the two men named by the u.k. as suspects in the script poisoning case deny any involvement in the incident but they have been speaking exclusively to art. you really look like the pictures shown to us by the u.k. . we're those who were shown to you in the pictures. and i would say underpants on those you real names. are real news u.k. officials have responded to the interview saying that what the manhunt to say is false and an insult to the public's intelligence. also ahead on the program

donald trump signs on executive order to counter a foreign influence in america's election all insisting his own victory in twenty sixteen was not affected. your tuning in from right around the globe this hour welcome to moscow and to our to international my names you know neal good to have your company our top story the two suspects named by the u.k. in the poisoning of russian double agents surrogate script his daughter back in march have given an exclusive interview to our tease editor in chief here's part of the suspects interview with margarita simonyan analysis on the program earlier. we

are the new to me and i've been to live one you called me on my cell phone and told me that you are a slumber shit of the looks on the patrol and. we you really look like the pictures shown to us by the u.k. and that is. that you know that's not why you we are those who are shown to you in the pictures with the slum bashir of. and i would say under petro of the russians there are those your real names national yes they are real names would have just got there but even now when you're talking about it to tell you the truth you look very nervous on. a movie what would you look like when your life is turned upside down in a moment in just one day and changed our lives this story has been in the headlines since march but it's only about a week ten days ago that these two faces these themes appeared in media in public discourse released by yuko thora to these men certainly resemble those in c.c.t.v.

images released by u.k. police they have confirmed they. will file alexander petroff that they were in the u.k. on those days they were on those c.c.t.v. images a lot of digging a lot of journalists trying to do some some news how it worked out to track them down in the end they came forward voluntarily they made a phone call to margarita simonyan our editor in chief and voluntarily decided to answer some of the key questions i'm sure many people would have had about what exactly happened on those days and they go on this is a t.v. footage from london you walk in those now famous coats and sneakers and soles bree . are these people you yes. what were you doing there. our friends have been suggesting for a long time that we visit this wonderful town souls' brewery a wonderful town yes a tourist town.

there is the famous solsbury cathedral famous not only in europe but in the whole world. it's famous for its one hundred twenty three metre spire. it is famous for its clock one of the first ever created in the world it's still working. but. the. it. this is so you came to souls greta take a look at the clock then you know some on the cello know we plan to visit london adverse to have fun there will do it. it wasn't a business trip this time. and we planned to go to london and then to salisbury. but when we were almost there we thought the plane wouldn't land on the first drive that was there was a heavy snowstorm that's because of all the havoc they had with transport in the u.k. on march second and third because of heavy snowfall but nearly all the cities were

paralyzed because we were unable to go anywhere now so that's just a small exit this whole thing goes all of my groups are asking them some pretty basic questions but trying to get in there to get some info from them the main thing of course britain says alleges is that the. russian intelligence officers that was tackled two year those surprises they denied any links to the g.r.u. the russian military intelligence service they didn't reveal too much about their business their work they said they work in the sports industry in sports nutrition fitzsimmons protein amino acids. interview they said they decided to come to the media for protection they didn't know where to turn they were confused by the media attention the speculation saying their lives that effectively been turned upside down by all of us. what do you work for the g.r.u. and you me and you and i don't either but no one accuses me of working for the jerry but you are being accused of that your colleagues accuse us of that by your

colleagues you mean journalists you are being accused by you get for it it yes that's the scariest thing where do you work if you are adults you need to make a living if we tell you about our business people we work with will be affected tell me anything so that we believe you everyone has questions what do you do to cut a long story short we're in the fitness industry all right now they also want to say don't they that they're lies who badly for. by this they say they came to our team . margaret is a prominent broadcaster here and often online that they came to our team for some sort of safety although because we're journalists not lawyers what was that about yeah that's right and the but that's one of the quotes that moderators job was to get some answers to some questions not to defend them or protect them to get those answers and for the viewer to decide whether they believe this version or not they say they can't leave their house they can't go to the shop can't go to the petrol station they fear for their families being somehow involved implicated in all of this and that's why they chose to come forward voluntarily and answer some of these

