the president trump referred to in his campaign for the presidency it was a mistake the war in iraq we spread two trillion dollars thousands of lives we don't even have it a rare is taking over iraq with the second largest oil reserves in the world obviously it was a mistake so george bush made a mistake we can make mistakes but that one was a beauty we should have never been in iraq we have disable ised the middle east it's something both moscow and beijing of long said but has nine eleven been forgotten by u.s. politicians president assad of syria tried to explain to c.b.s. is charlie rose now in the news for other reasons that u.s. military action in syria was linked to nine eleven and not in a good way before is against the interests of the ninety one called to through the war that's going to support. and the thing people dirty. american indian of and. what country would defect or support those who attacked it has trump's pick

for secretary of state has said the u.s. is exceptional unlike a perceived enemy like russia this is a this is a unique exceptional country russia is unique but not exceptional the usa is surely exceptional seventeen years ago after the nine eleven attacks al-qaeda was the enemy it was also the enemy of britain and some might say britain is exceptional in supporting those who have attacked it too they are bound together by the single evil ideology of islamist extremism that preaches hatred so stiffish it promotes sectarianism and yet as the international community including russia and china now work with president assad of syria to destroy al qaeda affiliates that are nice is diane what is treason me been saying up until even she's a taxpayer funding of those said links to al qaeda we need a political transition to a syria without assad but that tourism has long been a party in the wrong side of history for mandela. and then it is on nine eleven

tomorrow that salvador allende and all those the disappeared as a result of u.s. and british backed fascist coup will be mourned well one man whose campaign ardently against western interference in foreign powers is a germ of iraq as a former u.s. green party vice presidential candidate and joins me now via skype from columbia in south america jumma thanks for coming back on the program what happened on the eleventh of september one nine hundred seventy three well you know that was a day of infamy it was a day in which that a signal a very aggressive term by the western powers led by the u.s. to overthrow all of the progress the governments there were still in existence throughout the world it was a day which not only did they all with over the unity government but in the apps america they imposed a new model when the it became known as new liberalism yes milton friedman the chicago school of the kohanim it's often talked about in context of chile just give

us some context just of about the violence in nine hundred seventy three on september the eleventh and its immediate aftermath killed killings torturings and disappearances it was a it was a situation that can only be characterized as an internal social terrorism the pinochet forces were committed to wiping out any traces of the government and more importantly a popular support for that or that government so we saw and we know that there were people who were tortured. thousands disappeared i mean many people lost their lives the you direct numbers i've always been in this group what what what what was important about about chile also was that is a. two to progressive forces in the region and really around the world that the u.s. western forces were committed to using maximum while and you noted. protect their

model direct military intervention a political destabilization was going to be the new weapons then new but the weapons that were to be used. to undermine any progress there but something to add bands a progressive and radical agenda britain's foreign secretary boris johnson resigned quite recently a new person is now here jeremy hunt and he tweeted it was an honor to meet henry kissinger in a tweet it that in the past couple of weeks. still the echoes of september the eleventh i did seventy three in a tweet like that. of course and as it is relatively consistent consistent with the decision by the blair government and the new and the positions of a many people him lead the current government in britain and is consistent with sort of generalized western opinion when it comes to a people like kissinger and activities humans involved in september the eleventh

because it was the the architect he's one that gave the green light is he in britain tomorrow mainstream media if it's going to cover the hemisphere you're in it he's the southern part of it it's going to be talking about venezuela a believer in revolution that sent me to conspiration from an salvador allende and in a way they've covered him and he's saying you see this is the kind of mess left wing governments get and that the american countries and central american countries in two way and that's part of the ideological war to being waves i mean part of the war that we saw waged against chile i had a direct military component of course but it was really the illogical war that was an even more important instrument that was used you know investor or and subsequently so the characteristic. of the characterizing of the venezuela process as a failed process and membrane going into into the equation the fact that the

economy has been systematically undermined by the us and western forces is part of that illogical war and we understand why they're being waged and we understand they potential consequences of that but you know we now surprise that those kind of characteristics are we not surprised that people have talked about the the undermining the peace process in colombia we're not surprised that people are calling for. more western intervention into the reach of course tomorrow is also seventeen he is. and set another nine eleven the one in washington and new york do you think they'll be much time spent in the united states reflecting on the impact of u.s. foreign policy that some argue catalyzed that nine eleven. you know it remains to be seen as as we get further ensure that way from the original incident we

can see that the state has been quite successful in using that attack to to rationalize its aggressive policies around the world we know that the so-called war on terror continues but the kinds of connections that should be made on nine eleven we don't think will be made i mean is is completely ironic or maybe consistent that we had this war on terror laws on nine eleven. two thousand and one and against al-qaeda but today in syria we see that the trumpet ministration has warmed the syrian government and matts you in vavasour of. a military attack on a territory is being basically controlled by al qaeda and there's no political reaction or political outcry over from the from the u.s. population or u.s.

