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hello and welcome to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle peering into the abyss the syrian arab army is determined to liberate good lives and to eliminate the terrorists they're essentially ending this international proxy war the u.s. and its regional allies are dead set against this why it's the trumpet ministration siding with terrorists. across talking syria i'm joined by my guest adel darwish in london he's a political commentator and author of the book the edge of war in leeds we have seen shah he is a senior lecturer in middle east politics at the university of bradford and in beirut we have niamh solemn he is a professor of international affairs at notre dame university all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate let me go to the best dressed in. and on television adel darwish in

london i love your bow ties. i don't explain something to me and july of last year we had the american delegated to oversee dealing with the situation in syria direct and boy said the greatest concentration of all of terrorists in the world isn't it good and he identified them is al qaeda and associated groups now we have remarkable turn around in the last days and weeks is that no that the syrian government is warned not to liberate its own territory and not to apparently seemingly not to lay a finger on any wanted live how do you account for this major reversal i think it's a four letter word and it's called the iran but go ahead joe. well of course iran is a measure a player in factor here. i have never read he was a subscriber it's going to spurs your theories but actually it looks to me like.

become like a fix become large and the. problem is not the only let me get in my going to be rude here i mean i'm kind of a variation of the same question that i just asked i mean did anybody think about these things the law of unintended consequences i mean where these peaceful people are supposed to go i mean number one i think it every country in the world every government the world should say that they want to wash their hands and have nothing to do with these terrorists and it might be a way to start negotiating ok but also saying with beirut i mean you know it seems to me that turkey is is really dirtying the waters here because it you know the area one was just with rouhani in total and then now he comes out with this op ed in the in the wall street journal and it's very unclear what he wants to do and i'd like to correct i mean they're not controlling northern syria they're occupying and it is an illegal occupation no one in northern syria that i am aware of asked them

to come in ok so how is the the turkey card playing in all this name in beirut where. it has been responsible for. the war seventy percent of the war on syria and the destruction of syria so. now it has opened its border with syria eight hundred sixty kilometers border with syria to terrorist groups from all kinds of companies perhaps more than any. company with terrorists came into the door. and it was not a problem of syria so mr. primarily responsible for. what is going on in syria as far as the violence that has spread all over the company there was also that attack the groups of which they collected from the muslim world and non muslim order from europe as well. ship them to syria

now they are scratching their head and they don't know exactly what the heck they are going to do like to do exactly know that they would be defeated yeah exactly they know that they would be defeated. ok. we're at we're getting close to the break and let me go to adel here adel i mean i think your point your first point is really is perfect is spot on is that the u.s. and its regional allies including syria they want to freeze the status quo when it comes to in the meantime i would point out the u.s. is attempting to establish some kind of semi-autonomous semi independent state in south in the north east which is really quite interesting here is and in the tone and tenor is that now it's all about iran it's not about it would be more and they don't want and they don't want any kind of semblance of a victory for assad because that would be a victory for russia go ahead in london. yes i mean it's a it's

a cold war. or a mini cold war be afghanistan replayed all over again and the lesson of. which you yourself. have stepped in to say you have so. think of the unintended consequences and three most important when russia intervened so years ago it had a strategy and the plan there was talk about actually dividing syria and to different gun tones bought the strategy of russia to keep the geographical in dignity of syria not pro-us they don't care about us that's not going to be replaced the people of syria come bring another regime but it's actually keeping the graphic and figure if you have to if that's actually happened. america which he did not have a strategy would see that as a victory for russia if assad remain as also a victim of iran because he's at and as well as for that as well and so on so

establishing this sort of foothold american presence maybe some kurds will be exactly saw and that goes for that and then that's what turkey doesn't like the kurds but at the same prime is another book out author school water wars which actually was covered actually on russia with a few years ago there's a conflict of actually water between syria iraq and turkey and that was actually a long term animosity between the must because. there is also a border there is also natural gas an oil ok let me get what we have one minute left i want to go back to of sheen here i mean does the u.s. have a long term strategy other than we're not going to leave that to what it seems to me. the problem with the said ministration is thirteen or there are a lot of mixed messages coming from washington about the grand con

a foreign policy. has been a bit he said it was only about five months or if you remember president trump said that once we have defeated there are leaks take he going to resign from syria but only a short while ago some high ranking american military officials this stated that actually. now have changed and he's no longer about getting nation or crisis we go into a state in syria couldn't as long as the bases the. iranian and hezbollah forces are still active in c. we're going to remain on a military presence and more importantly they have a stated that as long as there is no friendly regime which is acceptable to the syrian people and this little international community then east chase and justification that american military that's over here are going to go to work we're

going to go to a break here but ok all those late goals and demands we'll be waiting until hell freezes over for that to happen we're going to go to a break and out about your break we'll continue our discussion on syria state with art. i've been saying the numbers mean from matter you have over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes have been. eighty five percent of global wealth you want to be called her rich eight point six percent market for thirty percent of the rise while. your home with four hundred to five hundred trees per second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building