questions although there may be more questions than answers of course after all of this let's take a listen. to me why did you decide to go to the media your photos were published some time ago together with your names but you kept silent then today you called me because you want to speak to the media what's changed on this issue to ask for protection is to them or the way you say we kept silent after our lives turned into a nightmare we didn't know what to do where to go when the police the investigative committee the u.k. embassy you know sort of you couldn't than you or the f.s.b. we don't know why would you go to the u.k. embassy. we really didn't know what to do where to go hello. you know when your life is turned upside down you don't really understand what to do and where to go and many say why don't they go to the u.k. embassy and explain everything you think a lot of us who are going to see this interview will have quite mixed feelings the

men are clearly slightly uncomfortable some will have more questions to ask some will view this as another piece of the jigsaw puzzle that is the case of course that has been a bit of a game of chess really between the u.k. and russia. the men refused to show their passports that a doctor identity documents on camera they said that what journalist to carry on digging into their past the lives their families they did show them to. she confirmed that they do match with her identity and she made a few comments after the interview just giving some of her own prussians about their interaction i knew they were nervous and sweating a lot i had to turn up the air conditioning a lot higher than usual and still they were sweating and wiping their foreheads which obviously happens when people are nervous there could be a lot of reasons for it i understand this was the first interview in their lives but they could have been nervous for other reasons as well that's also possible they refused to show their i.d.'s on camera because they didn't want to be pursued

and identified further but they showed them to me i did not run a polygraph on them as a journalist i believe what they see i saw those were the people i saw their i.d.'s and that they feed the photos and video what was going through their minds and whether they were speaking the truth it's hard to say it's up to those who watched the interview to decide really this has been a chance for those two suspects to give some sort of have some sort of right of reply here to give their version of events their story and explain their presence in the u.k. account for their actions during those days and i mean really give their version of events here whether the public will believe that as margarita said she didn't want to give her impression her job was to ask those questions. of course remains to be seen and we're waiting now for responses from. officials see where this goes next. you know as you might expect our tease exclusive interview with the two suspects has generated why do reaction from officials both in russia and the u.k.

breaking that down for us here is polly boyko in london. where you saw margarita simonyan saying that it's up to the viewer to decide what to make of this interview and it's fair to say that the british government has given it a massive thousands down to resume a spokesperson has rubbish the accounts provided by alexander patrol from a share of and they've used pretty strong language to do it take a listen to the lies and blatant for cations in this interview given to a russian state sponsored t.v. station are an insult to the public's intelligence well that same government statement goes on to say that an illegal chemical weapon was used on the streets of the country and that four people seriously ill in hospital and an innocent woman died and russia has responded with contempt now this is the second official statement that we've had from the government from downing street earlier on immediately after the interview with first ad there was

a statement from the government and it was similarly scathing take a listen the government is clear these men are officers of the russian military intelligence service the g.r.u. who use the devastatingly toxic illegal chemical weapon on the streets of our country we have repeatedly asked russia to account for what happened in so was three in march today just as we have seen throughout they have responded with all of this case and lies. so i think to say that the british authorities are buying it is to say nothing at all really no one's going to be lining up to give them any acting accolades certainly not here in the u.k. all the politicians have been rather skeptical to the member of parliament for soulsby john glenn he's tweeted saying that he's delighted that alexander picture often respond to share of enjoyed the world class attractions that sells really has to offer but it's very strange to come all this way for just two days while

