on the eleventh of september one thousand nine hundred seventy three well you know that was. the day of infamy was a day in which the signal

a very aggressive term by the western powers led by the us to overthrow all of the progress the governments there were still in existence throughout the world it was a day which not only did they all with rhodri a unity government but in the aftermath they imposed a new model one bit became known as new liberalism has milton friedman the chicago school of the kohanim it's often talked about in context of chile just give us some context just of about the violence in ninety seven three on september the eleventh and its immediate aftermath kill killings torturings and disappearances it was a it was a situation that can only be characterized as internal social terrorism the pinochet forces were committed to wiping out any traces of the agenda government and more importantly a popular support for that or that government so we saw and we know that there were

people who were tortured. thousands disappeared i mean many people lost their lives the the direct numbers of always been a dispute but what what what was important about about chile also was that is signaled a. two to progressive forces in the region and really around the world that the u.s. and western forces were committed to using maximum violence in order to protect their model direct military intervention a political destabilization was going to be the new weapons then new but the weapons that were to be used. to undermine any progress of attempts to advance a progressive and radical agenda britain's foreign secretary barres johnson resigned quite recently a new person is now here cherami hunt and he tweeted it was an honor to meet henry

kissinger in eighty two he did that in the past couple of weeks. still the echoes of september the eleventh one hundred seventy three in a tweet like that. of course and as it is relatively consistent consistent with the decision by the blair government and the and the positions of a many people in lead the current government in britain and is consistent with sort of generalized western opinion when it comes to a people like kissinger and his resume is involved in september the eleventh because it was the architect he's one that gave the green light is he in britain tomorrow mainstream media if it's going to cover the hemisphere you're in it he's the southern part of it it's going to be talking about venezuela a believer in revolution that sent me to conspiration from an salvador allende and in a way they've covered him and he's saying you see this is the kind of mess left wing governments get and that american countries and central american countries into way

and that's part of the ideological war to being waives. part of the war that we saw waged against chile i had a direct military component of course but it was really the illogical war that was an even more important instrument that was used you know invest drug war and subsequently so the characteristic of the characterizing of the venezuela process as a failed process and membrane going into into the equation the fact that the economy has been systematically undermined by the us and western forces is part of that it is a logical war and we understand why they're being waged and we understand they potential consequences of that but you know we now surprise that those kind of characteristics are we not surprised that people have talked about the the undermining the peace process in colombia we're not surprised that people are

calling for. more western intervention into the reach of course tomorrow is also seventeen he is. and set another nine eleven the one in washington and new york do you think they'll be much time spent in the united states reflecting on the impact of u.s. foreign policy that some argue catalyzed that nine eleven. you know it remains to be seen as as we get further ensure that way from the original incident we can see that the state has been quite successful in using that attack to to rationalize its aggressive policies around the world we know that the so-called war on terror continues but the kinds of connections that should be made on nine eleven we don't think will be made i mean is is completely ironic or maybe consistent that we had this war on terror laws on nine eleven. two thousand and one and

against cato but today in syria we see that the trumpet ministration has warmed the syrian government and not you in involved assault in a military attack on a territory is being basically controlled by al-qaeda and this no political reaction or political outcry are from the from the u.s. population or u.s. political representatives so it calls into question or really reveals the the phoniness of this war on terror and the fact that it's been used as an instrument to the band's us global hegemony more than anything else those kinds of connections i'm not going to be made on nine eleven this year but many of us we'll make those connections they mean britain and the united states are repeating history again supporting islam is like they did the mujahideen in afghanistan that

would create al qaeda. those forces are have been there have been a very valuable to them without they those forces there be no justification for britain and for the us to still be physically in the middle east militarily well from the british media viewpoint the public came out to mourn a great us politician recently john mccain of course did support all those policies whether it be in afghanistan pre or post nine eleven what did you make of the unities to senator john mccain an attempt to searing gauge and the most crass and strange historical revisionism that i've seen in quite some time it was a individual that is they recognize warmonger or not seem conflict and intervention by the u.s. or western alliance or that he was opposed to it he is lionized as a warrior for peace there were also tweets from british politicians and from the

british leader jeremy colvin but german covens pendent paris that were over there when he signed it he disagrees with what you just said quite a lot he tweeted saying mccain was a was a great man but that's the kind of liberal left opportunism that we see now only in the us really throughout the western world it is it is opportunism and his political confusion we're not going to be able to move the people into real sustain opposition to the one percent as long as we allow ourselves to to be even a belated in this illogical war to prop up into legitimize individuals who are whole so everything that people like bernie sanders says he's supposed to be you know in favor of but in another sense bernie sanders position is is that this is going to just remember he was a wonder said that the saudis should get their their hands dirty in the so-called