political representatives so it calls into question or really reveals the the phoniness of this war on terror and the fact that it's been used as an instrument to the band's us global hegemony more than anything else those kinds of connections i'm not going to be made on nine eleven this year but many of us we'll make those connections theme in britain and the united states a repeating history again supporting islam is like they did the majority in afghanistan that would create al qaeda. those forces are have been there have been a very valuable to them without they those forces there be no justification for britain and for the us to still be physically in the middle east militarily well from the british media viewpoint the public came out to mourn a great us politician recently john mccain of course did support all those policies whether it be in afghanistan pre or post nine eleven what did you make of the

unities to senator john mccain an attempt to to engage and the most crass and strange historical revisionism that i've seen in quite some time it was a individual that is they recognize warmonger we're not seeing conflict and it's a bench and by the u.s. or western alliance or that he was opposed to it he is lionized as a warrior for peace there were also tweets from british politicians none from the british media jeremy colvin but jeremy covens pendent paris that were over there when he signed it he disagrees with what you just said quite a lot he tweeted saying mccain was a was a great man but that's the kind of liberal left opportunism that we see now only in the us really throughout the western world it is it is opportunism and his political confusion we're not going to be able to move the people into real sustain opposition to the one percent as long as we allow ourselves to to be even

if you leave it in this illogical war to prop up into legitimize individuals who are a whole so everything that people like bernie sanders says he's supposed to be you know in favor of but in another sense bernie sanders position is is that this is going to just remember he was a wonder said that the saudis should get their their hands dirty in the so-called middle east and right up that is when you have the obama. and saudi war being launched in yemen so these are this is the nature of a progressive politicians in places like united states of america but just finally have a briefing we talk about the chilean anniversary the washington new york then eleven anniversary this in the next few days as the ten year anniversary of the collapse of lehman brothers on wall street what do you think that means as to how we should reflect a decade on from the beginning of the crash that would of course create the austerity

we know the connection to should be may which should be the the the obvious. conclusion that there is a crisis a crisis of capitalism that has had a negative impact on main as a people are around the world i am that this should be another wake up call or a reminder if you will that we're not going to be able to address the material needs of the people globally as long as we continue to allow this is the greedy one percent to prop up a system that is then fundamental to climb so make it back in mexican looking seriously at at the structure of the u.s. economy. and around the world are looking at the kinds of jobs are being created a looking at the kinds of. with all the still occurring taking us

in populist. resources from the pockets of the people into the military industrial complex pockets these are the kinds of connections we should be able to make but we are at a time of raga thank you. my pleasure after the break the mosque of and the case we examine the future of war propaganda and the political abuse of the working classes with british painter and sculptor paul wager all the smoke coming up a bottle of going underground. and twenty forty you know bloody revolution to crack the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution

is always spontaneous or is it you know lawyer i mean your list put video and put him in the new bill is that i mean you explain you know to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen. of those who took part in this to do over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. i've been saying the numbers mean something of a matter to us of the with one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes happen each day. eighty five percent of global wealth you long to be ultra rich eight point six percent market saw thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty

thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need to remember is one one business shows you can't afford to miss the one and only. boombox. welcome back in the first half of the show we looked at the destructive reverberations of western intervention the thousands killed and us back general augusto pinochet and the millions killed wounded or displaced in continuing was in the middle east from syria or afghanistan to the u.s. u.k. made bombs dropped on children in yemen but also the use of propaganda in the role of the media in the cheerleading of these wars from the hunt for w m d's to the coverage of the poisoning of spies pile when scotland yard scout a terrible two cannot confirm russian government involvement but the front pages of papers can the futility of war and the abuse of power is examined by british artist

paul wager his new exhibition requiem for the emblem of power is at the dead in the gallery in central london deputy editor sebastian packer went to speak to him. with regard to current refers i think the mr erection of power is very concerning at least to me as an artist and i think the abuse of power was probably the man moved a version with regard to. the title theme of the exhibition. the abuse of power could be seen around the world in the forms of wars these two pieces here from your reflections on war series okie tommy so one spy duty to make them well initially some probably getting on for thirty years ago i was at the durham light infantry museum in durham city you have my three sons who were just small boys of the time with me and julie my wife and we were looking through the

museum and of course as human boys are interested in tongues and artifacts of war and so forth then we had to grit in the sort of course of the i came across a german second world. helmet which is in a glass display unit and it was a helmet which had a an entry point of a bullet hole at the buck the best of the helmet and to the left on the side of the what would be the left was a muscle distortion where the active exit point of the bullet had to oversee penetrated the school and come out again to the other side and it made me think looking at my three sons the father of the man would have had the same experience of love and affection for his boy the same as i had for my three sons but it also made me think regarding not just the victim of the tragedy but also the perpetrator of the crime as it were and also that the young man was in retreat so he wasn't

