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now at r.t. dot com i'll have a full bulletin of world news for you right here in an hour's time next though on r.t. international it's crosstalk but if you watching in the u.k. or island renegade talks trump and currency crises with economist steve keep. a low in welcome to crossfire for all things considered i'm peter lavelle u.s. president donald trump is on a complete reversal on syria a full one eighty what accounts for this why and what's next. cross talking terms one eighty on syria i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark he's an intern. national affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bobbitt
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she's a political analyst we spoke to international and we have done these and he is a visiting scholar at the higher school of economics are generally cross-like rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated we're going to develop this entire program to what's going on in syria primarily donald trump's one eighty a few months ago he mentioned publicly getting out of syria now it looks like the president has changed his mind or is had his mind changed mark yeah i think i'll go with the last stuff to what we've seen this week with the release of the book by bob woodward with the release of this. miss editorial in the new york times the op ed in the new york times i'm sorry with this deep state or in the administration outing himself i'm sorry not deep state or he pulls it out of state or if you refer to the term steady state ok studies that are. you know saying that
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he swipes documents off of trump's desk to prevent him from signing them and that there is a ball of officials particularly on foreign policy that do whatever they can to prevent donald trump's policies from being fulfilled so i think we're looking rather at the deep state the steady state has full control of the foreign and military policy now with regards to syria as we've long discussed that about and we heard this announcement of this new policy of this indefinite for ever u.s. military presence in syria not by trump himself but by james jeffrey ok it's only what. what is the strategy. do they even know this point you know i think it's a good question to ask whether or not there's a clear strategy definitely after you know afghanistan iraq libya is worth asking whether or not there's a clear strategy behind but i think with charm it's definitely something to this
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that the u.s. isn't actually acting at a unitary actor at the moment given that you have this infighting even within this own administration but. if we assume that trump's assumptions have been quite genuine that he wants to pull america security guarantees back a little bit there has been two important exceptions which has been first iran quite hostile in iran and the second would be america's friendship with israel and of course syria is right in the middle of both of these two exceptions so i guess he was always somewhat predisposed to even things which is a you know if he takes out his apparent political envelope with all of his promises on the back that i've mentioned many times in this program he's not technically starting a new war that was his promise ok so he's flipping it here. we had iran russia and turkey meeting in. everyone puts
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a nice face on it but it was a disaster it was a car wreck well i think why the very fact that the russia and iran walked on something together the first time when i think three same curious you know if you look at the history of conflict we know you know agree on something in common you know who's the odd man out i think in this time where it's of course spread and. it's very unfortunate because basically when i talk to syria and so they all agree that the war is a war their water should be all would be quick or it should be but it looks like it's going to be reignited in a really big way. problem is that their position has exhausted its potential i mean it's clear that syrians who want want a piece of the country's exhaust and everything there's more of this clear you know and the syrians they simply have no guts no desire for forty continued war so
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they're really irritated by this continued uncertainty about evil iop ok ok that's ok that's exactly what we want to get you're absolutely right but they're not so exhausted that they're not going to and they are doing it as we speak right now yeah liberating the city what we've actually seen so far is just the claiming of the low hanging fruit the real wars are yet to come and they could potentially be much much more significant i wear the regards to the strategy that the u.s. is deploying in syria i think the moon of alabama blog we put it we were just talking about it eloquently here it is here you are on this literally on this thing it's here u.s. military illegally stays in occupied syria dot dot dot underpants dot dot dot i could be wrong to. leave syria and the syrian government falls i mean that's the even if you're actually reading the same article here glenn it was that everyone had asked all foreigners have to leave syria except for the united states so why the turks will that remains to be played
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out here and but there seems to be a move to create in effect a partition right now i mean the u.s. wants to create some kind of state with some like autonomy semi-independent it will be dependent on the western powers primarily the united states no one in the in the region wants that bar maybe israel. so. i think that it's going to have to appreciate the situation to steal other states in at the moment in terms of what their initial objectives costs of course when they went into syria first supporting this jealous. jihadists want to write whatever you want to call it a however if we want to call it but of course the source somewhat clear you get rid of assad which is an important ally of iran. they're considered annoyance to. and of course the reestablish us yet it must mean the regional of syria thought
