in the headlines. the two men named by the u.k. as suspects in the scruple poisoning deny any involvement in the incident and they have been speaking exclusively to this channel. you really look like the pictures shown to us by the u.k. . we're those who were shown to you in the pictures. and i would say the question is are those your real names. are real names or is a lot more coming up this to donald trump signs an executive order to counter

foreign interference in america's elections while insisting there's never been any in the past. and russia is largest military drills in. the country's far east. this is a. dramatic sight thousands of tanks armored personnel carrier helicopters aircraft are read on the field. international live with me kevin i just turned seven pm it's the breaking news as you can see the red ticker at the bottom of the screen the one up for you the two suspects the u.k. named in the poisoning of the russian double agent second script on his daughter back in march and sold spring and given an exclusive interview to our t's editor in chief. we're. those are new to me and i've been to live one you called me on my

cell phone and told me that you are a slum bullshit of the looks on the patrols and it. was. you really look like the pictures shown to us by the u.k. and if you. like you. who are you we are those who were shown to you in the pictures with a slump a sheet of. and i would send her pet through the russians are those your real names national yes they are real names would that even now when you were talking about it to tell you the truth you look very nervous on. a movie what would you look like or when your life is turned upside down in a moment in just one day and changed our lives you know kind of care of the blue but they stand in that they don't hold has been across it all day first with a russian version we quickly go to transcribe to get a handle on it on the english side here and you watch through it what do you k.b.

impressions from the old twenty five minutes of this thing or what mixed i think it has to be said i mean this story has been in the headlines since march but it's only about a week ten days ago that these two phases these things appeared in media in public discourse released by hugo thought to these men certainly resemble those in c.c.t.v. images released by u.k. police they have confirmed they. of alexander petroff that they were in the u.k. on those days they were on those c.c.t.v. images a lot of digging a lot of journalists trying to do some some news how it worked on a truck going down in the end they came forward voluntarily they made a phone call to margaret to see when our editor in chief and voluntarily decided to answer some of the key questions i'm sure many people would have had about what exactly happened on those days. play it isn't this is a t.v. footage from london you walk in those now famous coats and sneakers and soles brief . falls are these people you yes. what were you doing

there and our friends have been suggesting for a long time that we visit this wonderful town souls very wonderful town yes a tourist town. there is the famous solsbury cathedral famous not only in europe but in the whole world. it's famous for its one hundred twenty three metre spire. it is famous for its clock one of the first ever created in the world that's still working. some. time in total to me to consider a bit of a built. this is so you came to souls agree to take a look at the clock and then you know someone the cello know we plan to visit london at first and have fun there was a little bit at the end to this play as if it wasn't a business trip this time. and we planned to go to london and then to salisbury

themselves beneath us in the face of those normal and we did you know but when we were almost there we thought the plane wouldn't land on the first drive as there was a heavy snow storms but that's because of all the havoc they had with transport in the u.k. on march second and third because of heavy snowfall but nearly all the cities were paralyzed because we were unable to go anywhere. now so that's just a small x. said this whole thing goes on with my greeter asking them some pretty basic questions but trying to get in there to get some info from them the main thing of course britain says alleges is that the russian intelligence officers that was tackled two year yes i mean these are just very short experts excerpts from a twenty five minute long interview the full version will be available of course no surprises they denied any links to the g.r.u. the russian military intelligence service they didn't reveal too much about their business their work they said they work in the sports industry in sports nutrition fitzsimmons protein amino acids interview they said they decided to come to the

media for protection they didn't know where to turn they were confused by the media attention the speculation saying their lives that effectively been turned upside down by all of us. would do you work for the g.r.u. and you me know and you and i don't either but no one accuses me of working for the jerry but you are being accused of that your colleagues accuse us of that by your colleagues you mean journalist you are being accused by you get for it it yes that's the scariest thing where do you work you are adults you need to make a living if we tell you about our business people we work with will be affected tell me anything so that we believe you everyone has questions what do you do to cut a long story short we're in the fitness industry. all right now they also go on to say don't know that their lives been badly affected by this they say they came to our. broadcast here and often online that they came to our team for some sort of safety although because we're journalists not lawyers what's that about you know

