this hour the two men named by the you case by the u.k. rather a suspect in the script poisoning deny any involvement in the incident if they have been exclusively talking to. really play the. car you. we are those who are shown to you in the pictures. and i would say. your real name. yes your real names.

also there are signs of executive order to counter foreign interference in america's elections. never been any in the past. russia's largest military drills in decades. in the country's far east. this is a. dramatic sight thousands of tanks armored personnel carriers. fight every good evening just turned six pm in moscow kevin knowing breaking news feeds in this hour the big story from last day the two suspects the u.k. named in the poisoning of the russian double agent sergei script and his daughter back in march and souls have given an exclusive interview to our editor in chief. it was a new to me and i've been to live one you called me on my cell phone and tell me

that your response to sheriff and alexander petrov. we really were quite the picture is shown to us by the u.k. because i knew that if. the you know the someone who are you. we are those who are shown to you in the pictures. and i would throw the us are those your real names national yes the your real names would have to just even now when you're talking about it to tell the truth you look very nervous. i could move on but what would you look like or when your life was turned upside down in a moment in just one day and changed our lives well done hawkins in the studio with me now done you've looked through this many times you listen to the russian new original interview in the transcript as well initial thoughts. well very mixed i have to say i mean a reasonable share of alexander petroff their faces

a familiar to anyone who's in touch with any news probably those who don't watch the news well it's been in the headlines a lot of digging a lot of speculation by journalists recently as to who these men are what their real identities their field of work is and we look at the people in c.c.t.v. they admit they fact all the people in the c.c.t.v. . they say or mockery to see what is the approached directly for him to voluntarily and the editor in chief ask themselves a key questions that i'm sure a lot of people would like to know the answers to. exactly so on this is the t.v. footage from london you welcome those now famous callousness nickerson's holds very . souls are this people you yes there's still time what are you doing there. and our friends have been suggesting for a long time that we visit this wonderful town salisbury and wonderful town yes a tourist town.

there is the famous solsbury cathedral famous not only in europe but in the whole world. it's famous for its one hundred twenty three metre spire. on. it is famous for its clock one of the first ever created in the world that still working. with. me to come out of this horrible. this looks so cute as hell is very take a look at the clock in the summer when the child no we plan to visit london at first and have fun there are lots of little go at it at the players it wasn't a business trip this time. and we planned to go to london and then to salisbury themselves b.b.c.'s an office of the normal and we did you know but when we were almost there we thought the plane wouldn't land on the first drive as there was a heavy snow storms but that's because of all the havoc they had with transport in

the u.k. on march second and third because of heavy snow fall nearly all the cities were paralyzed because we were unable to go anywhere or is through to rush and we go to britain when the snow falls who thing is growing dog in britain i think it was there that time getting a flight back it was delayed yet things do go into well it's not not geared up for it because you can start with this. britain says the para teligent office is there what we have to say about that was addressed it would have been a bombshell had they admitted of course no surprise is they say they're not affiliated with any russian special forces intelligence agencies it's. they say they work in sports business namely in sports supplement protein amino acid. stuff like that and they didn't want to talk so much about their exact line of work in terms of their business they said they have a client base in russia and europe they didn't want to reveal them compromise them for their work to be damaged or indeed put their family through media scrutiny they say they say they interviewed they came to the media for protection as they didn't

know who to turn to anymore. what do you want for the g.r.u. and you meet now and you and i don't either but no one accuses me of working for the t.r.u. but you are being cute of. your colleagues accuse us of that us and by your colleagues seem in journalists you're being accused by you keep three yes that's the scariest thing where do you work your it out you need to make a living person if we tell you about our business people we work with will be affected tell anything so that we believe you everyone has questions what do you do with the kind of long story short if you were in the fitness industry know there's a lot more to this interview is a full twenty four minute story down to what is in the full twenty five minutes worth of it is no which is on our site the full transcript of it. they say that they feel put upon here that they feel they can go out of their own front door to cut to a nutshell is that true you're not. recognized in the streets their faces have been

all over the media on the big screen they call even to the petrol station the supermarket certainly saying it has affected them they say they hope to be resolved as soon as possible the real perpetrators are followed and when they offer . expect an apology. we see me why did you decide to go to the media your photos were published some time ago together with your name ups which you can silence but then today called me because you want to speak to the media what's changed it. was issued to ask for protection they said no more than what you say we kept silent after our lives turned into a nightmare we didn't know what to do where to go when the police the investigative committee by the u.k. embassy is not a source of anybody than you or the f.s.b. we don't know why would you go to the u.k. and the sea for us that we really didn't know what to do where to go hello.