a threat he was overseas running away and i just felt. with respect to him and his parents and again the reminder of my three children it would be nice to make a sort of small memorial to him you know that individual aspect of conflict one case in thousands millions of young men that were killed in two world wars so that was the beginning of the reflections on the war series that got mixed reservations oversea about war in general but i think the fact that the sophisticated element of warfare is quite worrying it's like only only bus sculpture which was a sculpture after that i started on after almost a victim. grubby or eminent is a very powerful statement but it's a very personal statement similar to that of the individual consequences of

action with regard to this young man who was in retreat it means and roughly probably over him and then it is pretty frictions away tears more serious matters we men now great afflictions do which is now in the twenty first century great afflictions a waiter's more savior as much as remain water we're going to do about the implication and the consequences of what's going on in the option of not just individuals in my case which are we're talking about but with nations like america . with the current situation with iran it's very very difficult to digest the propaganda that we're all fed with regard to the just because of these actions of imaginations throughout the world so it moves away from this individual conflict which was which was initially what i was very interested in the same with tony blair and iraq everyone knows now that there wasn't any threat of. you know what

was of must destruction. but it's a little bit too late now and the consequence of iraq has escalated in syria and my view is that a look at the current issues with. mr trump in these heavy hundred aspect of political shenanigans is that is this a softening up of the public in preparation for a further i suspect a conflict in iran and it worries me because the ordinary people in iran of the people who are going to suffer from the town of civilian implemented by america and like was in turkey you know the financial situation there is quite alarming and i think we need to be privy to the reasons without folger one of the paintings. struggle is against the authorities do you think that prices like these back in the day or do you think that the media is now trying to separate more and more people

will instead and from the bible is a very profound and i mean it's very very powerful and i find it's very very true because unfortunately we find our leaders do exploit the power that they've got but tend to manipulate things and the mrs mason example example is reason that tends to say one thing and then she's no sooner said it and she realize the consequences of its decision and she manipulates it and changes it and i think this is a an aspect of politics which is very very concerning and it would certainly make reference that biblical reference very very valuable and relevant in current political issues and certainly those political issues when the us was when politics fails it's the next step is war and does not resolve anything if you think in this

in the in the short period between the first world war from the second world war when you think. the millions of men in combat that lost their lives on women the cause was anything learned about it it would appear not in the depressed area of the united kingdom the chrome which is to the side in particular how are people we've got the one of the highest if not the highest unemployment level in the country we've got into the size of i think i believe we've got the highest level of prostitution and drug abuse and it appears to me that. it's already having working class volumes and you look at the implication of those values when the when the minus strike was on with mrs thatcher and so full of. and i always think. in so much that it's ok to have political manipulation to suppress working class values and working class people but on the other hand when it comes to conflict the

nation is dependent on those working class men because they're the ones who go to rule the sleeves up and go out and do the dirty work of the mistah direction of politics and i find that a lot and certainly today you look at the aspect of modern day warfare with troops the scent dogs afghanistan etc the rules of engagement to be different from the british to the americans so i find it rather alarming that we have a conflict but politicians say well yes we've got to look at the moral issues and the moral values related to pulling the trigger in this particular situation so a young man is expected maybe nineteen or twenty to establish the engagement direction from politicians and think well should i do this by which time it could be dead it's very complex and we introduce that element of morality which to me if

we were concerned about morality we wouldn't be there in the first place we wouldn't be in these wars which really is a tragedy for the young men and it's very very sad and i think we need to one of lies the implication of this and hopefully through the works of all that after it over many years it's. with the maining and there's a purpose there's a message there's a level of communication and quite frankly i look at coke's rate and i look at what's in cork street and what's in it morton and so forth of the role. to me for example i look at that new think well is this really relevant to the twenty first century. you know we talk about the twenty first century and the levels of excellence levels of jackson browne most def.

u.s. president donald trump is on a complete reversal on syria a full one hundred eighty what accounts for this why and what's next. if it's face for the next actual threat like china becoming a superpower and will get its act together and like we did during the cold war oh after russia put up sputnik the u.s. planted on the and that's why i mention the live and look if we have an existential crisis coming down the path of guys like trump and other entrepreneurial you know leaders will mobilize the country and i want them to challenge because right now america doesn't have anybody else out there to play with you know time for.

prosecution will need to become almost. a full. court where you push. the threat of fines somebody known puts you do i mean jani i mean did a political pressure on the gold you've been to the moon conclude to see cretinous finance with bundled up business models he was my american corporations. able to use he controls the scene. it is just really really to me. an investigative documentary.

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