that's right and the but that's one of the quotes that moderators job was to get some answers to some questions not to defend them or protect them to get those answers and for the viewer to decide whether they believe this version or not they say they caught leave the house they can't go to the shop can't go to the petrol station they fear for their families being somehow involved in. ok that in all of this. that's why they chose to come forward voluntarily to some of these questions although there may be more questions than answers of course after all of this let's take a listen. snead why did you decide to go to the media your photos were published some time ago together with your names but you kept silent then today you called me because you want to speak to the media what's changed i was sure to ask for protection is to them or those of you who say we kept silent after our lives turned into a nightmare we didn't know what to do where to go when the police the investigative committee the u.k. embassy you know sort of anybody. or the f.s.b.

we don't know why would you go to the u.k. embassy. we really didn't know what to do where to go hello. you know when your life is turned upside down you don't really understand what to do and where to go and many say why don't they go to the u.k. embassy and explain everything. you think a lot of viewers are going to see this interview will have quite mixed feelings the men are clearly slightly uncomfortable some will have more questions to ask some will view this as another piece of the jigsaw puzzle that is the case of course that has been a bit of a game of chess really between the u.k. and russia. the men refused to show their passports that is dog identity documents on camera they said that what journalistic aerial digging into their past the lives their families that had showed them to go to see one and she confirm that they do match with their identity and she made a few comments after the interview just giving some of her own prussians about

their interaction. i mean you know they were nervous and sweating a lot and had to turn up the air conditioning a lot higher than usual and still there were sweating and wiping their foreheads which obviously happens when people are nervous there could be a lot of reasons for it but i understand this was the first interview in their lives but they could have been nervous for other reasons as well that's also possible they refused to show their i.d.'s on camera because they didn't want to be pursued and identified further but they showed them to me that i did not run the polygraph on them as a journalist i believe what they see i saw those were the people i saw their i.d.'s and that they feed the photos and videos what was going through their minds and whether they were speaking the truth it's hard to see it's up to those who watched the interview to decide. really this is but a chance for those two suspects to give some sort of have some sort of right of reply give the. story and explain their presence and count for their actions during

those days and really give their version of events here whether the public will believe that as margarita said she didn't want to give her impression those questions. of course remains to be seen and we're waiting now for responses from. officials see where this goes next you know the transcript of it is that. dot com was in a couple of hours we're going to be showing a good twenty five or twenty twenty five minutes this again it's easier of you will see the whole thing makes more sense or for that for now let's get some response or not it is loose of interview with the two suspects is predictably generated a wide reaction from officials both in russia in the u.k. and it's the u.k. we're going to go now of course london correspondent polly. polly what kind of response has there been so far. where you just saw margarita simonyan there saying well make of this what you will and it's fair to say that the british government

has given that interview a massive thumbs down to resume a spokesperson has rubbish the accounts provided by alexander petrov and a share of downing street used pretty strong language to do it take a lesson. the lines and blades in for brooke asians in this interview given to a russian state sponsored t.v. station are an insult to the public's intelligence. well this same government statement goes on to say that an illegal chemical weapon was used on the streets of this country that four people left seriously ill in hospital and an innocent woman has died and russia has responded with contempt and that's the second official statement to come from british authorities today because we had one earlier immediately after that interview was first broadcast and it was a similarly scathing tone take a listen to the previous statement that we got from the british government. the

government is clear these men are officers of the russian military intelligence service the g.r.u. who use a devastatingly took sick illegal chemical weapon on the streets of our country we have repeatedly asked russia to account for what happened in salisbury in march today just as we have seen throughout they have responded with obfuscation and lies . so as you see there i think to say that the british government isn't buying it is to say nothing at all really they're not very keen on the story provided by petrol of the share of a tall other politicians as well we've had the member of parliament for solsbury john glenn he's been tweeting saying that he's delighted that patrol phon by share of we're able to see the world class attractions that souls very has to offer but it's very strange to come all this way for just two days and carrying novacek in their luggage as well he says he said that he also said that sells we welcome