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welcome back to crossfire who are all things were considered peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the situation in syria. let me go back to our guest in beirut ok we heard about the demands that the u.s. is putting forward for syria after donald trump if you look through his the history of his tweeds the syrian war was a big mistake until he became president and we had to leave illegal airstrikes against syria because of alleged chemical weapons would probably waiting for another one of those but what about what syria one syria has it has russia and it has iran and the longer or the more elaborate the u.s. administration's strategy becomes the more and more it seems to me that the u.s. wants to stay in syria to determine any kind of peace settlement i don't see how it could happen if the u.s. remains there and u.s.

policy of the iran and i think it's pretty universally recognized that everyone is in in in ministration is a hoc when it comes to iran go ahead in beirut. where i believe that the united states policy is very much directed by what is called of this month is the united states as much as or anybody more than the president as such whoever the president is misled about obama when he became president or early on in his presidency and he made his own being a speech talking about cooperation with it up and muslim democracy i thought that i said that i and primarily emphasizing this point cooperation is about what did the administration of mr obama bring about. brought about the so-called arab spring actually support him at all. then muslim country it's good thing bombs that been muslim countries keep going going keep. this was succeeded by mr

trump mr trump in the year before he became president he was talking about he wants to stroll the troops from syria and from iraq cetera but once he became president histone change it what what does this tell us is that that establishment the deep establishment in the united states has very much a strong. decision making. control over the policy of the united states so for the past yet and they have mr trump instead of. diminishing u.s. troops and was growing u.s. troops from both syria and iraq he has been increasing the number of particularly in syria the number of u.s. troops now in syria are about three thousand troops and that is better yet expressed by the trump administration mr bolton and other than mr bolton that they want to attack syria based on the claim is that the whole new claim is of chemical

weapon this is a farce. and mr trump clearly is into it so despite all of the things he said that he doesn't want war it seems that the recent the policy of the united states is coming again to emphasize that the u.s. will stay in northern syria and this was said yesterday by the prompt administration that they were they are not going to withdraw from northern syria in fact the u.s. troops. which are located in about certain military camps and bases in northeastern syria east of the euphrates the area where is of the euphrates in syria is approximately. thirty to forty thousand square kilometer the end is smarter than three times bigger than my country levanon so and more than that this area is of those factors. to produce about three some of them three

hundred thousand better of oil every day. it's an asset grab and well here i mean what i mean americans want everyone growing they want to be a spoiler they go on to syria to have the resources to rebuild that's how i see it once this conflict comes in exactly adel. i guess people don't remember the cold war very well you know i keep hearing that newsrooms all over the world in the western world are run by twenty somethings you know and they like to play with social media all day long i remember the cold war pretty well and it was something we all worried about now you know seeing the u.s. in a very cavalier way saying not only are we going to i can't use that kind of simple language of donald trump you know we're going to work we're going to make it hurt you're going to syria hurt and everyone else on the russians only in the iranians as well or anyone else here that helps them ok very cavalier language he didn't use

that during the cold war you know why and i almost never i almost never like to quote barack obama but you know elections have results in this is what's happening ok we have results here the american people voted against these foreign wars and now this is a promise broken go ahead. while the midterm election. for the congress is going ahead we have seen out of the competition between the two but if you if we have because i was a reporter. during the cold war sixty's seventy's eighty's. in the cold war. moscow. london and washington. and. those. that were talking to each other. now what i'm one of the about the absence of dialogue with us number one then we have

a member of nato which is supporting one saw it which is the terrorists and and led. most sort of responsible way is actually the use of the military threat we have seen bolt on talking in that off about something about us and that we'd some government not to attack. but the way i think it's just not getting government where we're just aren't worth mine said ok we're storm out of. ending the. terrorist rebel rule there i agree history doesn't repeat itself but it's a strong echo when you deal with these types of terrorist groups that's all the time we have many thanks to my guess in london leeds and in beirut and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember crosstalk.

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president putin reveals that russia has identified the suspects that britain says carried out the script poisoning. special criminal and us those are the civilians yes they are definitely civilians. russia's u.n. envoy clashes with his u.s. counterpart over syria with russia again insisting that on separating the terrorists from rebel forces. coexistence with terrorists is impossible those are all branches of al-qaeda which we've been fighting since the terrorist attacks in two thousand and one let's not waste time with to disinform ation distractions and outright lie.