carrying novacek in their luggage he also said that soulsby welcomes terrorists from around the world and it is very much open for business but the patrols the sheriff statements according to john glenn are not credible and don't match the widely accepted intelligence that the u.k. has on these individuals so you can see that this is a spat that is getting worse and we've got to the next stage of it now because we've had a response from the russian foreign ministry spokesperson that's maria's the horror of us so she's responded to the u.k.'s response to the interview and she has some questions for the british authorities issued this issue and then you've got i believe it's absolutely unacceptable to accuse people of telling lies forty minutes after they have spoken so i repeat my question directly to the british side what is the legal basis and framework for accused russian citizens of telling lies forty minutes after an interview what was the reason for that what was so specifically

note tabulation in the united states election foreign powers have historically sought to exploit america's free and open political system. didn't sign an executive order he created a magic bullet for himself marketed to the public as something that will protect them and which allows the white house to target who it wants. off there are well legal and media analysts lionel believes the executive order is vague in contrast to previous documents off its kind. but a couple of things i want to bring up using the canons of of american law away which i know a little bit about and whenever we look at any statute any statute law or regulation executive order p.t.d. you name it anything that is written one of the tenets that we always look to is

are the behaviors are the prohibited actions are those intended. activities spelled out accurately enough and with specificity enough so that you were able to read that particular executive order read the statute and comport accordingly meaning may i read this and say oh i know what to do now the next thing is sometimes we have terms void for vagueness vagueness ambiguity what is enter ferentz and i don't want to do this the air quotes but imagine i'm doing it what is interference what is propaganda what is one team to if fact have a good effect and i can come up with a lot of terms interpretations new ones if i tweak and leave the veritie veracity what does this mean i don't even understand how you would even apply this because normally when you look at the statute says interference shall mean this

it means it does not mean this the dissemination of an idea discussion debate what is that what when any country has any discussion i think there is an effect so it's very concerning it concerns me for vagueness in ambiguity what it is is the u.s. presidency responding to the domestic media and any doubts that people might hear of foreign interference in the election. the substance of it really is not material because. there are not going to be any measure of all indications of foreign interference in the election certainly not with vote rigging or vote tampering in any event so basically this is a public relations exercise from the white house. turning attention to the mideast where the russian military has claimed that extremist in syria is it glib province

have staged unfilmed a chemical attack which they intend to blame on president assad's forces moscow says' the fighters will send some of the footage to the united nations and circulate the rest online. following the filming on the evening of the same day at a joint meeting between representatives of the white helmet and terrorists. out of the nine videos from the two were proved to be sent to the us and the o.p.c. w. the rest of the material was suggested for social media because of low quality well according to the russian reconciliation center the preparations were made near the syrian town of khun where an alleged chemical attack took place in april last year it's claimed that filming took place in a nearby village where there is also a chemical stockpile washington has ignored warnings from russia about the self-styled syrian rescue group the white helmets are directly involved in staging the attack saying there is no evidence to support the claim. the battle for it

deliberate. the u.s. is pouring troops into syria saying that if there is a chemical attack there will be a much stronger response than before. looks into how washington's approach in syria has evolved over recent years the deeper the u.s. gets sucked into the syrian conflict the more the continuity of time seems to change when it comes to decision making and washington back in two thousand and thirteen when allegations of chemical attacks arose barack obama was still in the hot seat and time still seemed linear. we intend to investigate thoroughly exactly what happened. obviously in syria right now you've got a war zone we have to make sure that we know exactly what happened what was the nature of the incident what can we document what can we prove our commonsense review the evidence and attack if justified later the idea that investigations

require time those were the good old days but two thousand and seventeen came and times changed syrian dictator bashar. launched a horrible chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians less than seventy two hours later the u.s. fired fifty nine cruise missiles at the airbase they suspected chemical weapons were launched from before any investigation took place. only months later did a un report come out placing the blame at the feet of the syrian government something they still do not i thought when the controversial white how much group released a video claiming to be proof of a chemical attack in april this year trope was able to pinpoint the culprit in hours many dead including women and children in mindless chemical attack in syria area of atrocities in lockdown and encircled by syrian army making it completely