terrorists from around the world and is very much open for business but the petrol for the share of statements he says are credible and don't match the widely accepted intelligence that the u.k. has only as individuals so you can see this diplomatic spat is getting worse and the next stage that we've got to now is that we've had a response from russia's foreign ministry spokesperson maria is a horrible she's responded to the u.k.'s response to this interview and she says she's got some questions for the british authorities take a listen at this issue and then you've got i believe it's absolutely unacceptable to accuse people of telling lies forty minutes after they have spoken so i repeat my question directly to the british side what is the legal basis and framework for accused russian citizens of telling lies forty minutes after an interview what was the reason for that what was so specifically non-credible in what they said when

official authorities accuse someone of telling lies he must be responsible for those allegations. so you've got london dismissing the interview moscow asking questions about why they're dismissing the interview london saying it's still waiting for moscow to answer its initial questions there's no sign of this diplomatic route deescalating any time soon we're getting statements from both sides but there doesn't seem any. there does not seem to be any dialogue taking place or thanks for the update and just to remind our viewers that as well i hope if you want to see this twenty twenty five minutes worth of it will be on air again in about an hour and fifteen minutes probably from have things. from signed off or moves to tackle foreign interference in u.s. elections which he describes as a national emergency no the president says she did executive order which refers to any attempt by individuals or countries to influence or alter vote results the

reason he's so concerned about all this is because a lot rides on the crucial midterm elections of course coming up in november in the event that meddling is provan sanctions would be imposed targeting sectors of strategic significance like financial defense it goes down of takes a closer look. has declared war on election meddling rules of engagement weapons free. to the assessment show identified to the maximum extent ascertainable the nature of any foreign interference in any methods employed to executed the persons involved and the foreign government or governments that authorized directed sponsored or supported it don't be thrown off by the formal word government the us president understands that in a very abstract sense everyone and anything can be a government of sorts an actual authority a political party and even an individual all are designated targets.

when it comes to new ones on a scale between a sniper rifle and carpet bombing trump is closer to a firm a nuclear blast his understanding of interference is so broad it seems the president thinks the us election can be swayed by accident disclosing information threatening to disclose information undermining public confidence in a candidate by these rules everyone retreating we can leagues outside of america would be interfering in the election. do so is the twenty sixteen election medaling case now closed after all the u.s. intelligence all agree long ago that russia meddled in that vote but of course trump wrong be shooting himself in the foot the term united states election means any election for federal office held on or after the date of this order that's right the executive order covers the upcoming midterms and on wards in case of any

meddling the investigation will have to review all evidence within forty five days but chances are you won't see any of that. to. the framework which may be classified in whole or in part should focus on ensuring that. agencies for fill their responsibilities pursuant to this order in a manner that maintains methodological consistency the shroud of secrecy around the forensics might as well conceal the lack of it the executive order allows an appeal in the century a gut feeling assigning blame although there has been no evidence of a foreign power altering the outcome or vote tabulation in any united states election foreign powers have historically sought to exploit america's free and open political system trump didn't sign an executive order he created a magic bullet for himself marketed to the public as something that will protect them and which allows the white house to target whoever it wants legal or

media around this line or believes the executive orders a bit vague unlike previous documents of that kind. but a couple of things i want to bring up using the canons of of all american law away which i know a little bit about and whenever we look at any statute any statute law or regulation executive order p.t.d. you name it anything that is written one of the tenets that we always look to is are the behaviors are the prohibited actions are those intended. activities spelled out accurately enough and with specificity enough so that you were able to read that particular executive order read the statute and comport accordingly meaning may i read this and say oh i know what to do now the next thing is sometimes we have terms void for vagueness vagueness ambiguity what is