you know when your life is turned upside down you don't really understand what to do and where to go and many say but why don't they go to the u.k. embassy and explain everything. i think a lot of viewers are going to raise more questions that also is really after this perhaps some will view this as a sort of bed in the jigsaw puzzle that has become this script saga the men refused to show their passports on camera margarita simonyan low says she will show the paul sports person verify that they are who they say they are according to their documents she gave a short interview offer as well commenting briefly on our impressions of her interaction with the tube. i knew they were nervous and sweating a lot i had to turn up the air conditioning a lot higher than usual and still they were sweating and wiping their foreheads which obviously happens when people are nervous there could be a lot of reasons for it but i understand this was the first interview in their

lives but they could have been nervous for other reasons as well that's also possible they refused to show their i.d.'s on camera because they didn't want to be pursued and identified further but they showed them to me that i did not run the polygraph on them as a journalist i believe what they see i saw those were the people i saw their i.d.'s and that they feed the photos and videos what was going through their minds and whether they were speaking the truth it's hard to see it's up to those who watched the interview to decide. to get well again as moderator so whatever mentions it's up to the viewer to decide that the questions were asked who they are what they do why they're in the u.k. essentially given a right of reply to give their version of events which they did. it remains to be seen of course how what happens next the u.k. foreign office according to latest information has this missed their stories as lawyers claiming they are your you officers they still maintain that the full interview in english is going to be our believe very shortly people will get

a chance to see that make their own conclusions we should most of the last hours worked on again in about three hours' time we'll keep our viewers post about that thank you for now all right then well let's see what the view is from the u.k. artist who's been through those two suspects says predictably generated wide reaction from officials both in russia and the u.k. that some go in london polyploidy because they were the day polly hi there what kind of response is there being so far. well not great we've got an official response from the u.k. foreign office and it's fair to say that british authorities aren't buying it the reviews aren't great take a listen. the government is clear these men are officers of the russian military intelligence service the group who use the devastatingly toxic illegal chemical weapon on the streets of our country we have repeatedly asked russia to account for what happened in salzburg in march today just as we have seen

throughout they have responded with obfuscation and lies and a similarly skeptical response from the member of parliament for souls john glenn he's tweeted saying that he's delighted that alexander petrol of and share of we're able to see the world class attractions that sells what he has to offer but he says it's very strange to come all this way for just two days while carrying novacek in their luggage he also said that souls we welcome terrorists from around the world and is very much open for business but the patrol of the share of statements he says are not credible and don't match the widely accepted intelligence that we have on these individuals and the diplomatic row is getting more heated because the russian foreign ministry spokesperson. has already responded to the ukase response to the interview with the trough and bashir of and she has some more questions for the british authorities take a listen. to

a solution to the push of the new i believe absolutely unacceptable to accuse people of telling lies forty minutes. of price so i repeat my question directly to the british what is the legal basis and. russian citizens telling you that i will forty minutes after new year and use that what was the reason for that what was so specifically non-credible what they should have one official authority to use someone to tell us in the pretty must be responded so nationals. so it's been dismissed air in london there are counter questions in moscow there's no sign of this diplomatic route going away any time seeing. there from your side over there over in london appreciate it. next to some other headlines today this is a big one donald trump signed off on moves to tackle foreign interference in u.s. elections which he describes as

a national emergency the president's issued an executive order which refers to any attempts by individuals or countries to influence or alter vote results the reason he's so concerned of course but all this is because a lot royds or crucial set of elections coming up in november in the event that meddling is provan sanctions will be imposed targeting sectors of strategic significance like defense or finance it goes down of takes a closer look. trump has declared war on election meddling rules of engagement weapons free. to the assessment shall identify it to the maximum extent ascertainable the nature of any foreign interference and any methods employed to execute it the persons involved and the foreign government or governments that authorized directed sponsored or supported it don't be thrown off by the formal word government the us president understands that in a very abstract sense everyone and anything can be

a government of sorts an actual authority a political party and even an individual all are designated targets. you when it comes to new ones on a scale between a sniper rifle and carpet bombing trump is closer to a firm a nuclear blast his understanding of interference is so broad it seems the president thinks the us election can be swayed by accident disclosing information threatening to disclose information undermining public confidence in a candidate by these rules everyone retreating we kill leaks outside of america would be interfering in the election. so is the twenty sixteen election medaling case now closed after all the u.s. intelligence all agree long ago that russia meddled in that vote but of course trump wrong be shooting himself in the foot the term united states election means

any election for federal office held on or after the date of this order that's right the executive order covers the upcoming midterms and on wards in case of any meddling the investigation will have to review all evidence within forty five days but chances are you won't see any of that. to the framework which may be classified in whole or in part shall focus on ensuring the. agencies for fill their responsibilities pursuant to this order in a manner that maintains methodological consistency the shroud of secrecy around the forensics might as well conceal the lack of it the executive order allows an appeal in the century a gut feeling assigning blame although there has been no evidence of a foreign power altering the outcome or vote tabulation in any united states election foreign powers have historically sought to exploit america's free and open political system trump didn't sign an executive order he created