middle east and right up that is when you have the obama. and saudi war being launched in yemen so these are this is the nature of a progressive politicians in places like united states of america but just finally have a briefing we talk about the chilean anniversary the washington new york then eleven anniversary this in the next few days as the ten year anniversary of the collapse of lehman brothers on wall street what do you think that means as to how we should reflect a decade on from the beginning of the crash that would of course create the austerity we know the connection to should be may which should be the the the obvious. conclusion that there is a crisis a crisis of capitalism that has had a negative impact on main as a people are around the world i am that this should be another wake up call or

a reminder if you will that we're not going to be able to address the material needs of the people globally as long as we continue to allow this is this greedy one percent to prop up a system that is then fundamental to climb so making that connection looking seriously at at the structure of the u.s. economy. and around the world are looking at the kinds of jobs are being created are looking at the kinds of. we're all still occurring taking us in populist. resources from the pockets of the people into the military industrial complex pockets these are the kinds of connections we should be able to make but we are at a time of raga thank you. my pleasure after the break the mosque of an icky we examine the future of war propaganda in the political abuse of the working classes with british painter and sculptor paul way. of going underground.

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the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. welcome back in the first half of the show we looked. the destructive reverberations of western intervention the thousands killed under u.s. backed general augusto pinochet and the millions killed wounded or displaced and continuing was in the middle east from syria or afghanistan to the u.s. u.k. made bombs dropped on children in yemen but also the use of propaganda in the role of the media in the cheerleading of these wars from the hunt for w m d's to the coverage of the poisoning of spies pile when scotland yard scout a terrible you cannot confirm russian government involvement but the front pages of papers can the futility of war and the abuse of power is examined by british artist paul wager his new exhibition requiem for the emblem of power is at the dead in the gallery in central london deputy editor sebastian packer went to speak to him with

regard to current refers i think the mr reaction of power is very concerning at least to me as an artist and i think the abuse of power was probably the man moved a version with regard to. the title theme of the exhibition. the abuse of power can be seen around the world in the forms of wars these two pieces here from your reflections on war series okee timely so once by duty to make them well initially some probably getting on for thirty years ago i was at the durham light infantry museum in durham city you had my three sons who were just small boys at the time with me and julie my wife and we were looking through the museum and of course as human boys are interested in tongues and artifacts of war and so forth then we had to grit in the sort of course of the i came

across a german second world war helmet which was in a glass display humans and it was a home which had a an entry point of a bullet hole at the back the best of the helmet and. to the left on the side of the what would be the left was a massive distortion where the act exit point of the bullet had to oversee penetrated the school and come out again at the other side and it made me think looking at my three sons the father of the man would have had the same experience of love and affection for his boy the same as i had for my three sons but it also made me think regarding not just the victim of the tragedy but also the perpetrator of the crime as it were and also that the young man was in retreat so he wasn't a threat he was overseas running away and i just felt. with respect to him and his parents and again the reminder of my three children it would be nice to make

a sort of small memorial to him you know that individual aspect of conflict one case in thousands millions of young men that were killed in two world wars so that was the beginning of the reflections on the war series that got mixed reservations oversea about war in general but i think the fact that the sophisticated element of. warfare is quite worrying it's like only only bus sculpture which was a sculpture after that i started on after almost a victim. grubby or eminent is a very powerful statement but it's a very personal statement similar to that of the individual consequences of action with regard to this young man who was in retreat it means in roughly.

and then it is pretty frictions a waiter's more serious much as we men now great afflictions do which is now in the twenty first century great afflictions a waiter's more savior as much as remained water we're going to do about the implication and the consequences of what's going on and the option of not just individuals in my case which are we're talking about but with nations like america . with the current situation with iran it's very very difficult to digest the propaganda that we're all fed with regard to the gist of it of these actions of magination is throughout the world so it moves away from this individual conflict which was which was initially when i was very interested in the same with tony blair in iraq everyone knows now that the there wasn't any threat of. you know weapons of mass destruction but it's a little bit too late now and the consequence of iraq has escalated in syria and my

view is that a look at the current issues with. mr trump in these heavy hundred aspect of political shenanigans is that is this is a softening up of the public in preparation for a further i suspect of conflict in iran and it worries me because the ordinary people in iran of the people who are going to suffer from the town of civilian. implemented by america and like was in turkey you know the financial situation there is quite alarming and i think we need to be privy to the reasons without folger one of the paintings. struggle is against the authorities do you think that prices like these back in the day or do you think that the media is now trying to separate more and more people will instead and from the bible is a very profound and i mean it's very very powerful and i find it's very very true