enter a fair and and i don't want to do this the air quotes but imagine i'm doing it what is interference what is propaganda what is one team to if fact have a good effect and i can come up with a lot of terms interpretations new ones if i tweak and leave the veritie veracity what does this mean i don't even understand how you would even apply this because normally when you look at the statute says interference shall mean this it means it does not mean this the dissemination of an idea discussion debate what is that what when any country has any discussion i think there is an effect so it's very concerned if it concerns me for vagueness and ambiguity but what it is is the u.s. presidency responding to the domestic media and any doubts that people might hear

of foreign interference in the election. the substance of it really is not material because. yes there are not going to be any measure of all indications of foreign interference in the election certainly not with vote rigging over tampering in any event so basically this is a public relations exercise from the white house. coming up the way you find you news or access your favorite content online could be about to change in europe tell you all about that and more after the break. the senate was taken up with obama's. course it was like oh yeah you know medicare for all be great but we're just.

going to progress to something. you're not progressing. to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president and. want to listen. to going to be this is what. three of the more people. interested in the water. rushes full stop twenty eighteen military exercises well underway in the country's

far east they're the largest drills in decades with hundreds of thousands of troops and vehicles being put through rigorous testing but the maneuvers approving irritating for the west the pentagon saying it's watching very closely me time to dim oppose had met with an address troops at the drills alias's day he also watched a joint russian chinese parade of army hardware navy ation covering this in the day to go to steve. you know we've got one of the most anticipated exercises of the votes talks two thousand and eighteen war games. scenario russian paratroopers as well as their chinese counterparts assaulting a hot enemy position through being wounded and illegal to spare a drop in the now being supported by artillery as well as sash strikes and helicopters doing the rounds.

come. up with formations during the battle with. the support. and reserve speed pushkin the battle. what's remarkable here is the level of coordination required to keep everything running smoothly with so many military branches and he called his jets as well as troops from multiple countries china goalie of from russia and in such a confined in small area. exercises simulated but the difficulties faced heel will translate it's a real combat experience. well

this is an improved thing if dramatic sight thousands of tags personnel carriers helicopters and aircraft arrayed on a vast field chinese and russian joint military parades to end the day's exercises. the trouble rowing in europe for internet uses it might soon be hard to shift viral content online such as maims re mixes neva news articles itself the european parliament's no vote about you copyright rules.

don't let them take away what we love and our creativity this people know nothing about what they're doing the internet can move more people than it is can. article thirteen will be put into practice is an automated content filtering system goodbye to using copyright protected material for commentary. this is madness. is now a better balance answering many of the concerns of journalists publishers and musicians whose work. without stifling innovation or fundamentally change.

means. a lot of the proposed new rules tech giants have to pay for hosting and sharing content and what's being called the hyperlink tax well i want. to filter license copyright material there's no fear legal content may be blocked in the process of free speech a final vote expected next year but concerns the rules may be adopted a widespread. the internet would change to a place where consumers can enjoy sharing creations in one thousand two an environment that is restricted and controlled there's a lot of content which is designed to go viral and to be taken through means and through parody across the internet and also there are great deals and this you tube on the part of the regulators to try and create create a sort of protection for means for the likes of parody and for justifiable use of

content the difficulty is there is so much content out there that it's going to be impossible for it to be filtered manually and it's going to have to be done by by some political two nation you should never underestimate the creativity and the innovation out there or cross the internet and across all of the different users who are seeking to post content and to express themselves in great demand maybe they need to be less reliant on copyrighted content in doing so hopefully that will find other ways of doing this who knows this may spawn a whole new set of platforms a whole new type of concept. before i go just part of the top story briefly if he's joined us the two men named by the u.k. as suspects in the script will poison refute the allegations against them they have spoken exclusively to us we've got their side of the story as they see it you can watch the full interview at seventeen thirty g.m.t. as one hour from now wired to r.t.

dot com for transcripts there right now that's all for me kevin owen thanks for watching the unit will be here in thirty minutes time just about. this manufacture can be sentenced to public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. with the fines merry go round be the one percent. we can all middle of the room sick. the real news is.

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