a magic bullet for himself marketed to the public as something that will protect them and which allows the white house to target whoever it wants. the media on this line or believes the executive orders vague though unlike previous documents of this kind. but a couple of things i want to bring up using the canons of of american law away which i know a little bit about and whenever we look at any statute any statute law or regulation executive order p.t.d. you name it anything that is written one of the tenets that we always look to is are the behaviors are the prohibited actions are those intended. activities spelled out accurately enough and with specificity enough so that you were able to read that particular executive order read the statute and comport

accordingly meaning may i read this and say oh i know what to do now the next thing is sometimes we have terms void for vagueness vagueness ambiguity what is enter a fair and and i don't want to do this the air quotes but imagine i'm doing it what is interference what is propaganda what is one team to if fact have a good effect and i can come up with a lot of terms interpretations new ones if i tweak and leave the veritie veracity what does this mean i don't even understand how you would even a poor why this because normally when you look at the statute says interference shall mean this it means it does not mean this the dissemination of an idea discussion debate what is that what when any country has any discussion i

think there is an effect so it's very concerned if it concerns me for vagueness in ambiguity but what it is is the u.s. presidency responding to the domestic media and any doubts that people might hear of foreign interference in the election the substance of it really is not material because. yes there are not going to be any measure of all indications of foreign interference in the election certainly not with vote rigging over tampering in any event so basically this is a public relations exercise from the white house is not international in the way the way you find you news or access your favorite content or length will be about a change in europe tell you all about that more coming up.

when the u.n. was founded it was meant to serve as a forum for dialogue and conciliation the chillen into a u.n. security council meeting and instead of robust debate. accusations and allegations diplomats just playing to the cameras as the u.n. really become a hostile environment. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. let it be an arms race. here in dramatic. and. i don't see a. very critical time to sit down and talk.

russia's. military exercises are well underway in the countries far east these are the largest drills in decades partly with hundreds of thousands of troops and combat vehicles being put through rigorous testing but the maneuvers are also proving irritation for the west the pentagon saying it's watching very closely president putin met with that address troops at those drills earlier on thursday he also watched a joint russian chinese parade of army hardware in aviation we're covering it for us. feel we are one of the anticipated exercises of the stock two thousand and eighteen war games.

these scenarios russian paratroopers as well as their chinese counterparts assaulting a hot enemy position through being wounded on the spire dropping in the now being supported by hillary as well as air strikes and helicopters doing the rounds to. come. up with formations during the battle with. the support. and reserve speed pushkin the battle. what's remarkable here is the level of coordination required to keep everything running smoothly with so many military branches and he called his jets as well as troops from multiple countries china. russia and in such

a confined and small area who is the exercises simulated but the difficulties faced here will translate it's a real combat experience. well this is an improved seeing if dramatic sight thousands of tags personnel carriers helicopters and aircraft a raid on a vast field chinese and russian joint military parades to end the day's exercises. troubles probing for europe's internet uses it might soon be hard to share viral content online such as maybe remakes isn't even news articles so if the european parliament voted to back new copyright rules.

don't let them take away what we love and our creativity this people know nothing about what they're doing the internet can move more people than disobedience can. article thirteen will be put into practice use an automated content filtering system good or bad to use in copyright protected material for commentary parody this is madness. this legislation is now a better balance answering many of the concerns of journalists publishers and

musicians whose work has been shared not stifling innovation or fundamentally changed. me. was. sweet me. it's the price of progress i think they call it twenty four minutes past six under the proposed new rules tech giants will have to pay for hosting and sharing content and what's being called the hyperlink tax while online platform required to filter unlicensed copyright material campaigners fear legal content may be blocked in the process hindering free speech final vote on it was expected next year but concerns the rules may be adopted out widespread. the internet will change to

a place where we consumers can enjoy sharing creations in a.t.s. to an environment that is restricted and controlled there's a lot of content which is designed to go viral and to be taken through means and through parody across the internet and also there are a great deal of initiative on the part of the regulators to try and create create a sort of protection for means for the likes of parody and for justifiable use of content the difficulty is there is so much content out there that it's going to be impossible for it to be filtered manually and it's going to have to be done like hey i buy something i want to nation you should never underestimate the creativity and the innovation out there across the internet and across all of the different users who are seeking to post content and to express themselves in great demand maybe they need to be less reliant on copyrighted content in doing so but hopefully they will find other ways of doing this who knows this may spawn

a whole new set of platforms a whole new type of concept. well for thoughts about the future back to the here and now story happening right now our top story the two men named by the u.k.'s suspects in the script poisoning refute the allegations against them we've got their side of the story exclusively we've shown you parts of the interview already you can watch it here in full at seventeen thirty g.m.t. or two hours from now one had to r.t. dot com for the transcript for now from me kevin owen thanks for watching. when lawmakers manufacture consent to instant public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. in the final merry go round be the one percent.

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