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differently apparently. but i'm guessing now we have the opposite iran has more influence there than it had in the past the us a spin largely discredited in the region and of course russia's. security provider so you know if you do if you're from egypt or jordan if you want security in the region from now on you have to also book a flight to moscow so i think that. everything that went for has gone the other way and that's not necessarily a good thing because when you have this winner takes all situations and other side a more historically the more you look into i guess the dissenting celine's david ignatius is interview with a high government. white house official about creating quagmires in syria the human usually the term strategic patience as applied to the united states dealing with north korea but the russians have been strategically patient in syria you could tell in turn around blood amir putin is beginning to lose his patience with his partners and with the situation on the ground again the syrian side will be in
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their patience with the war and of course the russians including volume of. patients with the so-called international community i mean i watched the. session chaired by victorious in the went on syria and i was just disgusted you know. any reason why i mean example the the french said that russia's was the main responsibility of for the possible humanitarian catastrophe. prompts. cvo france was never invited there it is a former colonial power the french killed hundreds of thousands of syrians you know . plaintiffs aintree and now they say this is all the responsibility there was. a victorian law of herself who just recently said russia was never going to be america's friend you remember and now she says she's calling on russia in the end of her speech where quote in order to show walk with us walk with your no we're
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never going to be our friend but walk with us and let me decode that means listen to us and do what we say hear more that we have this are just very important very quick the united states has been warned about bad consequences in syria new riyadh in mali the former prime minister of iraq said that the civil war would spread to iraq they said no and it it did spread their african union in libya the african union warned the united states that offer to cut off the falls there is going to be and migration disaster is going to be a carrier so it really didn't have these two thousand and three there was no isis in iraq and there was no isis in syria has more of we hear humanitarian catastrophe we've heard this many many times before look what happened with aleppo when it was liberated was there a humanitarian catastrophe no it was completely forgotten ok same thing the humanitarian forces of al qaeda were completely driven from the city. i mean this coming from the united states is simply rise above all right no one cried about
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a humanitarian catastrophe when the u.s. was bombing the iraqi cities of. salt or uninvited the syrian cities of rock body man be when they were driving jihadists in this case isis out of western iraq and eastern syria in fact in enter agency u.n. team and amnesty international on the ground in rocka after the u.s. offensive says it was the most destroyed city in the syrian cause. inflict seventy to eighty percent of the buildings destroyed far more than two thousand civilian casualties and. this is you know the rhetoric that we hear from the united states basically it's saying when you are conducting counter terror against al qaeda and the remnants of our proxies do what
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we say not what we did in syria you know interesting. it's interesting how trump is being played into this here because i think there's a lot of smart military people would think that the military strategy they're in it isn't a military strategy at this point it's a political one it is is it's creating and putting down a marker here. there could be a conflict with russia in all this is this been followed out or isn't a bluff. well i think they can stumble into this again when you develop a strategy what distinguishes structure from policy is usually you have to predict what the other serous will do and then i think in this situation. too many arcturus with too many interests and probably has and while that might not have planned everything out we often assume that they know exactly what they're doing but i don't think that they do and i think this quagmire strategy well that is what this is going to release and record it with the things that's happened here is you know
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usually somebody must go then you invade the country but now they've been in the country and they have that man there deciding what should be done so this is regime change in reverse you know or the other gentlemen to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on syria and staying with. so wrong. but i. just don't. fall he's the odd guy out here and it's probably not a good position to be in preparing long no i agree and i think that he's alienated everyone now from the appealing to americans. who have core serious or less or less the iranians don't trust him fully but i think. this improvement of relations
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between russia and turkey is a smart pointer can be a bit deceptive i think that this rift between the americans and the turks definitely have given russia some flexibility but at the end of the day as we saw and now in this meeting they are their interests are quite different to russia and turkey have mutual interests ok i don't call them partners in syria. i think you know i think actually that's the irony of the whole thing like a serious where their interest would clash the most in other areas their interests are. much more aligned so i think that the split with the u.s. and also other interests in terms of a turkey considering leading leaning more to the east i think. weapon sales i think there's a lot to work in and i think that the gun perhaps was trying to use this is a real wrinkle in all of this to me is the kurds ok because the u.s. continues to support them but people on the ground do you not want in northern syria in northeast syria they don't want to be ruled by. turkey.