inaccessible to outside world president putin russia and iran are responsible for backing animal assad big price. so the area's inaccessible and yet those responsible have been found out already no ifs ands or buts how does the guy do it the u.k. and france also joined the ranks of the striking government sites in syria after an investigation you ask well three months later the o.p.c. w did put out a report saying chlorine may have been found but on nerve agents and the case is still open so all proof of the last attack hasn't been found the us is again using its crystal ball to determine what no one else can and is ready to act at least according to wall street journal sources brazil and bush are on the son of syria has approved the use of chlorine gas in an offensive against the country's last major rebel stronghold u.s. officials said so if and when a chemical attack takes place during ellipse liberation the guilty party is already

known if there are chemical weapons that are used we know exactly who's going to use them that russia's warning of stage attacks is irrelevant that it would lead to exactly what the terrorists want also irrelevant but why look at every scenario when you have everyone else and time on your side where we discuss the situation in syria with former u.s. congressman ron paul he told us washington is willing to use terror groups in syria as long as the tactic is beneficial. the evidence is out there that we are playing too many games with they are they because we've used al qaeda as the excuse for being there and yet i don't believe that is the case i think we were there for other reasons and. it is it's a haven there and we're on their side. the pragmatic reason for this is that. we think al qaeda will help our position the united states position to get rid of

assad and this is a bipartisan republican and democratic position and it's only individuals like ourselves in the institute for peace and prosperity that are arguing this is totally unnecessary it's not the right position it isn't what united states should be doing it's not part of our constitution and yet it drives us to align ourselves with a all kind of this isn't the first time that the evidence is very clear that we have aligned ourselves with al qaeda when we think it's temporarily a benefit to our foreign policy. russia's vote still twenty eight thousand military exercises are well underway in the countries far east they are the largest drills in decades with hundreds of thousands of troops on combat vehicles being put through rigorous testing but the maneuvers are also proving to be rather irritating for the west and with the pentagon saying it's watching very closely vladimir putin met with address trips out the drills are earlier on thursday he also watched

a joint russian chinese parade of army hardware and. their forests in russia's far east rough guess. one of the most anticipated exercises of the boats talks two thousand. russian paratroopers as well as their chinese counterparts a soul to god. and the me position through being wounded in an illegal to spare dropping in a now being supported by artillery as well as air strikes and helicopters doing the rounds to. come. up with formations during the battle with he called

the support. to preserve speed pushkin the battle. what's remarkable here at least the level of coordination required to keep everything running smoothly with so many military branches and he called his jets as well as troops from multiple countries china from russia and in such a confined and small area of course the exercise is simulated but the difficulties faced deal will translate it's a real combat experience. well this is an improved thing if dramatic sight thousands of tags personnel carriers helicopters and aircraft a raid on

a vast field chinese and russian joint military parades to end the day's exercises. many are questioning today whether the united nations as it stands is fit for purpose and then ever evolving world next on worlds apart the president of the u.n. general assembly tackles out on a whole lot more to. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars and. more than ten white collar crimes happen each day. eighty five percent of global wealth you longs to be rich eight point six

percent of the market saw a thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred trees per second per second and this morning rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars a all you industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need remember of one one distance shows you can afford to miss the one and only boom by. god.

hello and welcome to worlds apart when the united nations was founded it was meant to serve as a forum for conversation and conciliation gets you into a meeting of the security council and what you'll often see is not the robots well mannered debate but rather accusations and allegations of diplomats just postering for the cameras or is discourse at the un really as dysfunctional as it appears while to discuss that i'm now joined by medicine the president of the united nations general assembly they seventy second session mr president it's so good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you for having me on. good morning from new york now your term is about to end within the next couple of days and about a year ago when you just assume that your duties you said in an interview that one of your ambitions for the stanier is going to be overcoming narrow national interest do you think you have succeeded in that. i feel very strongly about united

nations and about the general assembly being the most representative platform and the fact is that we have one hundred ninety three member states they all come here we do their interests with the red lines but at the same time it's important to understand that. we.