because unfortunately we find our leaders do exploit the power to go out to turn to manipulate things and the mrs mason example examples reason that tends to say one thing and then she's no sooner said it and she realizes the consequences of its decision and she manipulates it and changes it and i think this is a an aspect of politics which is very very concerning and it would certainly make reference that biblical reference very very valuable and relevant in current political issues and certainly those political issues when the us was when politics fails it's the next step is war and does not resolve anything if you think in this in the in the short period between the first world war from the second world war when you think of the millions of men in combat that lost their lives on women of

course was anything learned about you know it would appear not in the depressed area of the united kingdom that i'm from which is to the side in particular how people we've got one of the highest if not the highest unemployment level in the country we got into the side of i think i believe we've got the highest level of prostitution and drug abuse and it appears to me that. it's alright having worked in class of zero use and you look at the implication of those values when the when the minus fight was on with mrs thatcher and so full of. and i always think. in so much that it's ok to have political manipulation to suppress working class values and working class people but on the other hand when it comes to conflict the nation is dependent on those working class men because they're the ones who go to rule the sleeves up and go out and do the dirty work of the mistah direction of

politics and i find that a lot and certainly today you look at the aspect of modern day warfare with troops are sent out afghanistan etc the rules of engagement to be different from the british to the americans so i find it rather alarming that we have a conflict but politicians say well yes we've got to look at the moral issues and the moral values related to pulling the trigger in this particular situation so a young man is expected maybe nineteen or twenty to establish the engagement direction from politicians and think well should i do this by which time it could be dead it's very complex and we introduce that element of morality which to me if we were concerned about morality we wouldn't be there in the first place we wouldn't be in these wars which really is a tragedy for young men and it's very very sad and i think we need to one of the

lies the implication of this and hopefully through the works of art that after it is over many years it's. the maining and there's a purpose there's a message there's a level of communication and quite frankly i look at cook's rate and i look at what's in cork street and what's in it morton and so forth at the royal. to me for example i look at that and think will is this really relevant to the twenty first century you know we talked about the twenty first century and the levels of excellence levels of technique and craftsmanship seem to have dissipated not all not all in all cases but in a certainly a vast majority of and i think we need to look closely that are so that the public can think well this has a maining it's got a purpose you have a piece of code mosque iraqi and you offer your last exhibition was called moscow

ticky i guess based on the poem about the mosque or a piece of. thought look to reflect what that poem says about what happened that day i think it was a very relevant sturton with regard to someone being honest about the true implication of what happened. but in my opinion it was no different. so many years own when winston churchill set the police on the striking miners this was before the the money strike of the seventy's with margaret thatcher of course politicians tend to overreact i think in some cases i think with regard to the. the churchill episode where he did set the place on the minus i find that very disappointing with regard to the profile that winston churchill has of the nation and likewise with margaret thatcher with the issues of the nineteen seventies and now particular where i live it's surrounded by dormant former mining

communities once which were thriving with every house hope you provide now you know a lot of the house a border to the whole economies to each engine in the mining community and in the ship ship building community in sunderland which is very sad but there again politicians make decisions in the go to stand by them the muscular nicky was in. exhibition whereby the major piece of the exhibition. was a a piece of sculpture called erotic smile or a mess cupid us which by coincidence happens to be the motto of the spoil their symbol is the black rose and then moscow in the bottom is rather small or i'm a scoop of dust which means greed is the root of evil i believe the root cause of most of the conflict we have is because the round but all bogeyman money suddenly

it's quite blatantly obvious with the political aspect to certain elements of our own society that it's very very true you know if you look at people working for zero hour contracts minimum working with age and so forth and yet we tool that employments it's hardest for so many years but what we don't others is that a lot of these people their own zero contracts so again it's manipulation of the true facts it isn't the true picture it's the propaganda that they want us as ordinary working people to actually sit through the course what happens is puts working class people against the values of people who are unemployed through probably no fault of their own at the end of the day it appears that bunkers run europe not politicians have had it as a master bag of their without a small wager if you were to go and see both exhibition requiem for the end of the power you can go to the dead yani gallery of cork street in central london wednesday's show comes from the home of sheffield steel and we talked to rajiv

majid the british from mali lord bath of the south yorkshire city deal then keep in touch with us via social media that's it for the show we'll see you on wednesday the birthday of one of us renowned reputed political prisoners ought to be imprisoned native american activist leonard peltier called great of modern brando to die the padrone by barack obama has been celebrated in music by rage against the machine pete seeger harry belafonte jackson browne mos def as you. bumpus pushing the europeans to understand that. we have to be together because the only way to be to get there means reacting to these threats is say i think the traced straits of triumphalism or go straight for your. prosecution will need to become almost. a full. court where you

question the thread you'll find somebody known to us you do i mean yeah yeah i mean political pressure on that i need to know through security genocide knows when to pull your bundled up business models he was my american corporations doubt he's sold on could be mental disease. he controls the scene and the solution. lies up in association with people. i knew when he saw it is just really up to the team to an investigative ducky.