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you know what would you call them they're all their assets ok and then at the same time they don't want to be ruled by these arab tribes that want to be ruled by the kurds so i mean it's kind of a hopeless situation there and then the u.s. is in the middle of it all well when their u.s. moved in and when the destabilize the situation in syria go away the destabilize the situation in iraq before consequences were unpredictable it's like starting a chain reaction you know and i'm not even sure the united states is really guided by interests in this because. well look at their resolves the results are abysmal for us interests the united states failed to paul paul not even an anti western president present us it was not anti western and mildly disagreeable he was called a reformer absolutely yes and the result is that they was they basically lost a very important ally turkey which is much more important than syria in libya they
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moved in or k. they didn't like a difficult i was killed now they have a civil war in libya migration current crisis in europe isis operating in libya so if we judge the situation from the position of interests a bomb a should be declared the most disastrous president in us history simply because his actions were against against the long term us things or. is this just refusing defeat i mean this is double down and let's keep trying what we've been doing before i mean he explained the brush analogy isn't just the empire is it messy on a commune good deal is right i mean if it's interested in were the results i mean the result side of the ledger is pretty thin i mean they of course refused to see the you know the increased iranian russian influences is obvious blowback to what we all saw at the beginning of a conflict they have an inability to see that and they also have an inability to admit defeat to same way at all reminds me of the is ok we failed in iraq you know
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iraq is a law and now you rainy and misguided report accidents reported that the next to their israeli territory doesn't matter who try again in libya we failed in libya doesn't matter that ideology cannot be wrong you know people can be wrong individuals can be wrong we picked out the wrong candidate hillary clinton she was too devious if we would have a better one next time but we couldn't fail we couldn't refuse the i.v. nobody is really wrecked their ideology is correct so in the same way syria now this document united nations there. on the. parameters and principles of u.s. aid to c.v.s. the idea of the document is that there should be no u.n. eight to reconstruct syria all until there is a political transition or maybe to this little maybe to the little statelet they will get. you know mark one of the things i find fascinating going back to the internal politics of the united states is that this is throwing the dice but if it
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fails will strops fault isn't it it's his administration well i mean we could have completely ignore that it was obama who actually launched the proxy war on syria if we want but i don't really i don't really see it that way because we see broad bipartisan support you know whether it's adam schiff. and. nancy pelosi doing meet and greets with the mujahideen you know video messages and so on there is broad bipartisan support the the two party war party came here to say this is mccain consensus is fully behind you know the u.s. stepping up their aggression against syria no but instead you know six it was if he stepped down they would blame the other three status has many fathers but failure is a bastard ok and i think this is you know in a there's
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a bipartisan support at the highest levels against president they want to see him fail on everything ok even if it's in spite of me in spite of the interest of the united states and the world are going to the last word well i agree with what mark said in terms of this a bipartisan interest in this in continuing this what is essentially a failed mission but the same time i would point out of a lot of people in washington are noticing that this. moment is retracting and there is a vacuum an opening feels that if you are more aggressive in its allies. even though recognize. no one who will have a good answer what now what a transistor next to the point that out there that would like to work with russia as long as what it's told so it's not really quite sure what will come next and i think. they should transition to building a wall on the southern border as all the time the gentlemen many thanks to my guests here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember.
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that guys are financial survival guide liquid assets not those that you can convert that's quite easily. to keep in mind now as if i'm into a place and. therefore. you know world is a big part of the law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to
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be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. for the lord god who can command a fallen to. while he was sleeping he took one of the men's rooms and then closed with flash. i was born a male i started living as a female when i was nineteen years old had a sex change when i was thirty years old i've now been living as a woman for twenty eight years and i fully regret this nobody can change genders
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it's impossible. it's delusional it's a mental illness. and the lord god made a woman from the room he had taken out of the man and he brought her to the man once i finally had the surgery i went with this was the wrong thing to do it was the wrong thing to do to cut off my male anatomy. command. this is now one of my bones from the flesh of my flesh she shall be called woman because she was taken out of man that is why a man leaves his father and mother earth news from nineteen to his wife and they become one flesh the fact of the matter is the forty percent of people who are attempting suicide are people who regret ever changing genders.
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more along right there around four o'clock. but usually i wake up beforehand if you know god's truth wakes me up. i read the bible and i pray and then i try to be fuel and listen for his voice his guidance. my name is billy burley.

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